Mystery Monday: The Lost Boys of Pickering

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[@katpeabee]

I've lived my whole life in Ontario and I can say I've never heard of this case (not that I remember). That's crazy to me. Huge props to Stephanie for pronouncing Lefebvre correctly.

[@StephanieHarlowe]

Kat Bruneau finally! I pronounced something right!!

[@melissablais6030]

I've never heard of them either and grew up in the west end of the GTA

[@katpeabee]

@@StephanieHarlowe 😄 Some of our French names have extra letters that are just not necessary. So I was impressed!

[@tessbian]

i live less than an hour away from Pickering and i have never heard of this case either

[@Genderdynia]

thinking the same thing!

[@LIBERTYSINCURSION]

The fact that 6 teenage children could go missing all at once and it's somehow not a big story is in itself a very bizarre and suspicious thing.

[@slenderman2741]

Hi! My dad worked in the regional police force during this disappearance. It was one of those cases he argued about with his superiors because he didn’t like how they had handled it. Truthfully.. they were more worried with abusing a pregnant woman on the force (and covering it up) and cheating on exams to get high paying government officials jobs to really do a proper investigation. That’s all I can say!

[@Melicious8675]

Exactly

[@sawyerthestarling]

@@slenderman2741 jfc. What is wrong with this world!? That's an important an interesting side story that I'm going to look up. Thank you.

[@worldwideissues638]

In the UK you get teenagers on the back of motocross bikes shooting off AK47's The news keeps loads of things out for some reason. Obviously crime is a big money maker for the government

[@dawneipeldauer-awanderingn825]

@@slenderman2741 yep and that's a travesty

[@jsmith5760]

Chad Smith was my cousin and my family would love to finally have closure. Thank you so much for doing this story! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@JeSuisDeTexas]

So sorry to hear you & your family have had to live without him & without answers. Wishing you all the peace you deserve 💞

[@jsmith5760]

@@JeSuisDeTexas thank you so much. His birthday just passed, he would have been 44. Xo

[@jsmith5760]

@Libby Berman thank you. It's been a long time so I am coping well now. I would just love for my family to know what happened and have that closure.

[@Hev.M]

I hope one day your family and all the families get the closure you all deserve... I cant even begin to imagine how hard it must b to never know!!! Sending positive thoughts n prayers

[@katherineeldon6937]

Trafficking hidden in plain sight. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqPPlXaFZ55kqKs

[@waltersobchak7275]

This lady is the most thorough on YT. Sometimes it’s almost like I’m listening to an audiobook.

[@tosomt5419]

yes, i'm always mind blown...sometimes she has dates and times emails were sent, color of clothes ppl were wearing, etc...she really does her homework, and clearly has a passion for what she does

[@runawaylostmymind]

So professional

[@ashaburtell9910]

I always wonder how her throat feels after she finishes. She is excellent!

[@jrotruck74]

I love listening to her stories. I found her on Facebook a few months ago and decided to search for her on YT

[@aaalayna]

yes! Love you Stephanie.

[@ashleyhumbyrd7274]

I don’t think they planned to leave even though Michael gave his mom the necklace. I’ve read a lot of stories of people saying goodbye right before they died unexpectedly. My husband died with no sign of it coming on the night. Our last conversation was the two of us goofing on each other before I went to bed. He stopped me though and said “just in case one of us dies In our sleep, I love you.” I told him I loved him too. He had no way of knowing those would be our last words but sometimes I think our inner self have an inkling of what’s to come.

[@megbee7423]

Beautiful story, although sad... Thanks for sharing. 💖

[@Peanut_taco_muffin]

I’m so sorry 😥

[@glauvie]

Those are the best last words possible in a sad situation.

[@sophiaantropova5874]

💔

[@tracybeeeee]

Wow. My greatest condolences. It's lovely that you had that moment, but your loss is still immeasurable. I hope knowing that an internet stranger was touched by your story brings a small comfort ♥

[@trashcannibal]

so much emphasis is put on them going into the lake when there is really no evidence of it. i wonder how many non-lake centred leads may have been ignored here

[@megbee7423]

Good point! Somehow I'd never even thought of this... 🤔🧐

[@SassyShell13]

Good idea! 😊😊

[@CrankyBubushka]

good point

[@krisd6811]

That's what I'm thinking. No evidence. Welp look someplace else. Also the police really slacked off here. But was it a pact thing? Were they into drugs or weird things? Did someone snatch them or worse? SIX kids gone tf?

[@sarahwatterson5706]

6:13 It’s hard for me to fathom why a case with 6 missing teenage boys did *not* become hugely publicized. It’s the kind of story the media usually loves and it could have been highly beneficial in this case, had these young mens’ story made it past their local news.

[@hardyquinn9442]

That makes it seem even more likely a cover-up happened.

[@marm2371]

It was all over the news, but I am thinking because Pickering at the time was not a city that after a few weeks of coverage, the media moved on.

[@j.robertson5516]

I remember this very well and it was hugely publicized.

[@marril96]

Remember that case of the two teen boys in the 80s who were left on train tracks and the death was claimed to be suicide? And it's suspected that local law enforcement was in cahoots with drug rings and the boys saw a drug deal and that's the most likely reason they were killed? This case reminds me of it. Could be these young men witnessed something they shouldn't have, got killed, and law enforcement wants it to stay buried.

[@19Marleymum]

I listened to that Podcast (Boys on the track) and so much police corruption.

[@debbielight9169]

I Thought The Exact Same Thing, I'm In Central Arkansas, Not Far From The Area, and Remember It Well!! Its So Scary When It Comes To CoverUps And Ive Heard Everything!! Of Course Someone Knows Something, Sounds Like A lot More Know Something And Are Scared They To Will Come Up Missing...So Sad!! For The 6 Young Men & Their Families!!!

[@amandaknoner6114]

Debbie Light I’m in NWA and i completely agree that was a huge cover up and bill clinton and his admin was behind it

[@danimotherofchickens479]

Police? You mean Bill Clinton, the boys has stumbled upon a drug deal involving politicians and local police. The boys had talked about what they saw, some of their friends also ended up dead.

[@mishmazy]

I totally agree. They may have saw something they shouldn’t have. The police department knows or knows someone who knows what happened.

[@princesscoughsyrup8885]

I was born in Ajax and lived in Pickering my entire childhood, these boys went missing shortly before my second birthday yet growing up I knew of the story, what confuses me is how I’ve yet to meet anyone outside of the city who has heard of the case. I now live on the other side of Toronto but not far, and nobody has heard of it. It’s saddening. Chad Smith’s mother still posts about the case on Facebook looking for answers, she is still desperately broken by not knowing what happened to her child or his friends. I truly hope closure is coming sooner rather than later, the poor families. I was around the age of Jay’s baby when he went missing so to know his child is still out there without any explanation as to where his father went breaks my heart. The whole story deserves so much more attention, I really appreciate you doing so.

[@catmoore2443]

Have you heard of the frog boys of China , really sad as well .

[@ellaella5537]

This is way too odd. You’d think it would have been covered nationally actually. 6 kids missing? I never heard about it either in Montréal. Makes no sense

[@sunflowerdar]

I was living in Hamilton at the time and never heard of this story until today....which seems to add up to even more of a cover up

[@hardyquinn9442]

I for one have never heard it and I've lived in and around Toronto for 3 decades. I think it's a cover-up. Considering the lack of media presence,lack of security,lack of information or cooperation, or truth... It's has no answers,no informations...just nothing

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@catmoore2443 They were from Daegu, South Korea, not China.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

One person missing is hard to understand but six young men to totally vanish is hard to fathom, poor lads. Something untoward happened.

[@melissadunton3534]

Love your name....definitely will be checking out your channel. ✌🏻😊

[@lindahargreave4875]

Danny is my son-in-law’s younger brother. It was a horrible time. His mother still waits for him to come home.

[@TruecrimerSalad]

Pls send my condolences to the families & friends. I Kno how that feels to be waiting on a missing loved one to come home, my 1st cousin was missing for a couple of months before the community search found his body in a field near a bad area. But we have that hope everyday that they'll come home any min. I can't imagine it being my own child omg I'm so sorry

[@mrs_maverick1121]

My heart breaks for all the families... I can't even begin to imagine that pain!

[@s.elizabeths]

That last sentence touched my soul. Sadly, His mother also died that day. I am so sorry .

[@jsmith5760]

It changed my family forever. I know my Aunt and my cousin still wait for some kind of explanation or closure. It's so sad. Chad and I were 3 months apart. I turned 19 that year, he would have turned 19 the following September. It changed everything. Every holiday every memory.

[@jamiewitko4240]

So sorry to you and your family and Danny’s as well 😞

[@jsmith5760]

My cousin Chad would never ever in a million year let my aunt think he was dead. That did not happen.

[@salwanawaid5176]

😢😢😫 may allah bless him btw he could be alive we can't say anything 😐😔

[@halo2d]

Salwa Nawaid agreed I believe they were trafficked, those boys would have been about 3 million dollars on the black market.

[@4Miscable]

@@halo2d I don’t think she cares about your theory on her cousin being “trafficked”.

[@thecardbunker801]

@@halo2d your a fuckin dummy my big bro (neighbor) Chad would never allow that to happen. This was 95' these boys were tough & big. Chad was an athlete & well skilled in karate among other things self defence wise.

[@dirtylittle5percent876]

@@halo2d lol.. SSUUURREE .. some random ppl were just out on a lake looking for teenage boys to traffic. I mean, wouldn't u think it's much more likely they drown, than being sold for 3 million dollars? Come on u can't be serious 😒

[@Dizzydollie7]

I have a young kid and I’m always thinking about how off the rails I’d go if she was missing at ANY age and I was told “she probably just...”

[@kristentrep5038]

Right?! My kids are 22, 19, and almost 17.. I KNOW my children..! (As do most parents!) we know when they are sick, or being dishonest with us.. we know what they would or wouldn’t do by their nature!

[@katietye3673]

DizzyDollie7 same.

[@jacquiehosey1029]

DizzyDollie7 omgosh! So me. I often wonder will it make me more prepared if it happens, or make the pain entirely worse. But I use it to be very proactive. My child ( lol) child? Is 25 and doesn’t live at home and I convinced him to do life 360 w me years ago, as well as pws for social accounts, and he added me to be able to access his cell records. If he turns up missing I’m going to potentially have to convince law that he is, then await search warrants to access his records ect. Nooooo, not gonna. I’m a private investigator by trade but let’s face it, all moms are. Lol the important thing is do not violate that trust once given and only use it when and if the worse happens.

[@janetcw9808]

Dizzie Dolly and all your replyees (probably not even a word but) AMEN SISTERS, of course we would pursue to the ends of our lives. Many Blessings to you and all you love 🙏🏻 ❤️ 🌍 🍀 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@wordsleuth992]

Kristen Trep my kids are the exact same age- 23, 19 and almost 17, but I think I have a good read on what they and their friends would and would not do. I would not be happy with this investigation or lack thereof - and I would not rest!! Could not rest!! We are talking 6 young men- this is unacceptable!!

[@Seldarius]

When I heard that the boat was considered unsinkable my first thought was: there’s a challenge for 6 drunk kids. Maybe they were more successful than anticipated? I don’t know about Lake Ontario but I seem to remember that some of the Great Lakes don’t “give their bodies back” aka they’re too cold for bodies to decompose and float.

[@nerdisaur]

Seldarius I’m not sure how likely that is for Lake Ontario, a lot of drowning victims and bodies dumped in the lake turn up downriver in Ottawa where they wash up in the shallows

[@Amsayy]

Lake Ontario is fairly warm by comparison to Huron and Superior. We’re a lot more southern, but there’s a good chance that they could have fallen victim to lake life (there’s some nasty creatures in the Great Lakes), or trapped within the wreck of a boat. It would be cold though, but not the same sort of cold that Huron and Superior has. This is something I don’t think we’ll ever know the answer too, I’m afraid.

[@allisonwilliams4536]

Torontonian here (Pickering is part of the Greater Toronto Area). The water in Lake Ontario is pretty cold (even in summer, the water is FREEZING) mostly because a) Lake Ontario is very deep, average depth is about 86 m and I believe the deepest part is somewhere around 240 m. And the west side of the lake (where Toronto and Pickering are) is much deeper than the east side. So basically all those extra cubic metres of depth make it very hard for sunlight to warm the water. and b) Lake Ontario is rarely calm. So the top of layer of water (which is usually the warmest) is constantly being disturbed by wind. Think of it as someone constantly shaking a bottle of vinaigrette. Past 20 m of depth, the water is always cold (about 0-5 C, possibly below freezing). Those first 20 m of warm water are like the oil on top of vinegar. When you give it a shake (in the case of Lake Ontario, this would be the near constant winds), the two mix. So the normally separated cold water mixes with the warm water. If the winds are strong enough, then the top layer of warm water can disappear completely and leave the water constantly cold. That being said, we do occasionally get bodies that wash up on the shores of Lake Ontario in the Greater Toronto Area. Could maybe be something to do with the currents and the wind??? (I'm not a climate scientist, I actually kinda suck at science but my father explained this to me when I was a kid and I asked why I couldn't swim by our house in Toronto but I could swim by my aunt's place in Kingston). Thank you for attending my TED Talk.

[@keljells]

amsayyy you’ve piqued my curiosity - what kind of nasty things live in the lakes? I’m from mass so not very familiar with the lakes.

[@allisonwilliams4536]

@@keljells one of the nastiest things we have in Lake Ontario is lampreys. They're an invasive species of eel. Rings of teeth, really gross looking. The American eel also lives in the lake. Some fish (trout, some species of salmon have been introduced). The usual water birds. It is the most polluted of the lakes though. I remember growing up that we'd joke about mutated fish living in the lake.

[@cassidycollin2387]

I live in Pickering, this case is NOT talked about anymore. Thank you for bringing awareness.

[@HaydeeNunez]

I’m sure you heard, but just in case you didn’t - Danelle Hallan said “DONT COME FOR ME” in her latest video and all of your subscribers immediately thought of you 😘🥰❤️

[@kristentrep5038]

Haydee I know I did! Lol

[@shuanh.6857]

I definitely did 😆

[@lynsirobertson3527]

Yes she immediately thought of you Steph!! I saw it lol

[@StephanieHarlowe]

Awwww!!! That’s my girl!

[@flanigan_a-go-go]

That would be a dream collab 🤗

[@easyenglishwithrachael1931]

As someone who almost drown in a pool and was a strong swimmer, I never underestimate the ability to something freak to occur esp when alcohol is involved

[@lalathekido]

But all six of them? And no evidence of the watercrafts or the boys? That's the part that seems unlikely to me. Like, if the bodies or the watercrafts had shown up, then yeah, maybe they got stupid drunk and did something dumb that resulted in their lives ending. But for no evidence to turn up, that seems awful crazy to me.

[@Bianca_Toeps]

@@lalathekido All six wouldn't even surprise me, if they're drunk and not thinking clearly, they all might have tried to save eachother.

[@lalathekido]

@@Bianca_Toeps But where are the bodies and the boats? If the bodies and the boats were found then that would be one thing. But where are the bodies and the boats?

[@eringrz6135]

wardenofmyheart maybe that guy was lucky enough to have a floatation device and not have to work so hard swimming. I’m sure there were a lot more people drunk on the Titanic that did or didn’t survive for various reasons.

[@carolynduval6905]

I live in Myrtle Beach. I was in the water one day..on my knees still on the sand and less than a foot of water. A small wave came in and knocked me over. I didn't know which way was up. It was super scary. I was barely in the water.

[@potat_ohs]

This case REEKS of a coverup. The investigator being bumped around and -- in my opinion -- being lied to throughout the entirety of the investigation makes my skin crawl. They're definitely covering up something that happened. Either some of the local police or the OPP were involved and decided to brush everything under the rug. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know what truly happened due to all of the secrecy and redacted information. A police force would only go this far to protect their own. A little theory I have and that a lot of other people in the comments seem to as well, is that the boys came across something that they shouldn't have. Something like the local police helping to smuggle drugs or help out known criminals in the area, as it was late at night and in an area with easy access to water (a known way to smuggle drugs is through late night boat trips) and there weren't going to be many people around. Then the police -- and whoever else were involved -- decided that it would be best to get rid of the boys so they wouldn't get caught by the OPP. They might have known the boys from around town and thought that they were going to be easy to get rid of. The police could have also taken the imitation Boston whaler and the water bike from the marina so they would have an explanation for the disappearances. I don't really have any other explanation for all of the redacted information, secrecy, and the PI getting the runaround. I really hope that it isn't true but it's one of the few theories that I find myself leaning towards.

[@Sojiny]

Or they could have just drowned in Lake Ontario. It was march and it was really cold

[@spideysense1847]

​@@Sojiny my thoughts exactly Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is most often the correct one

[@awuma]

@@spideysense1847 Agreed, but the fact that no bodies or parts of "unsinkable" craft appeared is strange (apart from the suspicious fuel tank). The "pedalo" is incongruous... until now, I thought it was a conventional pedal-boat, but the one pictured is only something one would use in warm summer weather, not when it's freezing cold. A powered Boston Whaler type of boat and a Pedalo make a strange combination, unless the Pedalo was used to tow the "whaler" outside the bay entrance lights so as to not make noise (presumably oars were not in the "Whaler"). I did see, some weeks or months later, police divers working in the vicinity of the channel entrance as I sailed my own boat there. Also, whatever happened at the marina didn't unduly wake up anybody (myself included, a couple of wharves over). Now, I should note that even if somebody woke up, they probably would not see anything unless they got dressed and went outside, because most boats were covered for the winter in translucent, not clearly transparent, plastic. Few boats in those days had topside ports (windows), and the superstructure windows would be behind the plastic covers.

[@spideysense1847]

@@awuma super weird case , I hope the families find them alive or at least get closure. Sadly It sounds like there wasn't enough done to investigate the case when it was fresh. Which is when you're most likely to find someone who's gone missing

[@doobat708]

I'm rolling my eyes so hard at the "quality" of this police investigation, that I'm sure you can hear it across the Atlantic.

[@megbee7423]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@sophiaantropova5874]

That's what the sound was! I couldn't understand

[@icantstopsparkling7450]

Sophia Antropova Oh good, I thought I was hearing things

[@jasonscarborough94]

Right, the officer that took the initial report's justification for not doing anything just reeks of "Ok this is bad, must cover ass"

[@confettikittyxo4824]

Meanwhile in the Durham Region? DRPS are still incompetent and still don't give a shit about the people! We call them "DERPS"

[@marcalexwatts]

When you didn't read the boys names in order of the picture it really caught me off guard😂

[@tiffanybullrich2582]

Me too 🤭

[@falconandthemoon]

Me too 🤔

[@tiffanybullrich2582]

@@monsteratreehouse 😂😂😂

[@ellechrista6067]

Marc Alex Watts She’s keeping you on your toes 😂

[@megbee7423]

@@monsteratreehouse 😂

[@Bbgotcakes]

I live a 10 minute walk from that marina and I have never heard of this case...my stomach twisted when I saw "Pickering". I couldn't believe it was the same Pickering I've lived in most of my life.

[@hardyquinn9442]

Me either. I looked it up online first to be sure because I just couldn't believe I had never heard about it.

[@mr.makedonija2627]

Where in pickering u guys live?

[@Bbgotcakes]

@@mr.makedonija2627 Liverpool!

[@bobbyprentice1320]

Same, can’t believe i’ve never heard of this before!

[@mr.makedonija2627]

@@Bbgotcakes nice. Im from westshore

[@claras1401]

As a Canadian who’s went to school to be in the judicial system, this type of police behaviour isn’t uncommon! Just look at how the Bernardo case was dealt with.

[@danielleelizaharpz]

My whole body shivers when I hear that name

[@iciajay6891]

I live in North Bay, ON. We def have a serial killer that targets young men. Because we are so northern, a lot of the mysterious deaths are attributed to exposure, but my gut and living here for 36 years, says it is a pattern that follows that of a serial killer.

[@melissablais6030]

Omg everything about that case pisses me off!

[@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425]

@@iciajay6891 can you expand on that at all?

[@MamaStyles]

My family member was invoved in that case and yes there were mistakes but they had to get him locked up....the laws are so lax here they couldnt risk it

[@KeithCabral420]

I lived right there,, grew up with all 6 of those boys.. The ball was dropped by the DRPS no question at all.. Maybe if they didn't wait 72 hrs before looking for them, this would have ended a little differently.. I find it hard to belive they can find 1 man, hiding in a crack in the wall, burried deep in the side of a mountain. BUT can't find 6 boys, a boat, water trike on a single body of water?.. I hate this case, It haunts me every year. I 🙏 pray, 1 day the families can finally find some closer.

[@halo2d]

Because they do not want to find them. It's that simple sadly

[@girlsrule722]

Truly Heartbreaking. Something horrible happened. My Heart goes out to these boys Family and friends. God Bless them all

[@davudgoldberg747]

That’s because they’re not in the lake I bet they took the boat up the Niagara river

[@jamesharen8607]

So with your unique perspective of having lived there and grown up with them...what your take on what realy happened and how? What were the rumors going around at the time? Just curious?

[@isaiahmarkdoug]

That because all the rejects end up with DRPS. What a joke of a police force.

[@therealavawelch]

KZbinrs like Stephanie, Christina Randall, Bailey sarian, Kendall Rae, Brittney Vaughn and Loey (I can't remember her lastname I just know I adore her) whenever they all do a story, I feel like they're my friend that's sitting beside me telling me a story. They treat they're subscribers just like they're friends and I personally appreciate that and it makes me keep coming back to more episodes.

[@jonathanbundrick4712]

If you haven't yet, you should Check out Eleanor Nealle and Danielle Kirsty

[@justkim9827]

Danielle Hallan is excellent too. She's super thorough!

[@daniellehall4124]

Yes Kendall Rae, Christina R, Stephanie H are my favs and Danielle Kirsty is really good too.

[@larrianbattle8991]

@@justkim9827 I second this!!

[@ashleymiller1625]

Check out Mr.Ballen too!

[@momentsofmaykin]

The pants seems suspicious. I completely believe that those were his pants.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

In 2018 they did DNA testing. Said there was no match www.durhamregion.com/news-story/9097857-dna-testing-yields-no-new-clues-to-fate-of-pickering-s-lost-boys/

[@momentsofmaykin]

It's just a personal conspiracy but I think they lost the original evidence box and had to cover with a different one

[@neuralmute]

Anything that happened involving Hamilton General Hospital can't be trusted. I can't go into detail here due to legal issues involving family, but they are possibly the least reliable medical institution in the entire GTA. They lose things, they botch things, and they contaminate things. Once the evidence was sent there, the evidence is no longer to be trusted.

[@MoonbeamStarlaSilver]

Yeah I agree. They specifically said, "Red Levis." Ending up where they did with bones and a belt. I don't think it's an unrelated coincidence. Seeing the loved ones in their grief is so upsetting. I hope someday they get the answers to what happened to their boys.

[@LizG117]

i do too, this sounds like a perfect example of the Smiley Face murderer.

[@avaearles5609]

So Canadian here that has lived in both pickering and Niagara Falls. The rumour that I heard was that one of the guards at the nuclear power plant shot them as they were trying to climb over a fence and it was being hidden by the police. The nuclear power plant is less than a 10 minute walk Al on the secluded walkway from the marina. This pathway is a paved nature walk that connects all of the major cities in Durham region that border Lake Ontario. Walking along it brings you very close and at times within feet of the fence lining the perimeter of the nuclear power plant. On this fence they have sigs that cautioned that any trespassers will be shot on sight.

[@StephanieHarlowe]

WOW! That is crazy!

[@avaearles5609]

Also, anyone who is working with childern, seniors or those with disabilities have to go through vulnerable sector screening ( vss) which is like a criminal record check but is way more in depth. It includes all convictions, arrests, allegations or suspicions that have been levied against you. In order to pass it you cannot have violent crimes on your record or have, convictions or allegations of crimes against a vulnerable populations. You can pass a VSS with a criminal record but it also allows your employer to see your entire criminal record.

[@joannajamerson35]

OMG... They should fess up and tell the familes

[@babydolI]

they’ve also closed down the nuclear plant recently interesting enough

[@lalathekido]

If there are signs warning of this being your fate should you trespass I don't know why they'd cover it up. I also don't know why, if one of them got shot, the other five continued on their path long enough to also be shot, unless they were really just THAT drunk.

[@tribeofnan888]

I have have lived for 50 yrs on the shores of Frenchmans Bay in Pickering. I remember this story very much and think of these boys frequently. 🇨🇦🙏🏻

[@khanhfident]

The Shawn Mendes reference, LOL. I totally was not expecting that!

[@isthisthekrustykrab4558]

When?

[@khanhfident]

@@isthisthekrustykrab4558 In the beginning when she talks about the geography of the area!

[@BitterSweetBarb]

I never even knew he is Canadian and only know that he is a musician from my 10-year-old granddaughter, lol...

[@quicksilverlacey]

@@BitterSweetBarb well you sound like a nice grandmother, a good listener lol

[@diytumblrbeauty]

Khanh Nguyen I laughed out loud

[@BeezEaze]

Thank you for covering this case. As a Canadian it’s always bothered me that these six boys have just vanished off the face of the earth. I can’t imagine the grief these families having gone so long without any closure. I truly believe someone somewhere knows something.

[@StephanieHarlowe]

I think you're right, someone knows something

[@BeezEaze]

Stephanie Harlowe My family lives in this area and I’ve visited many times in 27 years. I’ve grown up hearing stories about police misconduct, brutality and corruption within the force regarding the Durham regional PD. There’s a place on Lake Ontario about 45 or so minutes drive away from Frenchman’s Bay marina called Cherry beach Express/Clarke Beach Park that was largely believed to be a place for police to brutally beat suspected perps. Some people have written it off as an urban legend, but my Uncle, God parents and even my 70 year old Toronto-born Mother have shared stories with me many of which happened in the late 70’s- mid 80’s. “There is at least one famous case. A homeless man named Thomas Kerr accused several police officers of taking him to Cherry Beach and beating him, in 1996. In 2003, he settled with Toronto Police for a reported $750,000.” Source: torontoist.com/2012/10/toronto-urban-legends-cherry-beach-express/ I’m not saying that this is related, or has anything to do with the missing boys but I just want to highlight the potential corruption and secrecy that the PD’s in Toronto regions seem to hold. I believe the Police has either completely failed to conduct a proper investigation, that they know more than they’re saying or that they’re involved in some way and have facilitated a coverup. Whatever happened, it’s time for some answers. Thank you again for another great video. 💛

[@cwarpaint2763]

@@BeezEaze thank you for additional info. It describes the bigger picture.

[@nicolegriffiths8509]

​@@BeezEaze couldn't agree with you more! And as a fellow Ontario resident. Lots of Police Corruption. Especially back in that time.

[@amandachristine9286]

It seems to me, with the wide lack of knowledge about this case (even to locals), could items and belongings have washed ashore and no one connected them to this case? It was just thrown in the trash by the finders?

[@kendrahouck984]

This is something I wonder too. The case got very little media coverage... I know that I don't really take a second glance at random things like shoes or t shirts in places, I usually assume they were simply lost...

[@carolynduval6905]

I can't believe more people didn't comment. That makes so much sense. The case didn't get publicity..so if anything washed up or was seen..it probably just got thrown out.

[@TheIndigo1child]

@@carolynduval6905 yea especially if it was a year or two after the incident. If they dropped to the bottom due to cold water temps any items washed ashore would be months and months later if at all.

[@AndiLawson27]

When I realized I already knew about this case I immediately went to turn the video off, then stopped. I've been proven wrong over and over, everytime I think I know a case well Stephanie ALWAYS teaches me so much more!

[@TK-ib7rm]

Same! Her investigation skills are top notch!

[@SassyShell13]

Same!! 😊💓

[@seekingenlightenment2380]

This sounds like a sloppy job or a cover-up... Or both. "Allegedly"

[@StephanieHarlowe]

Seeking Enlightenment allegedly 😂

[@maggiekarabel123]

Stephanie Harlowe Hear me out! Okay those boys were together that night UNTIL there were only three at the marina. Two of them might have had something to do with this guy whose record was expunged. What if he only meant to cause ill harm to those two BUT because there were six, three got away. He or they weren’t prepared for six. They went to the marina to get the hell out of dodge and sank in the boat the cops wouldn’t look at. And why is this covered up? How bad does it look that they let this dude no longer have a criminal record if this is all true?

[@kerrbear1980]

This story has haunted me since i was 14 in 1995. Im in neighbouring Scarborough and so many were affected by this but the media completely forgot about them.

[@thecardbunker801]

The police covered this whole shit up calls were made 100%. No way u can just forget and put it behind you. That's 6 families. 6 young teen lives.

[@shakeyras_beauty]

@@thecardbunker801 I remember seeing the video of them and then it was erased from KZbin

[@DreadPirateRae]

I'm pregnant, can't leave the house, can't sleep, but there's always Stephanie Harlowe.

[@emilywiltshire3175]

awww bless you, not easy right not especially when pregnant with all this to worry about!! :( thinking of you

[@mizztifferz2480]

Me too. Only way im getting through the madness

[@kathleenthequeen2993]

May you and baby stay safe 🙏🏼

[@LilMelons222]

When are you due? I'm due in September

[@DreadPirateRae]

@@LilMelons222 July 21st. I'm hoping things will be better by then but... we'll see.

[@tara-leeolli9471]

I went to high school with some of these guys. It is forever mind boggling that nothing has been found in all this time 😔

[@s6m349]

Probably would have been found if the authorities did their job

[@shakeyraware1563]

I’m sorry

[@dwightcohoon1885]

Is it true the school counselor was into drug stuff

[@blandishblaze]

I’ve been fishing Lake Erie and Ontario for years. I’ve lost 6 close friends to these lakes, they are nothing to play with. Many people have went into these lakes never to be heard of again, no sign of them, just gone.

[@SilverSwag56]

Seriously?

[@carolynduval6905]

I would move.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

@@SilverSwag56 Yes, especially Erie. There’s a good video by Ask a Mortician that talks about just how deadly Lake Erie is

[@healthycanvas9691]

And lake lanier

[@ninny90285]

​@@carolynduval6905 or just not go out in the water, or make sure you're being super safe.

[@Leighkae]

I’m from Pickering and was friends with a couple these boys. Robbie was my first boyfriend:) I still have dreams of him coming home. Even after all this time so many are still haunted by what happened. There’s never been any closure. It’s painful.

[@jennifermorton9234]

Karen Leigh that’s crazy! Howwww does 6 boys vanish without a trace?!

[@whatdoyoulivefor735]

You have my sincerest condolences. That must be hard to have popping up in your mind over the years.

[@Leighkae]

Let'sMakeBeats Its not an easy thing to live with. I just can’t imagine how their families have carried this pain for so long. Having children of my own now, I know I couldn’t bear it. I think about them all the time.

[@Leighkae]

Jennifer Morton Thats what we would all like to know Jennifer.

[@extractionoflight9478]

I'm sorry for your loss 😞

[@Hollyweeds]

The creepy thing about the Great lakes is that their temperature is perfect for preserving bodies. They don't really decompose because the water is so cold. Many very old shipwrecks still have intact bodies on board. So I do think it is harder to find bodies of people that have drowned in the Great Lakes, as they don't decompose and float up as usual.

[@Spooky_Dook]

🤔Interesting.

[@Pollylu5]

That's uh, terrifying:) I mean I know she mentioned that in the video but the way you phrased it gave me the heebie jeebies

[@jesseventura7598]

@Nyree Harris The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot.

[@ninny90285]

I've heard this, but I've also heard if you want to get rid of a body, the Great Lakes are perfect because they do not float up to the top due to cold times

[@AMamaBearsMission]

I will NEVER forget this day. I was there. My brother knew them so we went to see if we could help and let me tell you, I have never seen anyone fight so hard, work so hard to find their loved ones. Search parties every single day, they even called in a psychic! They had a base of operations at the Boyle's residence and I swear the whole fucking town was there trying to help. I was 21 yrs old at the time staying with my dad and baby brother's for a while when this happened. My heart still breaks for the families and what those boys endured. I have my own theory but pray one day they will all get justice and peace for their families. Thank u so much for keeping them alive. As long as we keep talking about them, one day the truth WILL COME OUT!!

[@mikaylajayne5904]

I would love to hear your theory, if you could share it?

[@AMamaBearsMission]

@@mikaylajayne5904 I am late for an appointment but promise to answer your question as soon as I can. Thank you so much for replying angel. Chat soon 🙏💖😇 God be with these angels and their loved ones. Please bring them home.🙏😇💖💜

[@hardyquinn9442]

Please share❤

[@gabrielatheodorescu688]

@@AMamaBearsMission and you never answered back

[@AMamaBearsMission]

@@gabrielatheodorescu688 OMG I am so so sorry guys. I am in school and have a special needs son and have just a crazy busy life. Please forgive me. I believe, and this is just my opinion, that they may have been taken by either pirates or sex traffickers or something like that. Pirates on the waters is a real problem and they rob vessels then kill the witnesses. This is more so on ocean waters but it does happen on other bodies of water.The sex trafficking I thought was more likely but after hearing of the police finding a body, I figured they either fought back or it was pirates. The fact that the body was found where it was makes me lean more towards sex traffickers since not all bodies were found. I also believe the police were aware of something because they wouldn't investigate certain things, like the pants that were found. There was just too many mistakes and negligence and cover ups. Again, this is just my opinion. I am a survivor of sex trafficking so I know a lot on this subject. I still pray for these angels and their families and so happy that they have never given up. There is always hope! God bless the families, all of you, please stay safe and be well. Much love xxx

[@RosaLee587]

We're on Day 4 of South Africa's State of Disaster 21 day mandatory home lockdown. My Stephanie Harlowe fix has arrived. Thank you♡ Stay home and flatten the curve everyone. Be safe!

[@suz3787]

fellow south african here! thank god for stephanie's videos to keep us sane. hope you and your loved ones are taking care x

[@Vtarotttt]

Prava Singh hello im from south africa too, the western cape! Im so glad that a fellow south african is also a harlowe subscriber

[@kristentrep5038]

I’m in NY, and we’ve been pretty much told to stay at home now for almost 2 weeks.. it looks like it will most likely be a few more.. if this virus doesn’t get us, our families just might! Lol we are all pretty pent up, and feeling cranky!

[@rayross997]

Hang in there, we will get through this, take care everyone.

[@RosaLee587]

@@suz3787 Joburg here! Ptesident address 7.30pm. Officially announced. Alex, like Khayalitsha, has a positive here, so its a rough ride ahead. Stephanie Harlow is a great relief during our home stay. Be safe xxx

[@nucleairecreations8884]

Finally, someone who's giving this case some attention!!! Thru all these years this case got so very little publicity...even locally...really sad...!

[@StephanieHarlowe]

I agree

[@SilverSwag56]

That because these boys met with foul play, I'm certain of it. Thats why miraculously no one wants to investigate this

[@candygram2539]

I've noticed since Stephanie reported on this, A LOT more KZbinrs are as well which is good. Believe me though; they AIN'T NO STEPHANIE HARLOWE! I live close to this area. This blows my mind! So sad and such a mystery.

[@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507]

I grew up in Pickering right near Frenchman's bay and know the area well .. swam in the lake during many summers .. thank you so much for raising attention to this tragic mystery for the 6 lost boys !! .. always thought it was crazy no trace of the boys or the boats were found .. thank you again !

[@mr.makedonija2627]

Me 2. What street??

[@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507]

@@mr.makedonija2627 Vistula Dr 😎

[@mr.makedonija2627]

@@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 me 2 lol

[@mr.makedonija2627]

@@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 924 Vistula Dr.

[@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507]

@@mr.makedonija2627 oh wow ... 980 for me

[@briannepage6290]

I’m hung up on the pants found on the body that was “definitely not” one of the boys. The initial investigator said they were Levi’s and knew the waist and inseam. That to me says they were definitely Levi jeans he found...after all, the classic Levi’s tag on the back displays these measurements. They wouldn’t have to be handled much at all to know this info. Such a frustrating case this is!

[@indyrawr1756]

And if it's not him, who the heck is it? It would have had to been a fairly recent death to have the pants in tact and it wasn't just clothes, it was bone.

[@annsearle9275]

I think they were drunk , goofing around ,maybe running in to each other and they capsized and drowned , the reason it'd not been solved is the police cocked it up from the get go , the first officer didn't write the initial statement for the first few days , the police the hospital and Corina sll lost things , huge negligence from initial còntact

[@robbbyleerusby]

there’s no way someone would mistake levi jeans for mesh/track pant like pants. Levi’s have huge tags that say the make of the pants so there’s no way someone would have written down the make of the pants and size without seeing it. ugh this makes me so sad.

[@Ellen-hs7zb]

In some areas of the US jeans are generically referred to as Levi's, regardless of brand.

[@Mz-wv9lc]

Right and the rivets are etched with the Levis brand name

[@allisonmichelle4419]

The files wouldn’t have been redacted if there wasn’t something to hide or someone to protect.

[@petersdotter1]

Actually, it is the proper procedure to protect the identity of persons not convicted of a crime. The former US prez was known as "Individual One" in many criminal investigations because he is not charged with a crime, yet.

[@superthunder81]

It will be over a hundred years before these files could ever be released. Redaction only lasts so long. It is beyond sad. I hope that if any of them survived someday they come forward

[@glynniswalker6591]

in my experience the Canadian are totally corrupt. After what happened to my mother - I wrote a book about it - Stealing Joy about it and I am just disgusted with them. What happened to her was terrible. Thank god for the FBI

[@deniece0821]

Omg, I had forgotten about this until now! My husband and I had taken our kids to Niagara Falls a month after this happened. We are from Ohio but have always stayed on the Canadian side while vacationing there. (It's honestly much nicer and cleaner. 🤷) We went further into Toronto and Ontario to show the kids around. I was pregnant with our third child at the time and wasn't feeling well. I ended up staying behind at the hotel while my husband took our two kids out sightseeing. I vividly remember going out to the pool to relax and a lady struck up a conversation with me. She mentioned the missing teens and was related to one of them by marriage. (I believe she said it was her husband's nephew that was one of the boys missing. I don't remember which one, though.) There were several of us at the hotel talking about it and I remember how sad and baffling it was. At the time everyone was dumbfounded because it just seemed as if the boys vanished into thin air. Wow, 26 years ago and still nothing.😔I hate to say it but it honestly sounds like a nefarious cover-up.

[@autumn5725]

So blessed that in this upside down world right now where nothing is normal, we are still able to have our constant doze of Stephanie Harlowe mystery Mondays to keep us going! Love from Taiwan💕

[@alyssacg8938]

jeanny liu I agree ♥️

[@krisd6811]

❤ from Texas

[@nancyharris5530]

What a confusing case! I am mystified as to how 6 people could go missing without a trace.

[@lalathekido]

SAME. I think I could believe maybe up to 3 of them going missing without a trace. MAYBE. But SIX people, go missing without a trace? Seems like a bit much to me.

[@CDNHoneybee]

@@lalathekido I live a few hours from Pickering and myself and others have long suspected these 6 boys were kidnapped via a pediophile/sex trafficking ring (sadly more common in Canada and the states and worldwide than you think). Or these boys were taken in a satanic ritual or they witnessed a crime and they were killed and corrupt police/free masons covered it up. You’d be amazed how accurate these strong suspicions are. My heart breaks for the families.

[@emiliag3141]

@@CDNHoneybee really? wow that is so devastating and sad

[@andreaw4602]

I live in Ontario and I am only just learning of this case. That just seems so strange to me. 6 boys going missing at the same time is a huge deal!

[@Nikki38]

I don't think it was I the media much i have never heard of it either. So sad. Families need answers

[@samtannahill8808]

Same

[@bloodyneptune]

Yeah, I live just over an hour away and I'm just learning about it

[@lydiakach]

The way you said “shenanigans” makes me very happy

[@emilywiltshire3175]

hahaha yeah she says it a lot, love it makes me giggle lol

[@Maaarrina]

Same lmao

[@countrycrossstitcher3573]

I know I heard of a situation where a guy went missing and he was searched for and not found and it was 30-40 years later that a young guy was at a boat ramp and happened to see a car submerged quite close to the boat ramp and they found the guys remains in it, he’d swerved and run into the water that night he went missing. So it’s amazing how people can go missing for so long even being searched for when they end up being mere meters from where people are all the time.

[@lauracoleman8114]

That sounds similar to one I seen recently. It was someone on google maps that seen what looked like a car in a man made lake behind a subdivision. It turned out to be a missing man from 20 plus years earlier. Before all the construction is was a back road and they think due to bad weather he swerved and ended up in the lake. He was only about 10ft below the surface all this time. Also recently a scuba diver I follow named Jared (Adventures with purpose) pulled a car from his local river and it turned to out to have the remains from a 12yr old unsolved missing person. The family assumed he left the country and started over in Amsterdam (he had mental issues). Its been so scary to see just how many cars/trucks are dumped in rivers etc. Apparently alot are from insurance scams but there is the few that get there for other reasons.

[@cakelady8523]

Im my home town there was a young man who was missing for well over a year. No one knew where he was. Well last spring a co worker of mine went fishing. When he turned his sonar on. He had found something right under his boat. That was in front of the dock. Well it wad the missing young man. Im not sure how he ended up there. But he was right there the whole time

[@julianakleijn9254]

yeah there was a story about a lady that that happened to too

[@fateugly]

The same thing happened around 1970 outside Meridian, Mississippi. A high school boy went missing. There was a reservoir there. Decades later the water was low and his car was found with him inside.

[@isabellind1292]

@@fateugly Like the two S. Dakota teen girls who in 1971 borrowed one of their dads' car's to go to a party and were never seen again until 40 yrs later when their car was discovered submerged in a creek on the side of the road they'd been traveling on. At least one parent died not knowing what ever happened to their beloved daughter.

[@mrs_maverick1121]

I don't comprehend how 6 nearly full grown guys can just vanish... there's something more here for sure!

[@hatachikoi-chickasawnation6711]

The key is in those redactions.

[@joannajamerson35]

We all know how reliable "redactions " are. #muellerreport

[@hatachikoi-chickasawnation6711]

@@joannajamerson35 Yep!

[@miadavis4837]

Great job on this case Stephanie! I’m surprised that I’d never heard of it before. I'm American but I've lived in South Korea for two years and this case reminds me of one of Korea's most famous unsolved cases. It's called the 개구리소년(Frog Boys) case. I'm not 100 percent on all the details but the basics of the case are that in 1991 in a small-ish village in Daegu, South Korea, a group of 5 young boys went out to a nearby mountain to catch frogs. The boys never came home. There were many searches done for them but they never found them. About 10 years later someone found their bodies buried in a mass grave and called police. The police first told the parents that the kids died of natural causes but obviously no one was buying that so the parents and the public demanded a full investigation. Eventually the police admitted that the kids died from blunt force trauma. A lot of people believe that this is a cover up and the military had something to do with the boys’ murders. When you started mentioning the specifics of the Lost Boys case my immediate reaction was that this was a case of the boys being in the wrong place at the wrong time and maybe witnessing some drug running or something like that. It’s possible that the police were involved in the drug running and there is some sort of cover up but it’s also possible that they were just painfully incompetent. Either way I think that media attention and public pressure might be the only way to get answers here. In Korea the Frog Boys case is super famous, there have even been movies and songs about it, and public pressure forced at least somewhat of a reinvestigation so I hope that this case can gain some attention to force the Canadian police to reinvestigate as well. It seems like the perfect case for one of those ID Discovery limited series or a podcast like Serial.

[@joannajamerson35]

Agreed.

[@nbell3030]

My thoughts, too.

[@Trunksette]

Know any good videos on this frog boys case? I'm very interested now.

[@necessarygood8591]

I believe one of the frog boys might have been shot in the face with buckshot or they used the butt of a rifle to kill them all.....something like that

[@ct92404]

I never heard about this, but it's extremely bizarre! Something is very suspicious and sinister about how the police handled it, and reports being redacted and "lost." Why in the world would reports on a missing person case be redacted??

[@thegrimlooper]

i appreciate how in-depth you go. Also, how respectful and intelligent you are. Best content.

[@katietye3673]

I wonder if the boys somehow got out onto the lake and stumbled upon some illegal activity, possibly by police? They could have been killed or thrown overboard by someone who knew how to cover their tracks..or knew what police would look for. Idk...this is such a mysterious case. I hope the families get closure someday.

[@meganlangreck2488]

They either saw something as witnesses, or were recruited into something. I really want to believe the sightings of some of them alive, but just as kids can be recruited into criminal activities, kids can probably also be coerced into giving misleading statements.

[@erinedwards2603]

The proximity to the nuclear plant is making me think of the series ‘Dark’

[@lilbabyangel125]

I love that stephanie covers canadian stories! Even the small ones - like holly ellsworth

[@thecardbunker801]

This story aint small it's da biggest Canadian mystery

[@Kellybergman7529]

Thank you for the constant stream of content while we are home and needing distraction 🖤🖤

[@StephanieHarlowe]

Any time!

[@INSHERRYSOPINION]

It sounds to me like a corrupt police force protecting the drug dealers. I believe these boys saw something they shouldn’t have and paid with there lives. Unfortunately we may never get the truth. I love your voice you are so easy to listen to so entertaining.

[@waynegraham7611]

I think your right !

[@Courtenay-Dawn]

I absolutely agree with this theory.

[@hollyb7142]

Exactly what I think too. 👍 There are many cops and politicians in the pockets of big drug rings.

[@INSHERRYSOPINION]

Maybe I should look at this case through my psychic abilities.

[@yearight7956]

This issue is Lake Ontario can bring you to US or CA. So these boys may of very been well been killed by drug dealers….or they couldve simply died due to an accident, ran into a serial killer, got taken by sex traffickers or literally ANYTHING. Back to my original point about Lake Ontario being a body of water between northern US and CA; there are a bunch of different police departments and LE agencies that have jurisdictions in certain areas around the lake as well as a couple who patrol the lake itself. It’s very hard to keep a case from going cold when they aren’t sure what crime happened, if any, or where the crime/accident happened. It’s not only between different jurisdictions in once country but two, adding to the difficulty of coordinating an effort via a task force with a federal agency and a bunch of surrounding cities/towns/states (provinces in Canada) departments.

[@Kelly-jn4cp]

I'm so impressed you did a fantastic job explaining Canadian geography and legal/police details. Bravo.

[@neuralmute]

Okay, just saying that Hamilton General Hospital is *NOT* the most reliable medical institution in the GTA by a long shot. I can't go into details due to legal issues, but if they were storing evidence, that evidence could easily be contaminated and/or lost!

[@bettyb1313]

These young men could be any of our son's brothers or grandchildren... I really hope and pray the families find peace! I got lost on lake Erie with my big sister on a water bike, the coastguard had to come rescue us. The weather was calm but we couldn't peddle back we we're 6 & 9 years old... Just what if police or a friend or family of someone official is involved in the death oof these young men...

[@eversnajera]

Probably the RCPM, the same theory is set forth for many of Canada’s missing and murdered indigenous peoples epidemic. Sloppy investigation and blocking of families doing their own searching. It’s a disgrace. Eerie how many horrifying acts in a country that is perceived to be incredibly secure and peaceful. Literally the story of every sociopath .

[@neuralmute]

@@eversnajera That's HOW they get away with it. Most of us are pretty decent, law abiding people who wouldn't hurt anyone off the hockey rink. And we like to keep things quiet and peaceful. It's just those few bad ones are *really* bad.

[@shanna2.2.2]

A Round Orifice in Nothingness “sons, brothers, or grandchildren.” I’m guessing you knew what they meant though 🤔

[@quicksilverlacey]

@A Round Orifice in Nothingness I wasn't supervised during the day in the 90s as a young child, just come home for lunch when you're hungry & then at bed time. Also my mom just told me earlier that I didn't even have a car seat when I was younger. I was born in 91 so it was def a different more relaxed style parenting than is common now. With less laws & regulations & stuff too.

[@tamale4864]

Why would y’all be alone on a waterbike or in a lake period at 6 and 9!? 🤯

[@specialk2628]

I think they are in the lake anchored down, but do believe the bones and jeans is probably one of the boys. Great story Stephanie, so many turns on this case... could be any one of those scenarios.

[@ZombixMix]

The police _HAS to_ know more, I just don't understand why they are hiding it

[@danimotherofchickens479]

Emma they were probably involved

[@ZombixMix]

@@danimotherofchickens479 that's what I'm thinking!

[@ChrisTina-jj2ie]

Or an investigation deeper into their disappearance would uncover something else!

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

mistakes and incompetence- nothing new.

[@confettikittyxo4824]

Not sure if malice or just lazy tbh. Durham Regional Police are the most incompetent police force in the GTR. Fast to respond and quick to do literally nothing. The only thing they're good for is intimidation when someone is harassing you and won't stop. There is a reason we in the region refer to them as "DERPS" (DRPS Durham Regional Police Service)

[@cady3401]

Stephanie: He claimed that he didn’t know where the drugs came from. I mean, what do you expect him to say, “yeah that’s all my coke” ... but i used to do the same thing back in high school Me: Ohhhhh shit what a casual way to drop a bomb! Okay steph, i see you and your rebel teenage self! Stephanie: ...with cigarettes Me: oh... right. Of course. I knew that’s where you were going all along.

[@quicksilverlacey]

Same lol I was like damn just dropping a bomb on us then oh lol yeah okay obviously

[@Shayna11NM]

HAHAHA! Same here!

[@hellboygrim666]

Yo I thought the exact same thing. Lmaooooo shes like I used to use the same technique of hiding my coke 😂😂😂👌 I mean cigarettes lol. I'm like sureeee it was cigs haha

[@viddeliten]

I SO thought the same thing! ❤️

[@Adrian-zd4cs]

Same... 😏🤣👍

[@rhondalee133]

I’m Canadian and I love that you cover Canadian content . I love how you go really in-depth with these cases . Keep up the great work. I think they met with foul play .

[@TOGirl75]

I've lived in Toronto my entire life and have never heard of this case before....that should say something right there - some sort of cover up for sure.

[@andreaw4602]

Same! This would normally be a massive case with 6 boys going missing. Unbelievable.

[@Haxxorious]

Same im from near kingston and just heard this recently. The lack of attention to this is concerning

[@ellaella5537]

Yeah, this should have been on the news all over Canada. It makes no sense

[@AT-qd2cv]

It’s worrying that so many people in law enforcement went to such lengths to disappear evidence and videos, and essentially cover up this case

[@SilverSwag56]

Word

[@samtannahill8808]

It sure is, Steve.

[@JaneDoe-vi5yc]

This case needs to be re-opened. Someone in the police organization should be able to get a hold of the non-redacted files and they need to leak the info. These loved ones deserve to know what happened.

[@caffeinated_mom7388]

Canadian here 🙋🏻‍♀️ We definitely have a flawed judicial systems here with some questionable practices. Just looks at Karla’s sweetheart deal. That’s still a sore spot here.

[@joannajamerson35]

The United State isn't much better at all.

[@littlejimmy2825]

oh ya for sure, she's waking free right now like nothing ever happened

[@HoneyBee4796]

It's so bizarre that six... SIX people can go missing all at once and just never be found. I remember when I was younger I loved walking in the woods behind my family cottage but didn't want to go alone in case something would happen. I'd always go with someone so there would be two of us. Unfortunately it didn't matter how many of those boys were together, they still just completely vanished. It's so sad, and the circumstances and following investigation is so suspect..

[@gizmo8361]

When I was a child my family sailed Lake Ontario frequently. Once my father participated in a boat race from Oshawa to Rochester and back and a storm blew up, so bad with very high winds and waves that a sailor fell overboard and was lost. Like this story very tragic.

[@MelCarter000]

I swear Stephanie Harlowe ALWAYS comes through when this girl needs her the most!

[@megbee7423]

Or a boy.... 😉

[@danielleelizaharpz]

When I know how freakin cold it gets here and how cold the water would have been in March .. they easily could have died in that water and so quickly. The lakes in my town still have ice on them and I'm not far away. I mean .. I keep thinking what if they ran out all drunk and decided to like jump in the water ... and the boats were like stolen or something.. not even related .. I have no idea.. all I know is it's the most confusing case. The boats vanishing as well as them is just as mysterious... the crappy way they searched ( or lack there of ) is frustrating me to my core. As someone who's in ontario Canada it baffles me and it hurts cause 6 families lives will always remain upside down.. with no closure.

[@wyldflwr]

When police reports are SO redacted that it's unreadable...something is definitely up. They stumbled into something that got them in a situation they couldn't get out of... May the families get the answers they deserve & are owed. I don't believe in "closure" but I do believe in being at peace.❤🙏❤

[@holmesla0319]

Sometimes I get the feeling that it isn't necessarily that the police are involved in the cover-up because they were involved in the crime or protecting someone who committed the crime but rather it is a cover up of the total lack of professionalism put forth by the police because they were lazy and negligent. It strikes me that something horrible happened to these boys and the police botched the investigation so badly they don't want to admit their failure. They will continue to deny, redact, and alter evidence or facts to confuse the case even more. I feel we see this so often and it makes me so sad for the families who just want to know what happened to their loved ones.

[@ifloetic]

agreed

[@cocolime6496]

Either one is just as likely. In situations I tend to err on the side of stupidity over maliciousness. Stupidity is much more rampant and its level of harm is often underestimated.

[@smexipenguin]

holmesla0319 I entirely agree with this, a lot of these crimes that scream cover up don’t seem like elaborate, well planned conspiracies, they sound like negligent idiots trying to save their own skin even when lives are at stake.

[@TheStar798]

Exactly! Well said @Holmesla0319 👏

[@Megz1794]

holmesla0319 or something else happened to the 6 boys that we don’t know about.

[@katherineconroy6197]

The sheer amount of quality content you create is amazing and I'm always incredibly interested in every case you cover. Absolutely one of my all time favorite content creators💜

[@StephanieHarlowe]

❤️❤️❤️

[@julianakleijn9254]

I'm pretty sure it's because drugs were involved. when you mess with stuff like that law enforcement writes you off. it's sad but it's TRUE and it's just one of those things where if u risk going down that path, just know that's most likely what's going to happen

[@loriblue7768]

Here in England I find it unfathomable that this was not world wide news. 6 much loved boys went missing without trace and this is the first I’ve heard of it. I don’t know how those incompetents who pass for police can look themselves in the mirror. The low profile and lack of action with this tragedy is absolutely on their sketchy shoulders!

[@awuma]

I would be cautious about "well-loved", since it took a whole day before two girlfriends reported them missing. However, the community certainly then did get involved in the search, and continued for a long time.

[@Ok0707]

@@awuma The two GFs reported their BFs missing just hours after they left the party. The private investigator clarified that on the Unfound podcast last year. These guys were pretty social in the Durham area and had plenty of friends. I'd say they were pretty "well loved" even if some of them had a bit of a rough background

[@emily04iv]

"That's suspish" - Bailey Sarian.

[@rpoo8]

I hear her theme song and aqua tofana

[@dejavoodu521]

🎶Shanna Sha Shanna Sha Shanna Sha Sha Shanna Shaaaaaaaaw! 🎶 That's my poor adaptation of spelling out Bailey's theme song.

[@MylingCyrus]

@Corona Sha Na shaaaaa Sha Na shaaaaaa

[@pennypineapples5511]

i will now sing you the song of my people: SHA NA SHA SHA NA SHA.........

[@GenXfrom75]

DEFINITELY SUSPISH!

[@Agentscrange333]

Completely believe those remains are his.

[@ironsnowflake1076]

Me too....hard to misidentify Levis...what I don't understand is the cover-up...was it *just* to quell any accusations of mishandling of the case, hmmmmm...

[@meganw.4457]

I have a feeling they were too. The tunnel vision of assuming the boys all died in Lake Ontario...I mean, maybe the boys were taken to a remote location by drug runners and executed, then dumped in various places? Not saying that's exactly what happened, but the possibilities are wide. Sometimes I think departments just want to wash their hands of cases that they think will take too much time and money to look into. Politics.

[@neuralmute]

@@meganw.4457 The thing is that there's so much drug running and dirty politics going on in the Oshawa area, and Pickering's right there... Everyone in the GTA calls the area the "Dirty 'Shwa", and has for years. Even 30 years ago, when my one pal's dad was a Scarborough cop, you didn't mess around out there.

[@holmesla0319]

Found this article when doing my own research. 😞 www.thespec.com/news-story/9097857-dna-testing-yields-no-new-clues-to-fate-of-pickering-s-lost-boys/

[@neuralmute]

@@holmesla0319 That's sad stuff. I'm convinced that both sets of remains found in that dam belonged to two of the boys. It gets into tricky territory, because at the time, the dam was owned by the Provincial government; Ontario Hydro to be precise, and it uses the energy of the Niagara River on its way over the falls to supply power to a large part of the province that isn't supplied by the power plants in Pickering. I have no idea if all this is somehow related to the government itself, but it's an interesting coincidence, and it may have something to do with why all the documentation was such a mess. Around that time, Ontario Premier Mike Harris was attempting to privatise our electricity, and bureaucratic snafus and red tape were plentiful. If information and documents have gone astray then it could be standard issue government ineptitude, as exists everywhere, or it could be something else. Who knows?

[@indyrawr1756]

I don't know how SIX boys didn't garner more attention or more thorough, careful investigation. So sad.

[@adammsbarry]

Lake Ontario can turn on you in seconds. Calm water will become "oh fuck" water very quickly

[@sarahfulcher7836]

Lol

[@lynnette7869]

Is Lake Ontario cold to the point bodies dont surface?

[@atme365]

@@lynnette7869 ontario can still be very cold in March, in 1995 probably, but I can't say for certain

[@skyline_decay]

It’s so sad they’ve never been found :( This reminds me of when my uncle went missing on vancouver island. He has dementia and was out of his care home at a friends home for his birthday and wandered off into the forest. They got the cops with search dogs and the RCMP to search for him right away until it got dark, and then brought in helicopters and 33 search teams the next morning but couldn’t find him until 2 pm, he was 2 acres over in a neighbours yard. We were so relieved they found him but because of his dementia no one knows where he was or what happened over those many hours he was missing 😟 and the scary thing was their yard bordered thick forest which was what they were searching in mostly. It was a stressful time and kind of spooky 😟

[@MamaStyles]

I live in Comox and I coud get lost in my own town...the woods here are not forgiving.Glad he was found but the RCMP here im not a fan of

[@wordsleuth992]

katya banks very scary and my worst fear with my own father.

[@michellestevenson5703]

Omg was just at the Pickering beach telling a friend about this last night. I used to work with one of those boys sister it was so sad .GOD BLESS

[@SpiceyKy]

I think there was some foul play involved. Somebody did something to them.

[@kathymyers7279]

Isnt it crazy about all the bumbling and bad police work that went on? Like authorities were covering something up. It was ridiculous!

[@lynsirobertson3527]

All 6 of them? Nahhh

[@lynsirobertson3527]

@@kathymyers7279 now if you're thinking the p.d has a hand in it, very possible

[@TiffWaffles]

Lake Ontario can be a very tumultuous lake, even on a very good day. But listening more to this story, I can definitely see what you mean with your suspicions though.

[@SpiceyKy]

@@lynsirobertson3527 Yes. All 6 of them. Cult like things happen everyday.

[@tinabullard7540]

Who needs Audible when you have Stephanie 🤷you are my Audible! Literally

[@sketchtown6663]

Chads mother just recently posted asking if anyone had any information. I grew up hearing about this and have always been curious, hope the families get closure one day.

[@mkbuser]

Very interesting case, Stephanie. It's hard to imagine how 6 young men could all disappear WITHOUT A TRACE at the same time unless foul play of come sort was involved. I must say, the police dropped the ball on this one.......or did they? Smacks of cover-up.

[@jackiemcquade204]

So sorry for your loss! I truly hope they solve this & give you and all the families some closure.

[@remmus8056]

Maybe their shenanigans included playing “chicken” and the boat crashed into the tricycle. It’s hard to believe nothing was ever found though.

[@fafnyrslair]

This is a common theory, whether on purpose or accident, but wouldn't there still be some debris from something?

[@DeathSnacker]

I was thinking the same. A foolish game of bumper cars. Alcohol + teenage boys =out of control behavior. Add a large body of water and fun vehicles and you’ve got a disaster.

[@moniquemc4553]

Remmus 80 that actually makes sense

[@JadedJade_]

Hegelian Dialectic I’m sorry about your friend. What do you think went down?

[@danieltribley4557]

@@fafnyrslair there was debris if you listen to this or the pi. The police never followed up on it.

[@shelby.inspired]

I live in rural Ontario and I have NEVER heard of this. It seems like our media is pretty hush hush about stories like this. Thanks so much for sharing their story!

[@dontcarebear3227]

i’d really love to believe that they all just ran away and they’re living happy lives. in my opinion, i think they saw something they weren’t supposed to see. this is so tragic.

[@Wolfintery]

I remember going canoeing in 40 degree weather with some friends. I was drinking super heavily when I tipped my canoe. sobered me up real fast but my body completely seized up. Fortunately my friends were there for me. I'm not familiar with lake Ontario but I know Lake Michigan and Superior show no mercy year round.

[@wwindwwalker3536]

After hearing this case, I strongly feel the met with foul play! The odds of 6 friends going missing with no trace are very slim. The did not just drown, sounds like they were murdered.

[@slh3923]

Hmmm, would it be possible that some sort of accident happened to some of the boys, the others freaked out thinking they would get in trouble, covered it up and then disappeared? Although that may be way to hard to pull off for a group of teenagers. 🤔

[@joshuaary3191]

not as hard as you may think unfortunately. Considering where they were there could've been an accident on the lake several of the boys died, the rest panicked hid there bodies in the lake, and undercover of the rest if the early morning went across to new York and started new lives, under new names and identities. Back then I'm sure not many businesses always asked lot of questions or actually looked up there employees so they could've got jobs and who knows what from there.

[@persephonespomegranate]

Thank you so much for covering this. I live near Pickering and the boys were just a little younger than me. This case has stuck with for a very long time. I’ve always assumed it was a water accident and the bodies have just never been found (public surprise at ‘no body cases’ always surprises me - the world is a still vast place that holds onto its secrets) but truthfully, anything could’ve happened including abduction. I feel for these boys & their families.

[@ericad8616]

People tend to underestimate how dangerous a lake like Ontario can be. They say "Oh its just a lake, its not like its the ocean", as if its a safe, calm little recreational area, barely bigger than a pond, but this is not the case. True, Ontario is the smallest of the great lakes by surface area and second smallest by volume, but it is still a massive body of water. It is the 13th largest lake in the world and to give some perspective on how big it actually is, it is larger than the entire state of New Jersey. Its can also be quite cold and can have some crazy weather. It might not have the legendary size or power of Lake Superior, but it is still not to be trifled with. Also, while true Boston Whalers are extremely tough, maybe nearly impossible to sink, the boat the boys took was an *imitation* Boston Whaler, not a real one. There are quite a few knock off Boston Whalers and they vary in quality. It's possible that this boat did not have the quality or structural integrity of an actual Boston Whaler and therefore might have been more prone to sinking. . Im not saying the boys definitely went down in that lake, but I think a lot of people are too quick to dismiss the possibility. The one thing I know is that its extremely difficult to make six nearly grown men disappear without a trace, but one agent capable of doing so would be a huge, deep, cold body of water like Lake Ontario.

[@badmom7906]

As a mother of 2 teenage boys this breaks my heart into a million pieces. As for the specifics.....6 people don’t just “vanish w/out a trace....any other leads followed, on land????

[@emilywiltshire3175]

Yaaaaay, life sucks right not but when Stephanie uploads life is good again hahaha, thank you! One thing Stephanie does like no other is humanize the people involved so beautifully, you really feel like you know them even when no much info available she does such a great job, such a talent to be able to do that

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

Her: "I'm not Canadian so hopefully my Canadian fans can help me out" My 15mos old: "no" Me: "well you're not Canadian, so don't worry about it" 😂😂

[@nicolecourtney8688]

😆

[@nicolecourtney8688]

@Ronald Tanner are you okay?.... Like, for real? there are people you can talk to about your anger issues hun.

[@ashleymiller1625]

So cute 😂

[@Agentscrange333]

I was just watching this I'm so glad you covered this. I'm from Canada. But I never thought you'd do it. Thanks girl you are the best.

[@Amsayy]

geegee whee I would love to see Stephanie cover some more of our cases. We have a reputation for being a chill and polite people, but we have some of (in my opinion, anyway) the most heinous crimes and elusive mysteries despite it.

[@rosepry5223]

Go Canada lol we have some wack cases

[@NoBaloneyHomosapiens]

@@Amsayy it's true, out country was founded on some of the most disgusting hate crimes and murders, especially against children (think residential schools) and continues to have some absolutely horrible crimes. While most Canadians are kind enough, the bad people know how to hide their crimes well which isn't hard in a vastly empty land with lack luster police enforcement. I wish people would see that better, so many people get hurt here expecting a safer country then the come into unfortunately.

[@iciajay6891]

BC has quite the amount of serial killers. I can't wait for her to cover some of the cases.

[@neuralmute]

@@iciajay6891 Stephanie could do one doozy of a series on Picton alone!