The Undying: Exploring Immortality Methods in the Fallout Universe

[@georgesears934]

Surprised you didn't mention the robobrains/Professor Calvert/Think Tank under the "mechanically assisted stasis" category. Or give brains its own separate category.

[@The-Singularity-X01]

Technically the robobrains aren't people anymore, just organic processing units. Remember the 'person' that was once in that brain gets zapped away.

[@toddferrullo1871]

A few things that you did not mention are robotics like the Robobrains and Think Tank, Synths, Super Mutants and possibly Conrad Kellogg.

[@ThtOtherJess]

Would Synths really qualify? While it may look or think like you you will still face oblivion when your meat suit runs out of health even if the synth keeps synth-ing. If you are more referring to Nick or similar who develop individual personalities outside of their “provided data” I could see that but I’d imagine a synth wouldn’t “seek out” prolonged life as they already possess it.

[@ShirakiAkarin]

"You're scared of oblivion, but not the game", it really got me lmao.

[@twistedyogert]

If consciousness does indeed cease once the brain dies then so does someone's awareness regarding the passing of time.

[@brandonadkins9435]

Great video! There’s room for a sequel including FEV affected people like Harold and Fawkes , and the “brains in jars” like the scientists of Big MT.

[@starfoxBR77]

Man, your story-telling skill are good. If you cover any IRL content in the future I would definitely watch.

[@SalusFuturistics]

I love that it's Canon that the Sole Survivor is immortal now with the Serum they presumably will continue to get from Lorenzo.

[@Anyone00TZ]

The immortality that comes with ghoulification should come with several * : ghouls will eventually develop the aches and pains of old age (though the Bethesda games don't go into much) and the eventuality of going feral is constantly hanging over their heads. In Fallout 2 there's Private Dobbs who was frozen in bio med gel to see how well that works for cryogenic preservation: it did not work out well. Also in 2 is Chuck Stodgers who was somehow preserved from the fumes in a uranium mine; he was a Buck Rogers reference and is very much a Wild Wasteland type encounter.

[@clinetime2022]

I always like the Disney joke about bradburtons head being frozen

[@totallytubular618]

You missed: 1. Medical gel suspension- Think Tank, Robo-Brains, etc 2. Forced Evolutionary Virus

[@totallytubular618]

@@JasonBourne-lt6oo ...Harold is still a mutant human who has human organs. It's still a method of immortality.

[@ChrisVillagomez]

I wonder if the Fallout idea of Ghouls was inspired by Deadpool

[@concept5631]

Ghouls really do represent humanity's presistance even against the most hopeless and horrifying of odds.

[@SpikedKirby]

There is a way that immortality could've been achieved without any drawbacks. Get a gen 3 synth, transfer your memories into it using the loungers, and repeat as needed. Its not even clear if Synths age in FO4, so you might only need to do it once

[@nomadwolfox2140]

thats not immortality, thats transferring a human soul from one ship to another lol.

[@Chris_Sizemore]

@@nomadwolfox2140 That isn't even transferring the soul. What you're doing is creating a synth duplicate of yourself. If you ever wanted a twin this is a way to accomplish that. And if you have a bad personality, your synth twin could very easily kill and take your place. Cloning isn't a method of immortality, the clones live. That doesn't help you at all.

[@TheFirstDarkKnight]

Another method of note very similar to cryogenics that wasn't mentioned was the hypersleep capsules that sofia daguerre was in up in space.

[@concept5631]

Isn't that what House used to prolong his life?

[@desertdude540]

Dehumanize yourself and face to becoming a strip of jerky in a glorified cigar tube located in a casino basement.

[@tinaherr3856]

What about the Deep Sleep program from Fallout 76? The astronaut Sofia was kept in a non-cryo stasis while in space

[@swahny802]

1. I love your story telling 2. Why do only some ghouls become normal like? The rest attack and kill.

[@jomckellan]

All ghouls eventually go feral.

[@concept5631]

If Ghouls absorb enough radiation (though even then there are exceptions) and/or their mental state becomes irreversibly damaged (i.e. traumatized) they become Feral Ghouls.

[@mlmii1933]

The ghouls themselves don't understand why some go feral and others don't but it's a very real possibility that all ghouls will eventually go feral. Makes the BoS and Diamond City's position on ghouls much more reasonable.

[@thatguy913]

We don’t have a cannon reason for why ghouls go feral. We’ve heard a few theories like increased radiation or being alone for to long. In fallout NV we get to see a glowing one that’s still smart so I’d doubt it’s solely rads. the Doctor in underworld said to even become a ghoul requires rads and he thinks some other unidentified factor to not just die instead. I think it’s having the right genetics and not going feral requires really really lucky genes.

[@KenwrathKDK]

Im mad because the show used what i always wanted to do in a fallout game where if i wanted i could start out as a ghoul who survives the bomb and becomes a bounty hunter as a character for the show… But damn it if Cooper isnt my favorite character in the series

[@harrietwheelie]

Is the "underworld doctor" named Natasha, perhaps?

[@Martdogg3000]

The fate of Ray Bradburton freaks me out, it'd be such hell.

[@ineptitude]

One thing I wonder about: is Conrad Kellogg immortal (before the PC kills him)? How many bits of him have been replaced? Could the Institute replace those again & again?? Are *Synths* immortal and if so is Conrad basically a Synth????

[@FezMooseLive]

They explain in game that its implants. Probably stuff that creates new cells to replace old cells. Kellogg even has the parts on him

[@mlmii1933]

Kellogg's life extension was originally a cut plot where Father was lying about being Shaun ... but that was cut very early as I understand it and in the released story he's probably not truly unaging, but his life has been greatly extended. However we know that Synths have to age by default simply due to the fact that thier missions to replace human beings would fail otherwise.

[@mlmii1933]

@robertothesupermutant830 ... The Institute discards thier experiments once they are done with them; so "won't grow up" simply means the synth won't be allowed to live long enough to do so.

[@Snowman794]

Synths could potentially provide a version of immortality too, though it depends on how you look at it. Nick Valentine's brain was scanned pre-war and then transferred into a synth, so a version of Nick lived on even if it wasn't the original. Synth Nick could be immortal for as long as he can be repaired, though he may run into memory issues similar to DiMA.

[@thatguy913]

I don’t think that counts because your own personal continuity still ends while a copy of you lives on. You don’t get to be immortal just a copy of your consciousness

[@emie7275]

wooo!! love your videos dude!!

[@kamerongrossi3471]

Hey Norte, you gonna try starfield when it comes out?

[@sidunivers2sid844]

Your channel is amazing

[@k9vendettathewolfofmordor529]

You don't really lose your humanity as a ghoul until you go feral

[@mlmii1933]

Maybe, but the fact that you are aware that you are almost certainly going to go feral at some unknown point in the future is going to cause mental trauma and change a person.

[@thatguy913]

I don’t think all ghouls even go feral. In NV and 4 we see a glowing one who is still normal. If he’s not feral after enough radiation to be a glowing one I’d doubt he ever will. Especially because rads heal them and they pump that stuff out. Any damage to the brain is probably healed immediately

[@vex8535]

you forgot to mention minerva’s guard named ten toes ):

[@o80y1]

Personally, I’m scared of The Shivering Isles 😱

[@WolfesBane615]

If obsidian made FO4 we'd be able to take Brad Burtons head with us to get infinite Nuka Cola and recipes

[@JanoschNr1]

I mean ... it's never said word by word to grqant one immortality for eternity, it only lets them live longer ... and infact the fallout 4 DLC we have 1 Ghul turning ferral ... and she was from the pre war times. The Show Wizard was devistated to find that out. (Just remembered it's called magician)

[@thomasscott6252]

No, Jauffre scares me.

[@devinvaldesalice7427]

Prologue-nation, huh?

[@anthonyjohnstone695]

Prolongation

[@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953]

What about RoboBrains? And why couldn't they put Bradburtons head into a Robobrain? Or is that post war tech?

[@tonystrange4304]

Kelling as well in cyborg category

[@CraigSteinhoff]

So I thought ghouls where a by product of radiaition and FEV combined.

[@FezMooseLive]

Nope, just radiation. You are thinking if Harold, who was a ghoul that fell into a pit of FEV and grew a tree out of his head. Ghouls simply exist due to being soaked with Rads. Thats a basic as I can put it though.

[@mlmii1933]

​@@FezMooseLive... Also not everyone becomes a ghoul even when exposed to the same rad doses so there is probably a genetic factor as well.

[@FezMooseLive]

@@mlmii1933 Yep, they either die, become a ghoul, or a feral ghoul. Personally I think I'd rather die, cause I've heard all ghouls go feral at some point.

[@thatguy913]

I’m pretty sure FEV just kills highly irradiated things. They don’t mix very well which is why the master wanted people from vaults

[@itsskyler98]

I never understood the need and want to be immortal. Like I don't crave to watch the world be destroyed around me. That or watch love ones die

[@poorlydrawnwizard]

I am in fact scared of The Elder Scroll IV Oblivion

[@stevenbolen]

Just be the courier

[@realbkg]

Ok is the guy narrating awake

[@Shiftysnow]

Yeah I wish he would put some enthusiasm into his voice...

[@yucon_man]

Or you could just be flagged as essential, checkmate time.

[@rico-fs1cr]

Why do people say that you can achieve digital immortality? It's just a machine succeeding at pretending being you. SOMA discusses this really well.

[@David-pf3he]

will you make videos like this on starfield when it comes out ?

[@jacobbradley5629]

Omg you didn’t put x type of immortality, disliked, unsubbed, and reported

[@Wckjbcwby]

Very early this time

[@hazcat640]

N_orte, You are using 'humanity' incorrectly. Humanity refers to the spiritual being. "understanding and kindness towards other people: show/display humanity If only he would show/display a little humanity for once." The word you are searching for is Corporeal: "physical and not spiritual" and is the word you should be using. Ghouls can lose their humanity (go feral) but they do not have to to be ghouls. Simply losing their 'looks' does not entail losing their humanity but does to some extent affect their corporeal presence.

[@the_real_riki]

~tgm

[@funrun07haan50]

Oef

[@IanCookUS]

"proLONGation," not "prolognation"

[@therealamon]

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@canis2020]

Seventh!

[@SalmonClock]

Fallout Is the greatest