NA Miata vs Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am 峠 Touge BATTLE Uphill & Downhill [POV Canyon Run]

[@highwaydashy]

Despite being on a similar pace, the Miata footage looks like all of the ass is being hauled, while the Pontiac's footage looks like a peaceful sunday cruise. Goes to show you can't really trust video to feel how fast someone is.

[@patw9175]

Miatas are always working hard that's why they're so damn fun.

[@redslate]

The footage doesn't do them justice; these cars are flying.

[@JETZcorp]

This effect is real. I had GoPro footage of my riding a trail on 2 different dirt bikes, one little kids bike and a real MX bike. The footage from the little bike looked wicked fast. I was sure it had to be faster due to the greater agility and bla bla bla. I put them side by side in editing and the MX bike absolutely obliterated it, even though the footage looks and sounds completely tame.

[@FemboyMotorworks]

This video shows that muscle cars can also touge with the right setup!

[@50nollieman]

Really impressed on that firebird. Not gonna lie I thought the miata was gonna slowly walk away on the downhill but man I was wrong

[@xanderfpv2629]

I'm sure on a home course it would've

[@nicholasmelzo5928]

I bet if the mx5 knew the road like homie in the firebird. He would win without a dought. How ever firebird is not one to wrecken with lol and for an automatic lmao.

[@undonebaton1835]

A firebird is basically a camaro and camaro's have always handled really well.

[@JETZcorp]

​@@undonebaton1835 The key is down-hill. Down-hill Touge really favors light cars without too much weight in the front. That's why Keiichi Tsuchiya's AE86 is able to gap any GT-R (stock or tuned!) in the down-hill touge, and an MR2 Spyder walked away from him. Up-hill the small cars get taken to slaughter, of course. But, route familiarity, driver talent, and kickass tires can overcome technical advantages pretty quick in real life. I know for a fact my NC Miata is faster in a downhill run than my buddy's 4.6 Mustang, but I can't get away from him. Partly because he's a better driver, and partly because he's willing to drive with the brake pedal faded all the way to the carpet, and I'm not.

[@undonebaton1835]

@@JETZcorp Those are some very good points, thanks for the info. I believe experience is one of the most important things, you cant make up for that with just a few mods. Fun is meant to be had in any car.

[@rainbowrailroadcrossing7798]

WHY IS THIS SO UNDERATED!!!! I FOUND MY NEW AESTHETIC!!! American muscle touge should be more popular!

[@redslate]

Ram Air hood and Volante intake is a potent combo. The pairing puts to shame every fake hood scoop ever placed on a production car.

[@jimmysway3240]

Muscle car touge has been on my mind lately but to see it in action is amazing 🖤

[@JarrydJunkin]

That Firebird owner is pretty impressive. Also keep up the great videos

[@tougerunner2964]

I see you've stumbled across my home course on this side of the valley, maybe I'll see you up there one of these nights.

[@expeditionjay]

The ls1 f-bodies were underrated from the factory as to not take attention and sales away from corvette even though they had the same engines and transmissions, they made the same hp as the vette at 350 hp regardless of what the advertised rating was. My trans am made 308 at the wheels on a dyno bone stock and that was normal that people were discovering on the forums back in the early 2000s. They were good handling cars too. The drivetrains are set behind the front suspension giving the car a near 50/50 weight distribution. Back in the day on the street these cars were direct competitors with the Toyota supras and were very popular in the American street racing scene. I think it was the popularity of the fast and furious movies and the animes like initial d and midnight wangan that popularised the jdm scene that led to these cars being overshadowed by the jdm legends. These cars had a lot going for them and are worthy of respect.

[@fixeduzx73]

I saw the plate in the front windshield 🧐 lol no worries... Love all the videos!! I live next to “Sand” and used to drive Wilson, GMR, all of Malibu, etc... I miss this so much. I still get a run in occasionally when my cars aren’t being shitty... Keep up the amazing content, maybe see you around one day/night, but I do NOT want any smoke lol 😂

[@andersonjukebox8315]

Pontiac bro! Im setting up my 04 GTO to be "touge" spec too! I got IRS, but an extra 400 pounds compared to the WS6. Sweet vid.

[@sigmareviews]

My builds also around the 3400 lbs mark but is a Mercedes, wanna talk builds some time?

[@Cango1]

Man I always wanna go for a run After watching your Videos ✌😅 Im curious tho, what cams do you use for recording?

[@RidgeChaser]

Thank you! I use a GoPro Hero 7 and 4.

[@Cango1]

@@RidgeChaser thanks mate ✌

[@nicholasmelzo5928]

This was a dope run. I very much enjoyed this. Initial D RL. Keep up. The good work.

[@DatMat]

B-b-bUT aMeRiCAn cAr sO iT cANt hAnDLe

[@Rory695]

If they're under 3500 lbs they're workable imo maybe not as nimble but like this and the 4th gen mustang, muscle thats not crazy boaty can be tuned for the touge

[@4g6_miragecolorado00]

Did not expect that from the trans am.. nice

[@2jzprevia]

I do this with mine lol, it's so much fun, mine is 6 speed tho, subframe connectors and front control arms is the only thing I need!

[@thetuber705]

20 minutes of touge! a dream come true

[@FlatCirclee]

Almost 10 k subs! Any plans for big achievement?

[@RidgeChaser]

10k Sub special coming soon u shall see!

[@williamvolkmann8658]

wow now this is a real battle over time .. good job

[@yuchenliu6939]

Firebird: I'm about to sleep. Miata: I am getting HIGH!

[@kz_fist]

18:15 my butt was fully clenched holy shit

[@backpain4]

That was a fun match up!

[@RidgeChaser]

Yessir thank you for helping out!!

[@Mike1997nfs]

How do you guys deal with traffic at nightruns where you parcially to full cross the centerline on blind corners You've said you wanted to make a vid about that in one of your previous Videos and im highly anticipating it :D

[@RaffleReefer10]

Look for headlights - especially if the road has reflectors. Also going in the opposite lane on entry and late apexing helps make double laning slightly safer.

[@patrykrog8121]

@@RaffleReefer10 Seeing as you also do it. What if there is a pedestrian ? I understand going fast but isnt it better to drive the whole road slow and then leaving someone at the end to make sure no people go onto the road or most importantly police?

[@Wzrd8]

@@patrykrog8121 Hopefully you can find a road that has no side walks, driveways, or intersections. Some where that only serves as a connection between small towns where other routes would be more traveled. That alone really cuts down all of those worries. No ones walking that at any time of day. Traffic is limited to people that both need to travel between those two points and live some where that makes it faster to take your route. There are only so many officers and they would rather camp higher traffic routes for tickets unless the locals have been making too many runs and the word has spread. Always scout your touges during the day and at speeds you wouldn't get pulled over for. Map them and try to figure out how heavy traffic is during all time periods. Finding out at 3am the touge is a commuters territory for an hour can really suck. Knowing this can give you a good guess at if and when police pay attention to that area. Mark a clear start and finish spot where you can safely park and turn around that keeps the route clear of three things at the top. You've got your self a spot. Though I've never been a part of a group that did any thing like this. You could get friends to post up at corners you think could use a spotter. They can just flash a blue or red light to say clear or oncoming. That way you don't need to worry about it. In my exp it was just bombing canyons and occasionally try not to crash into another idiot going the same way doing the same thing. Pretty damn fun.

[@patrykrog8121]

@@Wzrd8 yh i got friends that do it but i would be too scared to do it myself. The roads where i live are so good but no where is rural enough and there is a lot of police at all times. There is a lot of people racing here and some people always complain and the police now know where the best roads are and just wait there and then the other roads are not worth going to

[@thanhbeach814]

If anyone was subscribed to built. His channel got deleted but he made a new one. Share with everyone. Wouldn't have known if it weren't for TheStradman.

[@MrZyLeXx]

Man, imagine if they had the same tires!

[@abracing199]

Crazy how a ws6 on 500tw tires can hang with a miata on 200tw.

[@sukhoisu-3778]

Mmmm. Ace Combat music-

[@Wzrd8]

When it gets laid down on the touge you have to respect it. Not just driven, but slapped down with an audible thwack. Muscles cars can touge.

[@jesussallopez]

That was cool

[@goyslayer5505]

Trying to find the best tog spot in my area, really flat so just looking for roads with little to no houses. Any tips?

[@RidgeChaser]

Google Earth is your friend!

[@Mr.LT1]

F BODY TOUGE GANG

[@iliveinthewoods]

PITIFUL!

[@thaxtondill]

Hicks road is so beat

[@rjplaystatio7174]

Wish i could do a vid with you guys! im in victoria bc canada and we have tons of good roads for touges up here! me and my buddys (before they moved) use to set lap times on local roads in our RX8's if your ever in the area HMU!

[@josemartin3630]

Are you going to put a Big Ass Wing on you miata? So that it has more aerodynamics