‘Naïve’ to think Russia will lose war, says Dr Jordan Peterson

Notions that the Russians are going to lose the war in Ukraine are “naïve,” says clinical psychologist Dr Jordan Peterson.
“Or that we’re going to win,” he said.
“I don’t understand that. What do you mean we’re going to win? What are we going to win here exactly?
Dr Peterson said even if Vladimir Putin allowed Russia to retreat from Ukraine, the country would be left in “smoking ruins”.

[@dred8616]

The fact that JP is considered controversial demonstrates just how lost our society is.

[@bengarbutt6497]

It's more that he talks a lot without actually saying anything.

[@Amy-tg7tu]

@@bengarbutt6497 just say you’re too simple minded to understand what he’s saying and carry on

[@saimbhat6243]

He just talks in psychology terms. I am sure he assumes he knows what is going on in other people's mind. His psychoanalysis of anything and everything is intellectual adultery.

[@tigertough5164]

@@bengarbutt6497 do words with too many letters hurt your brain?

[@saimbhat6243]

@@bengarbutt6497 Yeah, his abstractions and psychoanalysis are vulgar. Ask him what is an apple: and listen to the fifty ways of how to confuse people about what is apple.

[@Ureckon]

Im back from the future to tell everyone he was right.

[@willietorben560]

The present disagrees.

[@Ureckon]

@@willietorben560 you in denial.

[@blubblubwhat]

Its unbelievable how lucky we were 2 winters that where mild this winter is the mildest begging of a year in record.. U think we will stay this lucky? Maybe sombody will returne after another 2 years to tell us if we survived the lrise of energy.

[@automatedrussianbot8043]

ukrobraainwash was wrong? im shocked

[@michaelmaher9022]

No he wasn't !

[@MrUntapishtim]

One year later: Peterson was right! Using ones brain is called controversial today.

[@davidthompson1369]

I don't know about controversial but it's certainly racist and misogynist!

[@Gris00]

*Disgruntled zombie noises* "Must go back to my Social worker to get my truth" -Today's society

[@marijnnn4992]

I mean hé has said alot of stupid stuff bud hé is richt sometimes never agreed whit anyone being controversial anyways

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

How was he right? It’s a stalemate

[@Gris00]

@@xXAlmdudlerXx it's not a stalemate, Russia has taken the land it wanted and is now holding it. Russia is on the defensive now

[@jaylooppworld381]

This aged like fine wine

[@willietorben560]

Always does.

[@royk7712]

JP is always ahead of its time.

[@hamidhamidi3134]

How Come ? Winter came and gone now of his dooms and gloom turned out to be true.

[@GUMMRUCHK]

@@hamidhamidi3134 Wrong.

[@user-wc7bb4cc9w]

@@hamidhamidi3134 So far, dooms and gloom turned out to be true for Ukraine. Dunno how long this war is gonna take, but every year and every winter the desperation for Ukrainians will only grow.

[@jolitamark812]

I listened to Putins speech and he doesn't threatened with nuclear weapons,he only said that if some country will attack with one there will be the same answer. I speak Russian and media's "translation " far from truth.

[@remove574]

That sounds more believable.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Well when the clip is playing the subtitles are accurate when I watched it on fox, but then it was spun as a “threat” and “not bluffing”. But the translation I saw was along the lines of “those that would threaten us with nuclear weapons should know the winds can change” or something along those lines.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

Of course their "translation" is far from the truth. They're trying to push a "righteous defense" narrative on the general public even though NATO (and by extension the UN) has been pushing themselves into Ukraine's sphere of influence - understandably making the Russians nervous given their history.

[@sharpshooter_Aus]

I didn’t know the western media had the ability to corrupt all these Russian KZbinrs who have posted the same video. Fuck the media must be more powerful than the CIA.

[@adrianfleming5754]

MORGAN ONLY HEARD UN N NATO HIGHLIGHTS

[@makalo]

If only team Zelensky could stop bombarding every news video with bot comments then I think we would somehow find peace 😆

[@GMan-yg1og]

😂😂

[@dankmatter3068]

“team Zelensky” 💀

[@karisdavid2598]

puitin had many changes for peace and kept escalating. now over 15% of the DPR male populations are dead. the ukraine was never going to be able to enter europe, but russia decided to escalate in 2014 anyway, after their puppet leader was overthrown, by invading crimea and gas-lighting the donbass. as a result, the conversations became one about nato too, and the ukraine would struggle massively to enter that in it's pre-2022 situation

[@cgmaster]

@@karisdavid2598 what was Maidan anything but escalation?!?!?!

[@karisdavid2598]

@@cgmaster especially by the russians. the ousted leader was russian puppet

[@pathfindercl]

"He's terrifying his people" And tell me, my young padawan, what are the european goverments doing right now?

[@tannhauser5399]

@patfindercl - I know that it was rhetorical question, but stil. What they are doing? Spending money, and also making it. Look at the latest contracts from BAE systems in UK. War is good for business, always has been (even old timer Major General Smedley D. Butler was vocal about it long time ago). And check the profits of other similar corporations, and also military contractors.

[@nish0905]

50 countries can't win against one country

[@davidthompson1369]

50 divisible countries united in their atheism against one smaller country indivisible and united under God. The result was never in question.

[@tustak]

@@davidthompson1369 One Dictatorship. Even if Russia would win and it would become peace from war, no one is free under Putin. So no point stop fighting.

[@garrettfulks2932]

@@davidthompson1369”United in their atheism,” most western countries are majority Christian.

[@ennuied]

@@garrettfulks2932 but it means nothing, religion is there to control the mob.

[@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq]

Russia retreating after making captured territory a part of the Russian Federation? No way.

[@tuckstar]

It's nice to see Piers not overtalking a guest and just listening for a change

[@samimtokhy9312]

Thinking he may have been a little intimidated by JP

[@theinquisitor7191]

We didn't listen! 😂

[@sarisigmund2115]

Not in the beginning, only at the end, when he really couldn’t dispute what the guest was stating.

[@Stardestroy]

JP is very experienced in the art of debating. I'm not surprised that Piers realized he was outclassed here.

[@lovelysix6296]

I think this is one of the rare cases where Piers actually has some level of respect and admiration for the guest. How could you not? Dr. Peterson is not politically motivated. He speaks out of knowledge, experience and evidence.

[@elihu217qd5150]

Politicians only start the war, they leave the fighting to the poor.

[@princeamu]

Barz

[@MadisonSquareGardendidJFK]

Not politicians German US chase bank they did JFK 9/11

[@dilligafwoftam985]

... and the cost.

[@iroc341]

HMM, that would make a good song !

[@jessepiazza2106]

deep bro

[@ww5302]

I agree with Jordan Peterson Russia will never allowed to lose this war in Ukraine that's why we will have to sooner or later find some kind of peaceful resolution

[@Aramiji994]

Unfortunately you are wrong, the West has completely lost its creditworthiness with the Russians and the global south due to their own arrogance. The war will end when Ukraine surrenders(peaceful), which I highly doubt, the propaganda of the West has so refined its propaganda machine that many who live there don't even know what's going on. It's so good that even Putin said that the Russians have no chance against the West when it comes to propaganda. So, if Ukraine doesn't want to surrender, then everyone can imagine how it will end.

[@davidwong7283]

This video is 1 year ago . He predicted well .

[@ww5302]

@davidwong7283 That's why Supreme Leader Justin Trudeau tried to destroy J.Peterson career.

[@VIPER276]

​​@@davidwong7283 I mean it was pretty obvious. the only reason people fought otherwise was because the Russian weren't for long war at that time.

[@serhiybakhshyyan10]

There is no peaceful solution to this, because he wants everything (not only Ukraine). He needs this peace desperately to recover from wounds and go ahead again. Don't be naive.

[@AnnitaLize]

It's March 2024, let's see how many legends are watching this incredible vid 💖

[@remove574]

The doctors last line let’s us all know how the worlds leaders think, “that’s just poor people”.

[@naginurlan6542]

I recon that also but I think he said it with sarcasm referring to that slogan of rich to get rid of people on this planet

[@bluelotus7824]

@@naginurlan6542 Yes the whole environmentalist movement tells us there are too many people on the planet. What they are saying, then, is they need to remove a large chunk of the world's population to save the planet. Any volunteers?

[@georgecaspira3637]

Scary right, see how fast these wars end when you wipe out the top of the tree elites.

[@immortaljanus]

"You will eat zhe bugs und you will be heppy..."

[@shawnsmith5028]

WEF calls them "useless" people.

[@keithsmith9833]

This is why he is vilified, he speaks his mind even when it is painful to hear. When the truth dies, so does freedom.

[@erichamilton5932]

Peterson brings up "Cancel culture" as an example of totalitarianism, in other words: He brings up the _west_ and Morgan ignores it and responds with....and the Russian people will be lied too.

[@078691]

He isn’t vilified for speaking his mind - if u listened to most western military analysts they could of told you a lot of what he said months ago. He is vilified for being a merchant of doubt and using his psychological analysis to make what appear to be shock statements on any subject to further his book sales and for personal gain. In this case somewhat becoming a Putin apologist and making the public cast doubt on responding the way the allies have is the right thing to do! Which by the way - of course the right thing to do (win or lose) is to make this as hard & painful for Putin to do to discourage him or other countries from doing it again.

[@johnroush1099]

I really wish people who share his worldviews would stop unjustly martyring him just because they share his viewpoints. Reality is, he's said a lot of stupid things and people have called him on it. Part of free speech is allowing others the opportunity to dissect it. So many people wanna bubblewrap themselves from any criticism.

[@laustudie]

he is vilified because he's a total idiot to be honest.

[@andrabook8758]

he is not villified....he is just disrespected. And that's bc he keep brown nosing criminals and psychopaths.

[@martinkay4158]

Piers: "A bit of Hitler in everyone? Really?" Peterson: ( Stunned by the depth of folly in yet another soul )

[@paulstebbings9481]

Yes he is right … Hitler rebelled against the sanctions that were killing millions of Germans causing destitution starvation … so you tell me that YOU wouldn’t rebell against seeing your daughter son wife father or mother dying of starvation? Of course you would ! You would be a coward to your own soul and being if you did not fight for your family … expand this out to an entire nation .! So you think that Bidens treatment of Americans is not causing starvation etc ..? This is what Peterson is saying absolutely correctly … there is a piece of Hitler in everyone..! I think you need to examine your conscience on sanctions for example …? Is this not a form of totalitarianism dictatorship ..? Of course it is … when Biden says and Bush says ‘this is what we do to someone who we don’t like’’ is this not hitler impersonated … Was it Americans who are the only nation to actually use nukes in the world … let me think … ah yes the ONLY nation! To have used them to kill 100,000’s of civilians … hmmm a bit of Hitler …? More than a bit of Hitler ..!

[@wout4yt]

Meaningless dribble

[@anonymike8280]

@@wout4yt The word is "drivel". Not "dribble". Drivel.

[@milwaukeechris4603]

​@@anonymike8280😂😂

[@TheGreatLlamaJockey]

@@anonymike8280speaking of dribbling Jordan has got some ankle breakers in his arguments and he’s right, everyone has a capacity for evil.

[@DODO-vy6sf]

2024 Germany in deep trouble after cutting off the cheap Russian gas. Meanwhile, Russia built another massive pipeline to China, and the gas prices hit the roof.

[@bmsuperstar1]

Dr Peterson managed the impossible. He educated this ignorant host, and taught him that he should stfu and let his guests talk without interruption.

[@darthgardner]

well said big thumbs up !

[@ItortIsawapuddycat]

Go to sleep old man . Oh you already are . !!!

[@innocentbystander8038]

Lol was thinking just that

[@someoneout-there2165]

Honey .. you're tired. Go for a rest. 🤣🤣

[@berenscott8999]

Hell yeah, I think Peterson was giving so many good sound bytes, that he had no choice but to shut the fuck up and let it happen. He was like, if I interrupt him, then I'm going to get less. Oh wells, let him rip. And boy did he rip. We've got a sound byte of 350 million poor people dying over winter.

[@michaelfewster4604]

“It’s not that they love the planet but they hate humanity” no greater truth

[@PrimatoFortunato]

What truth is second in the top ten greatest ever? I'm honestly curious.

[@19aries81]

True and terrifying

[@christinalynn8143]

Who???

[@rjfox9372]

Ukraine is pretty easy to hate, fighting losing wars out of hate. The people hate Zelen right about now, being forced to stay in warzones like the Nazis in WW2... All that unnecessary death and destruction because of one man's foolish stubbornness. Imagine... This is why half their country is already destroyed, and the rest will collapse under the weight of snow this winter... This is why Europe is financially crumbling over their own useless brainwashing and racism... Simply uneducated people, unfit for the modern age. You don't know truth, you just slap your opinion on things you don't research. Pathetic.

[@KermitFrazierdotcom]

Eric Blair knew what it was to Wash Dishes in Paris for the Scraps of Food on the Plates.

[@nicktrevi2990]

Some people keep treating a nuclear superpower as if it were Iraq or Libia.

[@seanmusona9408]

@Fidd88 it’s naive to think putin will lose while having all those nuclear war heads , he’ll use them if he has to

[@davidturczak7253]

@Fidd88 Russia will eventually leave ukrain but leaving the country looking like a pile of saw dust . While Russia citizens go about there business shopping at target . That what ukrain winning looks like in the future it already half way there . 😂 😂

[@mariooss]

Superpower my ass

[@milwaukeechris4603]

​@@davidturczak7253😂😂

[@graemebuchan1919]

You know they were a nuclear power last time the country collapsed? when the west was sending aid to keep the Russians alive

[@sunnyrobinson2128]

Here a year later Dr Peterson nailed it 👀

[@i_know_u_are1029]

hands down!

[@Melior_Traiano]

The war isn't over yet...

[@encabsss]

@@Melior_Traiano the war is not over but the support with Ukraine is declining

[@Melior_Traiano]

@@encabsss In 1942 the Germans thought they had won WWII. Making premature statements such as these have never proven to be especially clever.

[@karlwedin5979]

@@encabsss No, not in Europe. Soon the F-16 airplanes will be activated.

[@kal69]

"It's not that you love the planet,it's that you hate humanity " I like that,pretty clear.

[@KermitFrazierdotcom]

Eric Blair started out as a Communist, then became it's Worst Satirist. To Know Someone is to Hate Them.

[@saimbhat6243]

LOL. People can hate large human population, but nobody hates humanity per se. Hating humanity means similar to wishing an asteroid hitting earth to end everything. I am sure nobody will wish for that. And there is a legitimate debate around the whether the current technology and current population will lead to a better life for future generations or a worse life for future generations. Because if it is possible that current technology and population is creating a nightmare for majority of our future generations, then what is the point of having large future population who aren't living good lives. Jordan peterson isn't mad about people being worried about climate change and pollution, he is also worried about that. Nor is he worried about people asking for reducing population by having less babies( OBVIOUSLY NOT BY KILLING PEOPLE). He is worried about fall of birth rates in the west. Which he considers as the forebearers of best of humanity. I mean I don't care about his love or affection to European people and culture. It is neither rational or irrational, it is just a matter of taste. I just believe that his conclusion that people in west are not reproducing because of white guilt or their shaming by the NEO-MARXIST left is wrong (Which is obviously a boogeyman). People in west aren't reproducing less because they are being told that we should prevent climate change but they are doing it because this is the logical conclusion of scientific worldview and individualism. The love and yearning for having children is unscientific and irrational, so deciding to have less children is the logical outcome of modernity. People just calculate pros and cons for having a baby, which should not be even a question to begin with. But with modernity, having a baby is a matter of calculation. People calculate whether they want to sacrifice their time, money, years etc for having a baby, and most people don't want to do that sacrifice. Again, the love for children should be irrational, but being IRRATIONAL is a slur in modern era.

[@gw2031]

Church !

[@gw2031]

@@saimbhat6243 but you're speaking as a regular decent human being, the people currently waging war against their own people have a completely different mindset and view of the world ,they refer to us as useless eaters / cattle ,,

[@taccntb4345]

Petersons son in law is RUSSIAN!! Fock Peterson if so…. He’s probably getting free hand jobs from him while he’s at it…

[@hennessysean]

First time I've seen Morgan subdued. He knows Jordan is by far more intellectual and erudite than himself.

[@Uknurse464]

Yea he tends to start to take the side with those he cant out wit. He started doing what he does best and then quickly changed his tone a few minutes in when he realised he would look the fool

[@jakederoy2715]

Jordan is an @sshole desperate to stay relevant

[@___spiritofadventure___]

I don't know why he gets called controversial. He's the most uncontroversial person I can think of.

[@drewrussell]

Man, such a wise soul. Imagine if our politicians and media personalities had this level of analysis, foresight and intelligence.

[@LAISLA23]

Politicians are not there to be smart and help people, they are there for themselves and their criminal friends, simple

[@bobjeffboiii7725]

Our politicians have the iq of a wooden stick unfortunately

[@JoiskiMe]

Thankful that Piers finally knows that an interview necessitates letting people talk.

[@joelbeaver1093]

I was thinking the same thing

[@good2goskee]

perhaps Dr. JP is finally worth listening to in Piers's mind

[@cobra8676]

Piers usually calls people over just to express his own self lol 😆

[@positiveego5397]

Piers let Jordan speak because of who he is and what he says, not because Piers has eventually decided not to interrupt people during interviews. Tomorrow he'll still interrupt as long as he sees himself smarter or better than the guest, or dislikes the guest, or just wants to win an argument to elevate himself! I would love to see him interview Ben Shapiro.

[@good2goskee]

@@positiveego5397 👍 agreed friend

[@gd2091]

Kudos to Piers for NOT interrupting the guest and let him speak freely.

[@robbailie5878]

1st time for everything.

[@HansMcGruber]

Because he respects the hell out of him

[@MRJAYDANGEROUS]

For a change

[@JoiskiMe]

The one lucky time and its Dr. Peterson. Gold strike! 🪙⛏️

[@point__blanc]

Yeah well he actually was interrupting until he ran out of prompts I guess. Then he had nothing to say but occasional uh huh's

[@SenorTucano]

This aged very well

[@potatogod3882]

0:22 problem is putin newer threatened nukes to u.s., all he said, if west will decide to join and start ww3, putin might be forced to use mukes as last self defence act

[@oldbiff8194]

The true horror of the holocaust is not " look what those awful people did." It's " look what the human heart is capable of." I'm so glad that we have Dr. Peterson.

[@ecastcastill2736]

*EEEXACTLY!!*

[@Cpt.BEARDless]

No. Useless drivel at best

[@JamesLewis007]

Why? You knew that before.

[@pierscadell7188]

@@Cpt.BEARDless And at worst? I have a beard but if I shave it off it won't give me an identity crisis! :)

[@talesoftheredpill7542]

@@Cpt.BEARDless you shouldn't talk about yourself like that, it's demeaning

[@emmetzet]

" but the planet has too many people on it anyway; that's just poor people " JP encapsulates the elite in that simple utterance

[@Suze384]

Jordan doesn't believe there's too many people on the planet. You misunderstood him. He openly advocates for higher birth rates.

[@doroparker1702]

He is brilliant. This cynical sentence may shock some people but it is the truth. Another word for poor people is useless eaters. A favourite expression from people who never worked a day in their life and who are living of stockbrokers winnings. Listen to Bill Clinton, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab. They don't care about anybody below one billion of assets. These three guys will always have some fifty millions on the side and some mansions filled with food and a private plane to get there.

[@stephenjenkins7971]

"The Elite" being Putler in this case since he started this braindead war and is now pitting more of his young men into this meatgrinder rather than just walking away and taking the L.

[@mikepowell8611]

They don't care what their dumb ass politics do to poor people they have a planet to save!

[@carianin5293]

Looking forward to Putin's reset of the WEF.

[@machax002]

he was right in his analysis!

[@karlwedin5979]

Actually not. Did the Russian dictator pay you to make this comment?

[@Thomash613a]

He hit the nail on the head.."The planet has too many people on it". COVID didn't work..let's up the pot to nuclear war..

[@markpalmer8083]

Never seen Morgan quiet and listening for so long.

[@lightningjelly]

He respects him and his high intellect that's why it's what happens when Jordan Peterson speaks.

[@urablahblah]

He tried to go toe-to-toe with Peterson near the beginning, but he was quickly shown to be outmatched by Peterson's intellect and deep thinking he has done on these topics.

[@sparkythemagicpiano2867]

Because for a change the person he is interviewing isn’t a moron

[@don9733]

Piers realized he was far outmatched so he did the most sensible thing listened to JP

[@mashamasha3315]

I wish he would be even quieter) So annoying

[@darlenebradley6756]

"food insecurity" - just a euphemistic term for famine. Peterson is right on target.

[@chetyoubetya8565]

Who do you personally know that has food insecurity that didn't have it two years ago??

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

Last harvests being taken in before autumn & winter in Europe. Shortages haven't even started yet

[@BobCharlton]

@@chetyoubetya8565 Not sure about him, but the measures created to combat the c0ron@ virus put some people I know to the border of poverty. Like reducing their means to twice a day instead of 3, things like that and I'm mid class. The poor peope got F%¨ over

[@darianbell9614]

@@chetyoubetya8565 Shri Lanka was a booming economy 2 years ago. Their government obviously squandered their money which doesn't help but in large part their food insecurity is caused by Russia and Ukraine's war.

[@trentp8035]

Double speak, it sounds better if a government says my people are food insecure than saying they're starving.

[@UmehMarisOnyebuchi]

surely he is a true leader, congratulations to him and more grace for standing out for what is right.

[@desideriosanona3343]

They are Kamikazes..if they thinks Russia go loose this war...

[@garfield3443]

For once Piers didn't interrupt his guest too much, I guess he realized that he didn't want to look foolish in the way Cathy Newman was.

[@frankhinstein2843]

So what you are saying.....😂

[@markheithaus]

Ukraine won't lose its sovereignty. "Ukrainian isn't a real language." "Ukraine isn't a real country." He's a lunatic. This is cultural genocide. No, that's not ethnic genocide, but to the degree that Ukrainians continue to identify as Ukrainian (which he is now reinforcing), he will continue to press for their extinction. He is pressing for the extinction of an independent and sovereign Ukraine and for the extinction of the idea of Ukraine. Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will never let this go. The ONLY good outcome is Ukrainian sovereignty.

[@sharndawg007]

…that time when ‘Catty’ Newman embarrassed herself in the name of so called feminism! Was so painful to watch! 🙄🙄🙄 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@billsmith109]

he tried with that victory sht but the prawn was way out of his league. piers is s script reader not a free thinker. jordan doesnt stick to scripts.

[@fletcherhamilton3177]

Piers still didn't 'get' a lot of Peterson's remarks - 'There's a bit of Hitler in everybody?!?' Nah, 'cos Hitler was actually the love child of Predator and Pinhead right Piers? 🙄

[@natashawatson385]

I like how piers kept he's mouth shut for once and listened.

[@davidreed9671]

Eventually, I think he thought to himself, best not argue he is cleverer than me!

[@toms607]

Yes there’s quite clearly a lot of respect there, as there should be. A lot of Piers’ utterances are probably from Peterson primarily or secondarily anyways - particularly his ideological view and utterances in the realms of identity politics.

[@Reathety]

Every now and again Piers impresses me...

[@bigjohnhansome5779]

But still not enough.

[@arroeducarlion4990]

never wise to debate professor peterson unless you are of higher intellect many a media personality has learned the hard way

[@danielhalachev4714]

I don't need to be a psychologist to know this.

[@user-zz1kd7zu2x]

I'm going to tell you a little bit of history now, and I hope that you will understand for yourself how Russia threatens the countries of Europe and NATO. In 1812 Napoleon's army invaded Russia, in which Poles, Italians, Austrians, Prussians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Dutch and Germans fought together with the French, a total of seven hundred thousand people. Napoleon abandoned the army and fled Russia disguised in a woman's dress, and the army did not return to France. In 1918, the armies of fourteen states invaded Russia - USA, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, India, France, Italy, Greece, Poland, Japan, Serbian battalion, Finnish Karelian and Murmansk legions, Danish volunteer battalion, African Cavalry regiment, native Riflemen regiment, Algerian riflemen battalion, Indochina battalion; Senegalese battalion shooters, more than a million people in total. All of them were expelled from the territory of Russia in 1922. In 1941, the troops of Nazi Germany (Hitler) invaded the territory of the Soviet Union, as well as Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria, Finland, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, who fought with it, as well as a bunch of other units of Spaniards, Belgians, Dutch, French, Danes, Norwegians, OUN (Bandera), UPA (Borovets, Shukhevych) and the Gallichina division (Ukrainians and Gallians). The total number of troops, only German: 4 million 50 thousand people, taking into account the troops of other countries and strategic reserves, almost 5 million people! No one knows exactly how many bones have decayed without a trace in the Russian land.

[@anrymarchen]

it’s not history, it’s just some bullshit and assorted figures torn out of context. What was Russia doing just few years before 1812 in Austerlitz and Friedland? Pretty far from it’s borders huh?Getting its ass kicked in foreign lands. What was Russia doing in 1939-40, just prior and during earlier stages of WW2, when Britain had beed fighting against Germany? Waging mess of a war against Finland, annexing sovereign Baltic states, gang raping Poland with nazis. Then after getting its ass kicked in the opening months of Barbarossa Russia desperately ran for help to the UK and US to get tremendous amount of free supplies through lend lease.. You can hardly find more scumbag of a country than Russia. Country built on lies, mass murders, stupidity and paranoia

[@SomeeGuyy]

"It's not that you love the planet, it's that you hate humanity." Truer words never spoken.

[@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944]

Because I love the planet I hate humanity. What is there to not understand?

[@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944]

@@nobody7158 Satan is a fairy tale. Climate change is reality.

[@SomeeGuyy]

@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 The very fact that you are on social media replying to this post let's me know that you don't mind enjoying the comforts of human ingenuity and invention. By the way, nature is indifferent to your virtue signaling 😉

[@relaxingsounds1386]

@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 so take care of it on a personal level

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

Examine the statement, it is a nonsense.

[@thadtuiol1717]

About 30 seconds in, Piers Morgan at least had the intelligence to realise that, as he was facing a far superior intellect and more knowledgable man, he'd better stop trying to counterargue and score cheap points and just let JP talk. Unlike Cathy Newman...

[@maseratifittipaldi]

So you're saying...

[@jester1833]

​@@DiscreetPete5050 Are you implying Jordan Peterson is of average intelligence? Of all the criticism I've seen directed towards Peterson, that's a first. *(EDIT - added) Mediocre means ordinary or average. So your claim is that Jordan Peterson's intelligence level is common. Is there any evidence to support that? On the contrary there's evidence to support he is substantially more intelligent than the average person. The fact he's taught at Harvard and other major universities successfully, completed a PhD, authored several successful books (both in sales and effect on readers), treated and helped thousands of patients in clinical practice, conversed and debated with many world renowned intellectuals, most respecting him as a peer... Those aren't the achievements of someone with ordinary intelligence, whether practically or by literal definition.

[@masterpl2k7]

@@jester1833 @Geo fillan has such an ego he has to imply he's above others. Maybe he's from the GATE program?

[@watonemillion]

will you jp stans give it a rest! please!!

[@Pwwh0711]

@@DiscreetPete5050 "None of whom" LOL 'fell at the first hurdle!

[@ericsmith1453]

not naive just plain clueless as all collective west leaders are

[@Lebensfreude]

Dr. Peterson always gives food for thought

[@VBeef907]

food for the Neo-Liberal thought.

[@milwaukeechris4603]

EVERYTIME. And with a common sense approach.

[@realscience948]

Far too right wing for me…and I follow him! Political opinions are one thing…but I don’t think that’s his speciality!

[@eugenesukhoi7025]

He doesn't. He never talks about the real reasons that lead to this conflict and anyone who thinks that he's unaware of them is complete retard. All he does is uses his popularity to further spread confusion and misinformation to his viewers. In other words he helps the western colonial establishment and it upsets him that war against Russia isn't going the same way like it did in Iraq or Libya.

[@eugenesukhoi7025]

@@marianabavdys8448 Ukraine decides only after the US comes up with a decision.

[@lukeh3201]

Mainstream media isn't ready for Dr Peterson. Too much truth.

[@kethughes8266]

How much more mainstream can you get than Sky the mouthpiece of media mogul Rupert Murdoch.

[@jounisuninen]

Or too much empty phrases 😃

[@XboxxxGuy]

There's virtually nothing he says which is true, and in fact, in his debate with Sam Harris, he effectively admitted he defined truth in a way Orwell and the Kremlin would be proud of.

[@chico9805]

​@@XboxxxGuyOver a year has passed, and as expected, time has proven everything he said as true.

[@Ben-jr6vl]

@@XboxxxGuy wow, such a burn for the west and once again true. Wise and articulate, much respect

[@elemdy914]

Remember the Germans laughing at trump at the UN about Russia having control over germanys energy…

[@cowhatcat8158]

Dont give fraud man credit for this. Experts warned about this for long, our last goverment didnt listen

[@Ivan.A.Trulyuski]

My moms sister moved to Germany and my German cousin is a massive Trump hater who loved to throw that exchange in my face. I sent him a blanket last week that said: “Winter is coming” with Trump on it hugging the American flag. It hasn’t arrived to him yet, good thing I got a delivery notification cause I don’t think he’d tell me when it arrives.

[@sarveshyadav01]

@@Ivan.A.Trulyuski i don't know about blanket but that burn will surely keep him warm.

[@ai-d2121]

You know what the irony is; there is no fuel shortage. It is a matter of cost.

[@alexgo1034]

Sp1 and sp2 are ready to deliver . Germans just can't buy it cause sanctions they put on the pipes(sp1-2). So its internal German problem) And maybe their external goverment in White house))

[@pillycay7611]

And he was right, Russia is winning

[@karlwedin5979]

Actually not. Did the Russian dictator pay you to make this comment?

[@pillycay7611]

@@karlwedin5979 yes , 1billion dolla, 😂😂😂

[@daphnethurlow5388]

Russia will not lose obviously

[@Max_Da_G]

@@paulogauge8783 Russia specifically is winning. Both militarily and politically, as well as economically. It got that kick in the ass that it needed and now started to do shit it should have been doing on its own a decade ago. Putin is winning because Russia is winning. Oh, and back to school for you, maggot, because "Russia" and "Putin" are written starting with a capital letter.

[@Akella1986]

@@paulogauge8783 No, Russia will win as well

[@paulogauge8783]

​@@Akella1986 wining by stealing is not wining is stealing , tell me what country are you from?

[@Akella1986]

@@paulogauge8783 winning by defending it is own interests. I' am from Russia. And I know something. And you don't know nothing about it.

[@paulogauge8783]

​@@Akella1986 ​ are from russia? You know nothing you are a just putin slave and meat for use! Defending your interest by stealing ukraine and attacking the civilian population is not Defending your interest is you being a ediot, stealing and killing and raping in name of russia or putin?, be carefull with waht you call Defending your interest because the others don't see it thay way, it can come back to you and then you ask wy everybody is against you. Black see fleet ist at -30% in 2 years, more 2 years and is finish. So wen will you go to front line give your life for putin ? You are advancing? sure very slow at cost god knows what! you think you have enough blood to spare? Let ukraine be the grave of your nation and your interest

[@teufelshund3213]

Damn. Dr Peterson is savage. He’ll never tell you what you want to hear, but he’ll always tell you what you need to hear. Good on Piers Morgan for having him on and letting him speak.

[@bmxaf]

"Be a monster". Just taking his own advice.

[@JamesLewis007]

What did he say here that you didn't want to hear?

[@nathanielclaw2841]

Curious to see someone with your profile pic simping for someone with no military knowledge bullshit his way to explain things he does not understand

[@jaykay6387]

Piers does have a bit of a problem "letting others speak", but eventually he gets around to it. I never watch Piers, but clicked on this because of JP. After reading some of the other comments, it appears that Piers does indeed have a huge problem letting his guests speak. JP will not be "bullied" and will always get his point across, so Piers basically had no choice, as he's not in JP's league intellectually. At one point, I said to myself why the heck doesn't Piers shut up and let Jordan answer the question.

[@TWAAAAACKS]

Hahahahahhahahaha is this comment real?! What good has ever come out of this weasels mouth???

[@peacefulsoul81]

"I know what I"d do in his shoes"........exactly, that's an honest man right there. Thanks JP

[@paulybeefs8588]

The idea that Putin can just "turn off the gas" to force a victory in Ukraine is so completely wrong, that in order tod draw that conclusion you either have to be regurgitating uncut Mother Russia propaganda, or completely dumb. Draw your own conclusions as to which JP is. The EU has enough oil and natural gas to provide heat and electricity to all residential areas through spring of 2025, and that doesn't even factor in the additional offset of several nuclear powerplants that France recently reactivated. At this point, the only thing that withholding gas can accomplish is restricting European manufacturing and energy intensive industries. Putin essenttially has the option of temporarily hurting the European economy, but only at the expense of permanently decimating the remainder of Russia's economy, which relies on energy exports for 50%-65% of GDP. The trade off is so lopsided that I can't imagine there's any way Putin is dumb enough to do it, but if he does, victory in Ukraine will come that much sooner.

[@abdulimraan2706]

@@paulybeefs8588 Putin don't need Europe but Europe needs him as he can sell to Asia Africa Mid East and North America.

[@paulybeefs8588]

@@abdulimraan2706 Incorrect. Russia cannot sell gas anywhere but Europe. Russia does not have the technology to liquify their gas, so the only option is to run it through pipelines in it's gaseous state. It's western oil companies like Shell, BP, Exxon that have the technology to build a liquifier facility, but even if they agreed to build one (which they will never do during a conflict), it takes several years to even build a plant. Asia and India were buying extra discounted oil and gas through the summer, but they now have no additional storage facilties to buy more even if they wanted to.

[@springbloom5940]

@@paulybeefs8588 Your argument fails from first principle. Unless, of course, you're saying the quiet part out loud, that this is the West's war and Ukraine has nothing to say about it? Hes not talking simply about EU, but Ukraine and *all* of Europe. What no one seems to get their heads around, is the reason this is called a 'special military operation', is because its a Russian constitutional constraint. Contrary to Western propaganda, its not some kind of euphemism; Russians in fact do respect rule of law and their laws have restricted the number and type of troops they can apply, as well as what kinds of weapons and targets. Until now, they've been restricted to ~200k deployed troops and military targets directly engaged against Russian forces. Example: they must track a weapon from the battlefield to a depot, or from a depot to the battlefield, in order to strike said depot. This is why they've hit so few training camps and weapons depots, despite knowing where they are. No one seems even casually curious about why Ukraine still has electricity, water, phones, internet, etc, despite knowing without doubt that Russia has the capability to deny all of it. There is some question what a 'partial mobilization' means legally, but it will probably ease the constraints on targeting strategic infrastructure, like utilities and services and more importantly, state level leadership. This allows them to wait until winter sets in, when there is *nothing anyone can do about it* and start taking all of that away. Nothing will be more catastrophically demoralizing to troops, than to assume their families are freezing and starving in the dark. Assuming, because they can't even communicate with them. If you think the London Blitz was hard, wait till you see it with precision cruise missiles and TBM blasting every building with a Ukrainian flag on it to rubble and hitting everything with a pipe or cable going into or out of it. You are an unmitigated fool, if you think they they haven't, because they can't.

[@paulybeefs8588]

@@springbloom5940 It actually doesn't fail at first principle. I was articulating the points Peterson presented in the interview. Nobody brought up mobilization, but since you did, let's go for it. Russia isn't losing this conflict because they don't have enough troops. They are losing this conflict because they are bad at logistics. They cannot adequately supply fuel, ammunition, food, clothing, housing, or equipment to the number of soldiers they already have. It's already a disorganized clusterf*ck that's crumbling at every stress point. But you are contending that if they add an additional 300,000 troops on top of the 200,000 they already can't supply, that this is going to be the turning point? Hilarious. Russia is already desperately turning to any remaining ally for help on dwindling resources, including turning to North Korea to resupply their shortage of ammunition. They are literally running out of everything except oil and gas. On top of that, how many resources will they devert from the conflict to prepare 300,000 troops for battle. And they are going to coordinate the logistics for this? Give me break. The reason Russia isn't targeting civilian infrastructure is because they have a shortage of guided missiles. Every single missile Russia wastes on a civilian target is a missile they don't have for a military target. The idea that Russia has the capability force the Ukrainian population to submit through brute force strength is so misinformed I don't even know where to start. Is that an idea you just invented in your head? Or is there actual literature that gave you this idea? I'm incredibly curious if it's the latter. You're an unmitigated fool if you think that Putin has the ability to win this conflict, but is simply losing because he's not trying.

[@InnocentFinishLine-bj2fw]

Well said Jordon

[@spy_balloon]

The war isn't yet over

[@petrusstreamrock5315]

"It's not that you *love* the planet... It's that you *hate* humanity..." -Jordan Peterson

[@Ball7399]

To truly love the planet, you'd need to love humanity so that quote makes little sense. No individual objectively thinks destroying humanity is a good thing, it would literally sentence the individual themselves to death without all the necessary functioning industries

[@farangutan6773]

good quote , I always felt that Greens don't like human beings even being one themselves .

[@omarlostsoul]

i heard humility

[@earthlingsareinsane7193]

@@Ball7399 OMG! Do you live under a rock? It is true.

[@sallytucker2354]

It isn't his quote. JP quoted Orwell's book 1984.

[@MyWissam]

If you are interviewing someone, then let them speak.

[@alexpush]

Какой же это бред! Чуваки вообще не имеют знаний о нашей истории и не понимают, что будет впереди. Пирс Морган - это рыбка Дорри. У него всё в жизни случается без предыстории и предпосылок.

[@craneywatch]

Bravo to Dr Jordan Peterson: We cannot win to someone we can not say "No" to.

[@baardagaam]

The interview is from 5 months ago and is outdated, In the meanwhile Putin has lost the gas/ oil war against Europe. Germany and other countries are (since February 2023 ) importing LNG from Qatar and USA and have new pipeline contracts with Norway, Algeria and Azerbaijan . So yes, Europe can say no to Putin( and we are doing exactly that)

[@REPOMAN24722]

@@baardagaam One ship from Qatar and what little Norway and the cost of US CNG cannot match the volumes from Russia, meanwhile Russia is selling it's gas to Asia and its economy is growing stronger every quarter, meanwhile in EU people sleep in shelters that have gas and electricity, people have to pre pay for electricity because it is now Euro 60c per kw/h in some countries unless you live in Hungary who struck a deal with Russia for cheap LNG. And yes my whole family live in the EU and see it first hand.

[@baardagaam]

@@REPOMAN24722 I am not saying it will be easy the next years, but the poverty in Europe has more causes than just the energy crisis, it's the effect of unbridled capitalism (like in the USA, where more people were in poverty in 2020 than there are now in Europe in 2023) and even the energy crisis has more causes than just the lack of Russian oil/ gas. (Transition to renewables has been to fast, the energy companies have billion dollar profits and so on) Summary: Putin has no more power over Europe's gas/ energy market, the European decisions have already been made to change to renewable energy and to change from Russia to alternative countries for the remaining gas consumption... Those decisions are now irreversible... Furthermore it's none of Europe's business what China and Russia are doing amongst themselves, Europe just wants to get rid of the toxic relation with Russia. Let's just completely stop all trading between Europe and Russia, and Russians can do their own thing with China if they want.

[@REPOMAN24722]

@@baardagaam EU needs Russia more than Russia needs the EU, countries that rely on renewables already can only drive their EV's on odd or even days due to grid demands and lack of power from them due to nuclear decommissioning in Germany, other nations with Nuclear are better off, but ICE is far from dead, watch countries push the deadlines back, look at Denmark people are reverting back to ICE as their secondary cars as its cheaper to run an X5 than an EV now due to the cost of power.

[@craneywatch]

@@baardagaam I hope you are right.

[@Cantbuyathrill]

Jordan cuts through the world's hypocrisy like a filleting knife.

[@ProfesorTutu]

he's so bitter. we cannot expect him to be reasonable anymore

[@nathanielclaw2841]

He has the emotional intelligence of a 4 year old

[@Cantbuyathrill]

@@nathanielclaw2841 Who?

[@nathanielclaw2841]

@@Cantbuyathrill JP, duh.

[@theflanman420420]

@@nathanielclaw2841 that doesn’t mean what he says isn’t accurate….these aren’t his feelings he’s referencing these are statements and facts made by these banks and other scumbag organizations.

[@David-iu7nt]

You know you have a special guest being interviewed when Piers spends more time listening than he force feeding his opinion!

[@KenTeel]

A special guest? Everyone is like Hitler?... Yes Jordan is special in this interview, alright. He's proving that psychologist can be full of crap, just like many of the general public can be.

[@escapetarkov3838]

@juan abee Only they didn't have a shit load of American bad ass volunteers shooting the bullets at them before. The Russians won't win through actual military actions.

[@stijnvanbezouwen6443]

@@KenTeel He is not saying that everyone is like hitler, but that everyone has a little bit of hitler in them. Which, if you think about it is no new thought either ... everything is touched by god and devil, but it is our actions that determine to which side we fall. You simply dont always do the right thing, and to think you have no potential to do the wrong thing, or a horrible thing, is folly.

[@buriedsecrets6210]

@@KenTeel you must be Mayor of the galactically stupid!!.... Everyone EVERYONE has the conditions to be a tyrant... Dont flatter yourself

[@mindlandscape5767]

​@@KenTeel If you dont think you have "a bit of the devil" inside you, its possible you are in the peril danger of being him itself.

[@ashinkyawgyi3020]

There is two kind of words : Emotional words And educational words. Don't mess up these 2.

[@nomadson615]

You mean "are"

[@willietorben560]

You, Sir, have not read "I cannot Forgive" by Dr. Prof. Rudolf Vrba.

[@vijjreddy]

what is this notion - don't give an inch of our land? whose land and whose inch? It is their treatment of the Russian speaking citizens of Ukrainians - made them demand autonomy, made them want to break away... like you say your land, they also have every right to say it is their land

[@hharrison-parker1606]

P.M way out of his depth with this man. An absolutely brilliant and spot on as usual

[@paulybeefs8588]

JP is the opposite of "spot on." The idea that Putin can just "turn off the gas" to force a victory in Ukraine is so completely wrong, that you'd have to be either a Russian citizen completely cut off from current information about European energy, or completely stupid to come to that conclusion. I know which JP is. The EU has enough oil and natural gas to provide heat and electricity to all residential areas through winter of 2024, and that doesn't factor in the additional offset of several nuclear powerplants that France recently reactivated. At this point, the only thing that withholding gas can accomplish is restricting European manufacturing and energy intensive industries. Putin essenttially has the option of hurting the European economy, but only at the expense of completely decimating the remainder of Russia's economy, which relies on energy exports for 50%-65% of GDP.

[@Bitchslapper316]

@@paulybeefs8588 You should listen to this again, their entire conversation clearly went right over your head.

[@lewiselliott9038]

@@paulybeefs8588 wake the f**k up

[@Thebrothaisback]

@@paulybeefs8588 western Europe got their economies from what? Taking things! If Russia needed a new economy, they can take

[@nadiamunday8351]

“Its not that you love the planet its that you hate humanity”

[@Niemand1947]

Yes, WEF in a nutshell!

[@TheRetroManRandySavage]

I think we can all agree with that. Champagne socialists do love to hate.

[@priceisright1580]

This climate change and activists is mumbo gumbo and a huge scam to create more new taxes for government revenues and damage the independent wealth of individuals and economies...

[@Ball7399]

None truly hate Humanity for without Humanity, no single human or even a large group would survive in the long run. The leaders, even the "elites" need normal working people for without us they fall, same applies vise-versa

[@scratchpenny]

@@Ball7399 But need is different than love or hate. There are many things we need to do in life that we absolutely hate.

[@staybased9320]

Dr Jordan Peterson: managed to predict the future now there are ton of proofs haters: this aged like milk

[@dhanush17]

YOU CAN NOT WIN AGAINST SOMEONE YOU CAN NOT SAY NO TO

[@mbm8404]

My favorite quote of Piers: “What’s the point in calling yourself a liberal if you don’t allow others to express differing points of view?” Piers Morgan.

[@willisscott3107]

Because all libs are hypocrites.

[@masterpooshi6031]

Stop calling communist liberals.

[@fleatactical7390]

It's because "liberals" are actually tyrants.

[@KiwiGraggle]

EXACTLY. If you try to express your views like I do, as a Kiwi, yeah, I get censored a lot. But all I speak is the truth, truth gets punished and it is people like Piers who can inform the ones who are wokely to wake up and smell the coffee.

[@carlroberts7830]

but isn't that exactly what a liberal is? tone deaf to everyone else's thoughts and ideas if it does not conform to their way of thinking

[@frazerguest2864]

I’m a 45 year old man whose spent years in some of the roughest prisons in the UK. When Dr Peterson gets deadly serious, it genuinely unnerves me.

[@cryptouncle6630]

Wow, fascinating comment. Thank you!

[@BPchadlite]

Because you're a goofball that loves a 60 year old advice-bro that cries in public

[@projektkobra2247]

@@BPchadlite -And you are helping......how? Wheres your bestselling book?...Where are your videos?...

[@UnpwnedSoldier]

sure kid

[@kid--presentable]

@@projektkobra2247 how long were you bullied at school for ?

[@Dr.Kay_R]

I'm from future. This aged like fine wine

[@sav8772]

And 1 year later... 😢

[@average_rite]

"That's just poor people " damn what a line

[@jonjon5137]

The consequences of mass immigration kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioKVfqqcaa5kic0 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪

[@user-du4gw]

@@koschmx broooo fr watch these left wingers do it asap

[@philipsankot8003]

I liked....You cannot win against someone you cannot say "no" to

[@willietorben560]

Spoken by a billionaire, no less.

[@tannhauser5399]

@@willietorben560 - not necessairly. You don't have to be a billionaire. The hedge funds managers, top London's traders, top level executives at various corporations (such as military contractors, or Blackrock, Vanguard Group, Nestle and so on) -> have entered the chat...

[@justin4357]

Damn dude.. his sarcasm at the end was priceless.. “ that’s just poor people “

[@GG-od2tr]

This is how the power see's the meek.

[@ifarted6422]

Look up Ted Turner

[@G31mR]

Could he have said "...NOT just poor people"? I've listened to it several times and can't decide. Either way, it's a telling statement.

[@slaktaren4849]

@@G31mR He is ironic.

[@OLCOD]

Yeah, lo, and Sky News made sure they cut this video right there. Can you guess which part of that interview some people are going to cling on?

[@jipleyYT]

Where did we hear this before hmmm? somewhere around 1972 in Vietnam: it's impossible for the USA to loose this war.....and in 1975 it's actually lost.....What mr. Peterson seems to forget is, it's a war on Ukrainian territory. Russia has weak supply lines mostly bound to railroad hubs, doesn't have the oil+gas cash inflow anymore and Ukraine is fighting for their mere existence. I sincerely doubt Russia will be able to continue this war much longer let alone win it.

[@desertfox690]

Russia is still winning the war. Its successes on the Donetsk front are much more significant than Ukraine's victory in the Kharkiv region Many do not understand, but the Donetsky Front is one continuous fortified area. Russia is not using its full potential to raze Ukraine to the ground. Yes, it attacks military and energy centers, but it does not attack schools, residential buildings, hospitals, and so on, because Russia cares about the inhabitants and does not want 4 new regions to become a subsidized pit after the war.

[@flawlesswill1987]

what are you talking about? the only war the USA has won recently is the civil war which they also lost as it was against themselves, and no way can russia run out of oil and gas when they supply most of the world with it. you think they would keep sending it to the EU and go short themselves? and your last point weak supply lines? they dont have to be great they just have to be better than 'ukrain's which they are Ukraine is mostly rubble now.

[@michaelangelo5580]

1 year later and the cash is still flowing to Russia and they're gaining more territory and over 500k Ukrainians are dead. Yeah Mr Peterson was very wrong

[@karlwedin5979]

@@desertfox690 Actually not. Did the Russian dictator pay you to make this comment?

[@larsnielsen1852]

Jordan Petersen is here, there and everywhere. Now he is apparently a war expert too....

[@polpol1005]

like musk

[@MrMajsterixx]

no, and he is not sayin anything about war tactic or anythin like that. He is talkin as a philosopher and psychologist. And as someone who studied the horrors of totalitarian regimes and history

[@thevegangoomba4777]

He doesn't speak with intuition he's a prideful man. Therefore he'll only be right 30% of the time.

[@royk7712]

He's an educated man with probably better research ability than internet keyboard warrior. I think he has the right to speak about his speculation and mostly he's right

[@kylehufnal3213]

That last line struck me. "The planet has too many people on it anyway, and those (35M people in jeopardy of starving this winter) are just poor people" That is EXACTLY how politicians and powerful people think of others.

[@chrispekel5709]

I think it's 350 million!

[@ianbenjiman]

That's how they have the so-called marxists, liberals, progressives and socialists thinking as well. I call them the hivemind of the ruling elite.

[@ym5891]

I am gonna go out on a limb and guarantee that some leftwinger like Olivia Wilde is going to clip just that sentence and then go 'JP HATES POOR PEOPLE!'

[@kylehufnal3213]

@@chrispekel5709 You're right, I left out the 0 !

[@Michael-dq1qr]

he is being sarcastic. Its not how he feels

[@X66966]

He is not wrong though, just like Ukraine, Russia is also willing to go all out and the only country that will benefit from this is the USA (ruling govt) by doing their business of selling weapons. Even Noam Chomsky has said this, he even acknowledges that only Trump seems to have understood the way this war is working, and he got a lot of backlashes. Ukraine will probably be the Middle East of Europe!

[@idunusegoogleplus]

If I'm not wrong USA itself is giving away the weapons and training for free. It is the weapons manufacturers making the big bucks not the taxpayers aka the US govt.

[@hectorgarcia9790]

Trump was Putin's lapdog. Maybe he understood it from that perspective?.

[@begachka]

Russia will be willing to go all out - out of Ukraine when they've finally woken up.

[@bartroger7620]

R u smart??? The USA isn't making money their giving money for free. Smh.

[@paulybeefs8588]

The idea that Putin can just "turn off the gas" to force a victory in Ukraine is so completely wrong, that to say so you either have to be regurgitating straight up Mother Russia propaganda or completely unprepared and misinformed. Not sure which of those JP is, but draw your own conclusions. The EU has enough oil and natural gas to provide heat and electricity to all residential areas through winter of 2024, and that doesn't even factor in the additional offset of several nuclear powerplants that France recently reactivated. At this point, the only thing that withholding gas can accomplish is restricting European manufacturing and energy intensive industries. Putin essenttially has the option of temporarily hurting the European economy, but only at the expense of permanently decimating the remainder of Russia's economy, which relies on energy exports for 50%-65% of GDP. The trade off is so lopsided that I can't imagine there's anyway Putin is dumb enough to ever do it. But if he does, then Russia will be defeated that much sooner.

[@user-wx6vz2vn3y]

You don't have to be a genius to see that Russia will win this war.

[@karlwedin5979]

Actually not. Did the Russian dictator pay you to make this comment?

[@user-wx6vz2vn3y]

@@karlwedin5979 nobody pays me. Actually I am tired of paying with my taxes for our warmonger politicians and their bloody wars. Not to mention the inflation and other damage to our economies that their wicked policies are causing.

[@cezaryspiz3157]

Mr. Peterson is a Canadian psychologist, so when he talks about Canada or psychology, it's worth listening to him. But when he starts talking about Eastern Europe, you quickly notice that he has no idea what he's talking about.

[@xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538]

Whether you agree with him or not, how amazing is it to see someone who speaks their mind without the need to shout over people and shut them down. Again, you can disagree with someone, but I’d rather have a conversation with someone I disagree with than someone who just shouts over.

[@renaudtheis1197]

And that makes you an extremist by today’s standards

[@Revelian1982]

He doesn't just speak his mind. He speaks the truth.

[@seahog1911]

@@renaudtheis1197 So speaking truth to power is extreme?

[@Helperbot-2000]

@@seahog1911 by saying he speaks the truth you really show how lost you are

[@davskol]

In another interview he ranked (indirectly) Putin as the best Russian leader since 1917? Really? Gorbatsjov, Jeltsin, Medvedev? I used to appreciate J.Peterson before he became a full time culture warior being contrarian just for the sake of it and before he developed a grandiose personality. These days he is mostly agressiv and predictable in his contrarian world view, almost supporting Putin.

[@chrisgrossman8946]

“You cannot win to someone you cannot say no to.” That’s a statement that goes beyond this interview.

[@eztvlight1202]

We need more no.

[@michael7144]

Yes, brilliant

[@roc7880]

but you can kill the guy who threatens you.

[@johndawson8510]

It goes beyond the interviewer as well.

[@Kallyman421]

We absolutely can say no though. His ideas on Modern Russias internal politics and leverage on the west are almost entirely based on their own propaganda

[@mathhelpmadeeasy]

I love listening to Mr. Peterson. He’s so fascinating! He sounds so elegant!

[@willietorben560]

I do agree. If only the content wouldn't be such nonsense. It is painful to watch such a gratuitous display of "style over substance". It is time badly wasted.

[@User-od4qu]

​@@willietorben560 Redacted, The New Atlas, Richard Medhurst, Patrick Lancaster, Travelling with Russell, Siberian Freedom

[@mecho68]

Americans did in Vietnam, Russians in Afghanistan, so, victory is not for granted, even if you are a nuclear power with a super army.

[@awwwyeaboyeeee]

Thank you for not interrupting him, Piers.

[@1024det]

Yes Piers can be a great interviewer when he wants to be, he recognized Dr. Jordan gold when he speaks. But he wont let some idiot leftist ramble on a fairy tale for a long time.

[@ruthlessmofo]

I forgot he does that alot lol

[@charleso6316]

First time he is stopping himself from being the guest when interviewing a guest

[@jonmcalister1802]

A better decision would have been to skip the invite. What relevance does the opinions of a fringe psychologist have to this topic?

[@deanodog3667]

@@jonmcalister1802 hes also an intellectual!

[@skizilla]

The point Dr. Peterson makes about everyone having darkness in them is so true, and there's not a talking head that will acknowledge it.

[@stoptheviolence3358]

Yeah but but most of us wouldn’t do what hitler did don’t be so convinced

[@rpe7418]

@@stoptheviolence3358 Yet look what he convinced nearly an entire nation to do.

[@stoptheviolence3358]

@@rpe7418 you can’t convince so many people unless some of the reasons are true

[@rpe7418]

@@stoptheviolence3358 That's how effective lies work. They need a certain degree of truth to them. The lie was to blame specific groups of people for truthful problems.

[@havable]

YOU have darkness in your soul because YOU are willing to take people's freedoms away in the name of your evil god. Those of us who abandoned the notion of "Love Me And Fear Me at the same time" because we got sick of being lied to by pedo priests and pastors do not have darkness in our souls because we no longer worship a god who bragged about the genocides he committed and those he forced humans to commit. Ever read your bible? Don't skip Deuteronomy or Joshua where you'll see plenty of genocide by the evil god you worship. Abandon him, and your soul will stop being so dark. Your assumption that everyone else has "darkness" is pure projection on your part.

[@xtensionxward3659]

"people will certainely go along with that " well wasnt that what happened with Vietnam war and Iraq war that left Iraq even more messed up ? american people just went along with that 🤷‍♂

[@user-ru6ji8qm1w]

"with Ukraine in ruins" that hit hard😢

[@andyl6742]

Thankyou Piers for letting Jordan talk. Most interviewers just want to argue with him instead of letting him speak his mind. And what a fantastic mind he has.

[@Vickzq]

And while many journalist acted like russia was defeated because of a small counteroffensive... only few pointed out how russia still holds 20% of the territory. They also claim how everything was panic driven, when putin speaks. I would bet money on psychopathy... making him not feel panic and being highly efficent.

[@ursulanedi6005]

O yes indeed, his brain covers wisdom and facts.

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

@@Vickzq what has putin said that makes you think psychopathy?

[@starkfuture1057]

@@FOURTEEFIVE being shamelessly selfish (for yourself, your family and then your own people) is seen as psychopathic these days. Trump was accused of the same thing and all he did was question the cost the US got saddled with for being the “world leader”.

[@Ball7399]

@@FOURTEEFIVE Putin is manipulative, deceitful and a liar to his own people. Putin also said to young Russians "forget your dreams, fight for your country" and him sending thousands of very young men into war imply a high lack of empathy, its clear he uses them as pawns. Putin also starts an unprovoked war why ? Most likely for power, to gain more land and therefore power High lack of empathy, arrogance, deceitfulness, manipulation, ambition/power-hunger are classic traits of psychopaths. We of course cannot make an accurate diagnosis but the signs are there

[@Revelian1982]

He speaks so much sense and truth that the BBC won't touch him.

[@Ball7399]

I'm a fan of JP but he made very incorrect points here

[@Ball7399]

1. There's no victory because its either Russia occupy Ukraine or leave it a ruin both of which are losses. I beg to differ, war has always caused death and ruin, victory would be peace restored 2. There's no victory against Putin because we sold our soul for his oil and gas. Again untrue, the US has a larger oil reserve than Russia and apart from maybe Germany, Europe won't struggle so tremendously this winter that it will make them regret their decision that's lies JP seems really pessimistic here, not realistic like he usually is

[@drake1896]

No he doesn't lmao, he's sold out to the daily wire

[@blackleague212]

BBC is the only place with writers/ thinkers can actually challenge Jordans complex mind. I wish he spoke in other languages. Us Americans ask him the dumbest things, but I would love to see him debate a saudi or a chinese philosopher in their native language.

[@petermorris9592]

Channel4 tried their luck and got humiliated. Cathy Newman conducted the Worst. Interview. Ever.

[@streetpunk99]

I normally agree with Jordan but the US is to far invested in this now. The united states will simply out spend Russia. They cannot possibly sustain a war with 1950s equipment and limited amounts of modern equipment.

[@TaZ101SAGA]

"Nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won."

[@pkwong1940]

Pedersen is so correct Russia cannot lose. Ukraine cannot win. Stupid to believe otherwise.

[@felyxt]

Already the whole West is against Russia. If they lose it's the end of Russia. So the West must remember that.

[@kethughes8266]

Congrats Russia you win a big pile of rubble that stinks of death that you cannot afford to rebuild and who's people hate your guts.Not forgetting the 10's of thousands of dead Russians.What winners you are.

[@wingedhussar1453]

nah he said this then piers Morgan actually got him by saying winning would be Russia leaving. he then agrees but does it in his own way by adding what seeing Ukraine in ruin is winning. this Dr seems to not want to debate or know what's right but loves hearing himself sound smart and talk

[@rustyshackelford5758]

@@wingedhussar1453 do you get confused by his big words?

[@eelrod2818]

@@wingedhussar1453 imagine u trying to outsmart Pedersen lmao

[@simpso0ns]

"You cannot win against someone you cannot say no to" Priceless

[@nikolayparygin610]

Period!

[@memyself2696]

Well, somehow he missed how the world said many NOs to Putin. 😅

[@98MTBiker]

The statement in itself is true but it does not apply here. The West has already said no to Putin. It's tough for Germany but most European countries can produce enough energy for their needs and the economy of the west is far stronger than that of Russia. Ukraine depends on western funding in this war but as long as Europe counties to supply enough weapons, Russia can't win.

[@Antaracavill]

@@memyself2696 The world said no temporarily, I live in Europe and i know the real situation. Things are bad in here ............ and it's getting worst

[@amanuelzewdie3650]

@@memyself2696 Majority of the world supports Russia.

[@luftgeist7671]

5:34 From a German perspective, this is not true. We had a government that subsidized solar energy, and we were the world market leader at the time. Then the successor government ended the subsidies and bought more cheap gas. Today, China is the world market leader in solar technology.

[@cressida00]

I can't stand Piers Morgan. Especially when he makes uniformed comments, then berates others 4 not agreeing with him. I spent time in Ukraine every year from 2010 to 2019. As far east as Luhansk and West 2 Rivne. Trust me about this, Ukrainians are very patriotic, in fact in a reckless way. They will always follow emotion over reason. In Kyiv U will always hear the mantra (push Russia back 2 1991 border).In 2017 while in Kyiv, I over heard American business men talking in a restaurant. Talking about how much money they could make out of Ukraine. If U go east there will b a very different opinion. Most of the guys fighting for Ukraine are over 40 years old. Ukraine is trying 2 fight a war, while protecting its youth. We are about 2 see this policy changed. Very soon they will start drafting the young men. Watch what happens when Ukraine tries 2 do this.

[@Michael-ew5my]

He's controversial because he tugs at people's insecurities with truth... He makes them uncomfortable because he doesn't give them the space to feel empowered with their own short sighted bullshit.. this man is a genius when facing real problems .. ty Dr peterson

[@xgladar]

"remember when pride was a sin? And Ellen page just had her breasts removed by a criminal physician" , if you wonder why that tweet is controversial, or why it doesn't face any real problem besides Petersons innate hate, youre stupid beyond help

[@brent.johnson]

He's controversial because a lot of what he says is incorrect. He's interesting when it comes to psychology, but he mostly doesn't know what he's talking about regarding politics. He thinks Putin is going to war with the West because of "wokeness". He's objectively a bit of a dumby with politics, but he fits the alt-right narrative so some people who are suckers for confirmation bias love him.

[@ructionradius2888]

Yeah but he's also full of shit in his opinions about Putin.

[@raygrange7312]

First time I've seen Morgan speechless 😆

[@oladipoabimbola392]

Can't agree more...

[@geraldlukaniuk7822]

The gut that says an anus is as good as a vagina. Got his head stuck in an elephants ass.

[@ecurb10]

I think because he's trying to work out what Peterson is saying, which isn't exactly clear.

[@christinalynn8143]

A descriptively intense exchange of sorts, an individual take on/assessment of some heavy, some very heavy subject matter, a tad touch of humor that which isn't exactly funny, more of a funny not funny but funny.

[@drakecerberus7193]

@@ecurb10 to be fair his questions were in disarray as well. He's just throwing questions left and right steering the conversation to a frenzy.

[@Wally-H]

How to you define 'losing'? Losing the territory they've gained except for the Crimea? Losing the territory including the Crimea? Losing in the sense of being able to do nothing more than hold on to the Crimea, much of the disputed eastern territories and the southern corridor but able to do no more? or, do we define defeat as being Putin's failure to annexe the whole of the Ukraine? It's 'naive' to discuss the question when you don't know what you can even define as being a defeat. There are simply too many permutations to know.

[@chriscruciat2469]

About totalitarianism: Peterson said “we see it here with cancel culture” so true

[@tommccabe8441]

Cancel culture is about stopping the younger generation being warned about what's really happening by the older generation.

[@ontherightsideofthecoin8228]

And with white people are going to be a minority in their own homeland soon

[@theidajawho]

Love it..."Lie or else!"

[@christopherstephens8837]

How many people has so called ' cancel culture ' killed compared to what the Russian invasion of Ukraine has done. What a preposterous comparison.

[@miscellaneousz2681]

Cringe comment

[@alphakilo9066]

".....That's just poor people...." So scary because it is exactly true.

[@rrandy8432]

and "the planet already has too many people anyway"

[@bundleofhumble3119]

It will also create millions of new poor people, so don't think it will not effect you and fear the wrath of 350 million people ready to do anything to survive.

[@bundleofhumble3119]

@TEDDY K2 Yes, i also found it ironic that Putin used Nazi propaganda on Ukraine and celebrates a WW2 victory while Russia was one of the Country's creating WW2 and was allies with the Nazi's. I still can't believe Russians buy the story of Ukraine or Nato wanting to attack Russia and therefore they need to attack Ukraine. It has always been about recources in any shape or form. Russia has a declining Economy and a declining population. Now it starts wars for recources and is deporting millions of people like the Nazi's but for different ends. It is also indoctrinating children from any race to be a mindless soldier or citizen, much like the Ottomans and Nazi's did. They might even start cloning soldiers if they had the chance. In many ways Russia's regime has become the new Nazi's.

[@Shiva-jw5ds]

@TEDDY K2 primarily Europe

[@yam2050]

@@Shiva-jw5ds Europe will pay..have always paid.

[@dktky5658]

Here we are 5 months later. Dr. said it.

[@BanderaFighter]

So now that it's been over 8 month after this interview and the winter is over. How does it all compute? What was the expectation from the winter in the first place anyway?

[@wilmerday343]

Human nature is imperfect

[@antoinettekankindi6807]

"It's not that you love the environment, it's that you hate humanity"... Dr Peterson 👌

[@RB-pf6dz]

👏

[@078691]

I think ‘middle class environmentalists’ may hate the stupidity of humanity, but they do not hate humanity as attempting to help it isn’t usually a sign of hate. Slating something (like Dr Jordan Peterson is very good at) is usually a sign of hate

[@jimmycricket5366]

So true it's scary... It doesn't matter if it damn well scares you!!! If it's reality that Peterson talks about it will bite you into misery and then all the silly climate fearmongering will fade into nothingness.

[@phildynerphotography5049]

@@078691 No, they actually do. They don’t like poor people and they despise the rich.

[@Relevance4life]

@@078691 if you think it’s your job to ‘save’ the planet, you are the beginning of evil.