Myanmar's Bleak Future: Civil War and Ethnic Strife || Peter Zeihan

[@vimokkha]

Good for you, Peter, to cover Myanmar. So often things happen here that go unnoticed in the Western media.

[@rutvikrs]

You can always ask the state department where they decided to muck up.

[@jonathandewberry289]

Whatever you think 'the western media' is - there is a lot going on in the world. Burma is one of many places news has to report on.

[@jonathandewberry289]

​@@rutvikrsThe Myanmar State Department

[@rutvikrs]

@@jonathandewberry289 US. Even defence has caught onto them now.

[@jonathandewberry289]

@@rutvikrs oh, another CIA worshiper. To you they are gods

[@michaelrichie5]

As a expat living in Thailand, thank you for reporting on Burma. I employ many Burmese refugees and fear for their very lives.

[@よしみ-x5j]

Good luck

[@salamandiusbraveheart4183]

Then you know they are directly supporting the Junta

[@RichardForsyth-et2qb]

Have you heard anything about the Thai government's disposition towards Myanmar's instability? Is there a significant military presence at the border? Are the people of Myanmar pretty restricted from coming over the border? Is there any talk of the violence spilling over to neighboring countries?

[@campfireeverything]

@@RichardForsyth-et2qb People from Myanmar, Cambodia or Laos fleeing to Thailand are given a "no citizen" status. Wherever they live, they have to stay in the general region and if they need to go out of that region, they have to seek permission. If they want to leave the country they have to do it from their country of origin, not Thailand. The men are able to work but only some women. The children get education in Thai schools. Generally, Europe needs to look at a system like this in extreme cases, it works well. I'd say there's no danger of the violence spilling into Thailand. Thailand is basically run by the military but it's much more harmonious and productive, and they also seem to take advice from the monks. They're quite onto it. They know their neighbours.

[@RichardForsyth-et2qb]

@@campfireeverything What an excellent response. Thank you!

[@aarondemiri486]

I studied Southeast Asia in university and always enjoyed it when this country was in the readings or the lectures. Sending my best wishes to the people of Myanmar.

[@mikehansen233]

You may know it as Myanmar, but it'll always be Burma to me.

[@ironwoodworkman4917]

Sending my best to the Christion's of Myanmar. After all this is who is under genocide by the government. Note. The World is finding out that Christion's will fight when they are backed into a corner. The Left is doing the same thing in all Western nations. Remember they started it and will never stop until it is ended for good.

[@steener76]

@@mikehansen233 "Elaine I hope you're watching the clothes because I can't take my eyes off the passion!"

[@bryanutility9609]

Reminds me of that song “Holiday in Cambodia” by Dead Kennedys

[@borisnegrarosa9113]

@@mikehansen233 Burma is the colonial term. Unless you sympathize with British colonialism.

[@zstrizzel]

For a country of such low GDP per capita, I find the people of Myanmar are really civil, intelligent, hardworking, pleasure to be around. The history is deep. The land is beautiful and rich with resources. This country just seems so ready for rapid development, if it was not for the government issues!

[@salamandiusbraveheart4183]

And they speak much better English than the rest of the clowntries of SE Asia

[@bryanalexander2376]

It looks like that on paper, in reality it's not going to see a meteoric rise like say Vietnam. The culture of decision making is 100% top down with no delegation and making no decision is far superior to making an incorrect decision. Even before the coup, this was the case and the government was generally incapable of implementing many meaningful changes.

[@P_equals_Plenty]

@@zstrizzel One of my favorite people I ever worked with was from Burma. He spoke very little English but was funny, skilled, and always had a positive attitude

[@625as-pj5mg]

But for the Chinese, Myanmar is very dangerous. Because a Chinese is worth $30,000.

[@ralfbaechle]

Good to see you cover Myanmar. I've traveled in Myanmar a few years ago. Not long before then the country had opened up after being very close to the outside. All in all things appeared to go well (footnotes apply ...) by that time.I found a country with big problems but also undergoing a rapid development and a population that seemed to understand things much better than one could expect in such a closed society.

[@jhanna1347]

Scariest place I've ever been, got our Thailand visa renewed and got the hell back over that border. The way we were looked at still haunts me like "help us/ run"...

[@jayshen84]

Thabk you for highlighting this forgetten crisis!

[@briano9397]

There's 3 things in the world you can count on in this life: The sun rising in the morning, the internet being toxic, and Peter mentioning the Rivers in whatever country he's talking about

[@djchristian82]

And mountainous cliffs and pine trees in the background and once in a blue moon a playful hummingbird in the background.

[@carlthor91]

Humans, if we can, prefer to settle along rivers. It makes life Sooooo much easier!

[@VoltageLP]

And ignoring Biden to Kamala switch

[@ricoinplano]

im stealing this....Peter probably has forgotten more about rivers than most people will ever know

[@WackadoodleMalarkey]

From the river to the sea, Zeihan loves his geography

[@patkelley4071]

The other element that Peter did not mention is religious conflict between Buddhists in the lowlands and Muslims in the mountainous areas. That is an almost impossible problem to solve, as both sides have drifted more extremist over time.

[@taysondynastyemperor5124]

Most of the mountain people are Christian, not Muslims.

[@bettyhermsmeyer796]

Truly a 'kingdom' - in the middle of a jungle - with a massive and historic river running through it. A land where the populace makes $3.60 a day. A land where the promise of a future (after 50 years of being shut out from the world) emerged - resulting in an excitement for the future across the land - only to be devastated by the military. Literally thousands of stunning ancient temples are spread across this land. I have been there twice . . . once right after the country opened - where people were hopeful across the land and just before the war broke out. The people were taking out loans for tuc-tucs (taxis) and starting little businesses and there was a flourish of excitement for the future. Families are serious about educating their children and providing resources for their families. Now . . . all gone.

[@WalterBlack-oz1ps]

Big fan from Burma, Peter. Keep it up your great work.🎉

[@JohnButlerKF5MDW]

I was in Yangon in January/February 2020, working mostly with people from Chin and Shan States. Part of the tensions, as they described it, go back to the push for independence from Britain -- the folks outside the core Irrawaddy areas wanted their own independence apart from the Burmese center; they were persuaded to join with the Burmese for the push for independence for all, with the understanding that once achieved, the out-lying states would then be able to go their own way. Except that when independence came about, they weren't allowed their own separate independence. Yes, your take on the Burmese attitude toward the non-Burmese is true.

[@erikswanson5753]

But don't you think Myanmar could work as loose federal system? Most of the ethnic groups are too small to be an viable independent state.

[@JohnButlerKF5MDW]

@@erikswanson5753 It could if every group would humbly submit to one another and play by the rules. There’s a ton of mistrust, though.

[@alexmintz7786]

And how is this push for independence from bad Brits working out for them all? Do they live much better now?

[@kv4648]

​@@alexmintz7786obviously not, the Brits left ethnic groups segregated across borders like they always do

[@guilhermecamera4138]

Hey Peter .. I' ve just read your 4 books .. In.A.Row ... 😅😅 Enjoyed a lot ... Tank you .. From Florianópolis (you would love It here) .. Brazil ... Cheers ...

[@worldview2888]

This is an individual that got everything wrong about China for the past 30 years and you actually read his book 4 times when he doesn't have notable proof of any credible work (pete-z).

[@jarrettbobbett5230]

Thanks Peter for the update on Myanmar.

[@P_equals_Plenty]

I've worked with probably 100 refugees of the Haka Chin ethnicity and all of them call it Burma

[@wishiwas-jd9cd]

The Bermans are the largest ethnic group and that’s why it is called Burma. The government tried to change it to Myanmar in 1989. The US and UK do not recognise this name change and still call it Burma, as far as I am aware.

[@vincentcleaver1925]

​@@wishiwas-jd9cd really? I'm surprised state department doesn't go along. Not surprised the Brits would object

[@bryanalexander2376]

The British called it Burma. It was always written as Myanmar in Burmese.

[@DogmaticAtheist]

I've never heard 'burmans' before. I thought it was Burmese

[@TomTomicMic]

​@@vincentcleaver1925 The UK officially recognises the Myanmar (We even classify the US as a separate country), it currently has financial sanctions against the ruling military due to the civil war crimes but it does support Myanmar's transition to a democracy for your information, obviously we wish it kept the name we gave it as it was shorter and represented the main part of the country and it was easier to say, but so be it, we don't hold a grudge we move on!?!

[@marc6344]

Thank you Peter, very important to talk about this conflict.

[@fouracrefamily9801]

I spent much of the 1990s working with ethnic Karen on the Thai-Burma border. They are some of the best people I've ever known despite the hell the Burmese military have put them through. As a young guy at the time I was privileged to meet Gen. Bo Mya and spent a lot of time hanging out in Mannerplaw and the numerous camps along the Moei. Great memories.

[@zinny999]

Well.. is strange that the hell Burmese have to get through never get mentioned.... More than 6k students were gunned down in 8 8 1988 And 40k illegally detained and some are still rotting away in the prison

[@chewdrag]

Not rebel groups . They are ethnic armies and Burmese resistance groups. They are trying to start a federal/independent state system instead of a centralized system.

[@khanfauji7]

I like that his videos don’t drag on for 20 minutes to make a point

[@kicokyaw1039]

OMG! I am from Myanmar/Burmese and would like to proudly call myself Peter Zeihans biggest fan from Myanmar. Love Peter work but it could use some clarification. He is kinda accurate about the geography and synopsis of the ethnic strife but the civil war and nature of the ethnic strife is very much different in important details. The majority ethnic group 'the Bamar' is in charge of the center, but the way he talks about the war and state/government is somewhat inaccurate. The current 'hot' civil war started because a military coup de tat in February 2021 that overthrew the democratically elected and popular government (under who the ethnic strife reduced significantly) and established a junta/dictatorship purely for their own benefit and desire. The Burmese military (the Tatmadaw) ARE PRICKS and perhaps one of the most plainly malevolent forces to exist and treat both the Burma and ethnic populations horribly. Due to that, the military is near universally despised by everyone in Myanmar and they are entirely no longer representative of the Bamar ethnic majority people who hate them with a passion, its more accurate to view it as a military occupation which rely solely on violence and force to maintain power rather than a government. The war is divided between minority ethnic armed groups and allied pro democracy Bamar rebels, but the civil war is turning into a revolution that is significantly fostering unity between the Bamar and minority groups. One of the ideals of the revolutions is to foster ethnic equality and a federal system of equal governance. Currently the war is in a strategic sense of stalemate but the military is quickly losing ground and can only hold onto the core regions and facing internal dissent. Still a long way to go and Myanmar is turning into a horrible place to live which is why I fled the country in 2021, so Peter is right that the country is only going to get worse until the war ends one way or another and there is no end in sight.

[@NGC1433]

Nobody cares. Sorry, not sorry. You left the place yourself, why would anyone half the globe away care?

[@lindawightman1007]

Ty

[@lindawightman1007]

@@NGC1433 I do.

[@unfamiliarenvironments]

@@NGC1433it’s amazing - loved my visit there. Companionate people unlike the typical negative netizen trying to make themselves feel better by trashing others

[@esol4044]

Hi there hope you are well. I am a westerner who has been loosely following the civil war. What do you make of the claim that there was a coup attempt against Min Aung Hlaing? Is it real? Is it having an impact? thank you. @kicokyaw1039

[@EdNashsMilitaryMatters]

"Kind of pricks" - A perfect description of the leaders that have cursed the country.

[@salamandiusbraveheart4183]

You could say that about most of the people and fake governments of the clowntries of SE Asia

[@public.public]

"kind of pricks" that's an understatement. When i visited it was then palpably a state of fear.

[@Libertaro-i2u]

A perfect description of pretty much ALL totalitarian rulers!

[@elektrotehnik94]

Ed Nash, one of the few great KZbinrs that report on Myanmar's civil war progress, in this comment thread? ❤ His channel is a great source of news regarding strategic-level updates on the progress of the outing of the military junta. 🏆❤ Do subscribe to him!

[@EdNashsMilitaryMatters]

@@elektrotehnik94 Thank you, very kind!! I'm working on a Myanmar video right now and I am going to quote Peter's assessment in it because it tickled me so much 😁

[@greendsnow]

God show mercy for the innocent and the needy please. We need you, hear us oh Lord.

[@ToddSauve]

I can assure you Peter that civil war has been going in Burma/Myanmar for well over a century and probably much longer. I only know this because my church has members there among the Karen people and they have been fighting the government in Myanmar since I became aware of them back in 1983. That was 41 years ago and the place was really rockin' back then. Just doing a tiny bit of research has revealed this civil war has been non stop to one degree or another for eons now. Thankfully my church brethren are not compelled to carry arms into combat but are allowed to work in the medical and supply network of the Karen people.

[@anotheryoutubechannel4809]

🙏

[@BM-zd3vs]

Missionaries disguised themselves and carrying out CRUSADE in Myanmar by giving millitary training long way before civil war had started. Western Christian missionaries brainwashed Myanmar people into Christianity to fight between each other.

[@morganmpb91]

Christian news has been bringing attention to this for quite a while. Good to see everyone else catching up.

[@VTh-f5x]

Americans will find it very difficult now because China and India are working together in this proxy war.

[@jerryrichardson2799]

Thanks Peter.

[@nathpongwisamol5653]

น้ำ เสียง.. น้ำ ใจ.. เสียง พูด... น้ำ ไหล ใจ คิด ... น้ำ ใจ น้ำ ตา... น้ำ เสียง น้ำ ตา... น้ำ ไหล

[@zapfanzapfan]

Top Gear was there, drove around and built a bridge when it looked brighter with peace talks, 10-15 years ago. Good episode!

[@IvorMektin1701]

The infamous "our bridge has a slope" episode

[@zapfanzapfan]

@@IvorMektin1701 Yepp, I had not heard that term before and only found out later when other media complained. Thanks media for teaching me new derogatory words. Seems a bit counter productive...

[@dansullivan6481]

What an amazing world we live in 🤗 I praying 🙏 for everyone may things go your way today 😘

[@chopsticksandtrains]

Glad I got to travel to Myanmar during peace time. It is an amazing and beautiful country. Currently in China and always follow your work, Peter. Thanks for the daily updates.

[@jaysdood]

Yeah, we were there end of 2008. Beautiful country, lovely people and beautiful women.

[@dcar6530]

and you can still watch youtube in China?

[@potatorekt7046]

@@dcar6530VPNs obviously, I am watching it from China as well.

[@625as-pj5mg]

You ask the Chinese people around you what they think about Burma. I believe most people's view of Burma is that Burma is dangerous

[@hyh-jw1tl]

​@@dcar6530为什么不可以😂

[@db1982Cro]

Peter we need your comments on the Ukrainian offensive Sir. Need someone knowledgable and unbiased to finaly say something about it.

[@TomTomicMic]

Anders Puck Nilsen? channel on KZbin tells you all you need to know about Ukraine from a strategic point of view, no doubt Peter will chip in his two penneth (Two cents) worth shortly (Not that it's any less informative but maybe a tad US centric)!?!

[@dennisclapp7527]

Thanks Peter

[@stephensipe5405]

WOW! This analysis of what has been and what is now is spot on. The analysis of the future is totally focused on making past experiences work. This is insane analysis. If any country needed a Federal solution, probably using a limited States Rights model with a Citizen Bill Of Rights like Australia, it is the area formerly known as Burma. Local people need linguistic and cultural protection from a Centralized Authoritarian Government of any kind. The Government needs to have a certain amount of local cooperation to build schools, hospitals, and roads. Everyone needs a secure “rice bowl”. Only Federalism with persons skilled in explaining Federalism in multiple local languages in a tone fitting their culture will work. The drug trade on Burma is like slavery in early America. It’s hard to financially end it and impossible to let a new Federalism be undermined by the drug trade. Maybe if the end buyer countries worked out a deal to offer equivalent price supports or export guarantees for substitute products, this might change the local culture. But many US States still have moonshiners even with a lower profit margin. Additionally, northern Thailand and Laos still have a similar drug production culture. Roads and schools might have a bigger impact of providing poor locals a pathway to urban jobs.

[@malbrownie]

We know about Myanmar in Australia and on a recent trip to Singapore, there were Myanmar girls catching up in a park on a Sunday. I feel for the population. So much of what is happening is very difficult for the people.

[@dk6024]

It's still called Burma by patriots and people my age.

[@sklantharregulus2100]

More on this please

[@plainjane-rb8ky]

I visited Burma a few years ago as a tourist. It's a beautiful country with wonderful, welcoming people. I'm sorry to hear what's going on in Myanmar. I wish they could have peace. ☮ ☮ ☮ ✌✌✌

[@truthhurts856]

War is not good for long suffering nations such as Myanmar.

[@hellyeah7403]

@@truthhurts856 I agree with you absolutely one hundred percent. War means more suffering and poverty.

[@EvelynHarper-xi8dt]

I'm sorry to hear what's going on in Myanmar ... I too hope Myanmar manages to sort things out. I also feel for the refugees and civilians caught up in the bloody civil war. In my humble opinion, refugees and displaced civilians fleeing or caught up in the civil war in Myanmar should be able to relocate and resettle over to the vast resourceful Australia & New Zealand in the Asia-Pacific region. In fact, around 90% of Australia/New Zealand are completely empty. Besides, the vast majority of the population in Australia/New Zealand, tens of millions of Europeans were from all over Europe brought in over to the Asia-Pacific region. Once again, I agree with the fact that displaced civilians fleeing/caught up in the civil war in Myanmar should be able to relocate and resettle over to the vast resourceful Australia & New Zealand in the Asia-Pacific region. True, around 90% of Australia/New Zealand are completely empty. True, the vast majority of the population in Australia/New Zealand, tens of millions of Europeans were from all over Europe brought in over to the Asia-Pacific region. [For honest truths, pls read the informative multi-page comments by 'Ms. Gregoria' at, "Myanmar remains in social and economic crisis since military seized power/BBC News" on KZbin ].. Colonialism and Colonization are evil things done by evildoers.. Here in Singapore, a tiny island with 6 million souls lives like sardines in a can, elsewhere in nearby vast bountiful Australia which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants. A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room?

[@EvelynHarper-xi8dt]

Like I said, refugees and displaced civilians fleeing or caught up in the civil war in Myanmar should be able to relocate and resettle over to the vast resourceful Australia & New Zealand in the Asia-Pacific region. In fact, around 90% of Australia/New Zealand are completely empty. Moreover, the vast majority of the population in Australia/New Zealand, tens of millions of Europeans were from all over Europe brought in over to the Asia-Pacific region. [For honest truths, pls read the informative multi-page comments by 'Ms. Gregoria' at, "Myanmar remains in social and economic crisis since military seized power/BBC News" on KZbin ].. Colonialism and Colonization are evil things done by evildoers. For instance, here in Singapore, a tiny island with 6 million souls lives like sardines in a can, elsewhere in nearby vast bountiful Australia which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants. A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room?

[@Anonymous-ld6gg]

@@EvelynHarper-xi8dt I agree with you the fact that displaced civilians fleeing or caught up in the civil war in Myanmar should be able to relocate and resettle over to the vast resourceful Australia & New Zealand in the Asia-Pacific region. True, around 90% of Australia/New Zealand are completely empty. True, the vast majority of the population in Australia/New Zealand, tens of millions of Europeans were from all over Europe brought in over to the Asia-Pacific region. By the way, just to let you know that I read the informative, insightful multi-pages comment by Ms. Gregoria at, "Myanmar remains in social and economic crisis since military seized power/BBC News", on KZbin and learnt a whole lot of plain truth facts about Myanmar & beyond than I've ever known. Highly appreciated.

[@anthonylangzettel4936]

Where does this guy find the time to read about this stuff? Regardless, I'm thankful to give this a listen than those news channels.

[@himanshusingh5214]

A navigable river is simply a river whose flow doesn't change much throughout the year and whose elevation doesn't change much.

[@PCMenten]

China’s interests would seem to favor a weak Myanmar government; one less border to patrol if that country is in chaos. Their policies might help foster instability through passivity and lack of support. The Chinese do not want a pro-western democracy in Myanmar.

[@TomTomicMic]

China does not want a pro western democracy anywhere near its borders, hence North Korea and all the failed states bordering China, it does actively patrol the Indian border though who is more resistant to China but not really aligned with the West!?!

[@tiagogomes3807]

Myanmar is China's shortest way to the Indian Ocean. Problem is, they have no One to work with creating such route.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@PCMenten List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@tiagogomes3807 awww really List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@PCMenten what's pro western ? Does usa allow pro chinese democracy in West ? Does Europe tolerate pro china pro Asia govts ?

[@VeteranExpat]

As am American veteran who lives in Myanmar and has Myanmar family....... good job overall. You cut out most of the disinformation. Still far off though. There are robust politics at play however factionalization is not only ethnic. In my opinion the situation is not as bad as you make it sound.

[@jasonsmith530]

Let this be a lesson to crap talking Americans Civil wars are a nightmare

[@lo1lawl]

Huh

[@airtoadrhubarbpie4012]

Thanks. Fascinating place. Been reading Erin Murphy’s, “Burmese Haze: US Policy and Myanmar’s Opening-and Closing.” A tragic mess and variation on the “Curse of Oil” theme but with jade and gemstones.

[@BM-zd3vs]

USA wants to block China's trade route exit to Indian Ocean. USA has been funding its proxies just so it Myanmar can be balkanized and USA proxies can be created between China and India to contain both countries. USA just removed Bangladesh PM, because she didn't allow USA to build a military base on St.Martin Island.

[@VoltageLP]

Myanmar sounds fun, I'm thinking about moving there

[@garyspence2128]

Not right now...does not sound prudent, bro...

[@marcopolo8468]

Regime change in Bangladesh and civil war in Mynammar seems to be connected.

[@daicekube]

There is one more "people" or "society" in Myanmar as far as I understand and that is Tatmadaw or the military in Myanmar. They usually live totally separated from the rest of the population. They have all they need inside their compounds. Hospitals, school, stores... Also, the Tatmadaw own and controls industries like in Egypt. Because of this separation between the military and general population, the power exerted and the violence used becomes natural. The people outside the compound fences aren't... the same as on the inside. This may be one reason to why the military has never really given up control of the country, even under Aung San Suu Kyi initial position in power. Myanmar also has some Muslims pushed in by the Brits back inte the day when the UK owned Burma (the old name). Many of these, the Rohingya, used to live mainly in Rakhine region but were pushed out after years of escalating violence with the Buddhist population into Bangladesh where they now sit on a sort of island in a delta. Some think Buddhists are peaceful! Hah! They're wrong! Some of the worst Muslim-haters are Buddhist monks.

[@drg598]

Buddhists vs muslims in srilanka and Myanmar Jews vs muslims in isreal Christains vs muslims in Europe middle east and Africa,Hindus vs muslims in India,Yajidis vs muslims in Iraq.......!!!!!!!

[@billwrinkle9662]

Just a bit of local knowledge: "Myanmar" and "Burma" are actually the same word... just that the new spelling is much closer to the local pronunciation than the original anglicized version. Understand that, in Burmese, "bya" and "mya" are very close. So "Bya(n)ma(r)" versus "Mya(n)ma(r)".

[@mcconlogue1898]

You didn’t talk about the historical religious culture which is a huge part of the strife.

[@spencerme3486]

I’m in Burma, Elaine. Sure, you may know it as Myanmar but it will always be Burma to me

[@ecthelion83]

It should be noted that due to the excesses and egregious violations of the central Burmese government, even substantial fractions of the Bama (Burman/Burmese) majority are dissatisfied (to put it nicely) with the government and some have even thrown in with the ethnic rebel/separatist groups.

[@jlyout]

It will always be Burma to J. Petermann!

[@dankoepp68]

Bangladesh, recently covered by PZ, now Burma… Yesterdays government decision in Thailand, pops up in my (in country in the region for decades) attention. Laos has economic issues, too, no? Cambodia is pretty much taken over by the sons of the yellow emperor - so it seems? Things that make you go „hmmm“?

[@jamesmordovancey517]

Visited there for one month in 2015. Been to fifteen countries in that part of the world and that was my favorite travel experience. Left the day before the election, the first in fifty years or so, and thought that the place was on its way. But evidently not.

[@Bayard1503]

Even in times of peace the army got 35% of the budget.

[@99honker]

Why no mention of the famous Aung San Suu Kyi?

[@diegocorrea9747]

Peter ziehan is the alarm clock

[@zinny999]

Is not that the Burmans have lost the relationship with the ethnics. Is the Military Junta that have lost that relationship. However I certainly don't see the future being a same Union Burma.. Maybe a federalism government and central in Yangon and 6 or 7 different States to govern. However I do see some ethnics will keep hold of tbeir military power in case another turmoil embroiled in the future

[@cvzphotography]

Such a beautiful country. Sad to see this conflict.

[@Waverlyduli]

Very sad about Burma/Myanmar. Beautiful country. Nice people. Lot's of potential.

[@Vlaid65]

An apt quote of Yeats.

[@CautionCU]

Far from an expert of Myanmar. My understanding is that China promoted the military to coup after the democratic branch pushed too close to the West. They feared this because Myanmar is one of their BRI investments to go around Malaka. After this, the rebel groups started kidnapping people along the border and the Chinese almost immediately regretted their political intervention. So ya it's not a great situation and hope that they have peace soon.

[@TheWizardWhiteHawk]

I guess I'm old, not into sports... but generally at least in what feed i get . Right or wrong ? I enjoy 20 most 15 minute clips hanging out with what you felt worthy to do a month or so ago :-)

[@electricmiragemedia]

Great to hear that the boys in Myanmar have been making gains from the China-backed Junta. Though it is concerning that they have backed Hamas.

[@paulstravellife9555]

can you do an update video on Venezuela? a lot has happened since your last video on this topic.

[@clarencebennett3624]

How do you come across this information that is so interesting

[@irishrover4658]

I was in Chiang Mai for three years in the 80s. It was hard to remember the names of all the ethnic based rebel groups. It was the same as now.

[@natewesley8507]

Alright damn it Peter I’m getting out of Thornton this weekend and going to either garden of the gods or pikes peak one or the other

[@777jones]

I met a guy who was an ex-slave from Burma. He loves the USA and his freedoms here. Myanmar also has beautiful women 🔥

[@MBBurchette]

Diversity is a strength though.

[@askfaisalmuslim]

"What is a Myanmar", this is the question Zeihan asked 3 hours before uploading this video.

[@BrianSmith-ug2bu]

You never ask for anything, just give your news/opinion and see ya later, love it...

[@andybud1983]

After visiting there 8 years ago, I can confirm many locals still call it Burma.

[@maryanncrody4867]

i seem to remember difficulties in berma when i was a child and i am 70 now. maybe this is something that cant be fixed

[@erikswanson5753]

From what I understand right now the military is very much on the back foot, and a number of difference ethnic groups and their "armies" have come together, with the mostly Burmese democratic forces, to overthrow the odious military regime, which came to power in 2021 putting an end to a four year democratic experiment under Ang San Su Kyi (pronounced "Chee") the former Nobel Peace Prize winner and daughter of Myanmar's last democratic ruler. She is now under house arrest. Myanmar got off to a shakey start right from it's founding in 1948. The entire cabinet was gunned down during a cabinet meeting by unknown assailants. They had a number of shakey civilian governments until 1963 when the military under Ne Win overthrew the government. It's been under military rule for all but four years ever since, and its' military is particularly brutal and corrupt. A sad story for a country that, as Peter mentioned, could have been an Asian Tiger.

[@montrak4208]

Sadly, the Nobel Laureate is in Nay Pyi Taw prison.

[@Kevface]

It's the results to be expected from an Ethnically diverse country......

[@briancuprisin4571]

"Burma!" "Why did you say Burma?" "I panicked."

[@superturkle]

im curious, what about the buddhist revolt from about 10 years ago? the one where bodies of monks were recorded floating down the river? was the country any different then than from now?

[@merlingeikie]

If Burma had retained British colonial customs, they would be enormously wealthy.

[@Brohymn80]

Reminds me of that scene in George C Scott's 'Patton' where his Patton character is arguing with Karl Malden's General Bradley character about Patton's sneaky strategy with Bradly sharply responding, 'I know how to read a map, George!' I s'pose if China's gonna lose access to the Indian Ocean by sea, why not get access via land? Nearly 20 years overdue. The country's been in a civil war for so long at this point half its population doesn't even remember why and the other half doesn't care.. they just follow orders or/and die. Should be infrastructurally nice once it's finished though?? Bangladesh 🇧🇩 last month, Myanmar 🇲🇲.. does Bhutan 🇧🇹 even stand a chance?? Even if China lost half its population, it'd still be nearly over double that of the United States. How long does it really take to pump up their hormones & gene selection machines and funky town out a few hundred million? 20? 30 years? All the faster if they follow Putin's course of action ..or even their own ala Uyghurs.. and just start kidnapping from their neighbors.. or/and stirring up dangers & collapses in their native countries' and drive them into open arms. Reminds me of that Patsy Cline song, 'Back in Baby's Arms' .. NBK sdtk-style.

[@debasischoudhuri9696]

There are no such kind of news in any media , why ?

[@garygaray7774]

It will always be Burma to me....

[@visions.of.excess]

"Kind of pricks" is an understatement. I remember the news when the military took over, killing indiscriminately and leaving bodies on display to intimidate and terrorise their subjects. I was so glad to hear about the amazing resistance movement and the way they have been able to coordinate. However I am surprised that everything I read from the western establishment seems to side more with the military tyrants. Better for business I suppose.

[@BrianTHOMAS-ei8fu]

Seems like every faction will pursue it's short-term interested as long as it can i.e. no long term strategy 😢

[@garykinard7553]

I lived on the Thai, Burma border for years. It has always been a shit show.

[@gilcohen1163]

Every time I hear you say Colorado my brain goes "I'm a giraffe!!"

[@TomTomicMic]

You've got some neck to voice that here!?!

[@ElizabethPearceCFA]

Are there common themes with the civil unrest in Miramar, Pakistan, Bangladesh?

[@drg598]

USA

[@morlden]

Is Peter a fan of Yeats? "Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;"

[@persistentwind]

Like bong bong said. There are nations who want to be superpowers but refuse to act like a superpower.

[@edpicard1756]

I saw a program on TV a couple of years ago where some guy had to pawn his cooking pot to get money to ride the bus to work and then redeem the pot when he got home so he could cook dinner!

[@ltw6888]

Is the past tense agrew?

[@billyhighfill]

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[@Digmen1]

I knew about the problems in Burma, But I did not know what Peter has shown that is behind it. With all these manufactured countries, is there ever an answer to tribalism?

[@moritamikamikara3879]

This isn't tribalism, these are literally different nations that have been smushed together. Somalia, that's tribalism. They are the same country but different groups fighting for influence. The Bamar, Chin, Ka'ren and others are not the same country.

[@Digmen1]

@@moritamikamikara3879 What is the basis for your claim? I'll look at my historical atlases and see if I can find such countries - ever

[@gregparrott]

I am surprised Peter did not mention Burma's prior leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner - Aung_San_Suu_Kyi, and that a military coup placed her under house arrest in 2021. While there were complaints about her, it sounded like she tried to instill democracy and was VERY popular. As best I understand it, the uptick in violence towards the military is in large part a response to their coup.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

[@klaasvakie]

Obammy puppet!

[@bobbrown8661]

Will there be another fitness video? 😜

[@bb-ni5ov]

Hi Peter, love your work, what is going on in Bangladesh?

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Since they posted about it 2 days ago?

[@posterestantejames]

You forgot to mention which ethnic groups are throwing down! Is it up in Shan State? Is it up the Kachin? Arakan? Are things suddenly blowing up in Sittwe?

[@jeffee1933]

So close to Bangladesh having the same problems

[@familyguygaming_]

“Civil War Breaks Out” Idk about that title considering it isn’t 2021

[@morojkiller5418]

Dang. Myanmar won't become the next global superpower. I guess veiny navigable rivers and girthy demographics aren't enough to be a rising star. But for real. I hope they are able to resolve this. They have great potential in the coming China vacuum.

[@gagamba9198]

Someone forgot to tell them about the strength. Keeping chanting it until enough people pretend to believe it.

[@WalfinchHanpsteadandCamden]

I really thought the issues in Myanmar would have sorted out after Rambo 4!