RGB306 :: The NES Classic Edition VS. Original Hardware, Virtual Console & More / MY LIFE IN GAMING

Curious about the NES Classic Edition from Nintendo? How does this plug 'n play's emulation stand up against other, more expensive options for playing NES on an HDTV? Or what about Nintendo's own Virtual Console service?
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[@LGR]

This was fantastically useful. I've watched quite a few reviews of this system, but they only touched on maybe half of what you guys did. Thanks a bunch for the info!

[@northwindkey]

So how's that AT power supply going?

[@camcosby3480]

Lazy Game Reviews LGR Good to see you here I'm a subscriber I love your channel

[@milesgreb3537]

This is the only review of it that matters. No one breaks down stuff as well as you guys.

[@ErbilT]

In regards to the reduction of flashing images, they were likely removed to pass Nintendo's lot check guidelines. When I was QA over at Sega, several VC games and some Wii titles were flagged for flashing images due to seizure concerns. I noticed that the sword strike during the Ninja Gaiden attract mode was removed and I can say with 99% certainty that it was due to the games failing lot check.

[@MelodyMix]

This is pretty much the best review for the NES classic!! Seriously, I *love* the little details you guys put into your videos :)

[@mjc0961]

Something as simple as the Mega Man jumping sound effect when they set down the NES Classic on an NES cartridge for size comparison brought a big dopey grin to my face.

[@Warrax22]

Wow the sound delay, it's very noticeable. No you are not crazy!

[@Kentama]

I noticed it too. Stuff like that drives me up the wall. It's good to know ahead of time at least.

[@user-vu8fm5vb4n]

1~2 sec sound delay are hard to notice... right?

[@Ultronator]

I'm assuming there's no sound delay on Wii U VC? But I haven't checked in a while

[@Blue-cf8ho]

I noticed too. It would be very irritating for me.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

I can't notice it very much...

[@gamezguy71]

You guys are simply amazing. I hardly want to watch any other KZbin channels now due to how professional you guys are. Now all I want is more of this RGB Master Class series for like, every console ever. Since I've gotten a Framemeister, you guys have helped me a lot in getting the best picture out of my retro games. Keep up the amazing work.

[@NinjaxShadowXx]

Was waiting for this episode ever since the NES Mini was announced. You guys rock!

[@merlingt1]

I can always count on MLG to deliver the best assessment and reviews. Thanks for all the great videos.

[@themblan]

This video doused my desire for this evasive unicorn. Thank you.

[@ZetZatar]

Everything was "ok" up until the sound delay. Yikes! @_@'

[@bubbaritz83]

Great Ep. on this NES Classic. One of the best deconstructions of this unit I've seen. A+ work!

[@LavenderAudio]

The sound lag is actually a bit of a deal breaker for me.

[@SageOwl]

The perils of emulation.

[@domdon950]

Lavender Harmony it's not the worst thing in the world...

[@ryrin6091]

Getting mugged isn't the worst thing in the world either. Still crappy though.

[@Lalo-dh8xq]

More like "the imput lag"

[@DeathToTheDictators]

Hmm let's see, I could spend $60 and get 30 mostly excellent games (though slightly inaccurately emulated) in one fell swoop...or spend $250 just to get a modern NES clone that'll run on my only HD TV (who the F has a CRT nowadays?), then spend anywhere from $5-150 each for all these same carts i'll have to store and maintain. Speaking of deal breakers.

[@TaintedReality]

Always love seeing these educational videos from you guys! Keep up the excellent work!

[@GameplayandTalk]

Great video as always. I'm glad to see you guys were able to get your hands on one of these.

[@PSYK0MANT1S]

The production values, and engineering talk on all your videos is stellar. Consider me a subscriber, and a watcher for as long as you keep uploading! Great work!

[@onesixr]

I was waiting for patiently for this video. Thank you

[@ALONEAGAIN82]

I love your theme song, there is something very nostalgic/ sad about it. Absolutely amazing. And your videos are awesome too.

[@Sparkykelly1]

Great video guys. I love everything about your channel, right down to that intro song. My only gripe is the 2 weeks between videos, the waiting kills me 😂

[@ZiKoN22]

This shows theme always lifts my spirits :) Great review guys!!!

[@vhsdinosaurgo]

This is the best breakdown of the NES Classic I have seen so far! Great job, guys. I'm definitely going to subscribe

[@realevostevo]

Answered my questions. Awesome video guys!

[@GamerGoingGrey]

This was the review I was waiting for. Good to know what to expect when I finally track one down.

[@juanviera3609]

So awaited review... yeah! finally you did it guys!

[@MidnightGrind]

AWESOME! This should be required watching for anyone pissed they missed grabbing one of these.

[@johndee759]

Thank so much for this review. I like that you went into the technical details of the nes Classic and compared them to the original and fpga consoles.

[@avifb]

I was looking forward to this video. Thank you!

[@dcashley303]

Been waiting for this, one of the only videos on NES Mini worth a watch!

[@81casperflip]

Awesome videos as always. Can't believe you guys don't have 500k subscribers

[@xWindreaderx]

Finally video from you guys! :D

[@ikto123]

Fantastic video, as always. Keep up the great work!

[@muckypup-riot]

Thanks for another great video guys!

[@ehyouman]

Great video was looking forward to this one, worth the wait! and yes we can hear it..... wow

[@trexslapfight]

Always love your videos guys. Awesome job.

[@AllieRX]

Phenomenal job as always!

[@slot9]

Nice work guys! Thanks Wes for letting them use your system!

[@JMLRetroRoom]

Great video. Been waiting for it since the release of the mini.

[@colefreddy1]

The NES Classic Edition is hacked, you can add the whole NES library Also the epilepsy filter can be switched off, so there wil be no blurring when you see a in game flicker. There is also an option to use a button combination (down + select) to go back to the main menu

[@TenchiJeff]

Thank you, this is what I have been looking for.

[@googleboughtmee]

Finally a good video on this system! Love you guys.

[@stephaneedwardson1370]

Very good analysis. Great work!

[@TheSwartz]

Thanks for addressing the sound differences. These videos focus so much on visuals (which is good) but one feedback would be to address audio in more depth as well :) Thanks!

[@slowcar68]

Well done, thanks guys!

[@pimpedoutstereos9747]

Great video guys. Keep up the good work

[@Jelster64]

Amazing video like always :D

[@chesleycalloway]

Great job guys!

[@WhiffleBoy255]

Always good stuff!

[@UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ]

This intro is so epic !

[@R4SK0_001]

Nice video! I thought it was cool how you put up the sharpening filter to reveal how much noise there was.

[@nomisastro2000]

Great work guys. Top class production and very in depth. Always look forward to your content.

[@pepsihabbit]

Great review!

[@SoloWing88]

always interesting to see the options for games.

[@void_visuals_]

I am quite surprised about how this channel does not have a lot more subscribers

[@madfinntech]

Best review of NES Classic around, by far.

[@jonathan2950]

Really interesting video. I've been playing mine since release and thought all the games looked great and played great, so I was genuinely expecting nothing but praise. How wrong I was! Really enjoyed seeing your comparisons to original hardware and other emulation methods, as it's not something I can do myself, except for Wii U VC which I thought was fine until I got this! I'll have to give it a few days before going back to playing on it, so hopefully I don't notice all the things you have pointed out 😀

[@Breakbeats92.5]

Most underrated retro themed channel on YT.

[@justinmerpaw]

great videos guys !

[@bsolmaz13]

Something is severely off with the noise channel on the NES Classic. No reviewer until now pointed this out which drove me mad. Thanks for the thorough analysis guys!

[@rj5485]

nice!!! keep up the good work!

[@luisribeiro7435]

First of all! Congrats. I bow to your videos and RGB series! Would be great to see one about the SNES Classic and the Mega Drive Classic (apparently there seem to exist several editions ! Which one the best!

[@104d_3rr0r_vince]

This is the best review of this system so far.

[@SuperLuigiSixty4]

Great review, guys! As usual. Very even handed. I can understand why some people with expansive collections and various HD setups (RGB, AVS) give this thing a hard time (not that you did) but, but for people like me who've only recently been able to put time and money into game collecting and AV improvements, it's a great way to play the games, and very convenient. Of the 25 NES carts I own (mostly my childhood collection), only six are on the NES Classic. Besides, I froze my butt off getting one at launch lol.

[@holotape]

I love that intro music!

[@marceloramos2939]

Best review for the NES classic guys!!! Please do the retrobit generations!!

[@ToolShopGuy]

Love the channel guys! When is the SNES classic edition video coming out?

[@eskimojoe6564]

Still looks amazing sitting on the shelf.I normally play my nes games on my av famicom on my ol crt.

[@kohZeei]

Best review of nes classic!

[@manichispanic999]

I love the intro song.

[@nathanddrews]

I have been waiting for this review since the NES classic was announced.

[@DonYagamoth]

I appreciate you emphasizing the point of input lag by selecting and inserting a Seiken Densetsu 3 cartridge - as much as I like that game, it really emphasizes style over controls ^^;

[@budfahnestock2418]

maybe that staticy fuzz noticed from sharpening the image is from some sort of feedback in the system itself, or maybe how it's powered

[@predabot__6778]

That was precisely what I was thinking too! Nintendo has had some issues with creep and interference from components recently - for instance, the connectivity-issues with the Switch Joycon at launch was caused by insufficient insulation. Having someone like SpawnWave take the piece apart and look at the internals could probably figure the issue out - some simple conductive foam might be all you need to get rid of the problem! = )

[@eloratings]

I finally got one from GameStop. I had to pre order it last week. They came out last week on July 20th.

[@user-xg9gm7xk7i]

Потрясающе ! Теплые и детальные обзоры! Спасибо за открытие!

[@mitu123Copper]

I think I rather get a retrousb AVS after seeing this. Nice video on this as well.

[@RedArremer]

I got the NES Classic for collectable reasons, but yeah, AVS is a much better solution if you can afford it.

[@willmitchell8500]

i mean thats very "id rather get a bmw m3 than a Toyota Corolla." The amount of people REALLY cross shopping these is super low; the audiences don't intersect.

[@northwindkey]

I use an AVS with an Everdrive. Pretty much the same as this, but with the games that I want, and better sound.

[@willmitchell8500]

darkstar100x the same only that it costs ten times as much for your set up that's my point. it's what I'd prefer too, but it's not for everyone.

[@chigimonky]

Will Mitchell "ten times as much"... 10x70=$700 🤔

[@gamerdude612]

I love the power up sounds that's a nice touch good vid I will be receiving my nes mini soon I hope think I'll get it this time maybe next year we'll get a snes classic edition or n64👍.

[@bennahum9642]

Awesome video, exactly the questions no other channel answered. The sound mix is pretty disappointing for me, input lag is not an issue because I'm not good enough anyway.

[@monwoo10]

This thing is definitely worth it for the ability to mod the console to put every nes game onto it

[@bootlegcraig6525]

Good job guys

[@chevy-is-a-good-boy]

Superb review! The Classic NES looks awesome on display, good thing too since I forgot how much I didn't care for the 8 bit era of games XD Bring on the SNES!

[@paulanderson929]

That sound delay was noticeable in your presentation. I think that would bother me, with the input lag... the AVS system is still looking like my pick since I have a good library of carts and possibility of getting more games. Thanks MLiG!

[@mitu123Copper]

Yep, same for me, rather go for the retrousb AVS as well.

[@lyianx]

15:28 It will ALWAYS be Mike Tyson or no punchout for me.

[@erniesdeck7550]

i can deff hear it!!

[@ParanoidThalyyMVS]

It's a shame MLiG never did a video on the NES Classic when hacked :( This one was really great though!

[@emmettturner9452]

"Nintendo has always prided themselves on the accuracy of emulation on the Virtual Console service" NO THEY DON'T! The ending to Ninja Gaiden is glitched on Wii VC (castle remains intact). The input mapping oversteers causing racers to spin out for no reason in Mario Kart 64 (much like using some unofficial 3rd-party controllers on a real N64), the analog mapping uses translation that mucks up certain moves, like Link's magic-less sword spin in OoT, the resolution of N64 emulation isn't even close (double), and the Classic Controller Pro will disable the B button when you get fancy with the analog stick (I uploaded a video to my CZroe channel). Every time they improve an emulator to release a new game those improvements don't get ported back to previous versions, which is why you see the spinning N on some N64 games and not others. Sorry, but their VC has always failed to impress and has never been something to be proud of. Look at the stickers hiding their shame on the back of Classic NES Series GBA games: it covers mention of a 2p mode that still exists in the emulator. There's just WAY too much latency to be playable.

[@j0nnyism]

N64 emulation has been very inaccurate on pc. It’s a shame Nintendo haven’t offered a decent alternative. Original hardware is still the only way to go for that and the Saturn. Maybe one day someone will get it right

[@pferreira1983]

The Wii VC games are full of bad emulation. Not sure what they meant there. 😂

[@carefulman3673]

@@j0nnyism mednafen has a good saturn emulator :) and for n64, yse the angrylion plug in for accuracy, or gliden64 for visuals. It's not cycle accurate, especially with cen64 dead, but it's not as bad as it used to be.

[@HamtaroSonicHedgehog]

Funny thing is, I recently got this thanks to my sister who was able to grab a couple of NES Classic Editions on ebay at a good deal after finding out about the discontinuation, and I didn't really notice any input lag when I tried the thing out, at least not to the point where it would hinder gameplay for me. Actions were quick and responsive for me. Maybe it's probably because my TV can handle these kinds of things better than some others. (Probably helps that the HDTV that I have only outputs 720p and 1080i.)

[@chrishansen5970]

sick intro m8

[@goodall1bay]

I think these mini consols are brilliant. I have taken them on caravan trips and to friends and family homes.

[@RarefoilB]

11:03 Oops, that says "RGB303 & 304." Should say "RGB303 & 305."

[@ironhide3732]

The Raspberry Pi Retropie option runs Circles around this console. Besides the fact you can choose the RGB color Palette the NES classic Uses, you can even use a NES Classic Theme for the Frontend on the Raspberry Pi. and the emulation is superb even if it's not original hardware. Amazing Video!

[@furydeath]

The Iron Universe not sure what's worst the cry. of. under stock or everyone going on about pi

[@ironhide3732]

furydeath Yeah I feel ya. If I were crazy enough about the NES Classic I would just get a 3D Printed case of the NES Classic for my retropie

[@Diablokiller999]

How about an emulation mini-series? Maybe introduce some filtering methods or scaler like HQ, Lanczos, SAI,SAL, phosphor etc.? I bet most people really don't know their specific effects ^^ After introducing the NES Mini Filtering-Methods it would be nice to have a small compendium at hand and I think you guys are the perfect fit for this topic :)

[@nocturnal0072]

I think the topic of emulation is a rabbit hole. It will never end.

[@Sparkykelly1]

I pre-ordered mine back in July & got it on release. Unfortunately it's a Xmas present so I have to wait till Xmas to play mine but I did start it up quickly just to be sure it's working, and I'm very happy with it. I do however need to buy a longer HDMI cable & I might try get one of the WII classic controllers to have a longer cable. ps. The console doesn't come with a plug. it was advertised that way so not sure if it's all of Europe or just Ireland that was hit like that.

[@Microwave414]

I think the film effect going on the back of the screen is to simulate the same effect you would get on a consumer grade CRT even if you did use shielded cables. Shouldn't be on every setting but it should be on the CRT filter.

[@Tailslol]

yea i love the nes mini rgb palette and crt filter,and i would love to have it in regular emulation of raspberry pi. but yea i have the nes mini now.

[@Onemanjim]

Great video. Are you planning to do the same for the SNES Classic?

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] That ship has kind of sailed, though we've shown the SNES Classic in passing here and there where it was relevant to an episode. Digital Foundry did a great episode on the SNES Classic and covered everything we would've and more.

[@madsaltyskills]

amazon announce there going to have 1 in stock every 20 years!!

[@Coaster42]

I laughed at this more than I should have. Probably because I was one of the people screwed over by Amazon. Still don't have one yet...

[@davidhamlin7932]

Wire extensions off of Amazon work great I love them

[@pokepress]

It could also serve as a preview of what NES VC will look like on the Switch. Hopefully they can knock a few frames off the sound lag there. Does the CRT display mode seem comparable to the one in Mario Maker?

[@plutterton]

Insertion Shots: 1:04 2:01 2:03 2:05 2:10 2:16 2:32 3:24 3:26 5:36 5:51 14:54

[@clydecashDEEP]

*panting*

[@nocturnal0072]

I know exactly why I have this erection.

[@alf717]

Thank you for posting this. I spent so much time trying to get one that I now feel like I wasted my time. I'll just wait it out. I might even pass on it. The sound and input lag will drive me nuts. I always felt something was up with Punch Out on Wii U when I couldn't beat Soda Popinski and with lag on the mini that just sucks. The hype left me when I saw these issues.

[@MellowGaming]

I still want one of these because, man, that's a lot of great games for the price. That audio lag is definitely there though and that would drive me nuts. I'm hoping the success of this encourages Nintendo to make an official multi-console someday. Like, their version of a Retron 5.

[@lucaseverin666]

I think its kinda goofy that its so small and the controller wire is so short but i love the quality of the emulation