Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan's final problem?

[@yourneighbourhooddoomer]

0:12 "Russia was unable to keep the peace in the region." In my opinion, Russia was rather *unwilling* to keep the peace in the region. They certainly had the military resources to intervene and force a permanent settlement and they were also no strangers to military adventures/interventions in post-soviet states at that point, e. g. Moldova/Transnistria or Georgia/Abkhazia/Ossetia. That precarious situation between Armenia and Azerbaijan benefitted Russia the most, as they could pretend to be the protector of Armenia to keep them in CIS/CSTO/other russia-centric organizations while propping up Azerbaijan through military sales and economic cooperation for hard currency, keep them from drifting too far outside Russia's orbit and maintain them as a somewhat credible threat to Armenia that they wouldn't be able to take on themselves because of all the high-end russian hardware that Azerbaijan got compared to Armenia. It was a nice arrangement for Russia while it lasted.

[@cuteball3683]

Hi, Azerbaijan got its high-end hardware from Israel and Turkey. The things Russia sells to Azerbaijan are of poor and old quality, and they are little to no different from what Armenia receives in these supplies too. Other than that great analysis

[@AppoJabarian]

Your approach is superficial. You should dig deeper into the annals of history. I’d like to urge you to go back to 1900 for example and start from there. Did you know that what is now called ‘Azerbaijan’ didn’t even exist in 1800’s or earlier?

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@AppoJabarian Azerbaijan existed in 1800s. Even armenia was in Iravan khanate's rule. Western Azerbaijani people should come back to their ancestral land if you want to come back to Karabakh. Secondly, by your logic. Turkiye was existed in 1923, it means Turks' don't have history? Average armenian brain be like:🤡

[@lordofvurgun187]

Yes, we just spawned out of nowhere

[@AppoJabarian]

@@lordofvurgun187 vurgun efendi you are either a local indigenous minority member such Talish, Shirvan, Budukh, Dagehstani, Tsakiu, Persian or Armenian masquerading as ‘azerbaijani’ or you are a descendant of Seljuk/Tatar/Khazar invaders from the Steppes of Central Asia! Which one do you consider yourself to be!!!???!!!!! Or you just don’t know it?!!!!

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@AppoJabarian can u speak azerbaijani language?

[@AppoJabarian]

@@Khacmaz_edits there is no Azerbaijan language there is Turkish language and yes I speak Turkish

[@sarkismasrian2151]

Nakhichevan is Armenian land granted for free to Azerbaijan by the Soviet Union to keep the conflict for hundreds of years.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@sarkismasrian2151 nakhchivan was capital of atebegs empire. It is Historically Azerbaijani land. Don't share fake lie informations, armenian liar.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@sarkismasrian2151 fake information.

[@lordofvurgun187]

Mars is Armenian land granted to space by god, right?

[@sarkismasrian2151]

@@lordofvurgun187 No, only the entire Azerbaijan is Armenian. Check in google and self educate yourself.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@sarkismasrian2151 Soviet didn't give Nakhchivan to Azerbaijan. It was Azerbaijani land in 1918-1919 too. Armenians occupied it after Aras war. Don't share fake lie armenian informations!

[@musicbox99]

The number of Azeri Turks who moved from Armenia to Azerbaijan was significantly low. They were able to sell their homes in Armenia, collect their belongings and move peacefully by means provided by Armenians. Armenia even paid compensations to Azeri Turks who moved away. Instead of using the money they received to buy homes from Armenians in Baku they chose to murder them and take their homes and belongings by force.

[@ayxan3950]

Who are you talking about? I knew a person who lost his wife while crossing Araz river. Many such cases. Whatever you said may had happened in cases, but in general people had pretty terrible conditions. Also many armenians left Azerbaijan without any violence. Some of them were able to visit Baku until 2000s. Some of them changed their name and still live here

[@kabodra]

The same for Armenians living in Azerbaijan

[@musicbox99]

@@ayxan3950 All the Armenians I spoke with who left Azerbaijan told me that their departure was violent and they left homes and all their belongings aside from the clothes on their backs. Those are the people I am talking about.

[@eddytown]

@@musicbox99Azeri mirror propaganda, take all Armenian stories and make it yours.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

Same with armenians who went to armenia from Karabakh

[@joepulaski2960]

You lost me at "Russia was unable to keep the peace" - when Caucasus conflicts have been Russians' divide and conquer, while pushing Russia's Preferred Nations Policies in parallel when they lacked political power to exterminate all

[@joepulaski2960]

Wish I could befriend folks who like my feedback

[@eric6616]

Azerbiajan already has access to nakhichevan, it just wants to annex Armenian territory. NAkhichevan which is Armenian word for "Newly Arrived or newly Descended" referring to settlers in NOAH's flood, is father away from the so called province of 'azerbaijan' which clearly belong is Iran. They are Shia and speak a Persian form of Turkish.

[@ednaantonian8369]

Nakhijevan should be given back to Armenia. It was stolen from them.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

Heydar Aliyev is from Nakhchivan. It's our ancestral land. Even "Momina Khatun" monument proved that it's historically ours.

[@AppoJabarian]

@@ednaantonian8369 look, if your son is born in America it doesn’t mean that America belongs to Baku!!!! Just because Heydar Aliyev is born in Armenia it doesn’t mean that Armenia belongs to Baku-Azerbaijan artificially created state.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@AppoJabarian Heydar Aliyev borned in azerbaijan not armenia. Nakhchivan was Azerbaijani land for hundreds of years

[@vasa1321]

@@AppoJabarianeducate yourself with proper recourses.

[@AppoJabarian]

@@vasa1321 stop being either outright falsifiers if history or being blatant liars. Don’t you know the fact that Stalin forcibly carved out the territories of Nakhichevan and Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh) from the Republic of Armenia (1918-1920) and ‘gifted’ them to the then newly created so-called ‘Azerbaijan’ republic ? Don’t you know that the Baku-based artificial state is even named after Iran’s northern region of Azerbaijan? Ethnically what are you? Are you indigenous Azerbaijani/Iranian?

[@labt8194]

Ireland stands with Armenia. Christian brothers!✝

[@OsbornsConcise]

Well, if you say so… There goes your western fairness out of the window

[@StaLeninosus]

​@@OsbornsConciseSo you are telling me Azerbaijan is the fair one? Bruh...

[@OsbornsConcise]

@@StaLeninosus i dont know if it’s a fair one, but it hasn’t invaded any country

[@StaLeninosus]

@@OsbornsConcise Are you freaking serious

[@YALQUZAQ_AZ]

One person's opinion is useless

[@gillianspruce3120]

Very interesting! Well done.

[@lordlex6315]

Azerbaijani's are central-asian turks who invaded the region only a few hundred years ago, meanwhile Artsakh and Nakhichevan were Armenian for over 2 thousand years - and in the future they will be again🇦🇲✊️

[@VStrisue]

The political situation in the Caucasus has been changing rapidly in the last 4 years. Let's list the important events: + Azerbaijan left the Karabakh war as the winner. + Russia, which supported the Armenians at every opportunity, did not support Armenia as seriously as expected in the Karabakh war. + Armenians, who were used by the Russians to maintain control in the Caucasus for 200 years, began to implement a western-oriented policy. + The West is very positive towards the new policy of the Armenians. + The opening of the Zangezur corridor is expected to have a negative impact on Iran's power in the Caucasus. + Armenians fired at Nakhchivan 2-3 times in September and October. + America and India are rapidly arming Armenia. + Elections will be held in Georgia. As a result of the election, either Georgia will try to improve its relations with Russia, or it will get closer to the West. It seems that the situation will continue its tension.🫤

[@theporkiestpie8416]

The part about Armenia firing at Nakhchivan has little evidence to confirm it other than what the Azeri MOD and state media claim.

[@artinterhakopian9684]

Armenians fired at Nakhichevan? Pal, it's the other way around. Just google it and look at independent news sources. Indian workers trying to build a smelter on the Armenian side were injured by Azeri fire.

[@VStrisue]

​​​@@artinterhakopian9684 I have googled it. Only armenian websites tell this information (and they could not show any proof about it). Some independent news sites refer to these Armenian sites. İt seems to me that the information said by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan is more convincing than the information that the armenians have not been able to provide any evidence.

[@deadchannelxd0420]

its simple really. Azerbaijan would love to make a shit load of money off gas and oil sent to the west. Even if that means conquering Armenia.

[@YALQUZAQ_AZ]

Otherwise Armenia occupied 20% lands of Azerbaijan and kicked 1 million Azerbaijanis from their motherland

[@kaanyagzer8536]

You are looking at this from a very wrong perspective. You think that Nakhchivan is a problem for Azerbaijan, but actually it is not. Zangezur passage, Nakhchivan soils and the physical connection between Central Asia - Caspian - Anatolia are problems for both Armenia and Iran. Putin and Erdogan had a long phone conversation today. According to state sources, Erdogan called his friend to congratulate him on his "birthday". And this tele-celebration lasted for about 45 minutes. They didn't talk about anything else, they laughed and strengthened their friendship.... if I were living in Yerevan, I would definitely lose sleep after this celebration ceremony. :P

[@eric6616]

Azerbaijan wasn't on the map until 1920's and the present day Turkey and Azerbaijan have large swaths of Armenian land.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@eric6616 lie.

[@OsbornsConcise]

The current border configuration in the South Caucasus is quite unfortunate and conflict-inducing. These borders between Azerbaijan and Armenia had never been conclusively settled between them two in pre-soviet times. There was a brief Armenia-Azerbaijan war in 1918-1920 which was inconclusive and ended with the Soviet invasion of both. The current borders are the result of the WWI front and subsequent agreement between Russia and Turkey on the outer perimeter (which gave Nakhchivan a special status as part of Azerbaijan), while borders between Armenia and Azerbaijan were drawn by the Soviets under the “divide and rule” principle. And neither side is happy with the way they were drawn - Armenia wanted Karabakh and Nakhchivan in addition to what it has, while Azerbaijan wanted Zangezur and the area to the east of lake Sevan. However, the borders are what they are today and no one can blame either side for defending their internationally recognised borders as they are today

[@sakogekchyan7366]

I would agree with everything you are saying if it was not for the fact that Azerbaijan is currently the aggressor. The Karabakh issue is now off the table, so what do you want now? If it had ended with that and the next day Baku declared that the hostilities are ad end and that they are ready to sign a peace treaty and start mapping out the borders, that would have pretty much shown the people in Armenia and the Diaspora that their fears and paranoia about turks were unfounded. Instead, Azerbaijan seems to be doing everything possible to confirm those fears including occupying part of Armenia proper, adding a never-ending line of concessions we would have to make for there to be a peace treaty, and making threatening statements about the corridor. You are actually doing us a great favor by proving everything we believe about you.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@OsbornsConcise soviet wanted to give nakhchivan karabakh and zangazur to armenia but Ataturk stopped soviet union and signed Qars treaty. Azerbainan kept Nakhchivan and didn't give to armenia. Also there is an article that if armenians attack to nakhchivan, turk soldiers will enter to nakhchivan and will stop armenian occupation.

[@elvinilogy]

Russia created the problem. Azerbaijan entered to Soviet Union at much larger area, and came out at smaller area. Empire created the war.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@elvinilogy Russia gave Zangazur Goycha to Armenia which 95% azerbaijani majority until 1920. Garegin Nzdeh commited genocide against Azerbaijanis in Zangazur

[@kristaporkhach]

What a bunch of garbage… Azerbaijan is a fictitious country built on the land of others. Nakhichevan isn’t connected to Azerbaijan because it was never part of a country called “Azerbaijan.”

[@Khacmaz_edits]

Armenia is ficitious country was built by russians for divide Azerbaijan and Turkiye. Don't share fake lie informations

[@rainyeyes99]

Nakhcivan always belongs Azerbaijan .you can see that historic documents accept this fact.

[@AppoJabarian]

Sheikh Imran Hosein States: “Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh lived on those lands for Four Thousand Years! But (Baku-based artificial republic of) Azerbaijan wanted those lands.” Sheikh Imran Hosein Explains Putin & Russia's Apparent Betrayal Of Armen... kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2Wrln6fnKaaaNEsi=5WOiP8xOg6A08Cx4

[@abhilashpaul9237]

Will Canada Concede Land so that Alaska (USA) and Mainland USA connect through road? Nope, that will never happen. Why will Armenia concede land again when it lost most land to Turkey and Azerbaijan by the end of world war!!

[@Marios-br1hm]

Azerbaijan sounds like the bad guy here..

[@iliaalekov2949]

russia is the bad guy. when they made the borders they intentionaly created problems so they can play empire...

[@Aaron-rw3lv]

russians are

[@deadchannelxd0420]

i mean, the thing they dont mention is every single armenian fled azerbaijan in 2023. Along with azeri troops emacing at the border with Armenia and the president of Azerbaijan calling the Armenia West Azerbaijan.

[@OsbornsConcise]

@@deadchannelxd0420and every single Azerbaijani was forced to flee Armenia in 1988 and occupied territories in Karabakh in 1992-1994. Why dont you mention this? There is a lot of hypocricy and bias against Azerbaijan, always has been, and never acknowledged. Paint a full picture, instead of portraying one side as a bad guy. If you have to pick a bad guy here, its definitely Armenia then.

[@wimblewomble4751]

Yes, they are a dictatorship fueled by oil and gas

[@koyotefish6620]

The name itself is very literally an Armenian word

[@ALBERT-oj1vn]

The end of the situation will be more like Azerbaijan will occupy the south Armenian territories and will force Armenia to Cito lens for the final peace solution and all will be happen when Russia will pull his troops in spring. It will benefit Russia as well. Armenia was already thinking about ditching the Russians. Azerbaijan military muscle will turn Armenia back to its centuries old pro Russian policy. It is a win-win situation both for regional powers like Turkey, Iran and even Georgia in some ways. The greatest benefiters will be Azerbaijan and Russia for sure.

[@Yolk421]

No Iran won’t let that happen as they are against the corridor and against turks and azeris having more territory.

[@abisekmndhr3620]

Now make a video about european exploitation in africa.

[@lordlex6315]

This KZbin channel is an Azerbaijan propaganda channel pure and simple. Nakhichevan was ancient Armenian land until the central-asian Azerbaijani turks ethniclly cleansed all the Armenians from the territory. It is not Armenia's responsiblity to provide the genocidal Azerbaijani state transport routes to occupied parts of Armenia they ethniclly cleansed. Oh by the way - the name "Nakhichevan" is In Armenian, that tells you a lot in itself.

[@Khacmaz_edits]

Nakhchivan is ancient Azerbaijani land. Come to Nakhchivan and i will show you our historical monuments in Nakhchivan.

[@OsbornsConcise]

The entire West supports Ukraine, but when it comes to Armenia and Azerbaijan, fails to acknowledge that Azerbaijan was in exactly the same situation as Ukraine and instead often paints it as a bad guy. And situations like this are the reason the West and its values are losing respect all over the world. It is accused of double standards and hypocrisy, and not without a basis… Despite their values, many westerners cite such things as religion as dictating their preferences instead of international law and the rule of law

[@marcogianese2289]

Azerbaijan was the invaded. Doesn’t mean it can’t become the invader now.

[@OsbornsConcise]

@@marcogianese2289 it’s a possibility, but I am skeptical it would happen. That would likely trigger a major regional conflict involving Iran, Russia and Turkey. The one that would oppose it the most would be Iran and if it gets involved with its military, the whole hell would break loose between those three. Just as much as Azerbaijan wants a connection to Nakhchivan, Iran doesnt want to lose its border with Armenia, and Russia doesnt want to lose that land connection through Armenia to Iran either (if Armenia remains allied with it). And both of them want to limit or cut Azerbaijan’s land connection to Turkey

[@ArmenianBishop]

@@marcogianese2289 You're chat dialogue with Osborne is incredibly ignorant, and I wouldn't put it past him to deliberately mislead us. Don't let them sell that load of BS. Azerbaijan wasn't invaded by Armenia. Armenians have been in Artsakh more than 2,200 years, perhaps 3,000. Armenians didn't invade Artsakh, but already there for many generations. Azerbaijan wanted to kick them out, and loot their possessions, way back in the 80s & 90s, not to mention what's happening now. That's called ethnic cleansing & genocide. If you don't believe me, just look into the systematic destruction of Armenian historical landmarks, churches and cemeteries. which is obliterating all evidence of an Armenian presence in the area. In 2005, an Azeri military unit destroyed the last of some 10,000 Armenian gravestones, in Julfa, Nakhichevan. They went in and dumped the shattered stones into the Araxes (Aras) River. The whole thing was videoed from the Iranian side of the border, and in 2006, satellite photos revealed a shooting range was built over the now unmarked graves. This thing has been about genocide and ethnic cleansing, since before it escalated in 1988. In 2016, a Turkish hate speech in Sweden boasted and chanted, "Death to Armenian Dogs." Well, the world is letting them get away with it. I hope they'll do something, even sanctions would help.

[@Medic_V]

Did Ukraine try to Genocide Donbas Russians for decades? If not then Azerbaijan is nothing like Ukraine and very similar to Russia. Also Armenia never invaded Azerbaijan. Not a single country or organization except Pakistan accused Armenia in invasion. Not even Azerbaijan, before Aliyev’s came to power, accused Armenia in invading their country. The conflict was between Karabakh Armenians and Azerbaijan.

[@Medic_V]

Did Ukraine try to ethnically cleanse Russians in Donbas? If not then Azerbaijan is nothing like Ukraine and very similar to Russia. Also Armenia never invaded Azerbaijan. Not even the Azeri president of the time claimed such a thing during the war.

[@twisters999]

The best channel on the topic of the World east of European Union.

[@lordofvurgun187]

Nakhchivan isn't a problem for Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan will link Nakhcivan with Azerbaijan proper using train or road network through Iran. If Armenians really want Nakhchivan, they can try to take it back, no crying later though...

[@koyotefish6620]

Since the name itself is literally an Armenian word, no amount of effort will ever remove the historical fact of who the indigenous inhabitants are. I'm not Armenian.

[@lordofvurgun187]

@@koyotefish6620 Nakhchivan isn't an Armenian name. Search before you write, genius. And What I stated has nothing to do with the history. After all, all Armenians and their supporters can talk is history. I state again, Armenians are more than welcome to attack again. Just like in the last war, we can show them what happens when they put their nose into enemy territory. But it will be much more different than before since the defender side will be Azerbaijan. Btw I am Azerbaijani. Btw, let's send all American citizens back to Europe. At the end, they are not indigenous inhabitants, right?

[@Animallover-j8y]

If Muslims really want Palestine they can try to take it back, no crying later though.

[@Bielanski-bandzior]

It’s just a matter of time until Azerbaijan gets the corridor, either in a diplomatic way or by means of force. Armenia as a country will not cease to exist, because Armenians are masters of surviving in unpleasant circumstances.

[@Yolk421]

Iran won’t let that happen 😂

[@Bielanski-bandzior]

@@Yolk421 I don’t think so. They are already struggling and war with Israel seems on the way. Would they risk an escalation with a Muslim country after all, that allies with Turkey plus Azeris are a considerable minority in Iran. Looking at current circumstances - I think disadvantages overweigh the advantages of trying to save Armenian border.

[@Yolk421]

@@Bielanski-bandzior Iran already said no to the corridor and so did Armenia. It’s your wishful thinking it will happen.

[@taartog]

Azerbaijan never belonged to Russia. Russia came with Armenians and occupied the region.

[@sakogekchyan7366]

So tell me, where did we Armenians come from exactly?

[@РитаАйрапетова-р9е]

Росская Коммунистическая Федеративная Республику , создала назвала Азербайджан 1918 году

[@taartog]

@@sakogekchyan7366 you are from the region. I meant some of you brought Russia into the region. I have never said Armenians are not from the region.

[@lordlex6315]

Says a brainwashed azerbaijani central-asian turk 😂😂😂

[@Khacmaz_edits]

​@@sakogekchyan7366 eastern anatolia and iran. Turkmenchay treaty is proof and reliable source.

[@bigzed6195]

Nakhchivan has never been an Azerbaijan land its origin is Armenian land which Stalin when drunk screwed everything up and assigned it for 99 years to Azerbaijan. The 99 years lease is over and Azerbaijan is creating false and fake narratives to prevent the land return back to its original owners

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@bigzed6195 stalin didn't give any land to azerbaijan. Azerbaijan kept it in their lands with Qars treaty in 1921

[@Yolk421]

GAYzerGAYjan 🏳️‍🌈🇦🇿🏳️‍🌈

[@Khacmaz_edits]

@@Yolk421 your dad.

[@YALQUZAQ_AZ]

Nakchivan and Karabakh are Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

[@intjbro]

What kind of name is Nakchivan, and what does it mean?

[@YALQUZAQ_AZ]

@@intjbro Historical Azerbaijani lands,Irevan also belongs to us

[@intjbro]

@@YALQUZAQ_AZ By that logic, Azerbaijan belongs to Iran.

[@YALQUZAQ_AZ]

@@intjbro No South Azerbaijan is not Tehran republic, Tabriz will be capital of Great Azerbaijan 🇦🇿

[@intjbro]

@@YALQUZAQ_AZ Azerbaijan was a part of Persia. The name of Azerbaijan itself is from Persian, not Turkic.

[@AppoJabarian]

Sheikh Imran Hosein States: “Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh lived on those lands for Four Thousand Years! But (Baku-based artificial republic of) Azerbaijan wanted those lands.” Sheikh Imran Hosein Explains Putin & Russia's Apparent Betrayal Of Armen... kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2Wrln6fnKaaaNEsi=5WOiP8xOg6A08Cx4