N-EXT D-Thatch Information

N-Ext D-Thatch explanation of the mode of action and a submitted video by Chris Seagraves. This will give you the insights as to why this product should be part of your program and when to stop using it! Make sure to watch to the end to see the before and after pics.

[@joshbaker763]

I could seriously listen to this all day long. Between John and Allan and Pete I feel like I have so much more lawn knowledge than I ever thought existed.

[@CDAndrews]

Check out Matt at TheGrassFactor if you aren't already there already. His white board videos will blow your mind.

[@Lawncology]

Thank you Josh!

[@jarmor24]

definitely!!!

[@ubuntunewb]

Totally agree, all of those guys plus Matt have increased my geek of the lawn.

[@danielusm123]

@@Lawncology I may have messed up I just overseeded but forgot I had the dthatch. Can I apply this on top of the new seed or will it effect the germination of the new Arden 15 seed?

[@strumzi]

Perfect explication on how D-Thatch works. Only been using it since late spring ‘18 and just put an app down a few days ago. Gotta see it with own eyes. After a few apps just finger down in the grass and you see that dark-breaking down moist dead grass; that would otherwise be dry crunchy and preventing water and light from the growing grass.

[@RhuleBeans]

So I had a plastic mat on the lawn for 45 mins ( temp in the high 80’s) and it completely killed my grass in that spot. I was pissed at myself because we had just bought the home and this is my first lawn. I used the D-thatch on that spot without much optimism, but to my delight it has completely(well 80%) recovered. I am planning an overseed this fall and with the D-thatch, Are8 and RGS I cannot wait to see the results. I am not doing a mechanical aeration and I was concerned about the need for it but after seeing the results of just the Dthatch I am no longer worried about it. Thanks for all the help, your product are🔥🔥🔥

[@RhuleBeans]

I don’t know how to link a picture on KZbin but the before and after are only 11 days apart

[@josephmenditto9590]

Used this twice last summer on my Bermuda, had a very nice green within 6-8 hours both times. Good stuff!

[@TheLawnGuardian]

Great content, John! Excellent explanation of this product and about thatch! You do a very good job at explaining your products and general lawn care information in ways that most people will understand, no matter what level of expertise! Thank you for this information! I am hoping to get the bio-stimulant pack for use either this fall or next spring.

[@Lawncology]

The Lawn Guardian thank you so much!

[@tctulloch]

Great knowledge. I purchased the soil activator pack and threw down a combination of D-Thatch and Air8 over the weekend and with the heat we are getting, I'm hoping for good results. I have some before pics and will wait another day before taking more pics.

[@mrlepercon]

How did it go?

[@tctulloch]

@@mrlepercon it was very easy to throw down with the Ortho hose end sprayer. I also determined that I'm a slow walker, so I dialed it back to 2.5oz...lol This past weekend, I hit the entire yard with RGS and Air8 on Saturday, and then a round of D-Thatch on Sunday. I am aiming to overseed the back yard labor day weekend, so the timing just happened to line up. While I was in the back yard, I came across a area that was bare for a while. What is funny in the back yard that had a small bare area. I threw down some seed Months ago and it never took. Guess what? Those seeds started germinating some time after that first round of Air8/D-Thatch....

[@ColonelK0rn1]

Holy cow, that's very impressive grow in from a death spray. I wish I would have applied D-Thatch to all of the dead poa that grew in when winter killed off 60% of my yard from a late renovation. I've still got some thin areas, but for the most part 98% of my yard has grown in. I've got an area that I'm tossing my clippings into where it's devoid of mostly grass and weeds. Would D-Thatch help break those areas down quicker, or can I use blackstrap molasses? I've already got most of the NEX-T products on hand, and could hit it with some RGS & Humic 12.

[@kevinscott6372]

So this stuff works on dead grass clippings on top of soil also? I know today different then thatch. Will it help

[@lxiong1077]

Wow that’s pretty impressive turnaround in the last part of the video.

[@kennethklez]

I bought the BIO-STIM pack a month ago, when I go to overseed for my fall program what products from the bio-stim pack can I put down immediately right on top of the seed? Which will be the most beneficial for new seeds / germination.

[@edwardmiller6073]

yes I like a program- I live in NC state - I have zenith zoysia, I watch all three of you all.

[@johnathanpanico9749]

Do you have a program for long Island NY we have sandy well drained soil with a topsoil layer on top. We have cool season grasses. Thankyou for any help you can give me.

[@robbiegolding1831]

Wow amazing results. Will this help my at augustine grass as well? Obviously with standard dethatch not an option I was hoping to clear out some dead material to thick up problem areas

[@Ibelonged2Takeo]

how long does it take for the D-thatch to start to work? a few weeks?

[@cassondramurray6100]

Awesome case study!

[@denisbrisebois7658]

Amazing !!!

[@timbarton5316]

What AWSOME products that you have, I am a firm believer of the products that you have came out with, and also purchased your products and my lawn and soil thanks for coming up with AWSOME products, what type of rates did they apply for that video,

[@MrEverest1979]

Can't wait to try this out on the front yard. Going to tag team the lawn and soil with D-Thatch, RGS, Humic 12, and Air8 for about three months to see if this makes a difference in my hard pack clay soil. My soils is so compacted just plug aeration is doing nothing. I hope this works because I have been looking for something for a few years now.

[@Lawncology]

+Nicholas Eland take your time with it, you’ll notice differences relativiely quickly as you go through this. The moment the soil begins to loosen, the plants will take advantage and expand rooting.

[@5stardave]

Would D-Thatch work to jumpstart my compost pile?

[@chrisluckey2606]

John, thanks for the quick response. Sorry to be so anal, but to be more specific.can you purchase individual one gallon jug of dthatch or do you have to buy the one gallon as part of the build a box purchase? I have already purchased the bio-stim package as well as four gallons of green punch. I have a 4000 sq ft lawn so there is no way I will use more than one gallon of dthatch in a two year period. Thanks. Chris

[@FresYESLawnDude]

So by what you are saying D-Thatch can be used any time during spring summer and early fall. The idea is to take the extra thatch and assist with breaking it down and having it go into the ground. Is that accurate? I want to know because I think with what you are saying and what I am seeing in the video, I need to give this a go. Thanks

[@Lawncology]

FresYES Lawn Dude spot on Lawn Dude!

[@hhattingh]

Which of your products will encourage and assist Mycorrhizal development?

[@phillippride8951]

just bought the whole lineup from LCN, cant wait to see results when I start in the fall

[@phillippride8951]

I kind of get the negan vibe from john.... putting lawns in there place though

[@ezace7548]

You’ll like it

[@mark01a]

negan lol

[@bigredwag]

Just for clarity; this was two applications of dethatch within a thirty-day period, correct?

[@MrBigal123123]

id like to see before and after. maybe a comparison with and without on the same lawn?

[@edrumsas5420]

Is it recommended that D-Thatch be applied only in the hot summer months? In Michigan and we have had drought and wild swings in temps. - its late August now. - Is there still time to apply?

[@josephmenditto9590]

Can you let D-Thatch sit all day and water in the next morning?

[@MyDuckfoot]

John are your products available in Canada ?

[@jamrbarr]

Would a post-emergent herbicide application before,during, or after an application of D-Thatch have any effect on the efficacy of the D-Thatch?

[@Lawncology]

no issues there

[@cynshane]

Would this also work on a Composting pile?

[@customgrainsdesigns2226]

Would 1 application per year be beneficial or a waste?

[@kendelljackson8357]

Just received the bio stimulant pack along with some D-Thatch and want some advice regarding if they can be mixed with some herbicides and pesticides for 1 blanket spray on my centipede. Herbicides: Southern AG Atrazine, Image Herbicide Consumer Concentrate, Feritlome Liquid Sytemic Fungicide II Pesticides: Bayer Maxforce FLy Spot Bait Bifen I/T Thanks again for your help!!!

[@Lawncology]

Kendell Jackson go for it. It won’t be a problem but the solution could be thick. Just do a small test in your container first.

[@johnnyutah1053]

Does this not come in 1 gallon?

[@mattcondit356]

John, thoughts on waiting to water in Dethatch? Thinking about letting it sit for a day or two before running irrigation. Too long?

[@phillyb5761]

I’d like the answer to this as well

[@ibanezprestigeboy]

@lawncology, is there a minimum temperature to apply this product. I own it, but temps by my are still only in the 60’s. I don’t know if that’s too low.

[@Lawncology]

ibanezprestigeboy wait until temps are 75 or higher

[@infinityoutdoorsnc]

So John when you say you don’t have to keep using Dthatch, are you saying once a year in say July on fescue here in NC would be unnecessary to help remove thatch before overseeding? I’m currently running a full GCF program so with the low nitrogen I might not need it every year?

[@Lawncology]

NC Turf Pros LLC one is likely enough if you keep N low.

[@jeremybosch5305]

Amazing

[@ErikNaso]

Is D-Thatch available in smaller quantities other than 5 gallons? I have a small lawn only 1000 square feet total back and front. I did get the Bio Stim pack.

[@jessemiranda8329]

yes, you can get it through the Lawn Care Nut or through GCI Turf

[@ErikNaso]

I only found 5-gallon jugs for over $100. Sure would be nice to get maybe half that. I have a small yard.

[@ToddTinley]

It is available in 2.5 gallons but you are forced to buy it with other stuff that you already have in the Bio Stimulant pack. I have been asking them to sell this in a 1 Gallon or 2.5 Gallon size by itself for over a month with no response. Thanks Lawncology.

[@josecito976]

Erik Naso you’ll need several applications anyway depending on the thickness of the thatch layer to see results. I have applied it 3 times this year and it’s looking like I’m finally seeing some thinning of thatch. That 5 gal container goes a long way but you may end up using it several times You can also go half with your neighbor/fam member I doubt they’ll have smaller quantities because they’re just starting to sell to the general public. He has commented before they may offer smaller quantities in the future

[@ronedward3660]

You can find a different brand on Amazon that's 32oz for $25.

[@stevetellez6021]

Question...St Augustine. Texas heat...upper 90s this week. I heard you say early spring.. Early summer. I missed that window.. Bought bio stim pack in June. When is the best time to put down to catch up? I have a thick thatch layer. Lawn is making a great recovery. Love love the bio stim. Its best looking turf in years.

[@Lawncology]

GREAT time for humic is now and 002! Go ahead and get those out and start RGS when it cools down a bit. Say daytime highs of less than 85

[@stevetellez6021]

Lawncology I put those down 4 weeks ago. Hit it again? I read somewhere it's ok every 3 weeks at this time? Confirm We just had 100+ temps. Thank you sir

[@larrynewman9497]

Can D-thatch be applied with a garden hose sprayer as well as a backpack sprayer straight out of the jug with zero dilution?

[@ezace7548]

I wouldn’t recommend no dilution unless you want to run the risk of damage. There’s a reason why you dilute stuff down. I use D-Thatch on my Zoysia diluted out of a back pack sprayer on my personal yard. No problems

[@truckin00man]

Would D Thatch also help if a yard had a fertilizer burn, or no? Thx

[@Lawncology]

Charles N Charge it will help for sure

[@stopmytime9421]

Will the product not be as effective if I dilute the product with more water than the label says but still get the correct amount of product per sq feet

[@Lawncology]

thr33sum as long as you are getting the rate per 1000 out, it is effective no matter dilution.

[@tonytillmon2280]

When applying RGS, MicroGreene, and N-Charge, does it matter what the pH of the water is?

[@Lawncology]

the products will effect the pH of the water so, no it doesn't really matter.

[@tonyfalcone7212]

Do you believe in keeping a 1/2 inch thatch layer?

[@Lawncology]

Tony Falcone I believe 1/4-1/2” is the practical norm for nutrient cycling but it depends on grass type.

[@kblend7225]

Maybe a stupid question but. Instead of mecanical dethatching in fall is this something i can use.

[@Lawncology]

Kevin Taylor yes, that would be the point. Reduce other stresses and keep carbon and nutrients where it belongs.

[@earnie219]

Can I apply D-thatch after seeding a problem yard mix of TF and Zoysia with some bare spots due to some deficient soil? Don't want to harm what seed I'm using to fill out some bare spots...thanks

[@ezace7548]

Shouldn’t have any negative affect. The N in D-Thatch is so low. I use D-Thatch in my Zoysia Lawn (Florida) There’s not a whole lot you can mess up with Johns products. As always follow the label and go out with the lower rate first. However, do you really have a thatch problem if you have the need to “overseed and bare spots”? You can use the D Thatch but I would also recommend using the RGS to help improve soil quality. Obviously I can’t see the lawn your referring to but based on what you said, either one would be good just depends on what your trying to target.

[@earnie219]

@@ezace7548 That's good. I read further that D-Thatch was Ok with new seed. Yes i'm looking to get the soil prep'd before fall seeding and weed cleanup. I've really seen some good growth / rebound after having an issue with leaf spot in mid April in VA. The D-Thatch seemed to really make the TF respond with new growth after using it. About a week after Strobe / Triclopyr4 1st app of the year I saw new growth but the D-T really accentuated it in my opinion. I will use D-T on my Zoysia too ! Thanks for the reply.

[@ezace7548]

Kinda funny, as soon as Chris's video began and I saw the dead spots Immediately thought, "someone backpacked the crap out of that yard not only NOT the way you're supposed to backpack or "zone spray" but that they also used the wrong stuff and killed it. Good to know I was right before even hearing him say what happened. Good video btw John

[@josecito976]

I’m considering your D-Thatch product vs. investing in a power rake Have considerable heat stressed/dead KBG in my front lawn in addition to 1-1/2 of thatch layer. Plan to overseed in the fall but I need to reduce the amount of dead grass/thatch prior to doing so I know every lawn is its own ecosystem and results must vary but how soon do you see results as far as thatch reduction? And how late can you apply this product in the northeast? Many thanks

[@Lawncology]

Jose Flores the reaction is fast, but it sounds like you may need to do some mechanical unfortunately. If you applied two apps within 30 days, it will respond, maybe 50% reduction. Could be more, but moisture will help as well to break it faster

[@josecito976]

Lawncology thanks John. Great content. Placed my order through LCN

[@jeremykrentz9634]

Should this product be avoided if I have Leafspot? Ie will it feed the fungus? Thanks!

[@jeremykrentz9634]

I’m back a year later with the same question still. Any thoughts? Thanks!

[@strumzi]

In my own observation it simply supercharges the existing beneficial composting bacteria. And I bet it will work speeding up compost piles for gardeners.

[@Lawncology]

strumzi wonderful observation and you are correct about compost piles

[@mavcpr]

john-----do you need to water in rgs---air8----humic and green punch..if so when? meaning right after or 72 hrs later--tx or when?

[@Lawncology]

mark vanuch go ahead and water right after app. 5 minutes is enough to push it down

[@trentburns1753]

What about D-Thatch?

[@mikenorton3377]

hey greetings from down in the valley from you.

[@ubuntunewb]

Thoughts about applying d-thatch to a new seed bed before tillage, that I recently nuked with glyphosate? It's not a lawn but food plot getting rid of weeds for deer food plot.

[@Lawncology]

great idea

[@ubuntunewb]

Lawncology does d-thatch mix with glyphosate?

[@Lawncology]

only if its been drinking, otherwise those two don't hang out often... JK, its fine to mix

[@crestonburks9953]

My lawn is pretty bad. Can I apply dethatch now(mid july) and again about a week before my first fall rehab?

[@Lawncology]

+Creston Burks yes you can

[@crestonburks9953]

@@Lawncology one last question...if I'm using Air 8 and D-thatch, should I apply at the sane time or a day/week/month apart? If so, which first?

[@kmcclanahan2063]

Newcomer here....Tried to look for an answer to my question but could find one. In your video, you mention that D-Thatch works best in heat? If so, would mid-summer be a good time to D-Thatch? I am in Colorado.

[@Lawncology]

+K McClanahan yes it would be ideal. Late May through August.

[@kmcclanahan2063]

Thanks much!!

[@samuelasamoah6906]

Can it also be used on golf course greens

[@Lawncology]

+Samuel Asamoah yes

[@stokedsmokebbq789]

How much does it cost $

[@jrobforever]

are LawnCare Nut and GCT turf the only places I can buy N-Ext Products?

[@Lawncology]

yes they are. these guys are busy creating content and educating people on the uses of the products. these are the two online stores available for DIY purchases

[@x2100]

Lawncology will we be able to buy 1 gallon D-Thatch individually in the future? Or maybe even in a two pack. Currently we can buy four one gallon packs.

[@lou8891]

I'm planning on useing an preemergant this spring. Will a application of detach disrupt the pre emergent

[@Lawncology]

Lou Lillman it will not. Go ahead and hit it!

[@lou8891]

@@Lawncology sounds good I literally just ordered my bio stimulant package. I'm planning on running normal rates. So with one gallon jug I should be able to cover 20000 square feet??

[@Lawncology]

Lou Lillman you are correct

[@arttully7982]

when applying D-THATCH does it matter what the height of the grass is?

[@Lawncology]

Art Tully shorter is better but not required.

[@milanjurich1526]

If you guys use a liquid application from Biogreen USA, they’ll automatically throw in D-thatch in with their fertilizer applications when it’s hot out. Doesn’t mean you can’t periodically supplement with fertilizer apps, etc. but live your life and enjoy the turf.

[@arttully7982]

how long before you see results from D-THATCH?

[@Lawncology]

Art Tully if the environment is cooperating, you’ll see a difference in 7-14 days. If it’s cool or overly thick, it will take longer. The action is fast.

[@hdmoviesource]

So, can you explain whats happening here? Is the molasses giving life to "extra" bacteria and that bacteria can also eat toxins and poisons? Generally what is happening here?

[@Lawncology]

here it is: the sugars (molasses) feed certain bacteria, namely yeasts, we also add yeasts, a little N, Humic, and a few other goodies that energize the composters. Heat plays a roll in faster reproduction when all the items are together and exposed to the environment. As far as toxins and poisons, there are bacteria that does that, but that's not what's happening here.

[@brandonb6327]

Lawncology my lawn is recovering from heat stress, some parts are dormant. Is de-thatch okay to throw down now? Should I water it in after the application or let it stand without water?

[@Lawncology]

go ahead and hit it and water it in

[@brandonb6327]

Lawncology thanks! Should I run it Solo or add in RGS?

[@jessemiranda8329]

add RGS or Air 8. It will all help your lawn

[@Levvoo59]

You mentioned that certain turf shouldn't be manually dethatched. What turf types are you referencing?

[@koomo801]

jon chamberlain I’m not John of Lawncology, but I’m guessing Bermuda is one you wouldn’t want to manually dethatch. You’ll end up pulling most of the healthy grass out by the runners and end up with nearly bare dirt.

[@michaelabbate4367]

St. Augustine as well

[@Grassology-vs1hn]

Hi john, can I just use air8 instead of dethatch ? How much is the dethatch gallon?

[@Lawncology]

Grassology4610 are you trying to digest thatch or loosen soil?

[@Grassology-vs1hn]

Lawncology , loosen soil. Can I buy that dethatch product through GC company?

[@Lawncology]

our bottled material is through LCN and GCI, thats where you'd need to go. Professional use, contact Greene County Directly

[@Grassology-vs1hn]

Lawncology , I've been using this product on my lawn this season and man my lawn is so thick it's so hard to cut it at 3.5 I went up to 4.5 but my wife likes it at 3.5 and I'm dominating my whole block.thanks man !

[@stopmytime9421]

Can I seed after putting d thatch down?

[@Lawncology]

thr33sum go for it! It will only help

[@louisrodriguez4550]

Excellent content. Off to Lawn Care Nut I go for my pack.

[@louisrodriguez4550]

jhi1947 are you the Mexican?

[@jonmalkowvich6967]

How can I get in your program ?

[@jhi1947]

Write a 10k check.

[@TheGrassFactor]

jhi1947 what?

[@Lawncology]

Shoot me an email, [e-mail]

[@josecito976]

The Grass Factor ignore, this guy is a troll. Provides nothing in the way of a productive conversation

[@MoparSmith1]

So, if you toast your yard with herbicide don't try to fix it with nitrogen. Assuming your grass can self repair, soil amendments are the best way to help it do that.

[@earnie219]

It's ok for new seed....I read below....lol

[@chrisluckey2606]

Please make D-Thatch in a 1 gallon jug.

[@Lawncology]

chris Luckey dthatch is available in a one gallon jug. Greenecountyfert.com/DIY

[@ChrisXCXCX]

Work on St Augustine?

[@Lawncology]

ChrisXCXCX absolutely

[@ChrisXCXCX]

@@LawncologyI got stolen over stolen from mowing too high with a semi dwarf cultivar.. It looks good visually but is very spongy.

[@Lawncology]

ChrisXCXCX it will take multiple apps, but will definitely take it down

[@ChrisXCXCX]

I wanna see that. I'm a PCO in Florida. Will be interesting to see.

[@Lawncology]

ChrisXCXCX shoot me your contact info [e-mail] we do a ton of business in FL

[@ubuntunewb]

No coffee, no good morning, geez...

[@Lawncology]

haha! You're right! Where's the consistency!?

[@1wildwackywoman]

Pig weed

[@uberwebd9824]

Dead grass is not thatch

[@Lawncology]

You are correct. It is what many people refer to as thatch. It is litter.

[@chrisluckey2606]

John, thanks for the quick response. Sorry to be so anal, but to be more specific.can you purchase individual one gallon jugs of dthatch or do you have to buy the one gallon as part of the build a box purchase? I have already purchased the bio-stim package as well as four gallons of green punch. I have a 4000 sq ft lawn so there is no way I will use more than one gallon of dthatch in a two year period. Thanks. Chris

[@Lawncology]

chris Luckey unfortunately no, you’d need a four pack, but using RGS, Air8, dthatch, and microgreene would Be a good combo.