Mystery Below: The Legend of the Seneca Lake Monster

[@ws5397]

I scuba dived in Seneca Lake and all I saw was weeds. But the fish in that lake are very large.

[@stevewhite7426]

I was born on Seneca Lake and saw some very large lake trout but not like the legendary ones of yesteryear. They still hold the annual lake trout derby there I think but, as large as they are, lakers and rainbows are smaller today.

[@stevewhite7426]

I’ve heard the legend all my life. My grandfather had a cabin on Canandaigua lake where a college friend of my mother’s saw a strange creature following her canoe. She heard a snorting sound and thought a deer was swimming and turned around to see a large serpent like head. Now I live in Ithaca and hear about the “monster” in Cayuga lake

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

It is believed the Cayuga Monster is the original. Records show the "sightings" predate all other lake monsters in the area (outside of Lake Ontario)

[@stevewhite7426]

@@twintiersfilmfest1366 is there any documentation, photos of early sightings on Cayuga?

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

@@stevewhite7426 There is. When I was researching information for the documentary, I found one article that was particularly interesting. It was published on Jan. 5th, 1897 in the Ithaca Daily Journal and described the 69th annual anniversary of what they called "Old Greeny". There are various articles throughout the early years, sporadically - but the reason this was interesting because it 1. Gave insight on repeated sightings, 2. Gave us a date to go back too which is 1828. This is important because 1828 was the first year of the completion of the Erie Canal connecting Cayuga and Seneca lakes to lake Ontario - which would make it hypothetically possible for a large serpent to travel from the ocean to Cayuga/Seneca. The earliest reports I found were in the New York Spectator. There was one sighting in 1829 at St. Catherine's, Canada (lake Ontario) and a Welland Canal intelligencer gave insight on the sighting. Some articles of that time reference "sightings 20-25 years ago" as passed down stories where one such story alleges a Serpent chased a boat ashore near Oswego sometime between 1804 and 1809. Another alleges a British sailor was attacked, killed and taken under by a large snake near Sodus Point during the war of 1812.

[@SLC-zf8kd]

Snorting, eh? Just what Caddy (Cadborosaurus), the legendary sea monster here in B.C. and around the San Juan Islands, was caught doing on many occasions. Highly recommend a book on Cadborosaurus by Dr. LeBlond and Dr. Bousfield.

[@stevewhite7426]

@@SLC-zf8kd Interesting indeed!

[@Fafnir_Der_Wyrm]

I saw it. I was kayaking at dusk when a great beast from the Triassic Period surfaced beside me. It studied me carefully and said, "Imma need tree-fiddy."

[@MatthewHavertzPurposePictures]

What a cool news story! Thanks for sharing. I found this video because I made a documentary about a lake monster in my home state, Utah, USA.

[@Salfordshire]

01:52 as Pike starts to say "every time somebody sees it..." There's something far out in the water, just right of center. Then it submerges. Just saying 🙂

[@robormiston2841]

My friend caught an 19 foot stergion in the Columbia River. It took him 4 hours to get it to shore. He said he was in an 18 foot boat and it was bigger then the boat. This was 20 years ago. But they do get pretty big. Alot bigger then 10 foot!

[@stevewhite7426]

The Old Man and the Sea (Hemingway) is quite a story!

[@MrTodfoulk]

bro i was a fish biologist in the earl 90's and seen them over 25 feet! i dont care who doesnt belive me, coolest thing tho!

[@centrarchid]

sounds like that was probably a white sturgeon. Seneca Lake has lake sturgeon. Different sturgeon reach different sizes and white sturgeon are larger than lake sturgeon.

[@lifesajoke6965]

I lived in Dresden, that lake is creepy. The water is always freezing cold and it has black spots you can see on the surface where the deep drop offs are. Its over 600 ft deep in some spots.

[@yasminhelenendangeredspecies]

​@@chingvang9320it would? Better not look then.

[@asylumharborproductions3364]

Always cold, but never frozen.

[@paulmcadam6825]

Most likely so called, Super Eels".....scientists now believe these can grow upwards of 35ft. Very large Eels have been spotted in many waterways and they survive in a range of temperatures.

[@SP_33333]

🤔😬

[@Rod_I._Rigo]

Do these eels also have those scales/bump thingys on their backs? Just wondering.

[@Hunterslife315]

Yeah but els don't or can't just raise their head up like the video we're seeing.

[@Hunterslife315]

I've saw a huge eel at Seneca park. Had to have been 25ft plus

[@paulmcadam6825]

@@Rod_I._Rigo actually Eels can do this. They're also know to eat almost anything animal or vegetable matter. Left unchecked, like some catfish, they will keep growing to exceptional lengths. They can be quite voracious!

[@vrnski0]

I just had to do some research after I was out peddle boating and a huge snake kind of creature hit our boat. I’m shook 😬

[@majormackenzie834]

Tell us more pls

[@florptytoo]

Sturgeon?

[@davidwhite7350]

Huge... like as big around as a person huge? I've seen it near Valois while swimming

[@daviddesmondyork6306]

Every lake must have a monster (to qualify as a lake).

[@hokahey7236]

You know the footage has got to be incredible when they are only willing to show half a second of it 🙄

[@asylumharborproductions3364]

Not our footage. The footage is not part of our documentary and it's not even from Seneca Lake. The video looks faked.

[@beckyobryan489]

There are too many of these creatures in too many lakes around the world for there not to be something to it.

[@originalshadowfax]

The one with "horns" is a log that has come up from the bottom and turned over

[@nistelse3859]

looks like my evil half sister doing her thang.

[@johnwalker9315]

I'll never forget being in a rowboat with my cousins, crossing a huge lake in Minnesota. In the middle of the lake, I thought what if there was some monster that would attack the boat. My cousin told me never to leave your fingers over the side of a boat, because a muskie or Pike couldn't come up and snap a finger off. People are always dismissing every sighting, as if people are unable to identify it.

[@leroyfisher9768]

Sturgeon don't stick it head out of the water like that

[@MrFrup]

To me the picture from Belhurst Castle (2.05) looks like a race between rowing boats, and a safety boat that follows

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

Any specific kind of rowing boat for reference?

[@NolliD969]

I live like 2 minutes away from the lake and there is a lot off boating accidents and it is about 509 feet but people say it’s deeper

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

651 feet in the deepest part near Dresden.

[@coppering]

all lakes have a monster. sheeesh.

[@blakeevans4441]

@ 2:12 That's the HWS crew team lol - 3 eight's and a launch.

[@wolfgangmuller9661]

00:35 I see a hand sticking out of the water, waving :-) ha, ha, ha

[@davidsoutar8508]

I've lived in the finger lakes region all of my life and I have never heard of a sturgeon being caught in Seneca lake, but I have seen some hellishly big images on a couple of different fish finders at about 150-200 feet depth.

[@privatedata665]

We saw some very large "somethings" back in the late 80's . This was up by Sampson and 300 ft deep . It did not look like bait pods .....

[@katinabaragona3122]

If it was a sturgeon it wouldn’t have been able to curve it’s back up and down into 3 humps like that - like a serpent snake like dinosaur

[@SLC-zf8kd]

Exactly. The size and the serrated back at 2:06 speak strongly against the sturgeon explanation.

[@asylumharborproductions3364]

The only explanation for the sturgeon theory was if several sturgeon were together and following each other to form a sort of line, but according to DEC, sturgeon have never been found in Seneca.

[@shaun8256]

Been living in New York all my lifeless than an hour away, this is the first I've heard of this, but who knows unless we get down in the water and start mapping underwater, there could be caves to hide in or even go from lake to lake. They are close enough together a cave system could be down there. I won't believe it till I see one personally or we finally get decent photos or video would be better.

[@graceyjewels7148]

Sturgeon don’t arch their backs like that. These animals are well documented over the centuries by reputable mariners.

[@colinmckenzie9272]

it could be a massive musky

[@marknelson2-ih6sq]

So, we get to see only 2 seconds of it ???

[@madax3276]

Precious video thank you so much. I introduced this video my Ch・№296. Please way to go. Sincerely yours.

[@jaybennett9026]

Don't Know.. But That News Lady Looks Like She Saw A Few One Eyed Trouser Monsters In Her Day.

[@GordiansKnotHere]

She looks like Gina Gerson.

[@cahg3871]

That was a classless comment.👎

[@samuela9058]

When I was a child fishing at a weird lake I remember something massive jumping out of the water making a explosion out of the lake

[@jimmyburner1603]

I've seen it.... I grew up in Geneva, I was at the lake every night

[@jimmyburner1603]

@Pat Luxor yup

[@jimmyburner1603]

@Pat Luxor nope

[@jimmyburner1603]

@Pat Luxor no reason in explaining to you.... who are you, what credentials do you have. Foh

[@jimmyburner1603]

I said what I said 5 months ago, you replied "nope", so why I am I gonna explain anymore to you

[@captainofmysoul6162]

please, do tell. I live in Elmira, NY, so have been on Seneca Lake many times. Very interested in details of your encounter.

[@mikenaykki2173]

I believe it👍👍😎

[@ronsilvia8127]

Things from the past that are documented and still seen in this day and age are not cases of mistaken identity.

[@wisdomlounge4452]

Wherever there's a large body of water you can count on people reporting supposed monsters. With such an abundance of lake monsters around the world, you'd think that at least one dead carcass would have washed up ashore confirming the existence of at least one of the many supposed lake monsters. I don't think any of them are real. This goes to show how everywhere large bodies of water, exist you'll find people whose imaginations get the better of them, and in remarkably similar ways.

[@anonymousgoblin792]

I wouldn’t say all of them were made up tho that is certainly a possibility but I personally think that there are a few real ones out there.

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

It's all perspective really and new species are discovered all the time, especially in the oceans. In the specific case of Seneca, it is 651 ft deep and spring fed. The current of the water, especially over the deepest parts actually give a downward flow which is why many drowning victims are never recovered. It is too deep for divers as well. Any supposed lake monster that would die in Seneca, would probably sink to the depths and never wash up.

[@SLC-zf8kd]

Several dead carcasses of various types of sea monsters have been washed ashore in the last few years, I keep track of those: in Scotland, in Northern Spain, in West Sussex, here in British Columbia (a baby Caddy on Triangle Beach in Richmond, B.C., there is a clear picture available online, clearly not a seal, some sort of ocean reptile with four flippers). A friend of mine was out in a river delta photographing wild birds and took a photo of a bald eagle above the water carrying a young Caddy it had caught in the river where it joins the Straight of Georgia. Lots of evidence.

[@oghash4912]

​@patluxor2482😂 right, booster shots for all the 🐑🐑🐑🐑

[@stephenlangsl67]

At 3:36 in the video: "Some People say it's bottomless". If it wear bottomless,it would have to go right through the Earth it's self and that's impossible.

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

It's "bottomless" based on legend and lore. Obviously, its not literally bottomless, I didn't say that to mean literally. It is 651 feet deep in the deepest part around Dresden, according to NAVSEA. The bottomless legend comes from the fact that drowning victims are rarely recovered and the Native Americans believed the lake was a force of nature not to be messed with. Plus, you have drowning victim drowning in Seneca and being found in Cayuga, which adds the mystery of if there are underwater caverns. No lake (or ocean) is ever bottomless. Everyone knows that.

[@susanfalla2741]

Sometimes bottomless is also in reference to boggy mud/silt on bottom where everything just sinks into it.

[@BrianGoguen-k7k]

Why do they call it a monster?

[@thehairywoodsman5644]

Christopher Pike...original captain of the starship Enterprise !

[@asylumharborproductions3364]

Indeed. Starfleet has given me a new mission to document new life on past earth in 2023.

[@mathughsyoutubeworld2655]

I saw sonething at seneca lake Ohio looked like Nessie nope it’s just a deer that swam so far

[@stevewhite7426]

The thing that my mom’s friend saw (and I knew her well as an honest woman) was no sturgeon as sturgeons don’t have a long neck!

[@davidwhite7350]

I seen it when I was about 13 years old and I am 35 now. I remember it like it was yesterday. Scared the hell out of me.

[@yesitsmecatelynn6062]

What! I live in Geneva I never new abt this monster thing-

[@susanfalla2741]

When sightings happen where there are "horns" on it's head, I have often wondered if it's a giant snail without a shell?

[@specialized29er86]

I want to believe.

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

Thanks for noticing my X-Files shout out.

[@angelagola1750]

I love senaka lake I always go there now we don't

[@adlg4234]

These creatures do exist, how widespread, it seems because of rarity of sightings....maybe very few. Since a human's lifespan is short...if certain racial groups don't have an oral history, or write it down, accounts will get lost. Many animals need to be protected, but then there are some, that are predators who will watch, if you're alone. Check ancient maps, and you'll see drawings of different kinds of sea monsters, that sailors had to be careful of. Even religious accounts of trekking through waters...one would have to be careful of said creatures. I think people put down the ideas now, because sightings are few. In S. Texas where I live, I have heard stories, of different creatures, and have encountered just glimpses of strange things. I wouldn't write it off.

[@davidsul7052]

I think they are otters.Otters are about six feet long and live in family groups. And things on the water surface can look larger than they are when seen at a distance. And I think the story descrobes an otter raising it's head out of the water and bearing it's teeth. Sturgeon can be the cause of some sightings at a distance but they don't have teeth. Large pike could also cause some distant sightings. Nothing unknown. Just an urban legend.

[@TheHannibalTV]

👽

[@carlitofernandez7833]

It definitely it is a mystery. I’ll keep watching, soon there might be one caught. Hoping…

[@marknelson2-ih6sq]

So hear a lot of people talking but 3 seconds of monster footage ??

[@jakerobinson3950]

i believe

[@johnlockman2232]

Its a branch sticking out of the water.

[@-elchoya9832]

people should stop throwing old tires and wooden logs in the lake

[@theamazingthingaboutlife]

It's real I've been on that lake

[@davidwhite7350]

I've seen it up close swimming near Valois.

[@christofmostrey5440]

Christopher Pike? Like, just say 'scan the lake Mr Spock' 😁

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

Live long and prosper my friend.

[@quacksackerthegreatstarfir6996]

No lake is bottomless. The only way a lake could be bottomless is if it went clean through the earth and out on the other side.

[@CONEHEADDK]

Wonder why some nerds don't research the pics and stuff "to the bottom". Fx find out how much wind there was, the day the video was made, and define the size of things by comparing to wave size at that wind and stuff like that.

[@stevewhite7426]

There is a secret government project going on in Seneca Lake. There’s a very large barge out in the lake near Dresden that is conducting deep lake research on the cold water about 600’ down that generate its own waves as if separate from the lake above. This is my best recollection of some material displayed in Eaton Hall I think in the 80’s? Anyway it sounds innocent enough but if you get “too close” to that barge, you’ll be warned off. So?

[@asylumharborproductions3364]

That's all in our new documentary. Wind was 6mph from the northwest.

[@CONEHEADDK]

@@asylumharborproductions3364 Cool. Science (not the "Mr I am Science-kind") is the way.

[@dustinsmith8851]

newscaster girl is a total smokeshow

[@Boospoochie]

Reminds me of Jennifer Aniston.

[@Ian666peace]

Jackie Denardo is better

[@GordiansKnotHere]

@@Ian666peace Looks like Gina Gerson.

[@dwill1970]

Its a turtle lol

[@Snoopy16mh]

A turtle with a Giraffe neck? Right!

[@TheZakknafien]

That bears hoodie is a real monster …. Of the midway

[@twintiersfilmfest1366]

Go Bears

[@npaujbais]

Omg, that's a log. 🙄

[@anonymousgoblin792]

2:03 oh yeah sure. A bunch of spikey logs that just so happen to be drifting in a straight line lmao.

[@uthermaceanruig5098]

The extreme hydrological violence regarding the formation of the finger lakes at the end of the younger dryas excludes the possibility of there being large prehistoric creatures living in Seneca lake.

[@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475]

...Unless it was a fry dropped by a bird. And then grew up. (Fish got in that land-locked lake somehow. There are bull sharks in Australia that way, 14ft variety.)

[@slojoe58]

I just read the story about the Otetiani's encounter with the "object". It was as he described but the boat Captain turned his ship to ram the beast but it sank before he got there. Then they spotted it again and he turned his ship so one of the paddlewheel's struck it and killed it. Using lifeboats and ropes they tried to lift it out of the water but it was too heavy and the carcass sank. No one described it as a large fish.

[@vxy357]

I don't understand why people back then felt the need to kill something that wasn't even a threat to them or wasn't even trying to harm them. Killing it was so unnecessary.

[@slojoe58]

@@vxy357 Very unnecessary!

[@oghash4912]

Right, kill first ask questions later

[@vxy357]

@@oghash4912 if it's not a threat, then there's no need to kill it. Anyone who does that is just a scared, trigger-happy coward trying to prove his manhood

[@ronyafeldman4853]

It's wood

[@leonarly7671]

Lol it's not a fish foh it had different shapes like it was 2 or 3 different seamonsters in the lake

[@CooterOnDaMind]

They say it voted for Biden!

[@jmajic4645]

Multiple times

[@emanjam45]

Must be a smart fish

[@kasperkjrsgaard1447]

Then there’s really intelligent life in that lake

[@cryptozoology505]

there is many good monster films not logs. lake brosno and lake labinker with numerous scientist seeing even the beasts. two films you can find of them are not logs and not known lake species. One is titanic size the guy films for minutes, the other looks like bronto .There explination skeptics is gas logs. If you watch these two films you will clearly see not logs. both lakes centuries sightings before lochness ,even the mongles said attacked them. a town was removed off labinker because citizens kept going missing and this beast attacks people.If you like see prehistoric dinosaur fish one my shows i have one 1800s was a living dinosaur not whale or any known species.

[@privatedata665]

where the links

[@Whatisthetruth-00]

It’s a guy underwater with a stick

[@bobknobbe3561]

chic in the purple newscaster is hotttttttt

[@johndisher8763]

Why find it, leave it alone

[@cinx028]

HOW is that fake?! You can see it flick its tongue in the air. This isn't the WHOLE video. Go see the vid.

[@hahnkf8111]

Link?

[@cinx028]

@@hahnkf8111 Let me get it find it for you.

[@paulkcormier]

those lady journalists are stunning

[@florptytoo]

I see a snake and a log.

[@ศิวพรคําใสย์]

I thinking this is in Thailand say NAGA

[@scx2355]

i loved her microexpressions at the end. (c:)

[@GordiansKnotHere]

Good clip. However, that lady news anchor at the beginning looks like she just rolled out of bed or something...

[@cryptozoology505]

Is this fake news I am a cryptozoology and fish expert. And the one film you keep showing has nothing to do with seneka lake that is a lake monster filmed in Russia in 2013. So although these is records of this creature the filmed showed is not a stick it actually is a real animal you can look up Russian lake monsters and watch it for over 5 minutes swimming around and it is much larger then any known species and maybe some sort of unknown sea snake or eel like creature. Whatever it is very interesting. The Seneca lake creature likely was a relic Giant alligator gar. in 1800s alligator gar were even in some Canadian lakes and the great lakes. So some super sized specimens were living in some lakes and then with people making cottages and traffic etc they just died out. Lake Champlain even likely had a relic population of alligator gar due to even Champlain stated some gar seen were 9 feet long. This seems much larger then typically excepted for needle nose gar. Although it could be possible .it is very unlikely needle nose gar ever have reached that big. Some for sure over 7 feet but that big hmm. No evidence you can find of one that long. However if alligator gar still did inhabit lake Champlain then it could be his statements were true.

[@dabcorn]

weed on a stick being pulled up on fishing line - this is SOoooooooooooooo stupid!!!!

[@cryptozoology505]

I did not make it clear there was more then one film on there from different locals. i am only refering to the one they show for a split second in front of a island. the other photos are from others. Yes many are a weed or stick pulled by idiotic skeptics like nichols etc but just like yourself anyone with a brain can tell a stick ones from a more likley real animal in the water. Lake monsters are many things from sharks to whales even getting up freshwater rivers. Sometimes it is logs or even odd waives can fool some. But others are not this and have a giant historic records going back hundreds of years with exact same descriptions not explained easily by the duck theories etc. nothing wrong being skeptical but to state all are this is silly.

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

@@cryptozoology505 What lake in Russia? I have never seen that clip from any other source. If you know the name of the lake please share!

[@cryptozoology505]

@@Fan_Made_Videos There is some confusion as to this. The sources seem to be mostly lake labinker. However one other source claimed from another lake. You can find it on numerous ones. There is one video called top lake monsters of russia or similar name and the guy lists that film and some others. I think was filmed in 2013 or something like that. Some are very compelling. Others for sure fake. I have seen two from russia that are extremely compelling, one from lake labinker and the other reported to be from lake labinker. This lake also even has sonar readings of a fifty foot living object witnessed by Russian scientist. As well the lake was actually evacuated due to peasants living along it were being attacked by this creature. it seems to like attacking boats. I am doing a new show soon and I cover many other ones besides those few. Scientist north american ones claim log but in two filns I assure you not a log and not any known living sea animal or lake animal world wide would fit what you see.

[@jamesnicholas4996]

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[@maikutsukino4743]

Seneca Lake. Bottomless. It's a glacial lake that has a bottom. Would people stop seeing monsters every time they see a lake? Seriously. It's getting old.

[@jonlamannamusic]

Lol keep poking that stick outta the water. So fake.

[@wayneprice2737]

Sturgeons are bottom feeders they dont surface.

[@leostawicki7283]

Why not show the footage instead of glimpes???

[@sbl9467]

One thing is true...people exaggerate and lie

[@t.j.s8477]

That's just Whoopi Goldberg

[@John-gi7qk]

Odd, some can believe in a sea monster, but about Jesus Christ, who came to earth and lived a perfect life, died a painful death for our sins, and God rose him again? Do they believe in Jesus or just creepy things mentioned in Romans 1?

[@maddenrae5844]

oh hell no

[@JTCT371]

Sturgeon are rare to see, and explain most of these sightings....but ask the average person and they have no idea what a sturgeon is or how "prehistoric" they look, and most importantly how enormous they get.

[@kekepraik2832]

So fake

[@HANKBOSS]

ALL LOCC NESS MONSTERS ALL OVER THE WORLD EXIST PUBLIC OPINION IS WRONG THEY EXISTTTTT

[@MirandaDoughty-qy9tv]

It has scales on its back. Maybe they found Godzilla😂. Sorry. I want to believe in sea monsters like that but for all we know they’re maybe just average every day sea creatures that we see all the time. We don’t know.

[@gfkusaka]

Another Bigfoot video ! . . Blurry and inconclusive 😂

[@ronintsukebin9163]

If it really existed we would know. Such nonsense.

[@daneldemeta2178]

It is not a good idea to go look for it cuz it can be very aggressive at people cuz it can be a Male watching it family to

[@CrucialOnDaBeatz]

Drain the lake… end of story

[@猿合奏会]

湖の怪獣は存在しない。怪獣がいるのは海だ！