Nalgene VS Klean ( Wide Mouth Stainless Steel Bottles)

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Corporals Corner

Corporals Corner

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@SteveAubrey1762
@SteveAubrey1762 5 жыл бұрын
I had narrowed my search to these two bottles. Your review was excellent and helped me make my choice. I chose the Nalgene bottle based on your recommendations. Thank you for the excellent channel! Best regards, JA
@donquixotej
@donquixotej 5 жыл бұрын
That was a genuinely great way of reviewing both products. Thanks for posting.
@toddgibson9861
@toddgibson9861 8 жыл бұрын
for the kleen canteen, I use the fish mouth spreaders for lowering into a water source and suspending over a fire. There is another cap that has a folding ring that will fit it also. But I always place my bottles in pouches of some sort. Both are good bottles and will get the job done.
@oldigger7060
@oldigger7060 6 жыл бұрын
The Nalgene has another advantage. Being 1" shorter, it also fits into smaller belt pouches.
@WallaceTheRed
@WallaceTheRed 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your channel for how succinct it is. I'm sure marines under your supervision appreciated that approach as well.
@recall5811
@recall5811 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@Pygar2
@Pygar2 7 жыл бұрын
Great and useful video- but the opening music peeled paint off my walls before I could turn it down, then I had to turn it up to hear you...
@alexbateman4301
@alexbateman4301 4 жыл бұрын
LOL me too XD
@dlighted8861
@dlighted8861 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that was just me.🤗
@rogerharris3951
@rogerharris3951 3 жыл бұрын
I own a stainless steel Nalgene bottle, and like it. One negative is that (unlike, say, Klean Kanteen) Nalgene refuses to sell replacement lids for this bottle; so you need to be extra-careful not to lose or damage the original. As they are happy to sell replacement caps for their bog-standard plastic Nalgene bottles I have difficulty understanding their policy.
@christopherfedewa7078
@christopherfedewa7078 9 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for your opinion, and for looking specifically at the threads of the two bottles. this was specifically what i needed to know.
@scottengh1175
@scottengh1175 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Been watching your KZbin videos for awhile now. I remember you using the Klean Kanteen more often. I bought 2 of both on great sales. My MSR water filter fits Nalgene for sure. I prefer drinking out of the Klean. And Nalgene is noticeably heaviler. I really like that you use these over the super expensive canteens. I have those, too. Well Dave Canterbury had the canteen kit cheaper than the bottle kit. Pathfinder kits are nice and the package deals are awesome. Hikers ask why don't I have insulated bottles.
@wondermonkeyoutdoors
@wondermonkeyoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Corporal. I'm looking to replace my platypus to reduce punctures. The platypus bags are certainly tough, but if I add in the ability to boil water, etc. the stainless bottle wins. I also appreciate the tip on having the lip around the opening to attach cordage to for lowering or suspending helped the decision. I appreciate your honest feedback. * salute *
@timothygarcia1781
@timothygarcia1781 2 жыл бұрын
A salute to you Corporal! All the way from Canada, thank you for helping me decide on a Nalgene Bottle.
@melneeds6358
@melneeds6358 6 жыл бұрын
I was curious which one was more useful, and you answered my question. thanks for another great video!
@shramj
@shramj 10 жыл бұрын
I will go with the Nalgene, love how you can put the paracord around the neck of the bottle, huge plus if you ask me.
@derkatzenfuerst6077
@derkatzenfuerst6077 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I agree with your points but I want to add that according to many reviews I have read (in 2022), there seem to be problems with the weld line in the Nalgene bottle and many buyers have reported a bad plastic smell. Might be a recent problem though.
@scuba5k
@scuba5k 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I love seeing how much you changed. It’s actually inspirational.
@humantiger72
@humantiger72 11 жыл бұрын
I have both bottles also. Two more issues with the Klean Kanteen is, if the bottle falls on its side, the cap wont keep the water in, unless it is screwed down ultra tight. My pack and stuff inside has to be aired out. And the rounded threading doesn't connect well to some water filters. I was unimpressed with the Klean Kanteen. I have only good things to say about the Nalgene.
@dlighted8861
@dlighted8861 4 жыл бұрын
Tnx for that. I am bugging in if possible but like to keep options open. Maybe even have the basics of a camp set up in a private spot. Right now my wide mouth stainless steel container is a good sized barrel shaped mug. Its really decent and doesn't even heat up with a hot liquid in it. Always looking to upgrade to something with a stopper.
@James-ke5sx
@James-ke5sx 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great info, just bought the Nalgene after watching your video. It was actually $1 cheaper than the Klean on Amazon.ca. People suggested buying this and that to achieve the advantages of the Nalgene. Thats the whole point. You don't need to buy extra caps etc. The Classic version of the Klean is too narrow a lid if I want to put in someting other than water. Gonna fit my Condor water bag on 3 day Assault bag.
@tiegefx
@tiegefx 4 жыл бұрын
this chaneel has answered so many questions for my prep pack! one of the best ive subbed to. thanks for all the info.. ^_^
@tramontane3239
@tramontane3239 3 жыл бұрын
The threads on Nalgene are more aggressive and tight. Both bottles take one half of a turn to thread down cap. The Kleen bottle turns nearly one quarter of a turn before the cap engages enough to hold bottle suspended by cap, while the Nalgene threads engage sooner. The threads on Kleen are smoothed over and dont bite while threads on Nalgene grip and hold cap sooner and better. The Kleen cap has three parts, lid, rubber seal, and metal device inside cap and falls out. The plastic is brittle on Kleen and prone to breaking by its shape as well, where as Nalgene shape and plastic material better resistant to dropping. I do not fully trust Kleen bottle cap thread in my sleep system while filled with hot water.
@wanderingcalamity360
@wanderingcalamity360 5 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening. Helped me make up my mind between the two.
@stockholm1752
@stockholm1752 7 жыл бұрын
You nailed this review. Definitely Nalgene above all other brands.
@jameshill6872
@jameshill6872 7 жыл бұрын
If you buy the 38 oz. Nalgene directly from the company when they are in stock they cost less than $30 with free shipping. I have bought 2 this way.
@psyrapmafia
@psyrapmafia 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for getting straight to the point
@commanderx2216
@commanderx2216 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, over something so simple.
@pobo6113
@pobo6113 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was a great product review. I would not have thought of using cordage on the bottle it that manner. Thanks 👍🏻
@B-leafer
@B-leafer 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Wish I saw this prior to my purchase...
@szabolcsgabnai3484
@szabolcsgabnai3484 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@stephaniemitchell8509
@stephaniemitchell8509 7 жыл бұрын
Just get a stainless steel carp "mouth spreader" for the Klean Kanteen. It expands to hold securely on the lip of the container, then you can loop paracord around the spreader and lower it into any water source or suspend over any fire with a stick. That's better than suspending it over fire with a paracord, imo, since the cord could catch fire and drop your kanteen into the fire. It's a bit extra gear, but so small and light it's worth it.
@federinik77
@federinik77 5 жыл бұрын
Another reason why to prefer the Nalgene is the type of steel, the Nalgene is made with a 18/10 stainless steel, while the Klean Kanteen is made with 18/8 stainless steel. The 18/10 is far superior to the 18/8 in relation to food, as it doesn't smell at all and it's very resistant to acid foods. The 18/10 steel is very popular in Italy for high end stainless steel cooking pots, while I cannot tell the same for 18/8, it surely has a slight metal smell and is less corrosion resistant. Not to mention that 18/10 is more expensive than 18/10. www.publickitchensupply.com/p-8653-stainless-steel-1810-vs-188-vs-180.aspx
@flatbrokefrank6482
@flatbrokefrank6482 8 жыл бұрын
You can buy all sorts of metal lids to fit the kleen canteen bottles!
@popeyecop1
@popeyecop1 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the Nalgene, I agree with you on the specs of this bottle.
@d0minar
@d0minar 2 жыл бұрын
almost bought kleen canteen till I saw this video! very useful! thanks.
@gabriel1985666
@gabriel1985666 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I did learn something. The downside is that nalgene is out of stock everywhere. So I'll take klean
@jasonh3120
@jasonh3120 6 жыл бұрын
for boiling water, use a stick and cordage to make a toggle that fits inside the mouth to suspend either bottle over a fire with a tripod.
@JH-fk8ow
@JH-fk8ow Жыл бұрын
You can add small metal wire loop on the klean kanteen, there is small ridge below the cap, you can tie a bigger string on the wire loop when needed
@FT4Freedom
@FT4Freedom 2 жыл бұрын
Love the analysis. I would add that thinner bankline with arbor knot may be more secure when lowering the bottle into a river. Thicker line with fat knot may slip off under less optimal conditions.
@timteller1400
@timteller1400 3 жыл бұрын
Old-school. Nice intro :)
@sandypaws8
@sandypaws8 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for the info..I had not thought of being able to lower it open in a stream
@einzigkeit7216
@einzigkeit7216 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Corporals :-)
@johnrackley1903
@johnrackley1903 11 жыл бұрын
Always wondered if I should spend the extra buck for this one, now I know. Thanks again for a great video and the review.
@recall5811
@recall5811 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 3 жыл бұрын
Klean Kanteen: Hiking (Light weight) Nalgene: Survival (More versitile, more robust)
@shaneschannel9289
@shaneschannel9289 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I did not know that the Nalgene has the lip on it. This really is important. If you fall or are injured while climbing down for water you could be in real trouble.
@recall5811
@recall5811 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments
@HerbalistMax
@HerbalistMax 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Cpl. Kelly!
@snpll7906
@snpll7906 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, after this I went with the Nalgene myself.
@g1981c
@g1981c 9 жыл бұрын
I just ordered this ( square, standard 38 oz ) bottle direct from Nalgene and it shipped the same day, and i have it in my hands. So much for this bottle being discontinued. Great bottle. It was $26.99 + tax with free shipping. I think i will order a second one.
@recall5811
@recall5811 9 жыл бұрын
good for you, spread the word. thanks for watching
@stockholm1752
@stockholm1752 7 жыл бұрын
g1981c -- hey, what? 38 oz. bottle discontinued? That's all I can find on EBay. I want the 1 litre (32 oz.) version, but very hard to find here across the pond. Wanna trade?
@apepex
@apepex 10 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking klean, klean, and klean than this video changed my mind. Nalgene it is! Thanks for the vid.
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
I have and use Klean Kanteen bottles. I don't like the plastic loops either, but I use the flat top lids, with the metal d ring that drops down into the lid, but does a good job securing the bottle if needed. I can see your points on the external threads, but I like the 40 ounce -v- the 38 ounce SS, or 32 ounce plastic Nalgenes. since I use carriers, I really prefer the Klean. but either one would get the job done. I do have a fishmouth spreader I can use to hang over the fire, but mostly just set it on the edge of the fire anyway.
@isaacdrake
@isaacdrake Жыл бұрын
If weight is a concern: 40 oz Klean Kanteen: 8.6 oz 38oz Nalgeen: 13.375 oz These are the published weights on their respective websites.
@hfortenberry
@hfortenberry 7 жыл бұрын
Great points! Thank you!
@Aldocello1
@Aldocello1 6 жыл бұрын
IM NALGENE ALL DAY ,BOTH OF YOUR FACTS ARE MY REASONS AS WELL AS ONE OTHER FACT , THE INNER THREADS , NONE ON THE NALGENE BUT PRESENT ON THE KLEAN KANTEEN WHICH LEADS TO BACTERIA BUILD UP ......
@dragland7268
@dragland7268 11 жыл бұрын
I ordered a couple of the Nalgene Goyot bottles a week or so ago from Amazon. They are hard to find but they're great bottles. I prefer them over the Kleen Canteen for the reason you mention. Either on fits nicely in a GSI stainlrss cup. I plan to order the Humangear Capcap to make drinking easier and quicker. Check it out if you aren't familiar with them. Good video.
@paultambakis8171
@paultambakis8171 3 жыл бұрын
This is high quality content.
@camomarv
@camomarv 2 жыл бұрын
very good thoughts about the two bottles thank you !
@kekelaward
@kekelaward 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks for the info. I was ready to get a Klean and would have been disappointed if I did. I've see some people who make the noose out of part of a wire hanger to be able to pick the bottle up from a fire.
@jamesozment1
@jamesozment1 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Corporal!
@efromhb
@efromhb 6 жыл бұрын
Hadn't seen this review but found it by searching for the SS Nalgene. Just ordered one from Ama-zon. I heat water in the evening and keep it in a Nalgene for keeping warm at night. No worry with the SS version of harmful chemicals leaching out with boiled water. Sad that my glow in the dark bottle won't be getting as much use. Thanks for the review NCO style. Rah!
@TangoGulf
@TangoGulf Жыл бұрын
The cap is still plastic and its touching the water while its hot
@bsd9230
@bsd9230 7 ай бұрын
❤ Great review and suggestions. How do these compare now to your Corporals Corner Water Bottle and to the Pathfinder Bottle? Looking for a CC bottle and cup set, but you're always sold out in 10 minutes. Obviously superior product.
@larryharlson3721
@larryharlson3721 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't you ues the pathfinder bottles instead of the Nalgene? I do enjoy the the information you give in all your videos.
@willemOO3
@willemOO3 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Corporal Kelly. I've got a question: I remember you showed in one of your videos how you made the "hat" you wear on your head. (from a part of an old T-shirt as I remember well)
@bradquall1547
@bradquall1547 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question about these bottles and your knowledge is very vital to me...which do you perfer...a single or double wall bottle ? And why please... Thanks in advance...
@rld1278
@rld1278 4 жыл бұрын
Single, double can burst in a fire and tender useless.
@deanoboland
@deanoboland Жыл бұрын
Great advice Cpl
@timlipinski2571
@timlipinski2571 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video ! Think it was Survival Lilly that said the same about the Nalgene Water Bottle... And she is better looking. And ask your favorite Nurse at the local hospital for one of the plastic Nalgene Bottle that they through out... Must get the metal bottle for one of my kits. tjl
@dlighted8861
@dlighted8861 5 жыл бұрын
Right now I am going with the nalgene collapsible canteen. It is 75% off right now and will keep me going until a good stainless steel bottle comes my way. My theory is water in plastic is better than no water at all. Since it is collapsible it can act as a backup later on.
@starchuk1735
@starchuk1735 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the klean canteens and you can also purchase different lids for very cheap, my setup is rigged up with paracord around the neck and has never failed me.
@AppalachianFreedom
@AppalachianFreedom 11 жыл бұрын
Good comparison Sir!
@chastener666
@chastener666 3 ай бұрын
Здравствуйте, интересный обзор. У меня тоже есть настоящая оригинальная Nalgene 38oz. stainless steel, которой пользуюсь 4 года, и эта буталка мне нравится. Но есть один неприятнвй момент, который я обнаружил: на внутренней стороне стенки, круговой сварочнвй шов, и этот сварочный шов ржавый.😢 Я не могу понять, у меня одного такой дефект в бутылке? И как это влияет на содержимое?😢 Если ответите, то спасибо за ответ.
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 6 жыл бұрын
Good test Corporal.
@alzathoth
@alzathoth 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the looped lid but I also like the lipped edge on the latter. I guess its a tradeoff. I DO like the pathfinder canteen, however I DON'T like the current pathfinder canteen carry options; I find that the canteen hangs funny, but maybe that's just me.
@Espi68One
@Espi68One 3 жыл бұрын
Just picked of two of the Nalgene from a company in Spain, Trekkin (or something like that) for $27.50 each, since Amazon sellers were out, but just checked, they are on Amazon for $30 each. Just something to carry in my car bag.
@survivalltsurvivallt9429
@survivalltsurvivallt9429 5 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@Taromovies
@Taromovies 11 жыл бұрын
great comparison review, take care Taro
@michaeloneal7982
@michaeloneal7982 6 жыл бұрын
Are the bottles single or double layered? Can you boil in a double layer "thermos" bottle? Semper Fi Brother
@dragland7268
@dragland7268 11 жыл бұрын
I tried to post this several times but have been having technical difficulties. I prefer the Nalgene Guyot for the same reason you mentioned.
@justaguy427
@justaguy427 5 жыл бұрын
This video is good to go. Outstanding. Nalgene it is.
@CMRinehart
@CMRinehart 10 жыл бұрын
All Klean Kanteens have a loop cap that rope, chain, etc., that can easily and simply be attached to for carrying them. They all can have loop caps.
@recall5811
@recall5811 10 жыл бұрын
how do you fill the canteen with the cap on if you have to drop it down into the water?..........and if a full klean is dropped on the hard ground or onto a rock and the cap "loop" gets cracked or broken how do you "carry it" by a loop? thanks for watching
@CMRinehart
@CMRinehart 10 жыл бұрын
***** The loops caps are heavy grade. Good tips and video. Stay safe.
@recall5811
@recall5811 10 жыл бұрын
Charles Rinehart you too, and good luck
@thegreateststruthsnevertold
@thegreateststruthsnevertold 9 жыл бұрын
***** Preparation - drill two small holes, to accept small diameter wire… that can be made into a loop. If you were drop the Nalgene on it's cap, enough times, that would also break. At the end of the day, as you said it's personal preference. Kleen Canteen's profile, is straight all the way down to the bottom & is a larger capacity - so it's a no brainer really… it's Kleen Canteen ALL……. the WAY..!
@Aldocello1
@Aldocello1 6 жыл бұрын
HOW DO YOU HANG THE "LOOP CAPS" OVER A FIRE TO BOIL WATER WHEN NEEDED ... YOU CANT , CAPS MUST BE REMOVED TO BOIL SAFELY AND THAT IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OUT IN THE BUSH .....BUT US ACTUALLY OUT ON THE BUSH KNOW THIS ... NALGENE =BUSH KLEAN KANTEEN = GLAMPERS
@veteranpatriot4474
@veteranpatriot4474 5 жыл бұрын
Truth Be told I went with the Clean Canteen for 1 major reason. It was the ONLY one that I could find in a store.
@dragland7268
@dragland7268 11 жыл бұрын
I plan to feet the Humangear Capcap to make drinking easier and less time consuming. Check it out if you aren't familiar with it. Good video brother.
@lutherwikleiii8805
@lutherwikleiii8805 4 жыл бұрын
Eeerrrrr. I heard about these at Bridgeport. Awesome video as usual.
@Tonys_Podium
@Tonys_Podium 2 жыл бұрын
What is chakwa? There is a stainless cap available for the Klean Kanteen.
@andrewtimms4299
@andrewtimms4299 10 жыл бұрын
great video. Thanks
@kurtsteiner8384
@kurtsteiner8384 4 жыл бұрын
Good but you can use a barrel sling to tie it to 2nd bottle.
@dragland7268
@dragland7268 11 жыл бұрын
I just bought some of the Nalgene Guyot bottles from Amazon. They are hard to find, but available if you search. They fit nicely in the GSI cup. I prefer the Nalgene for the same reason you mention. I plan to get the Human gear Cap cap to make drinking from the bottle easier and less time consuming. Good video brother.
@eugenjigane7219
@eugenjigane7219 7 жыл бұрын
hy can you please see if the nalgene hold 38oz or actually 32oz cause I see that have the same size as normal 32oz nalgene Thank you
@shaneschannel9289
@shaneschannel9289 11 жыл бұрын
I would like to upgrade to the Nalgene bottle after watching your video. I do, however, like the Klean Kanteen lids. Are they interchangeable?
@recall5811
@recall5811 11 жыл бұрын
no they are not, sry bro
@mihovildanicic5305
@mihovildanicic5305 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@AaronMaz
@AaronMaz 3 жыл бұрын
My Klean Canteen lid is horrible. The washer doesn’t stay in place and is easily lost. They also don’t sale replacement washers and you are require to replace the whole lid unless you can find one that fits. I ended up using a thermoflask lid but when dropped it has come apart spilling water. Not good in a hunting or survival situation. Just ordered the Nalgene one today. I’m hoping it performs better.
@3YT.638
@3YT.638 7 жыл бұрын
Which is the original Guyot design bottles lable? Nalgene...Guyot or Nalgene etc... can someone help me please...Thank you
@jerryrubio9963
@jerryrubio9963 4 жыл бұрын
Walmart sells a SS 36 oz water bottle thats double wall vacuum insulation for $9.79 but I don't know if you can heat it in a fire. Can you compare it for us. Very Price friendly.
@uncatila
@uncatila 5 жыл бұрын
I have the SS Nalgene one. should I get the titanium heavy cover set as well
@Mr.56Goldtop
@Mr.56Goldtop 9 жыл бұрын
Very valid points.
@liberalgunnut1592
@liberalgunnut1592 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll there’s your problem with your metrics… you switched your opening music. Bring back the metal, the dew rag and the flavor saver and you’re in business!!!! I was just trying to watch your old videos to throttle things up and found MTV sports version of the Corner. Keep up the outstanding work!!!
@recall5811
@recall5811 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@kathys53
@kathys53 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know of a stainless steel cup that would nest properly in the 18 oz wide mouth Klean Kanteen? Remember, 18 oz, not 16 oz LOL. I do wish I had seen this video years ago. I might have made a different choice.
@tz8565
@tz8565 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. What name of intro song?
@garyhughes5558
@garyhughes5558 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jasmachugh4222
@jasmachugh4222 Жыл бұрын
I read that the Nalgene isn't insulated but the Kleen Kanteen is
@recall5811
@recall5811 Жыл бұрын
Neither of these things were stated and both were shown in the video to no be insulated
@baufender
@baufender 9 жыл бұрын
which feels more impact resistant?
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 8 жыл бұрын
+BauFender I think the Klean Kanteen is lighter so the walls might be thinner. I have the 64oz version and got a small dent in it from dropping it. Nothing major and no leakage, but It hit the bottom corner and it wobbles a bit when placed on a flat surface. But do note that Klean Kanteen uses food grade 18/8 instead of the higher grade surgical steel that the SS Nalgene uses. Also, the Klean Kanteen caps have a stainless interior and silicone o-rings, so most of the water will only touch the steel.
@davidgomez5116
@davidgomez5116 2 ай бұрын
They dont make them like they used to you should do an updated video showing them again
@Voeris1
@Voeris1 10 жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought you were gonna say "because it's made in the USA" like a certain idiot here on youtube. Glad you didn't. Cool video and channel.
@recall5811
@recall5811 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for realizing this, and thanks for the comments and views
@ItsMeUrDaad
@ItsMeUrDaad 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think you mentioned this, but it matters to some. The Nalgene is supposedly made in America, while the Kleen Kanteen is made "Responsibly in China." Definitely helps me make my decision. Nalgene.
@recall5811
@recall5811 10 жыл бұрын
This why we have an open forum, to post the things that we forget, thank you for this, this might be a deciding factor for someone else....
@SwampMarine1911
@SwampMarine1911 10 жыл бұрын
according to a review on Amazon the Nalgene is not made in the USA.
@recall5811
@recall5811 10 жыл бұрын
check the website nalgene.com/
@wcresponder
@wcresponder 10 жыл бұрын
made in china.
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561 6 жыл бұрын
I'll take the China. Its just a bottle and it's going to be healthier for your wallet. Actually I don't use either I carry a thermos with a SS canteen style cup.
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