Nadu vs Kenrith vs Tevesh/Kraum vs Tymna/Kraum | CEDH Tournament | TopDeck Titans

[@alanschellenberger9356]

yep thats nadu, super unfun to play against haha but its probably a blast to pilot

[@Baneslayer88]

it is in fact a blast to play haha

[@matthewrose8002]

This is cEDH, it is just as unfun to play against that as someone who who is doing a turbo naus line into an instant win.

[@Sarkhamy]

I don't understand why this is why less fun than watching your opponent resolve ad nauseum? Because it takes more time? Your both revealing a high number of cards and then spending 30 minutes figuring out how that kills.

[@alanschellenberger9356]

@@Sarkhamy nadu is much more durdley than naus. Naus turns don't take nearly as much time

[@matthewrose8002]

@@Sarkhamy Both can take a long time to play out and neither are guaranteed to win the game. Cedh players are masochists' since they usually only win 20% of the time. Takes a different mindset to play it than casual.

[@_leontheprofessional]

Bro was so being so childish lol

[@RaGeMaGeGaming]

I feel this is how a lot of Midwest/East Coast players get 😂

[@MageSkeleton]

We all paid or made effort to have the cards we have as a commander deck to play with them. Not gather to watch one player win or whiff as they painstakingly have to ensure to follow the rules on how to get there.

[@jacobna2080]

That Kenrith player was about to make me mute the video

[@quintinhubbard3038]

Dude this one guy was being such a baby. Jeeze

[@bilaldjzniceva4872]

i thought people werent supposed to get angry in cedh, but that commander is crazy

[@NickNicolay-ih4zi]

THE SALT WAS REAL 🤣

[@trenchaus]

Nadu shoudve never have been printed .

[@MageSkeleton]

how is this not the top comment?

[@firefighter0ger809]

a small thing, but those matter sometimes. you missed one Aphetto trigger in the second turn cycle. on the third players turn you can tap aphetto three times

[@Baneslayer88]

thats true and its actually important to remember that when playing the deck

[@CHULAKable]

Thanks for the share love seeing this deck in action, glad another creature deck has arrived to the format

[@Baneslayer88]

and its super fun too!

[@christianroberts1121]

Great game play. Unfortunately with Bristly Bill and Springheart, since they both trigger on landfall and you must declare targets to put them onto the stack, the new token is the only think you CANT target with Bill.

[@Baneslayer88]

oh good catch!

[@baamxxv63]

Nadu is the son between tayam and kinnan for how much it annoys people 😂

[@PrimeShifter]

Why not tergrid and krarKashima?

[@3N3MYKN1GHT]

​@primeshifter1699 cause tergrid doesn't have 100000 triggers to resolve every time someone does something. And if krakishima goes for it, it's usually on their turn since most rituals are sorceries.

[@PrimeShifter]

@@3N3MYKN1GHT brightstone ,pyretic ,desperate rituals and battle hymn are all instants

[@MageSkeleton]

i'd compare Nadu to The Gitrog Monster and Thrassios Triton Hero.

[@smack80]

I will be fair to say that Springheart nantuko is just word soup for the sake of being complicated. It probably had an elegant design earlier in the design process but they just lost the plot. Very easy to misunderstand.

[@ysendy7027]

@5:08 is there a reason why you didn't try to target nadu with the alchemist to get a trigger?

[@fienddube]

You want to keep alchemist untapped on all your opponents’ turns. If you target Nadu, then Alchemist is staying tapped until your turn (unless you’re referring to the opponent’s end step right before the Nadu player’s turn. In that case, he either forgot, or he wanted to keep Alchemist handy in case anyone tried removing Nadu. He could respond by untapping his talisman and countering or Chain of Vapor or whatever).

[@ysendy7027]

@@fienddube i was referring opp end of turn before nadu player, he probably forgot, there is not many reason to not activate alchemist for the third time.

[@drunkenproductionz8299]

Will you share the Nadu decklist or any other of the decklists?

[@nebDDa]

Isaac why tutor a rhystic study to the top of your deck if you don’t have the third mana source in hand. How were you gonna cast it

[@MageSkeleton]

Are you talking about 2:20? Cause he's got an island and ancient tomb which meets the CMC of Rhystic Study.

[@jhonerbilsinforoso307]

Can i see the list of the NADU commander thankyou

[@beegeezus]

I honestly don’t believe Nadu will exist longer. The popularity it’s reached will be too many people playing it and I wholeheartedly believe it get the Banhammer

[@flowskills1187]

nice to see you back!

[@twhite9615]

As a game creator, how do u fix absolutely busted cards that are exponentially more powerful than 99.9% of your other cards? You just print another busted card. WotC has a balancing issue.

[@SpaceAznZen]

The main busted point of Nadu is that lands do not come into play tapped. That's the one change that would basically eliminate Nadu from cEDH and be completely fine for everything else.

[@MageSkeleton]

The Gitrog Monster is kept in check in that if you exile the graveyard he normally dies and there's normally nothing he can do if such happens. Furthermore, he really only has Dakmor Salvage to combo with which still requires having things that can shuffle either from the graveyard into the library or shuffle the entire graveyard into the library. Life from the Loam can substitute but takes more things to make happen. Nadu Winged wisdom wants you to amass an army like white and target them like it's a fashion show! Access to counterspells and he can reset his ability. The Gitrog Monster can be fended off by a Tormods Crypt. Nadu Winged Wisdom has literally nothing to fear. i have more respect for Elsha of the Infinite and Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain.

[@pippofelipe6901]

LMAO. "No no... read the card again". Your opponent looked so salty, i wonder why 😅😅 🐦

[@Baneslayer88]

lol! 🐦

[@MageSkeleton]

i find it suspicious that Nadu and a card that fully synergizes with Nadu is in the same set.

[@Brandon-zq3wh]

Where tf did he get that teferi jackson mat lmao

[@haunakahzombie7899]

No decklist?

[@Hamsterlovin]

do you have a decklist for nadu?

[@MageSkeleton]

Nadu Winged Wisdom (Commander) Shuko, Lightning Greaves, Umbral Mantle, Trophy Mage, Trinket Mage, Tribute Mage, Aphetto Alchemist, Springheart Nantuko, Scute Swarm, Field of the dead, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Laboratory Maniac, Thassa's Oracle, Counterspells and land.

[@PrimeShifter]

@@MageSkeleton seeker of skybreak and venerated rot priest are also good

[@PrimeShifter]

@@MageSkeleton as well sylvan paradise and sea kings blessing both staples

[@dieentdeckung]

It's everything I hate about cedh, dang. If this card stays legal then we can unban hullbreacher right

[@qwertytarr]

The Kenrith dude was salty asf, but also if you're gonna play Nadu you need to be *quick* with your plays.

[@1Fsypro]

post the list

[@Aarclannius2021]

That dockside extorionist player has no right to get upset, especially when the nadu player revealed a strix serenade.

[@bobthor9647]

If Isaac had tutored for a Bird kill spell it might have been a different game

[@MrDavidmauck]

Traitor! You switched off Sisay! lol

[@Baneslayer88]

only momentarily tho lol, been playing Sisay lately

[@MrDavidmauck]

@@Baneslayer88 I need more Sisay slaying videos please and thank you.

[@bobthor9647]

People get nervous or toxic for some reason when they realize the game might be over soon . I still like to use the stack and priority correctly, but a lot of players enjoy shortcuts in what can be a 10-minute game. 🐦

[@jamallynch1218]

bruh was so salty Nadu is supper cracked just don't let it land and if it does kill it asap run more REMOVAL!!!!!

[@justinmaynard8305]

This is such a zzzzz to watch. Fuck me. Hate to play and have to watch someone pilot this.

[@Pechko]

He really was so salty. Am I the only one crazy enough to think this card could get banned eventually?

[@justinmaynard8305]

@@Pechko salty cause the dude took like 2 hours playing with his cock basically. Either have an infinite combo or stop wasting ppls time.

[@Ex4_]

@@Pechko Nah, we don't get any bans in EDH. As if the RC would do anything.

[@Spirited_skiing]

@@Pechkodepends on what it does in casual. I think it will self-regulate there and people will just need to respect it more in cedh. Once they do it will hopefully recede like the equally miserable to play against krarkashima decks

[@PipebombMTG]

Brother actually just lied 😂😂

[@gabrielkopp9248]

I would’ve told the Kenrith player to keep the salt in check by the 3 min mark 🙄

[@fivecolorscotty]

Nadu is on another level of must kill

[@juggernautstark1]

1. Turn order matters! 2. Nadia opened cracked 3. GG

[@carloromero5871]

The most toxic and salty pod I’ve seen in a while.

[@nose1994]

Please put camera centered to playmat and more close up. Not full Desk

[@dekina1198]

You have to do this for online tournaments as a way to be cheat proof. Could be that you have a card laying on the desk etc.

[@LoboGuarah]

Dekina is correct. On Tournaments you must show more than just your playmat.

[@WowItzNemo]

Why is the one guy so damn insufferable?

[@christianescobar3209]

Damn, they were butthurt as hell, just dont play against Nadu if you are gonna get that mad lol

[@hellNo116]

Nadu is the classic simic deck that loses to a board wipe and a removal of the commander. Too bad cedh doesn't run board wipes :p

[@Baneslayer88]

I agree, but there are board wipes like Toxic Deluge and in fact we (all 3 Nadus) lost to a Deluge from Tivit in the finals

[@hellNo116]

@@Baneslayer88 i know we have deluge, some may run damn and that weird rakdos one. the issue is that not every deck runs like 3 or 4 of them outside their tutors. which is fully logical. i would be surprised if some sacrificed 1 to 2 slots for board wipes. advancing our gameplan in cedh is number one priority. i believe the fact that we don't run that many board wipes is the reason this deck works so well.

[@Big_Appa-]

Doc was being so salty. YO DUDE ITS THE RULES. They are separate triggers. He does each one individually because each reveal could change how he goes about resolution. Doc you’re a super mid player and give the format a bad name. Go back to 60 card formats you scrub.

[@joshholmes1372]

Yeah, he CAN shortcut, but depending on what resolves the playlines shift. You should be trying to play quicker though, knowing you are playing a slower deck. People that pilot nadu will learn the lines quicker and get faster at piloting it.

[@Infamouscritter]

bro Chicobi was so salty LOL the others were cool and just playing , Chicobi on the other hand had salt on his face the second dockside got counterd. WEll anyway Goodgame , not a big of cEDH personally i like games to play out fast games get boring but it was fun watching Nadu pop off even if i hate nadu as a card what insane value it has

[@nebDDa]

If you’re not a fan of cEDH why did you click on this video

[@Aarclannius2021]

Nah, that guy "knew" the nadu player had a strix serenade in his hand because he revealed it. He straight up shouldn't have played dockside with that knowledge.

[@iiiAias]

That dude is annoying, you guys know who

[@Kheavenn]

someone tell that isaac dude to chill…

[@SpaceAznZen]

Do you mean Doc Lime? Isaac was basically just watching everything unfold while the other two players were constantly commenting.

[@Kheavenn]

@@SpaceAznZen yes my apologies

[@TripsAhoy]

Let me guess...you win this pod? Thats why we slare seeing it. Yeah yeah. Blah blah. 😂😢😂😢😂😅

[@itchmon]

I feel like Nadu pilots need to be able to play really fast. A lot of the salt seemed to come from the slow rolling aspect (reminds me of another card that caught a ban, paradox engine)

[@SpaceAznZen]

This was turn 3, and as long as hes taking meaningful game actions, which he was, there's nothing he was doing that was wrong. Just because he was having to explain every interaction, which is part of the stacks/ruling that he has to, there's nothing you can do other than interact or just sit back and wait for everything to play out.

[@Molchat161]

also its a pretty new deck right? i mean sure he has probably practiced a bit with it but i feel like with time players will get more used to the nadu play pattern which will makes turns faster

[@rhettnorman8451]

ok so he uploaded the wrong game??? this isn't a pod of 3 nadu

[@Baneslayer88]

you're right, just changed it, thanks for letting me know!

[@Velinastus]

When you play cEDH and get salty that someone is popping off.. People *Play to Win* (wink) fast and efficiently.. Build better decks and mulligan for better hands when you see certain commanders at the table..

[@TheBadass98]

Chicobi was being such a bad sport. Of course Dockside had to be countered. I wouldn't want to play with someone like that again.

[@lilyberry8268]

Doc Lime has the worst personality.

[@Aarclannius2021]

Being salty in cEDH just means you are a sore loser. If you are playing "BY THE RULES," then you have every right to play whatever card you want. Run more removal in your decks.

[@msolace580]

gave up om vid too many slow dice for the draws. it aint that hard to say draw draw...

[@LateTeens709]

They aren't draws. Good piloting and clear/cincise gameplay is more important than shortcutting. It's literally tournament gameplay.

[@TappedNTriggered]

Why get annoyed when other commanders win the same turn. Ole boy was mad annoying too.

[@nicolasahumadaherrera3899]

Nadu the boring commander ever. Krark Saka more fun that this aajajjajajajaj

[@bobthor9647]

A powerful but horrible bird . Undetermined wins are the worst, so are tokens etc . Cool video tho ty 😊

[@lollorere9700]

Honestly you guys deserve that soo bad , all of you kept a greedy hand with no interactions well this is what happen if nadu resolve , Kenrith player big mouth all he did was a rhystic study the whole game and still talk too much. You 3 got absolutely got destroyed HHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@diegorezi5760]

Nadu is problematic

[@dekina1198]

When the one guys said you can shortcut the nadu triggers, i think you should have done that. Say "tap aphetto twice to trigger nadu twice" or something like that. Also once you got the greaves i would have said it again "equip nantuko twice" and resolve 2 triggers. If you are unsure about if it is okey to shortcut those, just ask. Also i personally would have done the Aphetto tap dance in each players upkeep. Priority goes around everytime someone wants to change phases. And doing it in their upkeep gives you the best spot to interact, like chasting chain or rhystic, without them getting their draw. nadu is the love child between tymna and kinnan... More potential card adventage then tymna can generate and he even cheats mana a bit, since the lands come into play... He is just busted. Also opening with turn 1 aphetto (or seeker of skybreak) and then not getting a responce to nadu is probably the dream for this deck! The dude that tutored for rhysic probably should have tutored for removal and cast it inresponce of one of your equips to interrupt you, instead of getting a rhysic that he can't play, lol. I understand the saltyness of your opponents a bit, especially if their rounds didn't go well or they had annoying interactions. But man, this was kinda hard to watch. I personally think, if Nadu would be more determenistic somehow, many people would pick him up. But if you opponents don't conside, like they did in the Video, it can lead to a 10 minute long play sasion of solitare and you trying to figuring out how to win with that much advnetage, if dodn't get into a real combo, which feels super bad. Very annoying to watch and also to play(for me)

[@douglaswarren7369]

Doc time was so annoying made this video unwatchable

[@bobthor9647]

Press Like on video if you hate Nadu and leave a thumbs up 👍

[@richardvaughan9685]

Nadu games are so boring! It should be banned

[@sorenstanley3023]

That looked annoying. I agree with Doc Lime. That Nadu player was putting me to sleep with how slow he was

[@SpaceAznZen]

Bad take; This was turn 3, so there was plenty of time to play his deck. As long as he's taking meaningful game actions, which he was, you can get mad all you want but there's nothing you can do about it other than be salty.

[@koolaiddude7685894]

Im sure Doc Lime will give you insane sloppy top for this glazing my dude. Crying in cedh is cringe, plain, and simple.

[@superstarichiban]

Seems bannable.

[@bobthor9647]

There hasn't been a card banned in Commander for 40 years tho 😊

[@tokertalk9648]

LOL Nadu gonna get banned

[@AdaWongMistress]

Nadu is really an overtuned card

[@brianjoson2079]

Do you have a deck list?