MZTV 1650: What is Eonian Life?

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Martin Zender

Martin Zender

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@garrylaser1370
@garrylaser1370 8 сағат бұрын
At last it sinks in! Praise and thanks for this clear teaching. Thank you again for placing clarity as to immortality belonging to eonian life for believers and raised Israel types. You may not realize just how much this teaching has helped me - It is He who gives understanding when the time is right. All your responses to my questions have been tremendous - especially when we all need to agree at times that we have no answer to all we ask.
@SandyMiller-ep9tl
@SandyMiller-ep9tl 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you for asking these questions so succinctly dear brother🙏🏼💜
@JKBelle
@JKBelle 6 сағат бұрын
I believe it’s becoming crystal clear because we are almost there ⬆️ 🙌! MARANTHA
@whizchic6252
@whizchic6252 5 сағат бұрын
Gary, I learned many satisfactory answers to these same questions from the essays of E.H. Clayton, a fellow laborer of A.E. Knoch in the translation and compilation of the CLNT and OT. He was also a long time contributor to Unsearchable Riches, and many of his essays are on the Concordant Publishing website. The one in particular that speaks to the entrance of sin in God's creation, the Adversary's role in that, and the Adversary's motive is called "The Disruption: Plan or Judgement?" In challenging the Headship of Christ, the Adversary introduced doubt into the minds of many celestial beings who, before taking up his office as Adversary, had never before questioned this. They doubted God, just as Adam and Eve did....same lie, same MO. Thus, the celestials have the same need for that propitiatory shelter and temple system (as we know from Hebrews) that was given to Moses. I hope you can find Mr. Clayton's work, it takes some digging. He was actually the main translator from the Hebrew for the CL versions, a very smart man and great friend to Mr. Knoch.
@lenpaganelli1395
@lenpaganelli1395 6 сағат бұрын
Please pray for our brother, Gary Gilman. He is in heart bypass surgery today.
@Paula-yx2kc
@Paula-yx2kc 6 сағат бұрын
Will do! 🙏
@TheBiggestJesus
@TheBiggestJesus 6 сағат бұрын
Praying. Thanks for the info, Brother.
@lawrenceschuler9276
@lawrenceschuler9276 3 сағат бұрын
This video is truly edifying on many levels. Regarding what law might the spirit's have broken, pride in the form of questioning God comes to mind. However, we know God put that in them, as only He can create the first evil and through it accomish His ourpose and show His Glory.
@MatthewFisher-v1k
@MatthewFisher-v1k 7 сағат бұрын
MZ, Great explanations today. Thank you for sharing our two cents on heading up all in the Christ. Grace & Peace, a hug too, warm fuzzies all around M’s❤
@undergrace722
@undergrace722 8 сағат бұрын
☀Grace and Peace☀
@ClinToneCust23
@ClinToneCust23 7 сағат бұрын
❤Grace and Peace❤
@donaldkgarman296
@donaldkgarman296 8 сағат бұрын
GOOD MORNING BODY OF CHRIST
@ClinToneCust23
@ClinToneCust23 7 сағат бұрын
Morning ☕️
@JKBelle
@JKBelle 6 сағат бұрын
We have such an incredible future! I’m so excited 😆
@teejosh9550
@teejosh9550 8 сағат бұрын
Great message ❤🎉😊. Great questions from Gary as well. I'm glad I can always visit my family and loved ones after I'm snatched away. Please, provide the Bible verse/ verses on the screen. If anyone on this platform knows the Bible verse/verses, please provide it. Grace and Peace to everyone ❤
@SandyMiller-ep9tl
@SandyMiller-ep9tl 8 сағат бұрын
I too have asked on a couple channels for these same verses! So yes! Plz Martin🙏🏼💜
@teejosh9550
@teejosh9550 7 сағат бұрын
@@SandyMiller-ep9tl let us hope he brings it up tomorrow.
@ravenraven966
@ravenraven966 6 сағат бұрын
🕊️🤍
@patricialord6859
@patricialord6859 5 сағат бұрын
Good morning BOC❤
@JodyMcCann-x2d
@JodyMcCann-x2d 8 сағат бұрын
❤❤❤gmorn❤❤❤
@undergrace722
@undergrace722 8 сағат бұрын
🤍good morning 🤍
@GregUniRec
@GregUniRec 7 сағат бұрын
Beautiful teaching today Martin, thank you. I do have one question. You talked about those who survive the tribulation not being made immortal upon entering the millennium (I'm not talking about the 144,000). Does that mean that these tribulation survivors die at some point during the millennium? They won't have access to the log (tree) of life? Is the log even available during the millennium? It's mentioned in Rev.2:7 but not again until after the New Heavens & Earth are created. Rev 2:7 - "Who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit is saying to the ecclesias. "To the one who is *conquering* , to him will I be granting to be eating of the log of life which is in the center of the paradise of God."' This sounds like the ones who survive (conquer) the tribulation will be granted access. But... it also says that the log is in the "paradise of God", which sounds like the New Earth and/or the New Jerusalem. I know my question is a convoluted but I hope it makes sense.
@lawrenceschuler9276
@lawrenceschuler9276 3 сағат бұрын
My limited experience with AI has show...when you type in a descriptive sentence of something you want developed by AI, it really nails it...however whats truly fascinating is that in many cases if you enter precisely same information it creates an entirely different result that is just as incredibly accurate. I can only wonder if you do this 5 times...will you get back 5 different charts that quite accurately reflect your ideas?
@maryy2121
@maryy2121 5 сағат бұрын
❤️
@srvafool
@srvafool 7 сағат бұрын
That is a great question. I never thought about it in any other way but that, like satan, they were God's adversaries. His very being was opposed to God, and when they rebelled, they too were opposed to God. I think opposition to God is a sin. But, again, I never thought much about it?? Garry is a deep thinker...
@homebusinessdad101
@homebusinessdad101 4 минут бұрын
Great questions and great answers Martin. I have a few questions. The Israelite believers who inherit the earth in the 1,000 year kingdom. I understand during this time there will be the 12 apostles and the 144,000. So my question are 1) Is it only Israelites who believe in Jesus inhabiting the 1,000 year kingdom? Also you mention those that get through the tribulation will be living at this time. 2) Can these people be non believers ? 3) And who is the vast throng? 4) The people living outside Jerusalem during the 1,000 year reign such as in Australia, Europe, India, China - are these people the ones who got through the tribulation ? Are they believers or non believers?
@errettungdurchglauben-fait1850
@errettungdurchglauben-fait1850 5 сағат бұрын
"to the ages of the ages" in ylt
@Zedek_PhD
@Zedek_PhD 5 сағат бұрын
I still don’t understand how Satans Little Season fits into the timeline Martin. Anyway, good show as always.
@srvafool
@srvafool 7 сағат бұрын
Oops, you just touched on the length of eon 5. Never mind..... It's the "special" salvation we receive as believers (1 Timothy 4:10). We receive eonian life, everyone else gets eonian death. For thousands of years. Great job Martin. Which reminds me, can you do a video talking about the length of Eon 5? Even if it's saying there's no way we can know how long it is. I've read a few things about "all the generations of eons of the eons". I think the writer implied it to be a thousand generations??? Edit: "The Eon Nazi."
@TheGreatUnfoldingRobWile
@TheGreatUnfoldingRobWile 7 сағат бұрын
So the one's who are written in the Scroll of Life are just living in that last Eon (Eon 5) and not considered to be having eonian life? Just want to clarify Thanks Martin
@MadDogsandEnglishman
@MadDogsandEnglishman 11 минут бұрын
So Eonian life is immortality in the last 2 aeons?
@maryy2121
@maryy2121 Сағат бұрын
Actually I wonder so much if everything is okay with me cause when I hear about Pentecostal church or smth like that or that someone suggest me to return there that instantly giving me anxieties so much. I don’t know what to do with that anymore 🤦🏻‍♀️
@ClinToneCust23
@ClinToneCust23 7 сағат бұрын
Y’all can come back to earth if you want to, Imma stay in the celestials.. 😅 I’m kind of a home body.😅
@JKBelle
@JKBelle 6 сағат бұрын
lol 😆 😇 🛋️
@donaldhandy1060
@donaldhandy1060 8 сағат бұрын
It would be so wonderful if my aeonian life begins on the anniversary of my life in the flesh inauguration day At the last "Trump"
@iamdaynee
@iamdaynee 7 сағат бұрын
The Psalmist said, “You are gods; and all of you are Sons of the most High. But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes [of men]” (Psalm 82:6-7). This means that the heavenly “Sons of God” (of whom Christ was the Firstborn) can die. God can judge them for their wrongs and send them into a death-state. And though Christ (as the Firstborn) DID NOT SIN, the Father still judged Him when Christ carried our sins on His back. Recall that Christ died for us. This means Christ’s body, His soul and His spirit all died! So, spiritual beings from heaven can die (and they do die if God judges them as worthy of death).
@Zed-g2c
@Zed-g2c 4 сағат бұрын
I believe it's recorded in Philippians that He, the Celestial Christ, emptied Himself to be found in the image of a mortal man, Jesus. He checked His immortality card at the gate, willingly, so to speak. So, yes, He was able to die, completely and fully as He did - as a mortal being. As it's written in Hebrews 2:17 Whence He ought, in ALL things, to be made like the brethren God was with Him and working through Him. But Jesus was not God, nor immortal, nor some hybrid God-Man of Himself. Jesus was born a mortal being - fully. Fully emptied of His Celestial being. NOT a spirit being He had a spirit, the breath of life, as all mankind has. But He was NOT a spirit being. If you notice the shift and the tell in the account of the day after resurrection. The resurrected man, Jesus, could not be touched by a human UNTIL He'd ascended to the Father. He was still human - a mortal. Just as mortal as the resurrected Lazarus. He then ascended to the Father, and we find Him able to walk through doors and appear and disappear and say "TOUCH" Me... He'd been changed by the Father to immortal. The things "He" did on earth were not of Himself, but of God working through Him. Jesus says as much "On my own I can do nothing" Again, fully human as the brethren, fully dependent upon God. The Psalm you quoted is talking about humans, not spiritual beings or angels or messengers. We know this because that's how it's written, and that Jesus quotes this very passage to the Pharisees regarding themselves. Jesus says to the Pharisees "Is it not written that He calls you gods?" The Psalmist is speaking to people of a darkened nature who in the eyes of God were made as gods, yet they would suffer and die as mere men.
@robertlakey
@robertlakey 6 сағат бұрын
My view: Messengers "miss the mark" like humans in that - they "fall short of the glory of God". Humans both "sin" AND "fall short of the glory of God". Messengers just "fall short of the glory of God". They have no "law" and "where there is no law there is no sin".
@rubytuby6369
@rubytuby6369 7 сағат бұрын
Hi Martin, isn’t Jesus saying here that we have aionion life already? We listen to his teachings and we believe God who sent him. John 5:24 "In most solemn truth I tell you that he who listens to my teaching and believes Him who sent me, has the Life of the Ages, and does not come under judgement, but has passed over out of death into Life.
@robertlakey
@robertlakey 6 сағат бұрын
In my study I find seven eons made by Jesus, the Son of God (Hebrews 1:1-2). These are consecutive eons made for humanity's journey to immortality. All these eons end in judgment from God. First: Eon of the original creation ending in the disruption (called by scientists - the big bang) Second: From the restoration of the earth and creation of Adam to banishment from the garden of Eden. Third: Banishment to the flood. Fourth: After the flood to Babel Fifth: Begin with the dispersion of humanity from Babel and ends with the return of Jesus and the indignation of God being poured out on the kingdom of the antichrist. Sixth: The 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth ending in rebellion against that reign and the destruction of all mortals and the burning up of this present earth. Eons two through six last 7,000 years. Seventh: The resurrection of all unbelievers and the accounting to God before the Great White Throne ending in the second death and vivification of all unbelievers of prior eons. THEN comes the New Heaven and New Earth which I think is when the "oncoming eons" of Ephesians 2:7 takes place. I know what A. E. Knoch taught which you follow, but I just disagree as I read for myself the Scripture which outlines our journey to immortality!
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