PS6 Rumors Begin: Sony Chose AMD Over Intel For PlayStation 6 Over Backwards Compatibility & Pricing

[@dlcart1091]

If playstation 6 really wants to be backwards compatible, they better have a disc drive since most of our games on ps4 and before are on discs. Claiming to be backwards compatible with no disc drive would be a joke.

[@loci5327]

All now is speculation, but if the PS6 is backwards compatible, they will have a version with a disc drive. It wouldn't have any sense at all if it wouldn't. I only hope the price will be okay then...

[@crit_dante]

Trust me it wont have disk drive look at the ps5 pro 😂

[@MakZakk]

it will 100% be optional. probably not even the way ps5 slim/pro are. i bet they will just sell a completely external drive at an even higher price that you will just plug with a cable or something

[@gajofixe76]

Most people buy digital

[@dlcart1091]

@@crit_dante depends on how dumb we are and if a majority rush in and buy the pro. If we stand up and get them to cave, we get a disc drive. But this younger generation is ignorant and arrogant, letting things get taken away from them because they think they don't need it. Wait until the license collapses or the servers get pulled and they wish they had a physical copy.

[@dabluntz19]

This gen is still so unrealized, people will keep ps5 for even longer than people have kept their PS4.

[@squirtle88]

personally I think about selling my PS5 almost daily but it is my only 4K blu ray player so I hold on to it

[@JustAnotherGamer1005]

I'm still at PS4 (Pro). I actually borrowed a PS5 (digital) from my nephew for the last 2 weeks. And although I enjoyed it (especially the controller), I'm actually still not in a rush to get one. I even tried it on a 4K HDR tv (LG G1), while my PS4 (Pro) is hooked on a 16 year old Panasonic Plasma tv. The difference is ofcourse noticeable, but not in that way that it feels like it is 'unbearable', like it would now with a PS1 or PS2 game. I still enjoy my PS4 Pro and even my PS3. I wanted to go for the PS5 Pro, but with that price-tag, it's not a consideration anymore.

[@Tyler_Wildman]

It still feels like this generation is still waiting to really get going. I know the pandemic didn’t help, but I honestly think that this is just how it’s going to be now. Games take way too long to make and tech is moving so fast that we just can’t get the same level of games we did 20 years ago. Reminder that the PS2 had three original mainline GTA games, PS3 had two. We got four original Naughty Dog titles on the PS3, three on the PS4 (sort of, Lost Legacy is like half I guess), and nothing so far on the PS5, probably one if we’re lucky. Sorry state of affairs.

[@amnril]

@@JustAnotherGamer1005ps5 plays ps4 games minus the jet engine sound effects from the actual console, a major reason I stopped playing on it. Meanwhile my ps5 (release day Nov 2020 model) is whisper quiet.

[@alexandercatterson223]

​@@amnril And on top of that the PS5 uses hardly any power playing PS4 games. People always say that backwards compatibility is hardly used when it comes to games consoles but that just is false when it's PS5, PS5 is the ultimate PS4 and it can play this generation games on top.

[@CommanderKappa]

For me it still feels like PS5 came out yesterday. Seeing the PS6 release comming near feels so unreal.

[@Morrisonmargiela]

We getting old

[@Zeegoku1007]

Then you are getting older and not finding enough time to play on the PS5....I easily have thousands of hours on it, the generation might be slow but it's my favourite PlayStation to date !

[@dr_diddy]

fr, the consoles weren't available for like a year or 2 after release due to scalpers and the consoles didn't release with any true exclusives. And we haven't really had many major releases

[@lukastemberger]

​@@dr_diddyI've had it since day 1... And there were many major releases. After 4 years, I'm ready for an upgrade.

[@thee0ryx939]

2028 projected for ps6

[@MakoTenseii]

PS6 is likely the last chance we have for a fully backwards compatible console before the end of physical media. But I unfortunately dont see sony caring that much about ps1-3. And backwards compatibility with 4 or 5 is not an exciting prospect. It just leads me further into feeling like I'm falling off of modern gaming because this console cycle has disappointed me immensely.

[@dlcart1091]

As long as they put a disc drive in it. If we don't stand up and refuse to buy this ps5 pro, say goodbye to the disc drive and true backwards compatibility.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Then don't buy it geeze

[@roadrash2005]

@@dlcart1091you can’t use your disks for old games anyways. There’s no need to get excited about back compatibility

[@dlcart1091]

@@roadrash2005 only because they don't let you. Back on ps3 we could put a ps1 disc in and run it just fine.

[@XenPete]

@@roadrash2005You can put a 360 game in a Xbox Series X

[@Ryan1993uk]

if the PS6 has full backwards compatibility, it would be the best console ever made, would be very expensive tho

[@UltimateInkling]

I dont see it happening unfortunately feels too good to be true, the ps1 and ps3 i mean

[@MortalisPT]

Not really. Its the same architecture of instruction set. Its like upgrading your current PC to a faster one.

[@LoneWolfGamer06]

I'm a PS gamer but why would it make it the "best console ever?" The Series X basically has full back compatibility. All newer consoles should still be able to play older games. It helps gamers choose to stay with their choice of plastic box

[@arunabhmahanta]

They couldn’t even allow disc based backwards compatibility for PS5, what makes you think they’re going to do it for PS6? If they wanted to, they definitely could’ve used the Blu Ray player to read PS3 discs to “unlock” a digital license for that game, just like Microsoft does it with Xbox. It’s not going to happen, they don’t care about customers… they’d rather “sell” you remakes and remasters.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

$599 minimum for PS6 that's for sure. Well, they could always break headlines and all sorts of excitement if it they announce a price tag of $499 and then it will sell out for months just like the PS5 did.

[@eded9157]

Switch away from AMD would have being WILD. I see no reason why Sony would do that, no way Intel will offers better prices and Intel can not compete on the GPU space against AMD. The only real reason for Sony to ditch AMD is the future and probably inevitable jump to ARM architecture, but we are not there yet.

[@noahosborne8581]

Isn't AMD also experimenting with ARM?

[@StoicPhilosophyyyy]

I think AMD should have a ARM licence

[@eded9157]

@@noahosborne8581 They do, but on that space there's way better options than AMD.

[@isaacroberts9973]

It's true. AMD has become sentient and has ARM now. Soon it will have HAND and LEG

[@NEWLifeXs]

​@noahosborne8581 They do but they fail. Nvidia got em bad there

[@voltzx1040]

Full backwards compatibility should have been the focus with this PS5 generation

[@TakeshiInazuma]

PS3 was a throrn in Sony side.

[@Heyim18bro]

@@TakeshiInazuma I mean there's barely any support for ps2 or ps1 games, seems like backwards compatibility in general was a thorn in their side considering the lack of any implementation

[@TakeshiInazuma]

@@Heyim18bro I mean... PS1 was backward compatible with the PS2, Ps3, PSP, and PS Vita. PS2 was Backwards compatible with PS3(certain models), and had ports to PS4. PS4 and PS5 are adding more games monthly, albeit slowly, but the number is steadily increasing. PS3 Cell architecture has been horrible to emulate. RPCS3 make good strides, but for consumer consumption.

[@Heyim18bro]

@@TakeshiInazuma I'm aware, I'm pointing out the lack of backwards compatibility with the ps5 at all

[@TakeshiInazuma]

@Heyim18bro PS4 is backwards compatible on the PS5, though...

[@jasonpn]

2020 still feels like yesterday to me can't believe playstation 5 is 4 years old soon

[@UkAlphadog73]

4 years and PS5 Has only just Getting PS5 Only Games ,Greed keeps PS4 Selling along with PS5 Games,im Happy with mine and i was Scalped so i did pay 700 GBP,Pro is a cash Grab and i am not Remotely intrested,PS6

[@CraigSteelyard]

And there's not much to play, that is new! There's only so many times I want to re buy the last of us or uncharted 4

[@HenchieForce]

Keep in mind we are 3 years away from another generation of gaming

[@epicgamer66941]

and that the ps4 is now 10 years old (11 years old in 34 days)

[@rh7163]

I'm still trying to get over Whitney Houston and many other highly talented and gifted celebrities although her daughter provided a double whammy that made it a bit harder to take in. Sometimes, I wonder if these celebrities ever think about their fans who have so much emotional love and ties that they may never have been aware of and yet the years pass and the ties remain unbroken. No soap, just a fact worth considering. So many people with so many ways that impact the lives of so many others without it being mentioned.

[@Etrezi]

Finally the PS6 will have PS5 exclusives

[@NoiizeR]

🤣

[@ch3micalromanc369]

So true 😂

[@swellerace]

Without the disc drive!

[@kolouk9979]

Most of them are ps4 exclusives, maybe uncharted 4 will be remastered for ps6 and i need it to upgrade again 😭

[@Donald_Allan]

Hopefully by the time the PS6 releases, Sony will have figured out a way to allow for PS3 titiles to be playable locally on console.

[@elbuglione]

Just switch to SteamOS

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

I'd love that too but it would kill the revenue from digital sales/whatever ps plus level they locked it behind

[@Blackjack-2028]

You're still going to be playing PS3 on PS6? Just emulate it already.

[@Donald_Allan]

@@Blackjack-2028 Nothing wrong with playing old games. Mind you the fanboys don't like it when you say that 🤣

[@funkymonk255]

why do you care what happens to sonys revenue

[@leonreaper90]

I mentioned this yesterday, if they make a PS6 backwards compatible. People would literally fight over it.

[@mrz3062]

Based on how this generation has been handled, I think PS5 should have been launched much later than 2020. The majority of new games over the years have been cross-gen. Heck, EA has now ported Jedi Survivor on PS4. Just goes to show that PS4 at least is still a very capable console. If Sony waited, we could have had a much more powerful system to the extent there would be no need for Pro system.

[@Passageofsky]

I'm going to chose AMD over Intel too.

[@rachort3811]

😂

[@agiaco000]

Yeah 😂

[@jonathan_420]

Exactly

[@alexhein6054]

Amd is always better than intel

[@chillnspace777]

Haven't had an intel since 4770k

[@PackBrewBadgeWI4]

The fact the PS5 Pro is priced at 699 USD without a built-in disk drive is an ominous sign of what's to arrive when Sony does launch the PS6. At this rate, I expect the PS6 to be priced anywhere from 799-899 USD, all digital, always require an internet connection to play games like Microsoft attempted with the Xbox One in 2013, and base games priced at 99 USD or higher

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

I love the Packers

[@cmart5]

I can see it now. 799 digital 899 disc

[@timowthie]

​@@cmart5and 999 in europe

[@KnowledgeSimmons]

I fear it but I expect this too

[@TheOpethOfMastodon]

That's when I will completely check out from gaming, and find new hobbies.

[@cwehden]

There are relativly speaking almost no games for the current gen yet let alone a new cycle.

[@gamefrk11523]

Unfortunately it just seems like this gen will be skipped by most first party exclusives and most likely be ps6 titles

[@BUPMY1]

​@@gamefrk11523 Cross Gen between PS5/PS6 games should be a sure bet.

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Cross gen just ended a few months ago, from now on everything is just on PS5. Which is a shame, PS4 was at this point 2 years in. Witcher 3 launched in 2015

[@ForeverWinter1812]

There's relatively no exclusive titles. There's definitely games they're just not pushing the envelope.

[@toastyburger]

"No games" is a you problem. I have a dozen games in my backlog. Games I want to play come out faster than I can finish them.

[@azazeln]

What? Already talking about PS6? Sony, honey, you haven't even started with PS5. You haven't built a serious game library for the system and half of your consumer base is still on PS4, get your act together.

[@brianmcswain8932]

You realize SONY is not talking about PS6. This is coming from other sources and of course Sony is working on the future PS6. They start planning consoles years in advance.

[@azazeln]

@@brianmcswain8932 planning their consoles but not games for their consoles

[@proggz39]

@@azazelnevery console is planned 3-4 years in advance

[@squirtle88]

@@proggz39 yes but who cares about hardware when we are lacking first party titles

[@adrian_veidt]

Ps6? Man, they better fix ps5 library first

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

look no PS6 to 2028 early 2030 late

[@jake4532]

Would love backwards compatibility for even ps3, ps2 games!

[@andriklimon4790]

Ps3 emulation backwards compatibility is currently in development for ps5

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

Yay another console that has games taking entire generations to be made. 9th gen has really killed my hype for gaming as a whole lol.

[@davidmercer8912]

Gaming industry is its own worst enemy. Always looking ahead to the next big thing and rarely taking time to fully realize the moment/generation they’re in. The entire industry is in the process of outpacing and out pricing its consumers.

[@zan8117]

PS4 Pro was $399 which was the price of the base ps4 at launch and the PS5 ended up being $499 so I don't expect PS6 to be affordable. It's either gonna keep $699 price tag of PS5 Pro not including Disc Drive or it's gonna be $799.

[@mala4196]

id like the PS6 to be able to play all generations of Playstation games.

[@Carno_Yujia]

That requires sony to be old sony for that to happen

[@TheOpethOfMastodon]

Too much faith in a corporation

[@steven-i6j]

It will be interesting what they do with a PS6 and how they market it because unless over the next 3-4 years technology has a massive leap and the cost of that technology comes down games will still be 4k 30/60 fps. Game developers already complain about the cost of a 4k game can you imagine the cost of the next level. Which is why I think 4k 30/60 fps is the peak and now console's are at the same stage as apple iphone users the same thing every time a new model comes out costing more and more with each model.

[@alonzor.2912]

It is incredibly naive to believe that PS6 will be backwards compatible to anything prior to PS4. I do not see PS6 playing PlayStation 1, 2 and 3 games. You heard it here first…

[@tylere.8436]

That's not a particularly wild take, it's rather realistic.

[@JSXADMIN]

The way the industry is going in my opinion is that they won't need backward compatibility as developers will remaster all the old games like they have been doing now.

[@tincankiller6454]

If backward compatibility meant all the way back to PS1, 2, 3, 4, 5 then they would lead all game consoles in the market. I doubt they would or could do that BUT if they did, even if the cost was higher man, it would be everyone's dream machine.

[@GalathNox]

$700 for a PS6 that would be COMPLETELY backwards compatible? We're talking 30+ years of compatibility. Yeah, I could probably get behind that price point. Unfortunately, we'll never get complete backwards compatibility no matter if the hardware makes it possible because of expired licensing and such. That's the problem right now with Xbox and why their catalogue has holes in it.

[@rachort3811]

Dream on, kid.

[@KnucklesWTD]

Better to sell you remasters

[@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176]

I have a feeling that the PS6 will be backwards compatible with PS5 games, and unfortunately I have a feeling that you would have to jailbreak the PS6 to play PS4 games on it. Like how you would have to jailbreak the Wii U to play GameCube games, or the later models of the PS3 to play PS2 games.

[@GalathNox]

@@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176 I'm pretty sure PS4 will be included in that too since they are backwards compatible with the PS5.

[@princegroove]

Although, I’m an Intel and Nvidia fanboy, I’m glad that Sony stuck with AMD.

[@thecasualfly]

Yeah it makes sense ..they have the most experience in that ecosystem

[@Docwiz2]

It's a mistake, they should go towards ARM and not towards x86 at all. This will hurt them dearly in the end. This is why the move to the PS5 Pro is not sustainable. They are screwed as die space is at a premium now and they need to go towards die space and transistor savings.

[@TecraX2]

Intel's CPUs are 🔥🔥🔥

[@sageninja7260]

@@Docwiz2PS5 Pro selling like hotcakes

[@ThomasShears-o9c]

I just want RDR2 at 60fps on consoles already 😢

[@JakeySurani]

Build a pc

[@DavideDavini]

@@JakeySuraniwhich are notoriously not consoles. Thanks for playing, but no cigar.

[@JakeySurani]

@@DavideDavini then ur forever be stuck at 30 fps 🤣🤣🤣

[@dr_diddy]

@@JakeySurani This generation has been a good advertisement for pc gaming. You can build a similar spec PS5 pro for the same price (brand new) depending which area and have access to more games and lower cost. Why buy a console that has 3 exclusives each cycle?

[@JKSmith-qs2ii]

@@dr_diddy Can you recommend some parts I would need for an equivalent PC. I'm actually not kidding I stopped playing PC around 2018. I have tried to find some parts together but to get something equivalent to a PS5 Pro I still get over 1000 euros, i'm not looking for used parts. Also how bad is the shader compilation stutter problem really? I know Elden Ring for example suffers from it heavily but what about other titles?

[@IuriFiedoruk]

Oh, and the PS5 was sold with a loss only for 4 months. It is not a subsidied console, at least the version with disc drive.

[@Packin-Heat.]

Nope they broke even on the cost to manufacture but that didn't include import and export fees etc also because of inflation they posted a loss on hardware again in their latest financials.

[@leonbabic7185]

Yeah, but even then the margins would still be very thin for Sony. Other tech products tend to have ridicolous margins, like iPhones and GPUs.

[@davidforman6191]

​@@Packin-Heat.Hardware encompasses more than just PS5. You may want to revisit tne results if it is the May stats you are referring to. Then read the note stating what hardware includes.

[@DalazG]

Sadly as a lifelong Playstation owner, I'm struggling to be sold on a future console. I think I'll probably be switching to pc based on their current trajectory Why would i buy a PS6 as opposed to pc for: - games that are no longer exclusive, all on pc - paid online vs free on pc - paid cloud saves vs free on pc - ALL xbox, pc and Playstation games on pc. There's a good chance valve will release a future steamdeck console like experience that is upgradable. I dont think sony is treating their console audience any better so why stay?

[@dabluntz19]

We can only hope Valve dips into the console space. A Valve system would put the fear of god into Sony, those steam prices alone are enough to.

[@DalazG]

@dabluntz19 i think there's a good chance they will. They previously had an attempt at it but since the success of the steamdeck, can't see why the wouldn't try again. Even if they don't, i can easily see Steamdeck2 being a good all in one device. Even Sony optimized their games for the current steamdeck. Future games will absolutely run on steamdeck2 from ps6 and the next xbox gen. I'm probably going to reluctantly ditch the console since i don't want to be ripped off. Good luck to sony settling with ever decreasing third party support and having to pay 30% for their games to be sold on steam vs psn

[@1992TheDiamondWolf]

Only Nintendo exclusives stay exclusives to there Nintendo platform only. sony need put PSN on PC at this point since there gonna 3rd party.

[@Jumpman67]

Well the answer to your question is convenience, money and time. Console gaming is plug and play, where as PC can often be a game in and of itself of configuring everything, updating things, swapping out parts when they go obsolete. Console gaming removes all of that. Yes most if not all games go to PC eventually but it's a matter of years for Playstation games and I believe it's similar for Nintendo. Also despite what many people on X say, PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming. I'm not going to get into all the specs and paying for PS+ negating that (which it doesn't) but PC gaming is more expensive. I've done both. As I've gotten older I just prefer the least amount of hassle and that's why I use my console. PC definitely has its perks but lets not pretend like there aren't drawbacks.

[@KnucklesWTD]

Console audience is mostly people playing fortnite cod gta 2k etc they think this audience will stay on console forever

[@floopyfloof2384]

if the ps6 is actually backwards compatible, it better play games off the disc

[@justinstewart3248]

I haven’t bought a PS5 disc game in 3 years. There’s just no need anymore, at all. Like How many CDs do you go back and play on your old cd player, literally ever? I have everything I need on Spotify now. The same is true of gaming. I have never once bought a PC game on disc and I’m perfectly happy.

[@ronaldcharan2705]

For the low price of $899.99 and 4 games at launch. 2 multiplats and 2 remasters.

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

that cap

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

please lay off the drugs i want you to lived a long time

[@ronaldcharan2705]

@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 cope. Stop giving sony those backshots. Go ahead and waste your money on the PS5 pro while you're at it.

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@ronaldcharan2705 bro i have a regular PS5 do not need a pro thank you

[@CháleloTheAtheist]

For real😂

[@firesofanarchy2500]

I said it in my reply to the initial news story and I'll say it here. If backwards compatibility is such a priority then we need it for PS3 games.

[@SnappySanad]

ps6 might be the first generation I straight up skip and wait for ps7 lmao, I'm still going through my ps4 backlog on my ps5

[@AthleticHobo-br4qh]

You are probably going to have a change of priorities anyways as you enter your 30s. Family 1st!

[@squirtle88]

not a bad plan, I may do the same unless sony has something up their sleeve besides raising prices drastically for incremental upgrades

[@bartonlynch]

If indeed Sony is sticking with AMD and therefor x86 for backwards compatibility (native, not emulated), AMD should focus on making the custom APU energy efficient like Intel's Lunar Lake. This means going full SoC (System on Chip) design for a very low power draw and a high performance output, maybe over 50TF but under 100W. It would require a small heatsink and PSU (Power Supply) and the unit could be as small as a NUC PC. Thoughts?

[@itai90f11]

I guess the ps5 pro reveal was so horrendous, and also the concord launch disaster can be a reason, sony "leaked" some ps6 info to compensate?

[@DavideDavini]

The Pro reveal was so bad most people forgot about the Concord debacle. I honestly don’t know what they were thinking when they decided to do it like that. I guess it’s easy in hindsight but man, they made it look uninteresting as F. Then, they dropped the price bomb. That sealed the deal for me. I have no urgency to put my hands on a PS5 Pro.

[@BUPMY1]

​@@DavideDaviniThat bad to a point people forgot about Concord?😮

[@incorrupti3557]

Ps5 is already 4 yrs old. This is actually the right time for them to start planning for ps6. I just wish we got another handheld from sony.

[@DavideDavini]

@@BUPMY1 Just a hyperbole, it didn't come out as I imagined it would, did it? Cheers mate.

[@itai90f11]

@@incorrupti3557 the timing is really sus.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

I don't want to hear anything about a hypothetical console that doesn't exist yet, and won't exist for another four years at least. I just care about the PS5 right now

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

thank you me to

[@danieljames7605]

bring back playstation community

[@AstralFrost]

I'm still seeing a lot of problems in game graphics. We are experiencing diminishing returns, though, so they definitely need to diversify in terms of selling points.

[@zfighter3]

The price isn't the worst part. It's that the "enthusiasts" console has nothing included and it's all sold separate. If you think it's just the price alone, your hand isn't on the pulse.

[@ryans7097]

I feel like we are at the point where console generations will be incremental improvements like iphones are now. The vast majority of people who buy them will not be able to tell any substantial differences.

[@NobleBruv]

If there's no disc drives or real chance for true backwards compatibility for every generation of playstation, the the PS5 will be the last console I'll ever buy.

[@swellerace]

They're won't be the disc drive is basically over!

[@secondchance6603]

If there's no disk drive then I'm out.

[@TheOpethOfMastodon]

Even if it does, I'm not buying another console for the rest of this decade at least.

[@swellerace]

@@secondchance6603 the compact disc is obsolete that's why music, DVD etc.

[@Skotone514]

Watch it be up to PS4 only lmao

[@Mijemega]

If PS6 can read PS3 Discs, they can release it tomorrow, and I will be happy to pay $1000 🤪

[@squirtle88]

truuuuu

[@G4M3RGU1D3]

the release of the ps5 pro and the drop of most of their psvr division made me sick of them. Dont count on me for ps5 pro, nor the ps6 nor the ps143542

[@kaitojeanne815]

I just hope the PS6 will have two versions again-one with a disc drive and one that's digital. If the disc drive is only optional, then most PS6 games would probably end up being digital only.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

That is not going to happen, there is no upside to it

[@Brandamania2]

Disk drive playstations have digital, too. Why do you need a digital only? Just decide not to buy physical games.

[@Jake-uv4sl]

​@@Brandamania2if only Sony realised that as you did, there is no point in digital only garbage

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@Jake-uv4sl My entire game collection is digital

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@unicorntomboy9736 1st off how do you know you work Sony

[@ChesterMan-qd3xj]

Sony has a games problem, not a hardware one.

[@justinstewart3248]

Yes it’s been a slight drought for the last year, but nothing like the problems Xbox has.

[@ChesterMan-qd3xj]

@@justinstewart3248 neither system has done well with exclusives this generation compared to past ones. Xbox has COD, Stalker 2 and Indiana Jones yet this year, so I’m glad I own an Xbox as well.

[@thomaspantrias9635]

If the make an emulator for PS3 in the next console which i also think is possible i hope at least the digital games we bought back then to be available the same way the did for ps1 and psp games, i don't know if it works the same way for the ps2 titles so far.

[@lindah6954]

Without games for it. I'll pass.

[@NoahBoat_14]

If the PS5 pro is already 700 then we are screwed for the PS6. To be fair tho I still spent that just on the PS5 from a reseller during the console shortages… not proud about it 😅

[@djp1234]

I lost interest in consoles. They're not taking VR games seriously and they don't want my money. Lately, I've been playing AAA games in VR on PC. That is the future of gaming.

[@Mirror371]

Yeah let’s f0rce everyone down one path good job on acting like the companies you don’t like

[@djp1234]

@@Mirror371 no one is forcing you to do anything

[@SahilG23]

Might be the last console, considering the 3 major advantages of owning a console is past us. Afordability, physical games, easy to use. Can get a powerful pc at 800$, Physical games are being murderd and its a hassle 1st to find a playstation for couple of years then to assemble with ssd, disc drive, stands etc. Age of PC gaming is upon us.

[@TheClyde1993]

If the PS6 does not have a disc drive, then I don't think there really is a reason for me to continue with console gaming. I'll then maybe stick with Nintendo, Retro Gaming and something like a Steam Deck or anything similar.

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

it will have a disc drive don't listen to everything you hear online did your mom ever told you that

[@YouMissedAgainTimes32024]

​@@samuraibeastwarrior2886PS5 Pro has no disc drive, cope and seethe Pony

[@mandarinamala6513]

I was hopping for the Cell processor to make a return

[@InFlamesor12]

Well there you go I wrote earlier the ps5 pro is just sony testing waters for ps6 pricing, it could easily cost a thousand euros here in europe in 2028

[@imlegend8108]

They can only offer the pro model for a high price because theres a base model people will buy nevertheless. A 1000€ base model would mean that this huge gigantic customer base just brakes away. Pretty sure Sony doesnt want their… lets say 80-100mio sales of consoles when the PS6 drops shrinked to the 20mio. Itd probably still sell better then the pro cause its a new gen. But a big part of the customers would probably not buy it

[@InFlamesor12]

@@imlegend8108 Iam pretty sure, fans who bought ps5 will definitely buy ps6, whatever it the cost.

[@xpacerx]

The Intel contract was only used to reduce the price with AMD. This is a common tactic used in that industry. Tom from "Moores Law is Dead" podcast explained these tactics when he broke the news about Sony having a contract with AMD to make chips for PS6 and a PS mobile device.

[@smartlibra2965]

All PlayStation games should run by the time PS6 comes. Original discs too from ps1/2/3/4/5 Also it needs to upscale and run 120fps at 4k. Minimum requirements !!

[@brianmcswain8932]

Running 120fps is a waste. Locked 60fps is all we need.

[@smartlibra2965]

@@brianmcswain8932 my tv does 120fps. I thought I needed it. So want to make use of it 😂

[@teckademic33]

how are we discussing the PS6 when the PS4 hasn’t even been phased out? We barely have PS5 exclusives since most games continue to be optimized for PS4.

[@HuGiv5]

Ps6 is 2028 at best and one AMD insider on KZbin is also saying it might slip to 2029 according to his sources.

[@baki484]

2029 would be better.

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@baki484 i say 20230 for PS6

[@brandonscott6606]

Instead of a pro I’ll buy 20 ps3 slims

[@squirtle88]

lmao I would do the same

[@APE029]

While Ps5 generation has been a joke I think the ps5 will be my last PlayStation I still find myself playing ps3 games more than some ps5

[@EL1King]

So you are going to give up gaming overall? Based on what you are saying you will give up on ps because of the lack of games ,while in reality that lack of games you are talking about Is across all the platforms .

[@Carno_Yujia]

​@EL1King no not really. Quite a poor take. Nintendo is cooking. Xbox ain't making games because of Phil's dumb*ss take on "games don't make Consoles" the way forward for consumers is pc at this point because of how ridiculous sony is charging for their ps5 pro. But go enjoy your Concord buddy 😂

[@gaminghedgehog6384]

@@Carno_Yujiayeah atp, PC and Nintendo are the way to go for gaming.

[@Mirror371]

@@Carno_Yujiayou brought up concord they didn’t y’all act just like the companies you talk about very inconsiderate and insensitive

[@Mirror371]

@@gaminghedgehog6384and you think pc and Nintendo are better? Same company different products

[@WebstersYouTube]

Given my general disappointment with this generation and the PlayStation 5, Sony would have to be offering something absolutely incredible for me to be interested in PS6. I certainly won't be there at launch, like I have been for previous consoles. I'll be waiting for at least two years after launch and it will be directly competing with just upgrading my PC instead.

[@chuyyou]

Lot of ps4 people still don't have a ps5, now we talking about ps6. 😅

[@romanski5811]

That's because developers should all just stop releasing on PS4. Then this will create pressure to buy the PS5. All the previous transitions were such that eventually people stopped releasing games for the PS1, PS2 and PS3. But this time it's different. PS4 is still constantly getting new games. Which is strange and should stop.

[@tokiibun]

​@romanski5811 Unfortunately those developers want to release to ps4 because of the user base, which just creates a chicken and egg situation 🥲

[@dr_diddy]

for reference playstation has roughly 110 million active players (sheesh) 49 million are PS4 as of 2024

[@chuyyou]

@@romanski5811 Yeah you right, I only bought it for Spider-Man 2. I stopped using it because there aren't many exclusive games. Now I used the PC more, it wasn't like that before when the PS4 was at its peak.

[@chuyyou]

@@dr_diddy If that's true, that is so crazy ,since almost all Playstation exclusive games can be played on the ps4. I felt like I wasted my money buying it.

[@Rixx432]

If they do ps3 and ps2 games backwards compatible that will be brilliant

[@jimcarrey2866]

Still not a peep about the PS3

[@lukastemberger]

Looks like they made a huge mistake by adding a 2TB SSD to the PS5 Pro. If they kept the same one and made it 600, people would think it was cheap.

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

I've given up on Playstation

[@tylere.8436]

Same. Stopped with PS4. Nothing has sold me on PS5 and I'd rather invest in my PC and look into the Switch 2. Sony just lost the plot ever since PS4 Pro

[@Carno_Yujia]

​@@tylere.8436well said

[@王一荷]

It’s going to be more like a PC, disc drive will shift from been essential to optional, the standard bundle won’t have it but you can buy an external one separately. The importance of a disc drive will go from as important as the controller to a TV remote

[@ToiletGrenade]

A fully backwards compatible PS6 should be the absolute minimum

[@unicorntomboy9736]

It's guaranteed to be backwards compatible with PS4 and obviously PS5 games

[@ToiletGrenade]

@@unicorntomboy9736 That's not fully backwards compatible.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@ToiletGrenade Why does it matter. You'll have 15 years of games to enjoy, which is more than enough to me

[@ToiletGrenade]

@@unicorntomboy9736 I don't want 15 years of games, I want 30. I still own all my PS2 and PS3 games, so why let them rot when I can enjoy them again?

[@tylere.8436]

​@@ToiletGrenade Get a launch model PS3

[@SwiftGuyver.]

Talks of PS6 whilst we're still getting new games released on PS4. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor released on PS4 today actually and looks and plays more than fine by all accounts. Diminishing returns for higher prices indeed. I predict new PS consoles are going to become much more niche whilst most players will either stick with the previous gen machine or move to PC. I can see the PS6 selling a lot less than PS4 & PS5 while Nintendo continue to appeal to a mass audience with the broadest age range and sell another 140+ million of their next console using lesser tech, more modest prices, the flexibility of a hybrid machine also offering a handheld option and 1st party exclusivity.

[@BUPMY1]

lol@ Jedi Survivor for the PS4/Xone.

[@brianmcswain8932]

What??? The PS5Pro is a mid gen optional upgrade. It’s not meant to replace the PS5 base model! When the PS6 launches it will be priced to sell to the masses just like the PS5.

[@SwiftGuyver.]

@@brianmcswain8932 Where did I mention PS5 Pro?! And you really think PS6 is going to be less than $699?!

[@Carno_Yujia]

Spot on

[@judi100]

NO DISC DRIVE = NO BUY ⚠This comment section has turned into a clown show. Enter at your own risk-bozo syndrome is highly contagious.

[@drblitz3092]

No vhs no buy. Get over it

[@judi100]

@@drblitz3092 I just like owning things. You wouldn’t get it 💿💿💿💿😂

[@drblitz3092]

@@judi100nah you just broke

[@malcolmportelli9059]

I really think theyre outdated. Time to move on bro

[@judi100]

@@drblitz3092 Desperate bait

[@Heyim18bro]

It's sad that the backwards compatibility they are referring to almost undoubtedly just means for the ps6 to play ps5 games, maybe ps4 given the similar architecture, and nothing else...

[@nowanepcfw]

PlayStation fan: PS5 has no game PlayStation: Let's talk about the PS6. PlayStation fan: WHAT 🗿

[@11Wario]

Leakers are talking ps6

[@Abnormal22]

Why are we talking about the ps6? We barely got anything for the ps5! What's going on?

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

@@Abnormal22 dont ask questions just consume product and get excited for next product

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

big facts

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@HPLovesCraftsCat na no one is asking for a PS6 this early

[@RunToTheHills999]

Good point. If PS5 Pro is 700$/800€ how much will PS6 cost? I undestand inflation or other reasons for higher prices, but Sony should realize thst these high prices are ultimately affecting the end user because we are the ones that actually have to take money put of our pokets.

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

This is beyond inflation... Normally Moore's Law means new tech gets cheaper to produce while it gets older, according to Sony's reason for the price lift for the PS5, costs of production is going up... I feel more like they saw what happened with the scalper situation and realized they could just raise the price themselves...

[@elbuglione]

PlayStation need to stop design new console and release new Games.

[@POIUYTREWQ62]

You act as if those are two separate things rather than similar / connected things.

[@tylere.8436]

​@@POIUYTREWQ62Whatever, new games are welcome

[@elbuglione]

@@POIUYTREWQ62 Noone wants a new Console... I just want a reason to buy it... I'm just regret to buy PS5 instead a new GPU.

[@Retro_Gamer_89]

They're broke because they lost that COD money 💰🤣

[@elbuglione]

@@Retro_Gamer_89 I never beat COD or GTA... I just dont like that. I want real good games like old PlayStation push.

[@brucevandermescht6957]

I couldn't give 2 shits about the PS6, I sold my PS5 last week and got a nice gaming rig instead. This gen both Sony and MS has completely lost me as a long time console gamer.

[@chris1229sonic]

Then why did you click on the video

[@CensorTube84]

Fanboys have officially ruined console gaming.

[@gabrielmcmillan]

Could you elaborate on that, please?

[@justinstewart3248]

I agree. They can just never be happy.

[@okayervin]

I think we learned from the ps5 that having backward compatibility isn’t everything. Having new games is 10x better

[@H4554Nx]

Guess no point buying the pro

[@KRSRK]

Why bother 4 years into its cycle ?

[@Carno_Yujia]

​@@KRSRKwith no games too 😂

[@Nihilisterplayz]

There really isn't tbh the difference is barebones

[@se7enity648]

If the PS6 does not have the option to read PS4/PS5 discs then I will not buy one. fact!

[@ch3micalromanc369]

💯

[@YouMissedAgainTimes32024]

It won't even have a disc drive 💀

[@SantianoBe]

I wish they'd go for Nvidia for the GPU. There is no real difference between Xbox and Playstation now, in terms of graphics

[@arunabhmahanta]

And I still haven’t bought a PS5 because there’s no “must have” games for the damn system! This console cycle has been such a joke, being cross generational with PS4 till 2024… Developers haven’t even fully cracked the PS5 architecture and taken full advantage of the console while Sony is preparing the PS6, are they really that out of touch? I want the PS5 generation to continue till at least 2030 until they’ve justified its existence.

[@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205]

Lol. People will hate me for this but it’s partly due to people not upgrading to PS5/Xbox Series that we have such a “problem” with so many cross gen games. Logically developers want to sell to the console with the bigger install base. And if the players refuse to upgrade, the games will continue to launch on last gen. Simple as that.

[@arunabhmahanta]

I bought the PS4 because Assassin’s Creed Unity was next gen only and it looked absolutely breathtaking, that was in 2014. Right after that I played Infamous Second Son + First Light, absolutely loved it. When Bloodborne, The Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 came out, my investment was already justified and everything else after it was icing on the cake. So, no, I don’t think it’s because of people not upgrading from PS4 to PS5 being the reason, it’s because there’s no “actual” desirable game to convince us to make the jump. Astro Bot is the best game PlayStation has released in 4 years and it isn’t designed to be a system seller. From the third-party side, only GTA VI can make people move from PS4 to PS5… but Sony themselves aren’t really making any system sellers. God of War Ragnarok was cross generational, nobody cares about Horizon Forbidden West aside from Industry people, and Spider-Man 2 was criticized for it’s lackluster story. All of this is coming from a PlayStation fan who spent his childhood playing PS2 games.

[@tylere.8436]

Covid had put a wrench in the cross generation I believe. That chaos put a lot of people on edge from lockdowns, so perhaps they just clung onto their PS4s and didn't really concern themselves with PS5.

[@davemangamer7365]

If PlayStation 6 comes out and it’s fully backwards compatible with a diss drive, even if it’s $1100 it will sell like hotcakes. If you only need one to play all PlayStation games they wouldn’t even have to make any more games as many games as where we have, it would sell like hotcakes, they couldn’t make enough of them to sell.

[@the_motherowl]

I don't feel the PS6 is needed because I don't even see a PS5 as a big upgrade from a PS4. For me this generation could go on for 10 years more.

[@chexs2000]

I'd say there is a huge difference between PS4 and PS5, especially loading times and steady 60 fps performance. But yeah, PS5 hasn't reached it's full potential yet. And here we are now having a PS5 Pro and now beginning to talk about PS6 🤦‍♂️

[@the_motherowl]

@@chexs2000 The faster loading times are a nice upgrade, but I don't feel like it screams "next gen". I find the controller a bigger chance than having an ssd. Oh well...the majority of consumers will always decide.

[@squirtle88]

PS5 was a huge leap forward in processing and the inclusion of an ultra fast SSD. But it was NOT a huge leap in terms of the amount of good exclusives on the console.

[@solidmage1720]

I think PS5 has more time and also think PS6 should be released in 2029 or 2030.

[@AyeYoYoYooo]

I’d gladly pay $1,111.11 USD, for a PS6 with a disc drive, that can play PS1/2/3 discs. And PS3 digital games, as well as the new PS6 disc/digital games. I’d gladly pay the adorably sequential price of $1,234.56 USD, For full disc-based & digital backwards compatibility with PS1/2/3/4/5 games, maybe even PSP/Vita games lol … on a PS6 with a disc drive. Plus tax. I think it would be a truly insane cost-saving measure (WHAT? SAVING???) on MARKETING budget for SONY …. …. Because every KZbinr and twitch streamer, TikToker/etc, with a very large back catalog of physical media, would FLOSS that PS6 and all that fully BC … and do that marketing for SONY … FOR FREE. SONY could re-invent “CROWD-sourced-console-marketing” …..to get back on top of the console wars after Nintendo sells a bajillion Switch2’s, and possibly breaks PS2’s sales record with the Switch1, at some point in early 2026.

[@zionsong2033]

Considering there was not many ps5 title games, i wonder wat ps6 gaming market going to look like..

[@xchxmpagnepxpix]

Are you talking only first party or??? Because there’s quite literally thousands of PS5 games..

[@tylere.8436]

​@xchxmpagnepxpix Under a thousand, actually. Of course, you have PS4 games to include, but people aren't going to buy PS5 in droves just to play those games.

[@Carno_Yujia]

Under a thousand and most are not generation defining titles. Unless you count easy trophy games as peak gameplay😂😂😂 this generation is absolutely 💩​@@xchxmpagnepxpix

[@silverian]

Choice of processor and its effects to the backwards compatibility was great reminder!

[@FortuneCookie187]

To all intelligent gamers, let me tell you something and try to think about it carefully for a second. I’ve bought the original PS5 disk version at launch with 1 extra controller and 1 game for 650€. Two months ago I had to buy a used PS5 for 250€ because my original PS5 broke and it didn’t make sense to repair it because believe it or not the motherboard just got fried. You understand how high the costs of sucha repair are. Now for the last 4 years I had to spend another 400€ for PS plus subscriptions just so I can play online multiplayer. And now I would have to spend an insane 800€ for a so called “PRO” upgrade just to have slightly better background graphics, no disk drive and ffs not even a stand included?! So basically I would have to spend atleast another 120€ for a disk drive just so I can play my physical games. Let’s now add everything up for the last 4 years and we get a whopping total of 2220€! My fellow gamer, do you know what kind of PC I can build with that amount of money? A kind of PC that will outperform the future PS6. So tell me do you think that KuSony made a good call by using this ridiculous and straight up predatory strategy or did they just convince loyal customers to finally make the switch to PC gaming?

[@Dragonfury3000]

I have a feeling ps5 will be the last Sony console I'll ever own.

[@NTsiya]

Mine too, consoles feel so pointless and Sony is full anti-consumer, I’ll just upgrade my PC

[@julieb3240]

I'm in the same boat. Hate the direction they're heading in. Might as well go PC with cheaper games, no online fees, and better future compatibility support.

[@UltimateSword1000]

Backwards compatibility is something very important to me! I wish we can get full backwards compatibility with all previous generation PlayStation games.

[@Mangomesh]

I think the pro should mean something. Why can't they make the Pro work with PS1 to PS5 discs?

[@Sponch1]

The current Disk drive can't read CDs, so even with emulation PS1 games would not work.

[@eyeofterra]

​@@Sponch1many BR drives are able to read CDs and DVDs they just have chosen to disable it.

[@Sponch1]

@@eyeofterra Yes many can, but the PS5 literally does not have the laser to read CDs, on for DVDs and BluRays

[@0007JO]

nope it needs a specific laser thet ps5 lacks

[@unicorntomboy9736]

It's easy for an armchair engineer to want these things

[@conductorquackers]

Who else agrees PS6 should be backwards compatible all the way to PS1? That would be a game changing console & would be well worth the money. Especially with Sony PS5 Pro being a big scam…

[@tylere.8436]

What should be isn't usually what shall be.

[@Centro-centro]

This generation only started last year in my opinion. People will not rush to buy PS6 or a new Xbox believe me

[@Doctor_Martain]

I purchased the PS5 with the disc drive when it was originally released. That was basically 4 years ago. My next upgrade will be to a gaming PC. The Playstation system got me back into gaming for sure, but it's time to make some different moves.

[@congcrab6360]

If Sony did make the ps6 fully backwards compatible ps5: No duh ps4: Still, no duh ps3: Amazing, that will get me to think about buying one ps2: The holy grail ps1: Cherry on top never going to happen though so... yeah.

[@retromario6130]

0:43 Reuters? 🤔

[@LabyrinthMole]

There is nothing worse than confident mispronunciation. I'd rather hear fingernails on a chalkboard... 🥶

[@jonathanchang2992]

I mean with the direction of the entire economy companies are pushing to save beyond anything. Seems people only want to care about spending a lot on AI to lead no where when they are flat out ignoring what they are asking for...

[@richardharrison1300]

I think we can safely look at the PS5 Pro as the PS6 Series S. Innovation has stagnated due to the costs. It’s a story told many times before. Look at Concorde (the plane, not the game).

[@mikel488]

I can’t believe we will get ps6 before gta6

[@2bstiff584]

when this PS6 comes out they still be making the new games work on PS4 so why buy it