Nakam: The Jewish Revenge Plot to Kill Six Million Germans

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[@benthomason3307]

Ironically the entire point of that eye for an eye law was to _prevent_ endless cycles of revenge by _limiting_ the punishment.

[@artorhen]

Even though the eye for an eye logic is what creates a cycle of revenge

[@edwardwindsor2516]

@@artorhen I guess it basically means keep the punishment proportional to the crime committed

[@artorhen]

@@edwardwindsor2516 it means make the punishment symmetrical to the crime. That doesn't mean the type of sentence that is used in a lot of countries for killing a person, which is a consensus on what is a proportional punishment for said crime that resumes to a number of years in prison, but if you want to be true to what eye for an eye means, then a person should receive the death sentence for killing a person. I believe it has to be common knowledge why that would become a flawed judgement.

[@benthomason3307]

@@artorhen at the time the law was written, if someone gouge out your eye, you would gouge out both of his, an then he'd get his brother an gouge out there of your family's eyes, and then you four of his, and so on. Hammurabi was trying to nip that in the bud when he wrote this law.

[@justanoman6497]

@@artorhen The problem with the death penalty have less to do with whether it's right and more to do with the fear of getting things wrong. Death, after all, is rather irreversible. And the fear of being wrong in turn makes the process extremely inefficient and expensive as we want to be as certain as we can be, which makes it unfeasible even in an economic sense.

[@paulkoedel3099]

Confucius, wisely stated, "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."

[@pinkmail6841]

good saying

[@inothing7370]

One for their body, one for their family?

[@mynameisjefffromdowntheblo7649]

I read that after winning a game of br in cod mobile they give quotes from different people they have some great lines

[@aryehyehudahajzenberg9503]

No ! It wasn't Confucius ! It was the General Shun Tzu ! It is written in his work "The Art of War"

[@Skippy-id9yt]

@@aryehyehudahajzenberg9503 yes yes we can all look it up too ,

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

‘An eye for an eye’ applies to the eyes of the criminal, not someone who shares his nationality.

[@andrewmclaughlin2701]

The world is too stupid to comprehend reason.

[@zeitghost1321]

Says the whyt Texan looking to be spared from consequences of the atrocities of your people have committed

[@fraxizztv6433]

That's not very narrow minded of you 😢

[@botsharing1702]

The germans weren't lacking freewill.

[@ponytoast1231]

@@botsharing1702 They were literally under a dictatorship.

[@zappababe8577]

3:22 A survivor of Auschwitz, Kitty Hart, had said that she wanted to kill a German with her own hands as soon as she was able to. She, and a band of helpers, got some Germans cornered in a kitchen. The others around her were shouting words of encouragement, reminding her of what she had said she wanted to do. However, all Kitty Hart could see was some very frightened people and she decided that she wasn't going to hurt any of them. She emigrated to the UK, and I'm very proud to say that she moved to a place which is close to where I live, and she became an X-ray Technician in a large hospital here! She has made a film of her giving a guided tour of Auschwitz to some young ladies who were the same age as her when she was liberated - just 15 years old. The years of suffering she had to endure, you just can't imagine how she managed to live through it. We should listen to the testimony of survivors like Kitty Hart, whilst they are still with us.

[@raptorhacker599]

listen for what? oppression is nothing new. everyone suffered from it

[@Know_Your_Enemy]

This Sounded like an amazing story BUT I *DOUBT IT’S TRUE,* I’ve Searched & There’s Absolutely *NOTHING ONLINE ABOUT THIS SUPPOSED EVENT TAKING PLACE!!!!!!* OP if you have a Source for this Story Please Link to it!!

[@jdools4744]

Fake story

[@trungson6604]

Hitler somehow caused even more German deaths during WW2, 6.4 to 7.9 Millions German deaths, so no revenge necessary.

[@TheTanveerGaming]

​@@jdools4744like your dad?

[@samielkhayri9272]

Blind revenge necessarily targets innocent people, some of whom may have been opposed to the original injustice. It is inherently unjust.

[@sizanogreen9900]

One of my ancestors was an SS officer, another was a german communist who barely survived the concentrations camps. One can not simply blame an entire demographic.

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

True, it's nonsensical & makes one no better than the one you're opposing.

[@nigeh5326]

An eye for an eye ends in the whole world being blind.

[@Strange9952]

Revenge is an entirely foolish and selfish HUMAN ANIMAL behaviour, and it doesn't make society any better

[@awnalnatsheh5359]

It's fine if Zionist do it aperintly any thing they do is justify in this channel

[@iitim2152]

As a pest control specialist, I can tell you why the results were less than spectacular. One because it was glued on the bottom there was so much possibility for poisonous material to be lost. Two bread being ingested at the same time as the poison would actually absorb the poison and spread out the effects making them longer lasting, but less sever. 3 the bottom of the loaf of bread is typically harder, and might have been discarded by many of the prisoners.... And lastly cats are super sensitive to poison, so if they based the dosage of that which was fatal for cats there dosage was off.

[@Ricky_Evans1611]

their*

[@Weirdkauz]

That’s why I like the comment section! Thanks

[@justafurrywithinternet317]

Nice

[@connordavis9772]

How stupid (and evil) must they be to kill cats with poison then assume it takes the same amount to kill a 4lbs cat than a 180lbs human hahahahaha

[@emeraldfinder5]

@@connordavis9772I mean, when your mind is full of a drive for revenge and mourning for family you’re not exactly going to be thinking perfectly

[@Michael-Hammerschmidt]

As Bertrand Russell once said, it''s too often true that, "People seem good while they are oppressed, but they only wish to become oppressors in their turn: life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim."

[@BluMacron]

yeah i heard something like that once, some prisoners want to be free but most just want to be the guard.

[@unsrescyldas9745]

That is why the oppressor is then killed, as no one wants to be killed, most of the time anyway.

[@bobdrooples]

Africa

[@cvn6555]

Yep. Look at South Africa today.

[@Somespideronline]

I mean, look at China today. They used to be oppressed by the Japanese

[@SMCwasTaken]

School Counselor: "You see kids, humans have thing called Empathy" Also Humans:

[@vincentngo3409]

Yes, they do have empathy. The avengers want the germans to feel the same pain they did. Because isnt empathy like witnessing the same emotions? I just find it interesting

[@justaperson1557]

This is kinda proof of that

[@jsw973]

If they have no empathy, they wouldn't have cared enough to plot revenge of this scale. This is the terrible side of human empathy.

[@wolverinexo6417]

The Germans lacked it.

[@Kingrich_777]

If you saw your ppl fall victim to genocide after genocide, program after program, what would you do?

[@awesomesauce980]

If the murder of children is an atrocity, "getting even" will never be justice. The ball has to stop somewhere, even if it leaves a bad taste our mouth.

[@zhouwu]

Maybe that's why we, humanity, need Jesus as our substitute, to take the blows, the Righteous on behalf of the many unrighteous, that the ball might stop with Him. Cycles of revenge have been ongoing in my ancestral homeland of China, between families, between ethnic groups, between regional entities, between any two or more entities. So far, only Jesus has brought true peace to my people. Apart from Jesus, the next best thing is one group of bullies intimidating all the other smaller bullies into not taking their anger out on each other. But that's not a lasting solution the way Jesus' Propitiatory Death is.

[@buni1934]

@@zhouwu Jesus or muhammad

[@src3360]

@@shatteredteethofgod Well said

[@helpiamstuckonthismanshead3385]

@@shatteredteethofgod for good to exist there needs to be bad

[@jordanwhite8718]

@@helpiamstuckonthismanshead3385 That line of thinking makes no sense. Nobody in their right mind hast to eat crap in order to appreciate something like chocolate cake just so that they know how delicious cake is. Cake is delicious just by itself. Same thing with good and evil. Good is just good on its own and it doesn’t need to be compared with evil. How would you even do that anyway?

[@british35]

The biggest example of “Two wrongs don’t make a right”

[@XavierBonapart]

It feels right tho

[@SMCwasTaken]

​@@XavierBonapartedgy rebellious teenager detected

[@ZoanBlade90]

They make a left.

[@british35]

@@ZoanBlade90 Lol

[@ceciland18]

Two lefts make a right

[@Cman04092]

Damn, I never knew of this plan. I mean, I can totally understand the want for revenge, but doing the same thing to other mostly innocent people is crazy. As they say "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

[@iron_side5674]

That´s exactly why i HATE Jigsaw. I´d rather have people who don´t care then those with a twisted sense of justice.

[@alm5992]

"They" is Ghandi. Guess it wasn't like he was huge or popular or anything...

[@garretth8224]

It would lead to a one eyed man leading the blind.

[@cherrydragon3120]

I can imagine, if this revenge plan was actualy happening. How germany would respond to that. Pretty dang sure it would spark a whole new war all over again.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

@@cherrydragon3120 Not only Germany remember that allied soldiers were stationed in Germany and would had ended up dead as well it would had turned the entire world against Jews like never before and this time with reason. It would had been the death of the Jewish state before it even began. In short the results would had been catastrophic for the Jewish people first and foremost.

[@dre_withwithout]

“Never again” was supposed to mean for anyone. Empathy though is a superpower

[@terrysanders5109]

Not for the Palestinians

[@SkibMikeBDS]

@@terrysanders5109 Yes, the Palestinians don't have any empathy or even any self worth. They support a terrorist group that couldn't care less what they brought to their people and hide luxury apartments in Qatar and in tunnels while the people are meant to fend for themselves. They tear water pipes out of the ground to build rockets and store weapons in nurseries. And yet, the Palestinian people support them, why? Because they want revenge above all else, even if it means killing their own children.

[@JohnWilliams-gy5yc]

Hitler can exist in any culture. Prejudice is always a stupid thing that a lot of people can never leave behind.

[@_Devil]

Ironically, if the Jews had carried out this type of revenge, it would have (in the eyes of the Germans) proven Hitler correct in his thesis. Hitler believed that the Jews were part of a shadowy organization that sought the downfall of the German Race, so if something like this happened, then Hitler would have unfathomable influence to this day in modern day German politics.

[@getabagbrick1444]

Jews are now the new Hitlers

[@yugmathakkar4023]

True. Churchill is like Hitler but for Indians

[@maisenbrown196]

It lives today in this transgender shit that ultimately leading to....

[@dedrickhermine6974]

Just thin about Italians, they by no means shared that kind of ideological zeal of Germens.

[@JEP-Tech]

It's not even an eye for an eye. The concept of it was to apply a fitting/equivalent punishment to the person(s) who committed the crime. You can't punish the son for the sins of the father so to speak. Killing innocent people because other people with their same nationality committed crimes against your people isn't eye for an eye. You are just making yourself a criminal and justifying your own execution. I always disliked the expression that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. An eye for an eye doesn't leave the whole world blind, it only doubles the number of people who lose an eye so to speak, and the 2nd one is always the one who first took the eye, not some innocent bystander. If a thief steals from you it is right to make them repay you. It doesn't justify stealing from someone else as two wrongs don't make a right.

[@Buorgenhaeren]

The germans voted the NSDAP into power democratically, they deserved worse than what the british and soviets did to them.

[@JEP-Tech]

@@Buorgenhaeren So even the Germans who didn't vote for them should be killed to? That makes no sense.

[@jakeg3126]

I agree, but we’re looking at it in future. It’s history, you have to put yourself there to analyze it, what would you think if you were Jewish during the time of the halocaust? If I was around then, I don’t think I would’ve thought of it as bad or evil idea, but just stupid People were getting ordered and maybe even ordered to ordered to round up you, your family and friends and send them to a “camp” where same thing was going on but it was to kill them. It’s also way easier to kill someone if ordered because you feel like your not doing the killing, I think it was the Friedman experiment that proved how if your ordered to do something evil it’s easier to do it because it feels like someone else is doing it in your head.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

I think the saying an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind comes from the fact that seeking revenge in that manner would lead to family feuds in the past that got out of hand. For example a man gets shot, and then a family member of the dead man decides to shoot the person responsible (eye for an eye) but then the family of the person he's killed decides that either their family member was justified to shoot the original man, or innocent, or that it was an accident and he doesn't deserve to be shot for an accident and that they deserve revenge - so one of them goes out and shoots the man who shot the man who shot the original man. Eventually they all end up killing one another, all the while feeling morally justified in their actions because an eye for an eye, right? These days that doesn't happen in most of the world due to how much better law enforcement is, and nobody wants to go to jail even if they feel like they're morally justified to cut out somebodies eye or whatever else but in the past that was a real issue so you can see why they would think a saying like "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" would be a good thing to drill into people to try and avoid these types of escalating feuds.

[@y_kazz3263]

"you can't punish the son for the sins of the father" someone made this comment before actually looking into hammurabi's code. there is literally laws about killing the son because the father killed someone else's son.

[@BasedRanger]

I'd argue that the greatest, most brutal Jewish revenge plot of all time was Mel Brooks making the number _"Springtime for Hitler"_ in _The Producers._

[@genewickersham4593]

I agree that humor is the best weapon. But if my jokes fail, I keep a rifle handy.

[@PhilipFry.]

​@@genewickersham4593 Based

[@GDKF0238]

@Gene Wickersham cause you can’t fight? Lol

[@Domdeone1]

And the film in glorious Basterds

[@Allnewsweb]

My mother was born in the Cracow Ghetto. The idea of such a revenge plan, and I say this with certainty, would be abhorrent and vile to my grandparents. There would not be a bone in their body that it would resonate with. It's an abomination. In any conflict there are two or more sides to a story. I wouldn't want anyone to ever think say myself, as a Jew, would find anything redeeming in such a perverse idea.

[@ricardohumildebrabo]

But killing Palestineans is fine, right. The cycle must go on.

[@captainl-ron4068]

It was the genocidal nature of European Jews at the time that was a major contributing factor to the Holocaust. It’s like Hitler read the book ‘Germany Must Perish’ and then pulled out his Uno Reverse card.

[@Zer0fuks]

Unfortunately it's the "Quaker" sensibilities (Quakers refuse to fight) that led to 10,000+ Jews being crammed into overflowing train cars and guarded by only *TEN* armed Germans with bolt action rifles. Like cattle shuffling along into the slaughterhouse, the very thing George Washington warned us all about in his farewell address of 1796.

[@Buceesfanmaarten]

Also, let's keep in mind that 6 million number is highly debateable.

[@chromium_.0]

​@maarten4288 how so?

[@bandvitromania9642]

This takes the quote "you have become the very thing you swore to destroy" to a new level

[@mho...]

well, they live it every day in Israel =/

[@waynejohnson1786]

@@mho... Agreed, they’ve became what they hated. Now they’re stealing land and oppressing ethnic/religious minorities.

[@vagrant-techart8278]

It is not like they didn't fk about back then

[@mt000mp]

israel.

[@darklanov]

Indeed. Zionism is the Jewish equivalent of Fascism

[@thatguyfromak5190]

To think after going through an genocide, the takeaway some people had from it was “Let’s do it again but to others!” Humanity is real sad…

[@Seymourjohnson69]

If you watched the nazis brutalize your family in a death camp and barely escaped with your own you probably wouldn’t be thinking all that clearly either would you?

[@Thoralmir]

You end up seeing a lot of that in Attack on Titan.

[@Pau-hl1zg]

@@Thoralmir ...

[@drpk6514]

They are doing it to the Palestinians. But they learnt a lot from the Nazis. This time they have the PR on their side.

[@SaundersYT]

@@Thoralmir bruh did you seriously just bring up an anime on a video about a REAL genocide? Jesus Christ read the room dude.

[@avalynpoe4441]

Nakam remains one of the most fascinating stories from the immediate aftermath of the war. As despicable as their goals were, it makes me wonder: what meaning does morality even hold for a person when you witnessed your family, friends, community and people massacred? When you've seen so much death and so much misery, does adding more into the world even feel like much of a difference?

[@karlwikman3874]

Vengeance isnt about justice, its about making the wrongdoer as miserable as you

[@rejvaik00]

@@karlwikman3874 well said vengeance brings nothing but misery and we all know misery loves company and it is indiscriminate on who it chooses This plot was never justified, but I can understand the reasoning When you loose literally everything as many of the survivors of the atrocity did your emotions are in a whirl and you can find yourself having nothing left to the point that your moral compass is effectively broken beyond belief

[@Wilhelm322]

@@rejvaik00 In that regard both the Jews and the Ethnic Germans fall into that Category. The Jews and the Ethnic Germans both lost everything they loved and both suffered beyond belief, so i would not have blamed those Ethnic Germans for taking revenge on Polish or Czechoslovak or any Civilians they came across, after what those Germans Suffered through.

[@Blastna22]

You then become the very monster you saw slaughter men women and children. We can understand what motivated them to this darkness. But it almost sounds like you justify those acts. Two wronged never make a right, anf anyone who kills children in the name or vengeance is no better than the natzis.

[@TheBigManWithTheBiggerPlan]

​@@Wilhelm322 Germans have nothing to take revenge over against the Czechs and Poles, anything they did in order to survive and punish the Germans was justified, and it was rarely severe either. I believe every person who voted for the NSDAP should have been removed as they had lost their humanity so eagerly, and thus should be treated as animals for condemning hundreds of millions to death simply for their race and religion.

[@mikec5400]

nobody can get you engrossed into a story like Simon does

[@Threemore650]

Zoomer History channel can.

[@frost.bytten2023]

Ever heard of Mr. Ballen?

[@josephmountford2292]

Mark Felton!

[@dustmystic291]

Eye for an eye is one of the most misunderstood/misused quotes in history. it was mean to *limit* the lengths of retaliation/punishment, not advocate mass murder. This is probably nothing new though - the fact it was misused even in ancient times is why many people think Jesus had to address it directly.

[@dekishajones282]

Umm the Bible is plagiarized! Nice try on the explanation tho! 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@dustmystic291]

​@@dekishajones282 If you were referring to how half of the bible is the same as parts of the Jewish holy text, that's easy enough to explain - Christianity was literally a splinter sect of Judaism. Most of the early church (including the apostles) were Jewish, considered themselves Jewish and were seen as a sect of Judaism by outsiders. The two groups didn't really split into "separate" religions until quite a bit later than I think people realize. Calling that Plagarism would be like calling the American use of the English language Plagarism - the settlers didn't copy it, they brought it with them because that's where a lot of them came from (yes obviously not all of them spoke English, but you get the point I'm trying to make). Also I wasn't trying to make any statements about Jesus vs. Judaism or anything like that, I was just pointing out that it was addressed at all by anyone means it was probably an issue people knew of at the time.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@dustmystic291 I'm pretty sure they were referencing how the Old Testament/Tora copied significant amounts of older mythology. Akkadian, Sumerian, Hittites and so on. Especially Genesis.

[@dustmystic291]

@@Alias_Anybody Again though, the same concept I mentioned earlier applies. Almost all cultures and religions are the product/influenced by both their neighbors and those that came before them. For example, concepts like angels or similar beings coming down to earth were what people generally believed in the region (several other non-Abrahamic religions still do even now) and almost every culture has a great flood narrative - when people build their cities in arable floodplains, a flood is the most common disaster the inhabitants can relate to.

[@dumigamez397]

Your pfp: Just why?

[@SidewaysN]

And today I just learned of Simon’s 53rd channel. What a glorious day. Why do I watch every single one? The coke man is practicing black magic allegedly. We’re all in the basement

[@leeinnes7127]

Allegedly. AM I RIGHT PETER?

[@joemckraken7960]

i have to delete a channel a month from this guy. talk about over saturation.

[@mlungisimokhethi6958]

Danny should just forget what the outside is.

[@philvanderlaan5942]

With the massive number of Simon Whistler channels are you sure it’s coke and not speed balls ?

[@jasonwright1687]

"Is that Rotting Turtle I smell, emanating from the basement?" "No..." said Simon, in his dead-pan sardonic voice, " it's all those damned fans of the channels... rotting away alongside a few writers and editors/ memeologists." .... "Danny! What did I tell you about two-page introductions!?!?!"

[@nicorybakov7539]

Instead of Nakam they commited Nakba...

[@Briselance]

Being one of the groups victim of a genocide is no "excuse" to even think about starting one. It never was, it never will be. That stance was utterly immoral.

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

Have to completely agree with you but strangely various 'religious texts' have gods demanding them or carrying them out.

[@isaiahthomas118]

@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 don't care fack qot

[@jinxedsphinx3600]

@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 I also agree but I also did not watch my family and loved ones get murdered / tortured / experimented on / treated like something less than a rat...

[@janwil8248]

Yeah its no excuse but you wil understand why somebody would want that

[@NamesZKP]

You can't play thought police.

[@savannahcatgiannis]

While I understand the sentiment, I am so thankful that this never happened. It would have been a colossal mistake of history, causing more misery and hate, and would probably descend into a downward spiral of revenge which continued until both peoples completely eliminated each other.

[@gamerdrache6076]

true if they would do that to my family or someone i know i m german i would do the same

[@drpavel_]

it's happening right now

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

@@drpavel_ they're smarter about it these days. I call it "Neo-social-eugenics".

[@iamdumbsometimes483]

It wouldnt have done nothing but made them equal

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

Honestly the Germans probably would have won. The European Jewish contributed to the war effort, but ultimately it was won because the Brits stepped in sucking us Americans in and giving the French a chance at bouncing back We all came together and agreed WW2 could never have been justified and were ready to pay in peace time to make sure nobody ever has to suffer a war like that again, which would have left those Jewish alone at best and more likely fighting the risen supers

[@Sniperboy5551]

To think, those who just experienced a genocide would plot to commit genocide. It’s disgusting, but it also reveals a lot about human nature.

[@vigneshkr7072]

You would too. Because that what a human would do.

[@osheridan]

​@@vigneshkr7072 Clearly not, since the vast majority of Jewish and Roma survivors were not involved in this.

[@Wilhelm322]

@@patriciabrenner9216 As a Jew myself i am Happy my people didn’t become blinded by Hatred. We shouldn’t kill those who are Innocent of a Crime.

[@patriciabrenner9216]

@@Wilhelm322 No German was innocent. Very simple. Men and women were criminals. And given what they did to millions of Jewish children, I couldn't care less about their kinder.

[@Wilhelm322]

@@patriciabrenner9216 Okay i’m a Jewish German so i don’t get sympathy because i’m German? What about the Jewish People killed by Allied Bombing in German Cities? The Allies Bombed Würzburg killing many Jewish Children there. My Family was Jewish and i lost nearly my entire Family in WW2 and i can tell you none of them did anything to deserve that fate.

[@toxogandhi]

"Nothing like that had happened before" Simon, you wot? Armenia says hi, I guess.

[@timmysleftnutsack5075]

Armenia, Assyria, Anatolia, Central Asia are all victims of turkic genocide :(

[@PolferiferusII]

Possibly at numerous other times before that, too, though called something other than 'genocide'. As I understand it (and I could be wrong), what modern scholars argue is that, as a concept, genocide is fairly recent. Meaning, they argue, that when one people set out to "whipe out" another people in antiquity, due to how those in antiquity conceived of "the world" and what, to them, comprised a "people", that what they thought they were doing when "whiping out" a people was also different in their minds. Or, also, that they couldn't conceive that it was remotely possible to kill off an entire people, so when they rid their lands of as many as possible, they knew some had escaped, and assumed there were many more elsewhere, behind some boundary line (a river; a chain of mountains, etc.), but then that they were virtually "completely gone" at least to beyond where they could ever threaten them for some long forseeable future. To me, though, even if they might not have been able to fully conceptualize killing an entire people from the earth, they would have done so, and happily done so, if they could. The Romans, in particular, seemed to harbor this sentiment with regard to the Carthaginians, and appear to have mostly (if not entirely) succeeded in genociding the Etruscans. Saying all of this, I realize that I'm traipsing across the counterfactual dilemma, and that even by modern contexts and definitions, killing off every last member of a people, nor even one group desiring such, is necessary to qualify an event as being a genocide. But I would argue the intent of the Nazis and the Turks would be relatively the same to that of the Romans had the Romans (and other even more ancient peoples) been able to understand the limits of earth, and the concept of a people, in the same way we do currently. Hopefully that made some sense. To be clear, I'm in agreement with you, I'm just going further. But I'm not sure if I'm just spit-balling or actually onto something. If I'm not, please set me straight. I just had a thought, inspired by your comment, and wished to examine it.

[@MRProgressor]

Holodomor send their regards too, I guess. They seem a bit naive on communism, as is not too uncommon unfortunately.

[@aredjayc2858]

I'm an Israeli Jew, I knew of this plot, and it brings me much 2nd hand embarrassment. That my people would stoop to the level of monsters in a vain belief that more blood would satisfy them. I'm glad more people will learn of it, so that they learn the pointlessness and futility of such a desire. Though I worry people will twist it to paint my Kin as equally bad or something. Thanks Simon for bringing it to light as though I might feel some embarrassment I recognize that it's good for people to know of it

[@gabreshaa8234]

It's ok bro

[@GeorgTheGr8]

Hey while you're at it can you tell your tribe to stop flooding Europe and America with brown people and replacing the whites? Thanks.

[@aredjayc2858]

@@GeorgTheGr8 Sure thing, so I should alter the laws of sovereign nations which I don't hold citizenship in to prevent citizens of other nations which I don't hold citizenship in from immigrating purely on the basis of their race, right? And how would I do that?

[@GeorgTheGr8]

@@aredjayc2858 Your tribe has subverted and currently controls all of those said sovereign nations so it shouldn't be difficult.

[@eival]

Yes all 50 of them.... by the way i understand them but i dont justify it though.

[@Raul_Menendez]

An eye for an eye makes makes both of you a pirate. YARRRRRR!

[@Briselance]

But... what about pirates with both eyes? :-O

[@suedenim6590]

@@Briselance they love the SEE 👀

[@johnanderson6946]

@@suedenim6590 bruh -_-

[@worldsgreatestdude1784]

The Khmer Rouge basically did a holocaust on their own population in the 70s. You can’t say that none have happened since, despite how awful it was because of Cambodia just 3 decades later

[@Morgeniv]

i happen to be an Israeli Living near Nuremberg, i can say that even today there is still an underline sentiment in the Jewish population in Israel to wish death upon the Germans. Honestly said, i find it really deplorable to have such sentiments today and even back then i wont find it justifiable.. Hate leads only to hate, many Germans were innocent ppl just going on with their lives under a cruel regime. Today many ppl ask how can the russian still support Putin and to that i say, what can a poor russian do to overthrow his dictator, when he knows that means risking his and his loved ones lives? I think the german population suffered enough throuout the war just like the rest of europe, with many starved, raped, worked to death camps and masacered too, yet of course, being the losers of the war, nobody seemed to care... 2 million German women raped, 22 Milion ethnic germans deported violently from their ancestral lands and many sent to forced Labor in unbearable conditions.. I myself experienced it first hand, being bullied for being to pale in complexion, leading to me avoiding school routinly on holocaust memorial day, or trips to Yad Vashem. Many ppl in Israel, especially those coming from the former USSR, suffer such abuse from their fellow countrymen... Youd think a ppl who suffered so much because of racism will rise above it and will be very tolerant, yet human nature prevail even the most noble desires. I recommend anyone interested to see the Netflix seire "Im Schatten des Mordes", which give a rare glimpse to the suffering of the conquered German ppl in the aftermath of ww2, even touching on the topic of Nakam. I will finish my comment by quoting a Rabbi from the serie, that when asked by another jew about Nakam he said that the only solution is either to go to Palestine or live in peace in Europe. Hate leads only to more hate which in the end leads to suffering, i believe the gratest virtue is forgiving even your worst enemies, weil only that will lead to peace.

[@AlbertaleoAlbertalei]

If only I could believe your pretty words. Alber- Latin translation (White) Einst- German translation (Once) Ein- German translation (One)

[@trungson6604]

Indeed, even the German people were victims of their own regime during WW2. Hitler somehow caused even more German deaths during WW2, 6.4 to 7.9 Millions German deaths, so no further revenge necessary.

[@caralhoguy]

@@AlbertaleoAlbertaleialbert

[@AceUzumazi]

"Revenge is like a poison. It can take you over, and before you know it, it can turn you into something ugly." - The other quote from Spider Man that more people need to remember. Or I haven't heard it enough.

[@bradmason4706]

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

who wrote spiderman? hitler told you an was killed (by you) for it. you sound like satan.

[@AceUzumazi]

@@ShawnJonesHellion You have issues, get help!

[@bensmith5288]

Don't quote spiderman like a baby

[@buni1934]

@Nicolai Myshkin you shut up

[@dedrickhermine6974]

Ironically, this type of revenge had already been done by the death of millions of expelled German settlers in East Europe.

[@Thermopylae2007]

While I don't know precisely how many people perished under those circumstances (though I suspect they may be in the millions) there's also plenty of evidence that several hundred thousand, if not a million German POWs died in the prisoner camps at the end of the war, mainly in those under French control. The fate of many Germans has been ignored by most historians.

[@Yami-5757]

My grandfather was one of them he was a pow from the brits first got taken to the south by train and was taken as pow by the french despite his release papers he was forced to work in a coal mine but he managed to escape after some time he said the brits and americans were fine men but the french caused all kinds of atrocities at least from what he saw​@@Thermopylae2007

[@adamredwine774]

FWIW, the image shown at the beginning 0:13 is not actually of Hamurabi, but rather of Shamash or Marduk. Hamurabi is always depicted with a tight, round cap with a tall brim. The mistake is forgivable as it is actually also mistakenly labelled this way in the US capitol building.

[@ryanc473]

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." -Gandhi Can't think of a better quote for such a heavy episode

[@timdillon4876]

Mercy, and forgiveness takes and shows far more strength then revenge and hatred.

[@SafetySpooon]

@@timdillon4876 Yeah, but when people keep asking that of the victims, they'll get more than a little fed up.

[@anshumannayak5633]

Gandhi*

[@DutchDread]

It's not true though, an eye for an eye leaves two people with only 1 eye.

[@kwhufc5769]

Nope the last person has 1 eye left..

[@annab13]

My dedo was 25kilo when he got out of a hard labour concentration camp. The only reason he survived is because one man who lived close by would risk his life to throw a loaf of bread over the fence. He always broke down in tears when he would get to, "if he had missed just one time".. he could never finish

[@9doesinterviews21]

What does dedo mean and what country is it from? Just wondering

[@davidfrager8234]

My grandfather escaped to China. A total of 5 out of my family on mom's side survived...oddly on fathers side , my great uncle was a Nuremberg Prosecutor named John Lewis from NY. Sorry your family went through that too

[@quan-uo5ws]

@@9doesinterviews21 idk but it sounds like grandpa in some slavic language.

[@ButterDog42069]

@@9doesinterviews21 in a lot of slavic languages that means grandpa, so could be any of them, or possibly Hebrew but I'm not sure about that

[@isaachirsch9288]

@@ButterDog42069 Not Hebrew.

[@Metallica4Life92]

This channel really lives up to its name, doesn't it. Holy smokes, Batman, heavy stuff.

[@badluck5647]

Only cause I know Simon isn't a skin-head, I would assume this one of those ridiculous, antisemitic conspiracies spreading all over the internet.

[@Brett_S_420]

BIFF!

[@LynnAgain83]

@@badluck5647 Would you prefer Antifa?

[@badluck5647]

@@LynnAgain83 No one wants to hear your Qaron conspiracy theories

[@jordinagel1184]

@@LynnAgain83 you mean that tiny group with no overarching organization, 90% of whose achievements and danger sprang purely from the minds of Fox news hosts and similar such demagogues? Riiiiiight…

[@Promses2Keep]

"Nothing like the Holocaust had happened before...or since..." _UNLESS_ you disregard Belgium's King Leopold's colonization of Congo from 1885 to 1908, where an estimated TEN MILLION died from killings, famine, and disease. Severed hands became the infamous symbol of the colonial state where officials brutally maimed those failing to deliver harvest quotas. Forced labour, corporal punishments, kidnapping, and slaughtering of rebellious villages were among other atrocities recorded during the period. So...yes. The Holocaust was horrible. But, at least it wasn't *_forgotten_*

[@CraigFThompson]

SHHEEIIT! Look at AMERICAN HISTORY, and see hundreds of millions of non-whites being killed off for no other reason than just pure greed!! This has happened over the course of more than 400 years already!

[@TauvicRitter]

That crime has never been published. And the guild rest upon the Belgian government doing nothing.

[@yougeay]

So what happened to all the REAL Americans?

[@electricink3908]

Ruthless exploitation is different from systematic , deliberate genocide...

[@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472]

Or the Armenian genocide

[@markcoren2842]

Another Simon channel to follow... I'm starting to think our benevolent host is the most advanced AI ever created who records videos at 10x to be able to keep all 75 channels going. Whatever the formula is, you nailed it Simon!

[@vurpo7080]

Simon is not running tons of channels all by himself of course, rather he acts as an actor and public face for lots of different channels run by otherwise different people. There are multiple different writers writing for their own informational channels, and Simon turns their scripts into videos.

[@prinsespluis]

We need a SimonTube!

[@vlkt282]

We already in it)

[@hidesbehindpseudonym1920]

His formula is to skim Wikipedia and other KZbin channels and then hire Lots of writers

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

"Revenge is like politics, one thing always leads to another until bad has become worse, and worse has become worse." -- Jonas Jonasson

[@dtikvxcdgjbv7975]

There were such genocides before (over Armenians, Assyrians, Syriacs, Chaldeans, Pontic Greeks...) Unlike many other perpetrators, Germans like to put all plans on paper and make precise updated logs. The others did not make such documentation, some pass the plans orally, so the obvious genocide plan and execution is visible from the number and ethnic pattern of the victims.

[@bigpapi6688]

It’s also worth noting that the Germans have apologized extensively, and have proven that they are truly abhorred at what their country once did. As for another genocide you mentioned… that country still claims nothing at all happened. I don’t have a drop of ill will towards a single German today because of the holocaust. They did literally nothing. I will never judge somebody for the sins of their ancestors. But I will absolutely hold a grudge for those that actively cover up the sins of their ancestors.

[@dtikvxcdgjbv7975]

​@@bigpapi6688 I agree. Germany today is the country that cares the most about the memory of Holocaust, and heavily sanctions any Holocaust deniers.

[@CraigFThompson]

​@@bigpapi6688GOOD! Then hold a grudge against the USA for its continued horrific treatment of Blacks and indegenous peoples!!

[@Jgfbg4743]

Lost me at: "If there was ever a revenge plot that at least sounded remotely justified it may have been this..."

[@aproxamillionwasps474]

… okay and?

[@Jgfbg4743]

@@aproxamillionwasps474 ... and? okay.

[@bluesrock88]

I would say almost justifiable in fact.

[@shaiaheyes2c41]

@Jgfbg4743 Yes, that's where he lost me too. Truly vile.

[@Clippidyclappidy]

@@bluesrock88There is no such thing as a justified genocide.

[@williamthalman2708]

Never heard about this before. Thanks for covering. This and the Hooton plan certainly got buried from common knowledge. It's good to be reminded of why it's a bad idea to assign guilt based on groups

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Unless it is a group people choose to join knowing what it represents.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

@@michaelpettersson4919 you could literally say this about yourself now, you think our apathy towards neo liberal globalized chattel slavery is gonna look good in 3000? when we were complaining about neo nazis when the world was literally #@$king melting because of the life we were sucking out of it for (not even) our own benefit?, yeah... I'm sure your SOooooo concerned about human well-being.ヾ(*´∀｀*)ﾉ

[@vergil8833]

I wonder what else is covered up.

[@crf80fdarkdays]

@@michaelpettersson4919 so your basicly trying to say every German soldier joined knowing what Hitler's plans were? You are out of your mind

[@michaelpettersson4919]

@@crf80fdarkdays Few knew and as such cannot be blamed just for joining especially not with conscription in mind. The SS however didn't start to conscript people until near the end of the war and before that it also functioned essentially as Germany's foreign legion with many people who wasn't into it for the national socialist politics but for a chance to fight the communists. Finally when it come to actual acts of genocide, something even the army participated in occasionally, those doing the actual killings could opt out on participation. So those that took part in those actions did do despite an option not to.

[@konigeurichderwestgoten4460]

Something to remember is that a great many who died in the Holocaust were Germans themselves. Germans of Jewish ancestry, but Germans. They were our countrymen, many of whom had families who had been living in Deutschland for centuries were happy to call it home. Racial purity? You can read the whole map of Deutschland in my features, but I also have France and Ireland in my veins. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Jawhol, this one unter-sturmfuhrer! Lol. J/k, I'd have fought the SNazis tooth and nail.

[@konigeurichderwestgoten4460]

@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Hmm... If you were Germany at the time The National Socialist Party was going to round people up, you'd have to get past a thousand paranoid brownshirts and the Gestapo first. Guns were not banned to civilians, but gun laws were so tight and security was so paranoid, it almost wasn't worth buying or even owning one.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

@@konigeurichderwestgoten4460 many partisans had success in areas NEAR Germany. To say nothing of those who actively fought from within. Options existed, just ask the multitude of fighters who used the SNazi's own weapons against them. Plus, anything can BE a weapon if you're careful. J/S, folks COULD have fought.

[@konigeurichderwestgoten4460]

@@stillcantbesilencedevennowCould have. Should have. But would have? Most people don't want to take the big risks.

[@Zakrovik]

“Our countrymen”? Germans like you don’t deserve to exist. Germans need to absolve the sins they have committed.

[@gozerthegozarian9500]

The phrase "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is not and has never been a call to entice or incite revenge, it is and has always been a call to keep any vengeance in check, to practice moderation and rationality when meting out justice, to maintain boundaries. It calls for restorative justice, not rampages of revenge.

[@jbdbean242]

People will hear what they want to hear.

[@LRM12o8]

Too bad it's highly ambiguous, just like most ancient "words of wisdom": They're all just empty phrases today, either because they've been shortened to the point they can't clearly convey their original intention anymore, or because they could never convey it to someone who didn't know their historical context in the first place.

[@n.l.3776]

Hi there, german here. I think we are a pretty normal people and this plan is absolutely cruel. If nothing else they would have set themselves down to the same level as the nazis. The fact that you called this even remotely justified is disgusting.

[@erensio]

Well it is disgusting, true but nomral ppl don't put womans and childrens in gas chambers.

[@davidstenner3136]

To the same level as the nazis? You are the nazis!

[@alecbowman7738]

@@duckLife24_7Don’t become what you hate.

[@lukeneill1568]

@@duckLife24_7and what is Israel (fake country) doing today? And what was that little thing a certain group of people were involved with establishing it, lots of money exchanged hands, men were sent to die fighting in Europe not knowing they let were being used by puppets to establish a place called Israel lol

[@james3098]

​@@erensioas someone who studied genocide at a university level I can confirm the terrifying thing is there is always a gradual, cumulative radicalisation. One of the most chilling factors is that given the right circumstances, many "normal" people might. Of course that doesn't at all justify the horrible deeds that were done in the Holocaust or other genocides but we should always be aware that while we'd like to imagine ourselves as plucky resistance fighters, many would instead be more akin to informants or collaborators.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Amazing how many deliberately twist the meaning of 'an eye for an eye' to excuse their own atrocities.

[@artorhen]

The ideology itself is destructive, it doesn't even have to be taken out of context

[@peterwilliams5668]

If we lost 6 million of our people from babies to elderly and how they did through gas chambers, poisoning babies by dropping poison into their mouths which did happen in Eastern Europe mass executions by shooting and burnings making furniture out of people's skin and using dead Jewish women's hair for things when you really read about how bad it was not just in concentration camps but what the Einsatsgruppen death squads did... Anyone would want revenge. I would have thought like you if I didn't know just how bad it really was but reading deep into what the Nazis and how they carried out what they did in camps and in Eastern Europe they are much much worse than the average person think.

[@jeremy5602]

They happily forget the second half of the modern version of that phrase: "and the world goes blind"

[@derekhalcon8287]

@@jeremy5602 that wasnt part of the original saying, eye for eye was about meditated punishment that would only affect the criminal, the eye for and eye and the world goes blind saying is stupid because you are supposed to only made a proper punishment

[@jeremy5602]

@@derekhalcon8287 If you look closely, I said "the second half *_of the modern version of that phrase"_*

[@alpenjon]

"If there was a revenge plot that at least remotely sounded justified, it would be this" - just no. "Revenge" where you target people who had little to nothing to do with the holocaust (your average German) is not even revenge. It is vengefulness. There are a million revenge plots that actually target people who are responsible for something horrific - and there would be more of a justification.

[@alpenjon]

@@arturobuco So you are saying a "regular Hans" who was affraid of the Nazi party and did not speak up and intervene with violence to save (or try to save) the victims is as guilty as Hitler or any of the antisemitic propagandists? Sure if it makes things easier you can do that, but given the gravity of the situation I would put a little more thought and differentiation into your analysis.

[@alpenjon]

@@arturobuco Cleaning history is claiming regular Germans had no responsibility, which I don't. I am not even German and have no sympathy at all for Nazi ideology. So don't throw around such accusations so casually just because somebody disagrees with you. To reiterate: calling every German citizen as guilty as Hitler is what I think is false. It is such simplified thinking that makes people hate entire populations and formulate revenge plots as displayed in this video. Now generalizing groups and planning coordinated violent murders on them... sound familiar? It is both ironic and sad that people often can't learn from history.

[@alaric_]

@@arturobuco Blaming whole single race for small minorities atrocity is what starts and keeps these mass murders going. The next step is "every german was guilty, dirty and deserving of punishment" etc. Collective punishing or blaming is the dumbest thing a human can say or do. Also, you might want to read up on history and see how there were many germans who spoke against nazis actions.. and were executed for it. Succesfull uprising requires more people coming towards at the same time than the regime has time to kill. In Germany this was not possible. Or in Soviet Union. Or communist China. or.. or... According to your reasoning, every russian is guilty for every mass murder Stalin ordered and every chinese is guilty of every death Mao caused. As are every american guilty of almost causing genocide, mass killings and torture on indians. You start handing collective verdict of 'guilty' for entire races and nations, we are all guilty. As you said: "Don't clean history..." There is no white, you are going all black and the world is grey.

[@alpenjon]

@@alaric_ Thanks for your elaboration, I fully agree.

[@JsJdv]

@@arturobuco You sound like someone who should be locked up. An extremist for sure.

[@noahperry7022]

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

[@Henry-zh2ci]

True but I'd rather be blind facing my blind enemy than be blind facing an enemy that can see

[@soonmeekim930]

Unfortunately it seems like the whole world is already blind. As far as I know there’s no cure for blindness, also not all blind people want to see again. The world lacks empathy yes, but people are becoming so narcissistic. Yesterday I had a nurse argue with me over the face that the term smiling depression lightens the fact that you have depression. The fact you can put on a smile while dying inside. One positive word is a step in a better direction. Depression is still depression like she said, but if you start changing your outlook on disorders, it can help make things seem not as hopeless. This coming from a person who takes 12 different medications a day for chronic pain, arthritis, and many mental disorders.

[@tomlxyz]

​@@soonmeekim930 I'm sorry but your comment is all over the place and not making any point

[@tomlxyz]

​@@Henry-zh2ci that's not the point of the saying. It's that if everyone seeks revenge for everything, nothing worth it will remain. Like in this case, imagine the plan succeeded and millions of Germans got killed. Now the Germans would be angry because many of them weren't actually for killing jews but now a lot of them are and start killing jews in revenge. If it gets bad enough they would end up genociding each other out of existence

[@madelineschultz4968]

This quote can be attributed to Gandhi....

[@bam-skater]

Depending on how you want to look at it the 1994 Rwandan genocide is probably the most comparable to the holocaust. The holocaust had 6m Jews over 4 years(+6m others but nobody seems to remember them). It gives an annual toll of ~1.5m Jews, Rwandan genocide was ~800k in 100 days giving annual toll of 2.9m

[@mortygoldmacher]

The holocaust is unique. A modern nation turns its massive resources on identifying, segregating, imprisoning and murdering a religious minority widely dispersed among many other nations. The system of killing, the engineering of a killing machine on a massive scale is what makes the holocaust unique. In contrast, the Rwandan genocide was more like a civil war, a revolt of the Hutu majority against the more privileged Tutsi minority. The Rwandan genocide, if it is to be compared to a Jewish experience, was a giant pogrom, a spasm of violence involving countryman against countryman. Crunching numbers to arrive at a daily killing rate is a pointless exercise. Historical events need to be understood in their fullest sense, not reduced to a simple calculation.

[@rushyscoper1651]

it more of less about the number and more about the method, the holocaust sound like a slaughterhouse for x group of ppl whom are treated as animals. my country did face a civil war and ethnic killing but regadless of the number, holocaust is kinda unique on the method.

[@darthplagueis13]

Well... It's arguably still a difference. The Rwandan genocide was a genocide in the form of a pogrom, that is to say that it took place in the shape of a lynching riot that had the governments support. There were also pogroms in nazi germany, but the actual holocaust was a genocide in the form of a well-organized government and military operation. In terms of killing rates, the two may be comparable, but the actual course of the two is very different.

[@darthplagueis13]

@@mortygoldmacher It should be noted that by the time the rwandan genocide took place, the Tutsi were no longer a privileged group but actually discriminated against on a large and institutional scale.

[@seaniekay]

@@mortygoldmacher all genocides are obviously disgusting but we always tend look only at the event and never what led up to it or caused it. If we could only learn the lessons from those things maybe we could prevent them before they happen.

[@supercheapme]

PSA: remember this was a group of 50 emotionally broken people after a major genocide, this was not a remotely significant percentage of the survivers and does not justify antisemitic views.

[@amandamichelle4854]

👏 👏 👏

[@daviddaddy]

I think if any of us went through something so disturbing and Horrific! We would probably want some revenge as well. I know if my family was killed right in front of me, id definitely!!!! be trying to avenge their deaths.

[@drpavel_]

how do you know that?

[@drpavel_]

name checks out

[@starmada105]

@@daviddaddy not just their families, but likely everyone they knew simply because some people decided they weren’t “pure” enough.

[@Burnt.Ice.Cream.]

This is the Sad story of humanity, someone commits a horrible crime, the surviving victim will then project their desire for revenge on somebody else by association, it can be gender, race, religion, nationality, ethnicity, political views, anyone who has something in common with the perpetrator will have to pay for a crime they did not commit in the first place. And just like that, the cycle of ressentment, hatred and violence continues. It keeps happening to this day, and it seems we just don't want to learn.

[@demonslayereren3970]

khorne

[@regularrory4692]

Ghengis khan out did the nazis. I always have to remind “historians” of that. The mongols made the nazis look like JV.

[@gamerdrache6076]

and tehre wasen´t not as much population so it was worse

[@CraigFThompson]

SHHEEIIT! Look at AMERICAN HISTORY, and examine hundreds of reports of mass exterminations of various indegenous tribes and peoples----a great many which have been completely removed from the planet, NEVER to be experienced by those living in this moment in time.... And the perpetrators of those evils were NEVER punished!

[@kirstyduncan408]

Stalin outdid the nazis. Churchill outdid the nazis. Etc etc

[@fabiospasiano9885]

You cannot convict a whole demographic for the crimes of those in power. Not all Germans were Nazis, not all Wehrmacht soldiers were war criminals. It’s just to convict the SS psycho, it’s not just to blame the simple Heir troop for fighting for his country and, and it’s an atrocity to attack the German civilian.

[@HighDins]

Just taking orders isn't moral high ground or justification for doing genocide. Think of it this way you and 6 friends have a campout over a cliff, y'all get into a spat with another camp group and 3 of your friends push their car off a cliff. Do you think the person who's car is destroyed off the cliff will go it was only those three guys or blame your whole group. If you're around for the crime and don't stop it or look the other way you're also complicit

[@NewMexico1912]

Oh yeah… because Hitler didn’t rise to power with the aid of the German people. It was just a few random people that nearly wiped out eastern Europes Jews…. It’s not like antisemitism was rampant in Germany before Hitler

[@diego1590]

@@HighDins shut up nerd, but seriously though, do you really think you can hold accountable every german for nazism? Even kids and women? How? I mean what power did they held in that system? And you could even say the same for most of german men, who were not even nn the army.

[@Xvladin]

@@HighDins It would be unreasonable to expect me to be able to stop 3 people from pushing the car off the cliff.

[@HighDins]

@@Xvladinthe cop isn't gunna go okay pal you're right you had nothing to do with this with your friends and you couldn't reasonably stop them. You'd be an accessory with your friends to the crime regardless.

[@Crow22Darkness]

Thinking that people can seriously justify killing millions of innocent people as an act of revenge just because millions of your own people had previously perished is disgusting, It would only make you as bad those those who had persecuted you. Genocide can never be justifiable no matter what reason it is done for.

[@BenjaminLe-wb2tp]

I can imagine thinking that would solve everything in the heat of the moment. Also, people are forgetting that it wasn’t like a bunch of Jews just got up and said: “let’s kill the Germans!”. Nazis had a hitler, so did the Jews most likely.

[@vincentngo3409]

“Just because” dude. Thats a pretty good reason for why you would want to become the villain. “Just because you lost all your families?” When something needlessly cruel is done to you, who do you blame? When you lose everything, what do you do next? Of course genocide is wrong, but it isnt hard to see why they thought of it as a fitting revenge. If i had to be dehumanized in a camp and watch my family die and countless of my kin as well, i do not know what i would want if i could escape.

[@jaydena6297]

Just because you can empathize with someone doesn't make what the do okay in the slightest.

[@patriciabrenner9216]

There were no innocent Germans. None. They were all criminals.

[@ceciland18]

Make them just as bad or resetting the bar to a new zero?

[@tinman3586]

This plot doesn't sound "remotely justified" at all. Besides, how many millions of Germans had already been melted into pools of organic material by Allied strategic bombing campaigns? How many Germans were beaten, raped, and killed by advancing Soviet forces? How many died of starvation and disease when they were forcibly relocated? This "revenge plot" is disgusting.

[@tinman3586]

@BIGESTblade I didn't ask such a question. The irony is that the more extreme you get, the more reasonable the Nazis look.

[@BIGESTblade]

@@tinman3586 I suppose you are right on that point. After all the thing they were wrong about is the targets of their persecution.

[@MadScientist267]

​@@tinman3586Made perfect sense to me. So what you're saying is, you not only don't comprehend what took place, but also your own wording... 🤣 I just can't with you -people-

[@stoned_kakapo8736]

Ah a nazi sympathizer I see

[@hishamalaker491]

The Germans had one of the largest mass r*pes commited at them by the soviets.

[@fromulus]

I'm incredibly glad this failed, it wouldn't have been justified and would've caused far worse problems down the line for everyone. Revenge is a fool's game.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Churchill was, at least for a time, entertaining the idea of forcing Germany to become an agrarian society. Doing that to a people of high education fostering engineers would have bern soulcrushing to them.

[@vampiricagorist6979]

@@michaelpettersson4919 They actually began this process and continued deindustrializing Germany until the early 50s. The Soviets straight up took most of the industry in the east back to the soviet union.

[@samuelademeso9041]

You wouldn't be saying that if one of your family was a victim fromulus or you lived through the hell they did. Either way it would have made things worst

[@fromulus]

@@samuelademeso9041 you don't speak for all affected by the holocaust, and not all affected by the holocaust agree with it.

[@walterwallman3566]

@@samuelademeso9041 would you say that if your family were the perpetrators?

[@chrisschultz8598]

I can truly say I had never heard of this incident until today. What a fascinating (and somewhat horrifying) story. Thank you "Into the Shadows" for casting some light on this largely forgotten corner of history.

[@bradyferguson1009]

“An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind” -A man with two working eyes

[@Crossword131]

Not true. It leaves one guy with one eye.

[@jasonmacek5357]

That's why he wore glasses😤

[@YuriFromVishwaguru]

Maha Duratma Gandhi

[@cunninguncle208akaanutlapu7]

@@Crossword131 do you know the meaning of metaphor?

[@cunninguncle208akaanutlapu7]

@@YuriFromVishwaguru where did duramata come from? Mahahtma is a title, it means great soul. When you say mahatma gandhi you say great soul gandhi. His real name was Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

[@Maven0666]

My aunt Joann’s mom escaped the Holocaust. She was a tough lady. Her name was Rose Clark. They were Romanians living in Hungary. She never talked about it. I know it had to be a burden on her heart.

[@chrissmith3587]

@@NwoSaturn parents sent their children to other countries to save them from the nazis, People ran from the nazis, until the nazis invaded and went to war to with the countries they ran to

[@nicholasb6462]

Your aunt mom huh? Not your grandmother tho... The lie detector has determined that was a lie!

[@ghostmanscores1666]

could be an aunt by marriage.

[@Mayan_88694]

@@NwoSaturn looks like we found the neo nazi 🤡🤡

[@angelcabeza6464]

@@nicholasb6462 are you the guy that keeps saying the heer were innocents when they actively worked with the SS to kill innocents?

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

I'm convinced this mentality for revenge never ended. Why do we assume they wouldn't want revenge?

[@ildlyn8966]

almost as if we are living during their current revenge.

[@heybabycometobutthead]

Maybe the Holocaust was revenge for the Jewish Bolsheviks murdering over 10 million Christians?

[@Wilhelm322]

Yes i assume they would want revenge but i never assumed they would be willing to Murder Innocents.

[@ghostnebula8805]

@@ildlyn8966😒

[@generalj216]

*Breaks out the protocols of the elders of Zion*

[@DoggyBingBong]

Cite their own holy book while you’re at it

[@valmid5069]

“I've been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again” -Erik Lehnsherr *Real Life Inspiration for Marvel X-Men’s Magneto and his followers?*

[@Gamerguy826]

Magneto was imprisoned at Auschwitz when he was a child and his family was Jewish. It was in the comics and it was in X-Men: Origins. So... yeah. Definitely. The irony is that he became like the people who tormented him all those years ago.

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

I'd argue that the Khmer Rouge was worse in the scope of it's brutality, but it was far more chaotic than the Shoah was calculated.

[@CliffCardi]

And most Americans are clueless about Nanking or the Armenian genocide.

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

@@CliffCardi I think at this point that awareness of the Armenian genocide has increased, and while what happened in Nanking was horrible, I don't think it was prolonged enough to be an apt comparison.

[@CliffCardi]

@@ThugShakers4Christ well my point is just look how much the Holocaust has overshadowed every other genocide in American media. Also, would you believe that it was Vietnam that ended the Killing Fields?

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

@@CliffCardi I'm very aware of how they ended. I don't know much about Vietnam's political orthodoxy, but Pol Pot seemed like a nightmare version of Maoism.

[@CliffCardi]

@@ThugShakers4Christ Pol Pot was Robespierre on steroids.

[@krspykreame1]

Nobody wants to talk about the modern day genocide of the Palestinians tho 🤔

[@dumigamez397]

Because it isn't a genocide.

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

Jewish Palestinians or Arab Palestinians?

[@McNugge.]

As someone who lives in Germany, I'm so done and mf tired of the whole "every german is a naschi" spiel.... No, no we're not. Scrutinise the people who done the deed, not the ANCESTORS WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS

[@Wuznoturbiznis]

The spiel is for those nearly 100 yrs ago. The Germans- even if not fervent nazi supporters - were nazi citizens and supported the nazi state. The average German today is not a Nazi, but even 60 years ago “Germans are nazis” is an accurate statement lmao Germans are the only nazis, everyone else in the modern era is called a neo-Nazi lmao

[@Brifrakenki]

You guys were just desperate for something that can give you economic stability at a time where Germany was quite literally one of the poorest nations in the world, and such times breeds desperations, and desperations breeds extremisms.

[@tritium1998]

​@@BrifrakenkiPlenty of countries lost wars or starved worse without saluting the same ideological campaigns.

[@animatedmonkey5882]

@@tritium1998well maybe but a lot also have done the same. Plenty of countries have allowed, in times of great suffering and strife, for crazy ideologies and dictators to take over. But only a handful were as efficiently murderous and destructive as nazi germany

[@jiukumite]

Thank you guys! I'll always tune in! Beautiful, passionate work you all do!

[@mantasna7025]

Even as somebody from Lithuania, like most I've never heard this story. It's odd how this didn't become something more widespread in history.

[@HelloHelloe]

Because Jewish people are protected from criticism

[@mantasna7025]

@@HelloHelloe ?

[@HelloHelloe]

@@mantasna7025 Kanye said it so it must be true

[@PanzerFaust1754]

@@mantasna7025 kodėl tavo manimu žydai buvo nekenčiami iki tokio lygio?

[@mantasna7025]

@@PanzerFaust1754 Neisivaizduoju, tai pagrinde pradejo htleris, kurio net motina pusiau zyde.

[@FSAPOJake]

When the fire department goes to put out a fire, just remember that they generally use water.

[@stephenmeier4658]

Leaving the comment section open here is perhaps the bravest thing you've ever done on TouYube

[@cristiancamilovaldiviesopo6717]

So... It was an international jewish conspiracy...

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

🤷🏼‍♂️ Sounds good to me

[@ModernDayHeretic-m9j]

A Jewish American also wrote a book called 'Germany Must Perish' advocating for the full sale starvation, sterilisation a deviding up of defeated German lands to neighboring countries. This would go on to be known as the 'Morganthau plan' The book was published a year or so before the 'final solution' said to have taken place.

[@bertjesklotepino]

prior to that a Jewish writer wrote a book called You Gentiles. In 1924 it was published. And in 1938 another Jewish writer wrote Jewish utopia. If YOU dare say Hitler was not planning to do anything like what happened, you are an Anti Semite. But if Netanyahu says it, which he infact did and is on video. He said it wasn't Hitler's idea, it was the idea of the Grand Mufti of Palestine, to kill all the Jews. OBVIOUSLY!!!!! But, do not dare question it, because you are bigot, a racist, bla bla bla

[@bertjesklotepino]

another funny part is this : “Hitler will have no war, but he will be forced into it, not this year but later.” Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934, also quoted in his book ‘The New Holy Alliance’ Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. One may be sure of this: We will lead that war! - Bernard Lecache, the president of the ‘International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism,’ in its newspaper ‘Droit de Vivre’ (Right to Life), 9 November, 1938. “The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end.” - The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israelieten in Nederland, September 13, 1939. Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every German - wipe them out! Llya Ehrenburg, Glaser, p. 111. One of the great mysteries of life is that despite the evidence to the contrary millions of otherwise intelligent people still believe that Germany was the all powerful aggressor during the 2nd World War. Nothing better than these myths illustrate the mind-bending power of propaganda. The provable facts suggest that Germany was the victim and not the perpetrator of naked neighboring aggression. The subsequent allied military triumph was followed by the triumph of the propagandists whose pressing need was to depict the victor nations as being the victim. THE BRITISH EMPIRE "Germany is too strong. We must destroy her." - Winston Churchill, Nov. 1936. "In no country has the historical blackout been more intense and effective than in Great Britain. Here it has been ingeniously christened The Iron Curtain of Discreet Silence. Virtually nothing has been written to reveal the truth about British responsibility for the Second World War and its disastrous results." - Harry Elmer Barnes. American Historian "The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets." - Winston Churchill. March, 1946. "Britain was taking advantage of the situation to go to war against Germany because the Reich had become too strong and had upset the European balance." - Ralph F. Keeling, Institute of American Economics "I emphasized that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit." - Samuel Untermeyer, The Public Years, p.347. On September 2nd 1939 a delegate of the Labour Party met with the British Foreign Minister Halifax in the lobby of Parliament. 'Do you still have hope?'he asked. 'If you mean hope for war,' answered Halifax, 'then your hope will be fulfilled tomorrow. 'God be thanked!' replied the representative of the British Labour Party. - Professor Michael Freund. "In Britain, Lord Halifax was reported as being 'redeemed'. He ordered beer. We laughed and joked." - H. Roth. Are We Being Lied To? "In April, 1939, (four months before the outbreak of war) Ambassador William C. Bullitt, whom I had known for twenty years, called me to the American Embassy in Paris. The American Ambassador told me that war had been decided upon. He did not say, nor did I ask, by whom. He let me infer it. ... When I said that in the end Germany would be driven into the arms of Soviet Russia and Bolshevism, the Ambassador replied: "'what of it? There will not be enough Germans left when the war is over to be worth bolshevising." - - Karl von Wiegand, April, 23rd, 1944, Chicago Herald American

[@stevenburkhardt1963]

I have never5 heard of this before. Thank you for broadening my knowledge

[@greendragon4058]

Thank you for this little history lesson. A lot of people don't believe that anything happened to the German people after the war was over. They say that life went on after the war but how could it, logically it couldn't

[@unbabunga229]

'denazification' by the Americans was a pretty horrific crime when you read what it actually meant, how Germans were treated, and how many died...

[@greendragon4058]

@@unbabunga229 yes it is sad just 31 sign of the battle oh, I like to hear both sides is quite interesting

[@aidanbehrens6518]

@@unbabunga229 lol most officers got off and many were brought to the US through operation paperclip.

[@zarosianprophet-et2mg]

😂 didn't the U.S hire hide and employee most of the Nazi's top people (officer's scientist and engineers)?

[@thomass1473]

@@unbabunga229cry me a River . Your sympathy is wrongly placed

[@america8706]

Blood feuds are no joke, I'm glad the plots failed. But I can understand the insatiable hunger for revenge one would feel after watching their entire worlds slaughtered in front of them.

[@PhilipFry.]

I can understand these people as well, having visited two concentration camps myself. But when i think of my own grandparents (I'm German), they were children during the war, and suffered in their own way (My grandma still runs into her basement everytime she hears a fire alarm going off in the city). They don't deserve to be poisoned, growing up during Bombing raids and spending your teenage years in a bombed out country because of a war you didn't start or participate in is already enough punishment

[@voidkat4202]

​@@PhilipFry.People sometimes forget the General populace. On what is really going on inside. And that makes me sad.

[@shasmi93]

Yes just look at the black ghettos here in America… except they made a whole music and art culture around their blood feuds… kinda weird it’s celebrated.

[@hermocrasbreadlord9557]

There were many acts of revenge and vigilante justice on Germany. The Russians suffered greatly under the Germans and shot POWs and German civilians, going as far to deport the Volga Germans who had nothing to do with the Nazis. American soldiers after liberating camps in the West shot guard and handed their guns to the inmates and let them go wild on their captors. Conditions in POW camps in the USA and Britain became more harsh after the allies discovered the concentration camps. Axis POWs we're beaten, abused, and neglected. Even after the war hundreds of German civilians were massacred and imprisoned in camps where their captors would torture and abuse them. In the east thousands of Germans including Hitler youths were imprisoned and many did not survive their captivity.

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

It's awful but... Fuck humans we're all pieces of shit in not for it nor against it

[@richardhobbs7360]

@свевский except millions didn't die, in the west at least, we will never know how many millions did or did not die in east Berlin

[@familyandfriends3519]

Good riddance

[@hermocrasbreadlord9557]

@свевский the Germans had it easy compared to their occupied territories

[@Wilhelm322]

@@hermocrasbreadlord9557 No they had it worse than everyone else in Europe except the Soviets.

[@scifino1]

Simon: "The prisoners were fed low-quality black bread on Sundays, while the American soldiers would eat high quality white bread." Me, a German: "Simon, you unknowing small brain! Black bread is way better than white bread, which in comparison tastes like carton paper."

[@ilarious5729]

Oh my, never seen such inaccuracy on Simon's video before, unacceptable!

[@fuck_Russian_bots]

You, an idiot, had to throw an insult at him because he's a narrator who is repeating what information he found. Maybe, just maybe the Americans at the time thought it was better!? Dofa cou oft?

[@scifino1]

@@fuck_Russian_bots Calling Simon a "small brain" over inaccuracies is kind of a meme, that he himself fosters up in Business Bl... uhh... Brain Blaze videos. If you don't know that channel of his, you should check it out, because it is quite hilarious and a bit informative.

[@jasperpendlebury4551]

@@fuck_Russian_bots Mate, Ever heard of a joke?

[@dragonlover7196]

me, an american who's never had black bread: retreats under the table 😳💦

[@danielaguirre9583]

The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury. -Marcus Aurelius

[@HateTheBearsFTWbcYOLO]

"at least sounded remotely justified" not even a little bro wtf?

[@luyandzabavukiledlamini4693]

Thanks for the video Simon!In the end we should learn that "Hurt people can only hurt more people "

[@themachineeatsitself]

Beautiful channel. This is exactly what I was hoping to find that I only got hints of in the Biographics/Geographics channels. Those dark avenues of history no one talks about... with the horrific details. Probably sounds more edgy then I had meant to, but I love 'unsantized' history. Take it all in, the violence, the horror, the sadness, for all of it is real history.

[@dejapoo5508]

Well put .

[@Kingrich_777]

I respect that

[@elizabethannedavis5176]

I so strongly agree. I have a 17 year old son who is fascinated with history, and I teach him ALL history. Even the bloodiest and most horrifying. Learn your history, or you are bound to repeat it. So you MUST face what humanity can do it left unchecked.

[@travispardy8649]

I think this is Simon's best channel, and that's saying something. It constantly surprises me with information I had know idea about. Into the shadows indeed,

[@nickmarsala3787]

The hatred of man and man's inability to live together in peace is so sad.

[@lesliechristie3592]

Thank you so much for this enlightening video which informs me of of a movement and a group in history I previously had no knowledge of! Keep the great content coming! Looking forward to seeing more of your work across all of your different channels :)

[@flyntstoned9417]

"... has happened before, or since" Uighur people in china would have a different opinion about this statement im sure.

[@___E]

And Armenias.

[@joesmith701]

No just no, when you try to downplay the USSR and Communist China killings just because they were not "industrialized" is just stupid. I understand the difference in how the mass killing at least seems more gruesome due to the industrialized way it occurred but the Communist killings were just as brutal but what stays out of sight is easily forgotten. It's not likely you find footage of the victims of Mao or the USSR unlike the Nazi's.

[@KyleKaspszyk]

And now they are doing it to Palestinians

[@Dr.Fluffles]

Looks like my main comment got flagged somehow, as it seems gone for no reason, but here's some of the thoughts from it: Regarding what I'm seeing in the comments, I feel like more people need to learn it's okay to sympathize with the pain that people have felt, while recognizing that sympathy doesn't mean condonation, or even mercy when the time comes. A comparison can be made to someone who contracts AIDS because someone forced it upon them, and then, they, in turn, forcing it upon others around the original monster as an act of revenge. They didn't deserve the cruelty they were dealt, but they aren't right to continue the spread, no matter how much pain they have felt. When confronted by a person who's lost so much, it's okay to give sympathy, but not absolution.

[@doreenwhitehead4224]

Lķ

[@Kerosene.Dreams]

Who are we to give absolution? Or decide who gets it?

[@Dr.Fluffles]

@@Kerosene.Dreams We're the people who have to share this world with everyone else, and the collective consequences of all choices and actions in it. The decisions on who to absolve and who to punish are about choosing what battles are worth fighting, with our limited times and resources, for any individual or collective set of principles, and will carry their own consequences.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Mine as well, YT has some serious bad guy vibes anymore

[@_Devil]

If you want to royally piss off your enemy then the best course of action would be to act in the exact opposite way they expect you to act. If you give in the to the enemy, it shows weakness. The best revenge is to not be like your enemy.

[@jessickalush3305]

You can live your best life, and still poison your enemies.

[@leonardonetagamer]

​@@jessickalush3305a life in which you kill someone is not your best life no matter the reason.

[@ccsworldaustralia4332]

Revenge is never fair, to kill innocents in revenge for the death of innocents, is NEVER FAIR NOR MORAL.

[@1eyeddevil929]

China should know this. They are becoming more and more like the IJA each day

[@chairpersonofthecharlotteh5646]

"Liberation by the red army" good one

[@Th0mat0]

Holodomor moment

[@Mayan_88694]

@@Th0mat0 are you a Holocaust denier pal?

[@John-qy8qd]

Liberated ur food brah Good luck

[@dsadunnodudeish4535]

They were angels compared to the germans

[@peterludwig4599]

@@dsadunnodudeish4535Debatable. They rounded up children from 3 onwards in rape camps for their soldiers. It doesn’t compare to the crime that is the holocaust, but they weren’t angels.

[@capnhands]

“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you” ― Friedrich Nietzsche

[@andersjjensen]

Sometimes you can only go "That is wrong at every level... but understandable none the less".

[@user-ji4gf5xr9y]

No it's not understandable and should not be. If this were understandable thd nazis actions were also understandable

[@andersjjensen]

@@user-ji4gf5xr9y No. The Nazis needed someone to place blame on for the economic recession of the 30s. The Jews were generally well off, so they became it. Calm, collected and methodical genocide orchestrated by greed, populistic manipulation and political agenda is several orders of magnitude worse than genocide carried out in a fit of blind rage due to unspeakable victimization. The first illustrates the absolute worst traits humans can possibly have. The second illustrates that when people lose everything... they lose it. Even in the eye of the law there is a clear distinction in almost every country. If a father catches a child molester in the act and kills him on the spot he will get a very reduced sentence (or none at all) compared to someone who commits premeditated murder motivated by financial gain. The law thinks the first is "wrong, but understandable".

[@fructosecornsyrup5759]

@@andersjjensen I feel like individual cases like that where you catch the person in the act and commit a murder in defense of another is a far cry from large-scale killings, being that it isn't being carried out on an individual basis or because you're protecting someone else. By the time WWII was over, it was done. It had already happened. The victims were freed, the Nuremburg trials occurred, Justice was carried out. What happened was atrocious. Anger is definitely understandable. Anyone would be angry in that circumstance, of course. But just like the mass rapes that occurred in Berlin and surrounding areas by the Red Army, revenge is not justifiable, nor should it be considered understandable if the act itself is inherently unjustifiable. This is why it's considered dishonorable to kill an unarmed soldier in combat. If he is armed, he is still dangerous. If he still has the intent to kill or hurt others, it is best to kill him before he does more harm. If he is kneeling in defeat, and his gun has been confiscated, then no, killing is unnecessary and can therefore be considered a war crime. Instead, you are obliged to take them as a prisoner of war. We as humans have moral codes for a reason. We ought to follow them, and discourage any deviation.

[@HotEatTheFood]

No it isn't. It would make them just as bad as the Nazis.

[@jarekkish5515]

@@user-ji4gf5xr9y In a way, they were.

[@officialkingofswag67r.g53]

How the fuck would this be remotely justified ?

[@grouchy4105]

ZOG world

[@jeremymcclary3901]

I am so glad you made this video. It shows in this day ang age that just because one side of historical act was incredibly wrong, the response shouldn't be to be just as incredibly wrong in return.

[@Zakrovik]

No. It was right. The Jews had a good idea. Germans are uniquely evil.

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

As Mahatma Ghandhi said: "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

[@osheridan]

​@@JohnSmith-ct5jd One of the few times I agree with Gandhi the pedo

[@RandomCommenter-qu2oc]

Bro it’s not like this was a massive plan made by every holocaust survivor, literally just 50 sick people. Take everything you see on KZbin with a grain of salt

[@amazinggrapes3045]

and the message fell on the deaf ears of half the people it reached

[@UndyingZombie]

This makes me think of a group who wanted revenge for the dropping of the atomic bombs.. Though that group was stopped by other Japanese people. There is a portion of my family tree that died out due to one of those two bombs. But like most others from my country. We fully realize that if those bombs where never dropped.. The war would have went on longer and would have become far more bloody than it already was. Japan would not have given up at all if it was not for those bombs, even then part of it still did not give up.. But eventually even those people did. With the exception of the small group I am referring to here... And this would have happened during the cold war era if they where not stopped.. Its not too well known outside of Japan, and even then its only really known to those from specific areas of Japan or at least, those related to people who where from those areas.. Horrible acts where committed by all nations that where part of that war just like the previous one that also involved the world.. Its better that we learn from these mistakes and try to find ways of working with each other better, understanding each other better, and getting along with each other better.. I know some of this is just impossible simply due to the fact that humans can not completely remove their own nature.. But its something that should not mean we should stop trying... Sadly not enough of history is remembered, and things very well might end up repeating again.

[@lupohutchington269]

The Nakam plan wasn't scratched off. It was only redirected at Palestinians

[@lupohutchington269]

And began forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint. And when people protested against those injustices Israel called them antisemitic even when orthodox ,Ethiopian and Sephardic jews were against those injustices and were part of those protests

[@Phoenixfede1989]

But we have to question why direct civilian cities where chosen as targets to demonstrat the bombs destructiv power to the japanese gouverment. Why not first an unhabitat island or if they want to target human, then a military base.

[@JakeBaldwin1]

@@Phoenixfede1989 The US at that time could only produce two bombs each year, so they had to go with the most valuable targets first. Transportation hubs and factories, which allowed Japan to continue the fighting. Unfortunately this meant targeting areas with lots of civilians that were there because those things needed lots of workers. The idea was if Japan still didn't surrender then the bombs would be hitting key targets anyway.

[@pallasathena1369]

Psychopaths exist in every nation of the world, it is up to us not to allow them into positions of power. How? We just don't know. My heart has always felt for Japan - those two bombs were a wake up call for the entire world to see why revenge is as dark as the deeds that inspire it. Old people, women, children all seen in abomination of desecration. Innocents paid for psychopathic megalomania. The psychopaths are still with us unfortunately, even after seeing what nuclear bombs did to Japan - they are carelessly and callously talking about nuclear warfare again.. We have to stop them all.

[@blackphillip564]

So they took out their frustrations on the Palestinians and stole their land. Delightful.

[@dumigamez397]

No.

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

The Jews were there for 3,500 years. If the Arabs don't want to share, that's not the Jews' fault.

[@getbackinthekitchen878]

I guess that's where the phrase "They cry out in pain as they strike you" originated.

[@powderedtoastfacekillah734]

How does that phrase apply to this? This is just a case of victims wanting revenge and that’s not unique to Jewish people

[@ceoofgrind8101]

Killing a bunch of innocent people on notions of revenge sounds exactly like what the nazis did. So in the end, these people wound up exactly the same as their oppressors.

[@jarekkish5515]

It's almost like the whole thing is nothing more than a conflict between two tribes that mutually hate each other, as is usually the case.

[@familyandfriends3519]

Go back to Germany

[@ChernobylPone]

Kinda what they are doing towards Palestinians.

[@LinaFootpad]

The word "innocent" is dirtied from your lips. All Germans might not have worked in the camps, but through their inaction they all allowed their friends and neighbors to be stolen from their homes and put on trains like cattle.

[@lawrenceiverson1924]

@@ChernobylPone Not Quite !!!

[@sidneysun5217]

"an eye for an eye, the whole world goes blind", i like this quote alot

[@cock_baitman6701]

You r a good man love from india

[@yazovgaming]

Quote from Mahatma Gandhi

[@Artyomthewalrus]

@@yazovgaming No, this was probably never said by Gandhi. There is no evidence or reason to believe he ever said it. It's possible, but unlikely. It's an extremely common mis-quote. It was used by a biographer as his was to describe Gandhi's philosiphy. It was in a book written about Gandhi, but it was the authors words, not Gandhi's.