N Scale 4-brand Locomotive showdown! Modern F3/F7 comparison & buyers' guide!

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Rust & Rivets

Rust & Rivets

Күн бұрын

Here's an in-depth guide of the top 4 brands producing the venerable F-unit locomotives in recent years. Covers differences in quality, detail, paint, mechanicals and extra features such as lighting and DCC!
Grab a hot cocoa and sit back, we're gonna go wheels-to-wheels on these beauties and see what's REALLY under those shiny plastic shells!
Like & subscribe to catch more RnR content! Happy holidays, everyone!

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@Tipman2OOO
@Tipman2OOO Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing I don't know why nobody else has so plainly broken down the differences on the brands
@monarchco
@monarchco 3 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see scaletrains do locomotives that aren't just new ones. I don't think they should venture into steam yet, but I'd love to see stuff like E8s and GG1s and prototypes like a sharknose, or centipede.
@lyndonfoster1090
@lyndonfoster1090 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated the differences between brands and within brands. I hope you do many more.
@ronhart4166
@ronhart4166 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see your layouts and MORE videos from your channel !!!! Your attention to detailed instruction and audio is the best I have found anywhere !!! IMOP Merry Christmas to you and yours also. Thanks for sharing 🚂
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
Ron, I've got two more vids to upload just this week! It's winter up here and with my fingers finally working again after that snowblower tried to take them, I'm darn excited to be rolling back into the yard with plenty of entertainment boxcars in tow. Thank you so much for watching!
@djl9154
@djl9154 Жыл бұрын
Nice practical review, much appreciated. Thank You.
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, I do my best! Thank YOU for watching!
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
Hey folks! KZbin is slow to process HD, but it'll be available today and you can see detail better on all these locos! Thank you all, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
@JBG1968
@JBG1968 4 ай бұрын
Just got a latest run of the Intermountain F7 in Pennsy green . The detail is even a little better and the number boards light up very nice now
@hobbyking5364
@hobbyking5364 7 ай бұрын
You answered my questions, good video.
@davidbarr9343
@davidbarr9343 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I live in UK but love North American Locomotives.👏😊
@mistered1397
@mistered1397 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your tutorials. I really do enjoy them. I have some locomotives that I need to clean, and lube. This gives me a more informed process to follow. Keep up the good work. 🚂🚃🚃🚃
@Wolfie6020
@Wolfie6020 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very detailed review. Most of my N-Scale locos are KATO with self installed Digitrax decoders. They have been running as smooth as silk for over a decade. I like the sound on the BLI too. Maybe time to update
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 10 ай бұрын
BLM has sound and details, Kato is a rock, good but not BLM. Also 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
@graceanddiscovery5612
@graceanddiscovery5612 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff unique look at details.
@bernardc2553
@bernardc2553 Жыл бұрын
Just ran across your channel Good review Great Job ..yah Its STILL that Christmas spirit Season so Merry Post Christmas lol
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays! All of them! And thank you :)
@Eleven10
@Eleven10 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this video- lots of great, clear info. I only have a couple Kato locomotives for now but absolutely love them for the reasons you’ve stated. Have you tried any of the scale trains offerings? I’m curious how you would rank them in this mix
@N-Scale
@N-Scale Жыл бұрын
Nice Comparison !!!
@oohwhop716
@oohwhop716 8 ай бұрын
Very pretty trains
@paulmcmahon1129
@paulmcmahon1129 Жыл бұрын
Nice reviews: thanks for taking the time to show how they all differ. Horses for courses?
@Steve_Larson
@Steve_Larson Жыл бұрын
Great video. I see you are running Atlas C65 True Track, how do you like it? I would have went with C65, but number 5 turnouts were not available when I built my layout, so I went with Atlas C55.
@praprotnikphilippe6640
@praprotnikphilippe6640 6 ай бұрын
thank you very much. have you been able to switch the shells of kato and bli f units?
@mdavid1955
@mdavid1955 10 ай бұрын
Very informative. What kind of DCC system are you using?
@TheyCallHimDietSeth
@TheyCallHimDietSeth Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this video- you've got a new sub! Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge on these models! You mentioned correct lubrication of the Intermountain locomotive at one point... could you make a video on the proper way to lubricate N scale locomotives?
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing strip & lube vids on some of the major steam & diesel locos on the market! There's no universal formula, and there's no one single correct way. Buckle up, I'll be dropping the first two strip & lube vids over the next couple days; one for Atlas GP7/9 units, one for Intermountain!
@TheyCallHimDietSeth
@TheyCallHimDietSeth Жыл бұрын
@@rustnrivets sounds great, looking forward to seeing them! And understood- I’ve been in model railroading long enough to know that there isn’t a one-size-fits-all for any aspect of the hobby!
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
@@TheyCallHimDietSeth Amen to that. Which is why these 101 videos are the most fun to make! Sure I could do a 5 minute lube video, but then you'd be left to figure out all the breaking points and weird mechanical quirks on your own! The strip-down and lube videos are like half an hour each haha
@Stanf954
@Stanf954 Жыл бұрын
Kato for reliability and BLI for detail level. Intermountain is a runner up. Need to show the Atlas Silver or Golg Series
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
The Atlas Silver & Gold are just a slight upgrade to Atlas Classic (getting the slow speed motor), but they sure did step up detail paint quality with those lines too! Will be great for a later video on differences between runs :)
@CentralJerseyRailfan
@CentralJerseyRailfan 3 ай бұрын
@@rustnrivetsAtlas Master. Both the Master and Classic lines have Gold and Silver variants
@MP-oh5eo
@MP-oh5eo Жыл бұрын
ins't that a gorgeous NP passenger set in the background at the end of your video ? 😎
@mollycaz1
@mollycaz1 Жыл бұрын
What is a good starter set
@elleryparsons2433
@elleryparsons2433 Жыл бұрын
If I had A Choice I would Get them All. But in Bn Soo Line Santa Fe And Great Northern.
@bernardmueller5676
@bernardmueller5676 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I wish you had shown how to open them, i.e. take the shell off.
@g.w.7893
@g.w.7893 Жыл бұрын
Throw Rapido into the mix next time;)
@davebnsfnscale4433
@davebnsfnscale4433 Жыл бұрын
Who makes Micro Trains F units?
@mysticrailroad
@mysticrailroad Жыл бұрын
I'm going with BLI ABA set. :)
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
Would love to see them! Share them on the Facebook page? FB.me/RustNRivets
@tommythomason6187
@tommythomason6187 Жыл бұрын
What does BLi stand for? Never heard of it. The other brands, I'm familiar with.
@OwenBudd1
@OwenBudd1 9 ай бұрын
Broadway Limited Imports
@tommythomason6187
@tommythomason6187 9 ай бұрын
@@OwenBudd1 Thanks, I appreciate it.
@petert9749
@petert9749 Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed that - at 20 past 2 in the morning. Spending too much time watching Utube. Not sure of the current situation with spares, but historically Kato's spare parts service stood them out wonderfully. Most importantly brushes were obtainable (see Dave Ramirez kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2a6YauvZ7iAr68 Why didn't that go blue?). It means a loco lasts longer than its first set of brushes. Also, replacement motors can be obtained when magnets weaken. I have no experience with the very latest productions of N scale, but the Kato/Atlas pick-up system has historically been a winner. The weight of the loco kept the contacts between the trucks and the chassis touching, and the spring system did not crush or weaken. Hopefully the other three locos are as good as historical Kato and Atlas, and hopefully Kato and Atlas are not slipping. Long my spares be obtainable. Many of the folk who rely on these models to brighten up their lives are unable to service them. Trouble-free running and serviceability matter; and mostly they matter because of the challenging circumstances of many of the owners. Shall keep an eye on your channel and occasionally bore the fur off you. We who read have a responsibility to contribute at least something. Be encouraged: Peter
@elleryparsons2433
@elleryparsons2433 Жыл бұрын
I’m Not too Heavy In Dcc Dc Yes.
@bcsferromodelismo3822
@bcsferromodelismo3822 Жыл бұрын
🇧🇷🚂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@bobkohl6779
@bobkohl6779 5 ай бұрын
Want great detailing go HO! 😉
@Bnsfmodler
@Bnsfmodler Жыл бұрын
Bachmann and bli are The same brand
@jasonsharpe6505
@jasonsharpe6505 Жыл бұрын
Which loco is most likely to melt?..... Broadway limited 😂
@rustnrivets
@rustnrivets Жыл бұрын
I've personally had failures from every brand above... I had a Kato motor seize after 30 mins out of box, and melt the motor saddle. Bad bearing. I agree/understand it hurts more when the price tag is so high, but BLI has been making regular runs and honoring warranties from what I hear, and they've grown their market share significantly in a time that Intermoutain's production has stagnated and Bachmann seems to be sleeping. I'm not averse to running them all into the ground in a grudge match, maybe that would make an interesting video!
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 10 ай бұрын
Broadway limited end of video.
@Supernover1000
@Supernover1000 10 ай бұрын
Sry but the best are clearly minitrix Fleischmann and kato.. Fleischmann is piko minitrix is märklin the details are the best of the best .. kato has the best tram (in n scale)
@owenlaprath4135
@owenlaprath4135 8 ай бұрын
Fleischmann is NOT to be confused with Piko, but actually made by Roco, and they were bought out by Roco many years ago. Roco has been making good long lasting N-gear gear since the 90s, but I cannot vouch for their earlier production. The always safe bet until the 90s was Arnold! Old Arnold was not always the prettiest or truest looking, but they ran flawlessly, which I cannot say some of my older Minitrix locomotives, which often stuttered along and needed full power to run. Arnold is now a Hornby brand, nothing to do with the old German models, but they are nice! Piko is a former East Germany (i.e. GDR) company that was privatised. They make very nice gear on the mid and upper end, but also have simplified entry level trains in G, H0, and N-scales at amazing prices nobody else offers. I have N and H0 Piko locomotives and am quite happy with them. Bachmann cannot hold a candle to anybody else, especially since their price advantage is gone. Bachmann costs as much or more than Kato as of maybe 10 years ago, so I know where my money is going (NOT to Bachmann).
@robertrussell2166
@robertrussell2166 Жыл бұрын
It’s Kato versus junk. BLIs F units are complete junk from horrible drives to incorrect dimensions.
@JBG1968
@JBG1968 4 ай бұрын
I have a few intermountains and they have been / are running very well for me . One of them for almost 20 years now
@RR-or5ip
@RR-or5ip Жыл бұрын
The sound o this video is terrible and nearly impossible to hear
@OwenBudd1
@OwenBudd1 9 ай бұрын
No problem with the sound at all, maybe check your speakers/volume.
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