I enjoy your videos because you get the job done properly. You show the flaw between both crimpers. Always come back to you when need something explaining or showing how it is done correctly!
@MediaSock5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review, it made finding the right crimper much, much easier, I've been down this route before when I purchased a Japanese Engineer PAD -09 & a PAD-11 crimper but before I did I made the mistake of buying a cheap Chinese crimper from eBay & it turned out to be a waste of money, it was completely useless so now I make sure I listen to people with more experience than me before I make a purchase. 👍👍👍
@TheSitecommander8 жыл бұрын
I got one of the cheap ones a couple of months ago, I haven't had a problem with it, works great every time, no complaints, but then again I'm not trying to sell anything either!
@sessionfiddler8 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was actually looking for the difference between a $25-$50 (Canadian) crimp tool and an Amp tool that I recall costing nearly $200.
@Azeazezar8 жыл бұрын
Wow, that 2 pound tool is so much nicer than the one i used last week for my wiring. I got mine for free! with an ADSL modem(Or something) years ago, and i knew i had it in a drawer somewhere so i didn't get a new one. But yours actually has blades to cut the insulation! And it works! Mine? I used 5 plugs for 2 ends! (RJ45) Mine does have a little chain, so you wont cut yourself on the blades. I wont be using my Lotus Geräte tool ever again.
@soilmanted6 жыл бұрын
The cheap tool worked fine on an 8p8c (RJ45) plug. The slight difference in height between the mandrils was not enough to have a noticeable effect upon pushing the pins down. They were all pressed down as evenly as I've ever seen any pressed. The 8p8c plug was a better fit into its hole in the tool than the 4p4c plug was and since the 8p8c hole was in the center of the tool, the forces on the plug did not cause the plug to tilt when the tool was squeezed. So: great tool for crimping an 8p8c plug. On my first crimp, I pressed down very hard, twice, and the plastic thing that crimps the cable sheath in place got pushed down too far and broke off, but on 4 or 5 subsequent crimps it got pushed down the right amount. Now, I just put the plug into the tool, press down once on the tool, making sure the plug stays straight and doesn't tilt and is properly aligned with the mandrill, and continue pressing until the cutting blade just makes contact with the cutting board - until the tool handles reach the end of their travel. I just hold the tool in that position for about 5 seconds. I do not squeeze really hard. I just squeeze once; I do not let go and squeeze a second time. For crimping 8p8c plugs I can't complain at all. I paid $4.99 US for this tool, shipping included, and the company I bought it from, they must have payed about $3.50 to ship it, by US postal service. It would probably cost me a little more, about $3.90, to ship it back, so I have no intention of bothering to send it back should I ever decide I don't like it for some reason. If the cuttting blades get dull I'll just use a single-edge razor blade. The double leverage makes the tool very very easy to squeeze. Neither elbow-grease nor knee-KY-Jelly is necessary. Yes there are some imperfections in the way the plugs fits into their holes in the tool. You have to make sure the plug isn't pushed in too far in and isn't left too far out. I just look at the mandrel and make sure it is going to push down at the right spot above the pins.
@soilmanted6 жыл бұрын
OK my el-cheapo crimper arrived and I tried it out. My opinion? Really nice design, with double leverage mechanism, but poor implementation. Before I go any further, the tool is a sandwhich: the "bread" is fairly thick sheet metal, the filling is that light but rugged nylon stuff that light-duty tools are often made out of. It is the same color gray as the metal is painted, so you might not realize it is nylon until you look closely. The crimping parts that contact the plugs are all steel. On mine, one of the first things I noticed is that the little mandrills that push down on the pins inside the plug, are not all the same length. That may account for why when you used it all the pins were not pushed down as far as each other. Also, on mine, there was a bridge of paint between 2 of the mandrills. I am wondering what would have happened if I had tried to use the tool without first scraping the paint away with a tiny flat-blade jeweler's screwdriver. I'm waiting for my RJ45's plugs to arrive but I already had some 4p4c RJ12 type plugs, and I tried the tool out on one of those. A problem with the implementation is that the hole in the tool is a little bit larger from side to side than the plug, so when you press down on the plug, it rocks off to one side - and thus the pins are pressed in in a stepwise manner, with each pin from one side to the other being pushed down a little less than the previous pin. I guess next time I try to crimp an RJ12 I will simply place a thin cardboard or paper shim on each side of the plug, to help it remain straight up and down as I squeeze the tool. If they had only machined this tool more carefully, it may have been probably the best tool out there. It seems like it is fundamentally really an elegant design. Because of the double leverage, you don't need a lot of strength to squeeze down all the way. The mandrils go straight into the plug, rather than approach at an angle as they do in some single-leverage tools. Too bad they aren't all the same length. As you noticed, the stripper for the outside sheath of flat telephone wire does not do a very neat job. I trimmed up the sheath with a tiny dissecting scissor. Probably easier to just use a razor blade, carefully. The blades in the tool are going to get dull, and new blades will cost more than a new tool. So I figure I ought to get used to using a razor blade. That blade in the tool that is "dangerous" - maybe just remove it altogether. It has also occurred to me that it might be beneficial to file down the mandrills until they are all the same length. The tool does not look difficult to take apart. It is held together with easy to remove and replace e-clamps, and some philips-head screws. I suspect you may need to use lock-tite on the screw threads.
@roboticrebel40923 жыл бұрын
Had a very similar tool at work. Did the job fine, never had issues with it. The build quality was better than the one in the video tho. The cutting your fingers open definitely happened but after a month I just learned to avoid the sharp blade Yesterday got the one that's in the video and it doesn't crimp rj45, just as you said
@SamvJones9 жыл бұрын
Nice review and I made the same choice feeling £2 is less that a coffee so probably not what one should pay for what is quite a complex tool (in the application being a bit fiddly). I do think you are little unfair on the cheap pair they are very accurate in that they are in the right shape and they are very portable, I mean they fit in your hand right! Anyway keep up the good work.
@lewisf182 жыл бұрын
I bought the "cheap" tool but for more than 2pounds. I'm looking forward to trying it out😂. Main issue i have before I've tried it though is that it won't crimp pass through rj45 plugs whereas the "good" tool I think does
@gvvq-pi5ml6 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, just a comment, i bought a kit off ebay for about £12 and that has some of those cheap crimping tools in, admittedly i haven't used it yet, but i tried a plug in there, RJ45 and it looks absolutely perfect, it looks pretty well make, the cutter looks ok too, it all looks pretty well aligned and no movement, this one comes in a pouch with cutter, screwdrivers and cable tester etc...lot of stuff in there for the price, prob from China i would think..from Fred in Essex uk.
@bennettste8 жыл бұрын
My £100 Siemens rj45 crimper finally broke after 20 odd years of use and I was forced into getting that green one for a 10 euro in wholesaler. I've done around 300 ends with it over the last six months and it has already started playing up. I now don't know if I should just bite the bullet and spend £60 on a crimper or if I'll be happy with the quality of a £30 one.
@hyperhektor77337 жыл бұрын
if you use it for work it pays of itself
@petershelper7 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, Watching this video makes me a little uneasy! I got a tool that looks just like the cheap pair of crimping tool. It was a part of a package including other network tools, some of which are passable including the battery powered cable plug continuity checker! I have fallen foul of the sharp blade catching and cutting a little of my finger! I have attempted to get something to keep the crimping tool safe, but I am still searching! I also attempted to locate the blue handled ratchet crimping tool that is the good one, but apart from locating an "image", I could not find any website yet where I could purchase a pair!
@Mymatevince7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Amazon have very similar crimpers to the blue ones, have a look at amzn.to/2yBAjLV (that is an affiliate link so I get a few percent kickback if you buy). Have a read of the reviews to see if you like the look of them. You will find other versions on Amazon and eBay. Thanks Vince :-)
@codbudgie5 жыл бұрын
don't you find when you use the rj45 only crimper that you don't get a nice click on the end when you place it in the port and the cable will pull out easily without having to depress the tab?
@maggiewasagooddog7 жыл бұрын
I bought the newer version of your cheap tool, and they've fixed the cutting portion of the tool so that there's no overlap. However, there's still no lock and the bladed is still lethal.
@skriptjk6 жыл бұрын
Where can i find it? Thank you
@soilmanted6 жыл бұрын
To prevent the cutting blade from being exposed you could wrap a rubber band around the handles. Or you could just remove the blade and use a separate single edge razor blade, a diagonal cutter, etcetera., instead. Or you could place a piece of thin sheet metal above the blades and hold it down with the screws used to hold the blades down, through holes in the sheet metal that are spaced so that the tool will be closed when the screws go through the holes. You could cut a groove alongside one of the holes, so that you can swing the sheet metal around, in order to allow the handles to open.
@xxxyyy95446 жыл бұрын
I have used cheapo ebay crimpers. One I got years ago worked with only a rare fail. I bought a second cheapo recently when I mislaid the first one and it is hopeless. Seems to crimp unevenly. Now got a Knipex crimper which is great and never fails but was costly.
@CamelCasee Жыл бұрын
I use a cable tie over the handle of the cheap one to keep it closed when not in use.
@LAGUNAMAN19725 жыл бұрын
hello vince cant sime to find the video you did for the rj12 and rj46 on the same cable can you send it please if you still have it many thanks
@gingerninja71876 жыл бұрын
Hi great video is there any difference between the tool needed to crimp standard rj45 and a modular rj45 I purchased one of these cheap universal crimping tools it only lasted twice it’s pointless trying to save money it’s just just false economy
@MercianUK4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, have you (or any of the community) got experience with pass-through type RJ45 connectors and crimping tools? If so, what's your opinion on those?
@ivan8686 жыл бұрын
Green one is better than blue crap! I use green one from 10 years and they are most precise tool that I ever try. They are lighter, smaller and with proper X-construction.
@lachlanhunt7 жыл бұрын
I just spent $20 at Bunnings (Australia) for one that looks very similar to that cheap model to use for Cat 6 and RJ45. It's rubbish. It pushes the pins down, but it just breaks the bit of plastic at the back that's supposed to grip the cable, rather than pushing it down flat. Do not buy that, or anything like it. I'm not going to waste any more connectors on it. The cutters also don't work for stripping cat 6. It just tears it even ended up cutting some of the wires when it shouldn't have. I'm going to return it and find out where I can get a decent ratchet style one.
@soilmanted6 жыл бұрын
To prevent the tool from breaking the piece of plastic that is supposed to grip the cable sheath, you might try taking a small file and filing the mandrel down just a hair. Maybe just remove the layer of paint.
@DJVIPERG4 жыл бұрын
excellent video!! thanks
@Lloyd.B.3 жыл бұрын
The cheap green one won't do cat6a will it?... It'll crush the plug?... I just ordered a kit with them in assuming they would do cat6a >.
@Lloyd.B.3 жыл бұрын
Just got them. There is a retaining clip thing that holds the back plate on, I just took it and the back plate off, and maybe it would crimp cat6a like that, I dunno. 3:40 - That top retaining clip, and plate I mean... That's the one that crushes cat6a plugs I assume?.. It's obviously not designed for taking off but may still work, if you're not doing loads of them, and don't want to spend loads on a special crimper that does cat6a.
@jamalal-raisi69884 жыл бұрын
I guess it is unfortunate you got a deffective unit as I do have one though brand is different but works perfectly fine and I have bought it for nearly £4 and it has a kind of spring to lock blades area when not in use. Which is a perfect tool for personal use.
@jamalal-raisi69884 жыл бұрын
But generally speaking thanks for all the efforts you are putting to educates us all, it is very much appreciated. God bless you
@Ymac1019 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, I'm looking for a good RJ45/12/11 crimper, and I wondered if there it a difference between "CAT 5" branded crimpers and "CAT 6" branded ones. Will it make a difference? Love your videos!
@Mymatevince9 жыл бұрын
+Ymac101 Hi, I wasn't aware they were advertised as cat5e or cat6 crimpers, it is probably on ebay or amazon so they get the key words in the search. There will be no difference between them, both cat5e and cat6 RJ45 plugs are the same size externally.Many thanks Vince
@Ymac1019 жыл бұрын
+My Mate VINCE Thanks for the quick answer! Just got a "Klein Tools" ratcheting crimper off of amazon, knew to look out for a "blade-guard" and a reliable brand Thank you!
@Nellysdomain9 жыл бұрын
Nice review matey
@mr_m-b-q19567 жыл бұрын
i always use this and yes its very nicer and great working for me great video thanks for giving information .......,
@jakehall128 жыл бұрын
Do you know the brand name of that professional tool? Is it trendnet?
@Mymatevince8 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry I don't know, it was a long time ago and the marking on the tool have long gone!
@jakehall128 жыл бұрын
+My Mate VINCE TRENDnet TC-CT68 RJ11/RJ45 Cable Crimper www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0000AZK4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b0uJxb7Q7J5BH Would this be a suitable tool Thanks
@Mymatevince8 жыл бұрын
It looks identical but it doesn't mention the RJ10 plugs in the listing. I can see the 8P and 6P on the photo for the RJ45 and RJ11/RJ12 but on the other side of my tool it has 4P for the very thin RJ10 plugs (which you may never use) and it doesn't show the photo of the other side so maybe it is there. Otherwise it looks the same so I am sure it will be fine.
@jakehall128 жыл бұрын
+My Mate VINCE thanks for the help
@action9636 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this crimping tool is junk..i think your too kind, i just had 1 job to do so i bought them but they couldn't even do that once im very careful and meticulous..if u have 1 job buy the wire pre-plugged, if theres lots of jobs buy a good tool. Great video
@ryansta5 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@UNKNOWN-le2tu3 жыл бұрын
my crimper only does rj45 and rj11.
@kattmandu6 жыл бұрын
Who are all these people commenting saying their cheap tool is flawless? The sellers?
@Shannock95 жыл бұрын
Same problem on same cheap tool - doesn't press all RJ45 pins down evenly. Magnified examination of the metal "comb" that presses the pins shows the teeth are not all the same height. Also the bit that crimps the plastic is wrong relative height wrt the comb. >>Not even good for the "one job"
@JeffBourke6 жыл бұрын
A locking metal chain would probably double the price
@necrostalker63176 жыл бұрын
Got the cheap tool before this vid and realized how many connectors and time will be wasted on this poor quality tool. Shame really cuz most things from chine are built better these days. Then again I fall into the "I'm barely going to use it category". If I had to buy again or use daily I would recommend the $35 one.
@gtxnew12818 жыл бұрын
For ~2.5$ is good....
@Bodragon5 жыл бұрын
(6:50) - "...a lot *_fewer_* wires...", not "...a lot less wires..." Please note that this isn't me commenting but my die-hard retentive anus. Thanks. >
@Bodragon5 жыл бұрын
But you didn't test any of them, ...electrically... Shoulda done that mate before chopping of the ends. >
@saif3848 жыл бұрын
lol i bought one and mine works perfectly well for RG45 xD guess im lucky lol
@Chavacano4 жыл бұрын
..its actually correctly spelled ..you have to understand that it is written in Spanish........... :)
@Bodragon5 жыл бұрын
(9:25) - Oh my daze... Make yer fookin mind up fellah. >
@Bodragon5 жыл бұрын
(17:53) - but excuse me please. They ain't nowhere near the correct order. OK, wotcha got there? What order you got there, going from orange-stripe down... Come on, Bub... >
@dennisqwertyuiop7 жыл бұрын
got what you paid for
@joglo38 жыл бұрын
Lots of waffle for a simple review which could have been done in less than half the time.
@TheDajoca7 жыл бұрын
So, show us all how it should be done then. Or.........
@joglo37 жыл бұрын
Who are us all?
@1988dgs4 жыл бұрын
Double the video time, double the ad revenue 😉
@tekmadpolska6737 жыл бұрын
i have bought the cheap one. got a crimper,a cable cutter,5 connector,50 pieces of rj45, and a nice cable tester. all costs less than 12 euros. and i already did 10 crimping. and even for one time it cause any problem. cheap means bad,this always not true. you want to show it bad,so you did some trick and it cause malfunction.