N Gauge Shunting / Switching Layout Part 1 Concept and Design

[@grahamsouthamn9798]

Mike Thank you for this video, I am still doing OO but I have been trying to get a n layout going. I have had Peco code 55 track from when I did N, but with age I find it hard to use. I have come round to the idea of Kato track, not cheap down here in Aust but as this is a longer range project it can be done bit by bit. Looking forward to your continuation of this layout. Cheers from Aust😀

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks, good luck with it. Im finding Kato has several benefits over peco

[@ronaldchapman4830]

Great video I would like to see how you power your points and what power unit you use That's a video on its own Cheers

[@BudgetModelRailways]

It's planned when we get a chance, I will try to do one when I power this up

[@ronaldchapman4830]

I look forward to see that video

[@AgenoriaModelTrains]

I like it when exhibitions put a layout where the viewing public can get hands on and operate for themselves. I went to one last week near where I live in the West Midlands and this lovely couple made an oval layout from second hand materials and plastic kits for buildings. They also created a micro layout above their main one that was held upside down and the trains were running upside down without falling off. I was amazed. They were also allowing kids to get stuck in and activate the trains on both layouts, including the upside down one which they loved. I'm glad to see more exhibitions are encouraging this sort of thing. Your Japanese layout is nice to see especially with so much British, American and European layouts dominating the exhibition scene.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@AgenoriaModelTrains upside down sounds wonderful

[@PaulJohnson-zw4ef]

All ways take notice of your videos because you tell thing that I want to know so keep the good work

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks, will do!

[@robertkirby4179]

Thank you, I have to strip my 00 pay out down for building work on the house, I had a lot of N track I was given a few years ago never knew what to do with it, but with your idea brilliant. Don't do much.with model railways like I used to do, did exhibit with my mate 30 years ago but life got in the way,. So now you are giving me the kick up the rear to start I have all the timber in my workshop 1800 mms x 250 mm. Seems gone are the days of cardboard for the base board, I never did try that. Keep up the giving to the new generation of railway modelers. 👍👍🙏

[@hadynmcloughlin4661]

Great little concept going the Japanese route, I have struggled to find a theme for my first N gauge layout but picked up some Peco back scenes in N so that will prompt to create a theme or 'town' with similar colours and period. I also just grabbed a Tomix diesel shunter that is a great little runner at a brilliant price.

[@GregPotter-ln4pl]

Looking very interesting, I like the idea of the japanese setting🙂👍

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@GregPotter-ln4pl it makes sense given I have lots of Japanese Locomotives and rolling stock, researching is proving challenging though

[@michaela21212]

I like your longer videos, Always interesting 👍

[@dibsyardshuntinglayout]

Still with you at 13 minutes in, Mike! Sounds a great idea. Looking forward to seeing this evolve.

[@mrp3077]

So my favourite youtuber has finally taken the plunge going fully into Japanese N-scale! As you say, it's cheap and reliable. It's also in many ways easy, with many easy assembly (or already assembled) building kits and two highly reliable track systems that allow people to set up a layout and have trains running within a few minutes. In keeping with the budget theme I want to recommend Greenmax kit item number 2137 which includes 6 Japanese family homes. It's only about 1520 yen, less than £8, at my favourite seller Hobbysearch. For viewers wanting to know more about Japanese N-scale I can recommend the JNS forum. Buying straight from Japan is often the cheapest, as long as the shipping costs are spread out over many items. Also for getting access to more than a small fraction of available products it's a must, as most manufactures don't have any overseas resellers at all. I'm looking forward to follow the construction of this layout!

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks, I will take a look at the forum, very helpful

[@mrp3077]

@@BudgetModelRailways If you were to make a layout thread on the JNS Forum to post your video updates of the layout build in, I'm sure there will be interest. I'm the guy at the forum building 75x26cm layouts and storing them in an IKEA Billy bookcase. When you stated the dimensions of the build and talked about storage, I couldn't help but thinking that I would have built it in two modules and stored it inside an IKEA Billy. 🙂

[@richardtarr2745]

Great concept, I know you love your shunting puzzle layouts and if you manage to pass some of that love to the next generation then good for you. I know nothing about Kato stuff apart from what I've learned from you, so I look forward to seeing how this one develops.

[@bugler75]

Great video, looking forward to seeing the progress 👍🏼

[@BudgetModelRailways]

You and me both!

[@bugler75]

@@BudgetModelRailways 😊👍🏼

[@HushabyeValleyRailroad]

Brilliant, looking forward too seeing it develop. Love your videos, keep up the amazing work.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks, will do!

[@PaulStirk]

Look forward to seeing your progress

[@davidsheriff8989]

This giives me the idea to use 3 upside down drawers...

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@davidsheriff8989 that would work, neat idea

[@christopherbraiden6713]

Thanks for the video Mike, I'm doing a Japanese kato layout myself looking forward too seeing yours progress!!😎🚂🚃🚃🚃🇬🇧

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Have fun!

[@martinhall60]

Hello from Hull in the East Riding of Yorkshire. What a great shunting video idea to use Japanese rolling stock. Looking forward to seeing how it progresses. 👍🚂

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks

[@brettany_renee_blatchley]

This layout is a nice, graceful stretch for an Inglenook; I'm looking forward to see how you scenic it! Blessings & Joy from Roanke VA, USA 😊💜

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@brettany_renee_blatchley thanks, all the best

[@TheRobertLcollins]

I imagine that's going to stand out at shows over there. I think that's also an ideal size for a North American Inglenook layout. I'm curious to see how it turns out. Best of luck with it!

[@jercsgn]

Looking good already! I just got into this hobby and uploaded videos too.

[@LJRLowevilleJunctionRailroad]

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing 🙂

[@railway187]

Interesting design 👍

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@billsholl7904]

I like the idea of a "have a go" layout - hopefully it will inspire more people to build their own layout.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@billsholl7904 thank you, that's my hope

[@Andy001z]

Love the idea.

[@Batesandrw]

Lovely layout. 😊

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks so much! 😊

[@stevenjones19-m8i]

Hello,what a brilliant layour,its bigger than the previous one.cant wait to see the updates on this.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

Thanks

[@alandavis5950]

Firstly, will N scale wagons and couplings be too light and fiddly for young fingers? Also, on that note, what do you use to weight your tiny wagons? Liking your intention though. Lets get more young people on board with this rewarding and engaging hobby!

[@BudgetModelRailways]

The concept wasn't aimed at just children, hopefully also older people. Biggest growth in model railways is returning older modellers. I use cheap weights from ebay, although the Kato Wagons are fine without them. I don't find shunting in N any harder than OO personally

[@andygorman858]

A great start! I picked up some Kato Japanese buildings cheap on a visit along with the GreenMax kits as well. Will this be a more rural Japan setting or closer to the main cities? Look forward to any updates when they come out 😉

[@McFadyenAerospace]

Your UK themed layouts are smaller than I could typically do as I model North American railways which use longer wagons, so I’m really interested in how this one progresses. I am starting to really like the Inglenook layouts - simple, but still interesting to operate for a session or two.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

With 9 Wagons there is something like 3k plus combinations of Wagons, so many hours of interest are possible

[@VestedUTuber]

I'm surprised people still think that switching/shunting operations are impossible in N. The club I go to does full prototypical operations with N scale, and it works... mostly well (it tends to break down when the guy who runs the first train of the day brings a pair of beat-up, out of gauge SD70s from the 80s and then tries to pull a drag freight up through Red Rock PA with them while running along 30 year old track that's been beat to hell and back, but once he's clear everything works well). We even have these short 20-foot ore hoppers we run - now, those don't get actively rearranged as they're a unit train, but they do have their own challenges.

[@paulbrennan3760]

Can’t believe you’re having to break up the shed layout. That’s been fantastic watching you develop that one.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@paulbrennan3760 it needs serious upgrading and insulating, which sadly means removing the layout, it was never designed to be taken apart

[@paulbrennan3760]

@@BudgetModelRailways such a shame. But as you say. It needs to be dry and secure or all the good work is wasted

[@thunderccr5056]

Hiya, regarding storage, could you use rare earth magnets to magnetise the building’s to the base board? Then it could fit under a bed etc? Thanks for the videos, they are a great inspiration! Regards.

[@crasher303]

I was also caught out by length of Kato V3 Yard switching expansion. But it is great track.

[@JohnDavis-ik6ve]

I’ve changed from UK N to Japanese as the locos and rolling stock are not expensive and reliable runners. Looking forward to the progress of the layout

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@JohnDavis-ik6ve I had the same problem with UK N, poor runners and much more expensive than Japanese N

[@chrissouthgate4554]

Hi, for ideas on Japanese scenics, KZbin has a number of ride-along videos. For more detailed views Google Maps Street View & Satellite can be a big help. Hope this helps.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

That's great thanks

[@johncourtneidge]

Thank-you!

[@EnglishVeteran]

What is an inglenook shunting layout? Looks interesting, but what is the concept please?

[@BudgetModelRailways]

I have a few videos on them. Basically you use a card system to pick Wagons at random and shunt them into order. It only needs two points but gives almost endless shunting potential

[@thepacerman]

i do like a good inglenook, but with that length you could get a much more enjoyable shunting layout with a few more points

[@BudgetModelRailways]

It would then need a seperate fiddle yard so would be bigger, especially with the length of kato points

[@thepacerman]

@@BudgetModelRailways not necessarily, i have made a layout of a similar size using peco large radius points without the need of a separate fiddle yard

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@thepacerman I like the simplicity of the inglenook

[@thepacerman]

@@BudgetModelRailways ah, makes sense

[@BudgetModelRailways]

You are quite right, I could do more with the space, but the concept is for a simple layout to let people have a go at exhibitions, if it were me, as you say, then probably more sidings

[@canuckprogressive.3435]

The longer the better...

[@dickygeemusic]

So, are you loft and shed layouts now finished with?

[@BudgetModelRailways]

The shed needs structural work which means removing the layout, it will then be rebuilt as N Gauge but it's long term project. The loft is long gone, either too hot or too cold. It currently has an O test layout on it

[@Weesel71]

Japanese is a good choice. I don't think you'll find as many armchair experts to be critical, plus it's different and that adds to interest for all.

[@methaneman4045]

I’ve been modelling and exhibiting Japanese N layouts for some years now. If you’re trailing back through Continental Modeller magazines you might have come across Katami, Katamitu and my current layout Ishinaka. Agree with you that the Japanese stock is high quality and very reasonably priced.

[@BudgetModelRailways]

I will take a look at those, any suggestions please on best place to find info, I would like to get the look right, especially the colours on the buildings etc

[@methaneman4045]

@@BudgetModelRailways relevant photos and pictures on Google are useful. The Kato, Tomix and especially the Tomytec building kits are excellent and come mainly self coloured needing only a bit of weathering

[@methaneman4045]

I’ve used film and photos on Google. The building kits from Kato, Tomix and especially Tomytec are excellent and are mainly self coloured needing only some light weathering

[@BudgetModelRailways]

@@methaneman4045 thanks

[@methaneman4045]

Ikve been