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[@GrindmodeTMC]

One thing nobody talking about is 21 manager. Dude got the self motivation & the will to grow. You can tell if you meet em you’ll gain something from him after the conversation over. Big props to him!! 21 got a solid team around him. To all artist u need this forsure!

[@mikelambo7133]

Yea homie solid fr 21 lit

[@ezbread14]

Meezy real solid fr

[@15acontent]

💯💯💯

[@Adboss17]

Yep he perfect for 21.21 is enlightened though, he ahead of a lot of rappers mentally not lyrically but just as a dude.

[@icegrill73]

They should've had Bigga sit in the background, and allow 21's manager to sit in the chair. He was a solid part of most of this interview.

[@OCTOmgnt]

"If you got $2-$300,000 to spend on a career, my honest advice is go do some other shit, buy real estate or something" -21 Savage. In a room full of grown men, young dude is the one spitting grown man bars. There are way faster ways to make money outside of entertainment if your already holding a quarter of million before you start. And this coming from someone who bought his first property in NYC off of 90's music money.

[@godofthisshit]

@JLW_NYC You still got your first property?

[@Truknowledgephilly]

Yeah this is a gem right here

[@MylesSquared]

Math nailed it at the end. They just trying to keep their bags coming in... they know what they are saying is bs lol

[@OCTOmgnt]

@@godofthisshit absolutely, it was a brownstone.

[@godofthisshit]

@@OCTOmgnt Congrats. Don't sell, but if you ever do, sell to me.

[@gpproductionz]

21 Savage is in a unique space where he's young and independent, but got a mature mind set where he garners the old head respect that most rappers his generation can't get. I like seeing his growth and contributions to the game.

[@breymaize9608]

The streets made him grow mentally cause he been thru so much. Young nigga old soul. Prolly saved his life

[@dregb1]

up north and down south having enthusiastic hip hop talk... luv it.

[@BIGCHEEZY616]

No kap! That's 100

[@gregpride4549]

“I was hot before he was my manager”. That’s a new classic one liner. Great episode, 21 is a great guest.

[@KingBeastBDE]

The OG in the room is funny asl. When everybody is hyped n loud. OG just be chilling 🤣🤣🤣

[@Skywalker721]

💯🤣

[@DevvGaming101]

Everybody smiling n cheesing OG ain’t show no teeth. Shades on 😂😂

[@Poteluz]

That dude be throwing off the energy in there when he's in the frame, over there trying to act like he's Suge or some shit.

[@chart0105]

I think because the manager is talking more than the actual guest.. I peep that the whole interview..he get annoyed everytime buddy interrupt a question

[@KingBeastBDE]

@@Poteluz I can see that. I felt that way too at first. But now it’s just funny to me 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@DDyke]

10:52 "I WAS HOT BEFORE HE WAS MY MANGER NIGGA, YOU CANT LEAVE THAT PART OUT!" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 21 got me rolling!

[@thatboylazo]

He had to come in with those facts real quick lol

[@insomthegreat]

He had the streets....

[@omegawicked1]

lol

[@iammeallday]

This is a testament to how important it is to have solid people with vision around you 21 and his manager are locked in ...reminds me of Wayne and his manager Cortez

[@barrekelly]

I heard Wayne fired Cortez & he was takin weezy to court or some shit 🤔

[@iammeallday]

@@barrekelly Cortez was his manager for 20 years. I am referring to when they were working together not to any dispute they have currently.

[@HighKeyVizion]

Math was right, especially at the end. Once these new artist realize they don't NEED a bag to bubble and pop, that's will affect A LOT of these middleman gatekeepers' pockets. They was arguing against that at all costs. 😂

[@Rondondemarco]

*super FACTS*

[@Skywalker721]

Less talented artists will always spend that money because they can’t rely on their talent. It’s never going to change into some pure, organic culture bruh. Only extremely talented artists, artists with connections, & artists who work way harder than everyone else can get on without paying. Labels successfully builds artists who can’t even sing or rap. They don’t actually need to chase the most talented people.

[@ralphedwards7321]

Word especially dude with the glasses and the dreads

[@sandiegorilla]

You are right but only if new artist actually study and understand what being independent truly means. The blueprint has already been laid by Skywalker Records, No Limit Records, Cash Money Records, and Strange Music. It’s almost like the grind or the independent artist’s struggle isn’t even a struggle anymore. 21 Savage appears to be a student of lessons taught by previous generations.

[@waltjones6927]

Yep then they gone go out there and realize that's bullshit🤣🤣 you need thousands to make it nowadays

[@charlesthomas942]

I like how brothers can have a convo with different perspectives and it be respectful. We don’t always have to agree but at least we can shake hands afterwards.

[@donreef2466]

I gain so much respect for Math Hoffa. This is what you call reinventing yourself and taking advantage of your opportunity.

[@mikemike3754]

No hate but damn yall post this comment on every video every clip he uploads

[@dekexz19]

@@mikemike3754 LITERALLY. I’m proud/happy for Math too but like son can we discuss the topic of the video 😂

[@him4440]

@@mikemike3754 bruh on me lmaooo

[@federal6616]

Don't know him. But I like his energy with this platform.

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

@@mikemike3754 facts

[@flyguy131]

The energy on these clips with the 21 Savage interview are F'n Lit! Love all that bag talk. Keep it coming Math and Crew. Salute! From St Croix USVI but Its Brooklyn Baby!

[@yourstrulytron3222]

One of the best interviews i've watched. Black men are so powerful. I enjoyed watching everyone's minds come together collectively. There were each one teach one moments.

[@gastarbeiter8384]

Why y’all always have to put your skin color into everything man pathetic

[@robertmichaeladams1334]

"powerful".... you tryna come thru shawty?! 🤣

[@keikei1943]

Get lost

[@vmbo]

21 Savage had a unique sound and amazing beats. I'm an old head who listened mostly to golden age hip hop, but I knew 21 would be a star when I heard Red Opps for the first time. That blew up and the rest is history.

[@josephcarter7577]

YOUNGBOY REALLY DA ONLY ARTIST DAT DONT GET RADIO PLAYS AND STILL DO BIGGER NUMBERS DEN OTHER BIG ARTIST 💚

[@Bo55edup]

I still can't understand why either 🤷‍♂️ His music don't do anything for me lol and it ain't b/c I'm from up north b/c I can get into Kevin Gates but that YB shit just ain't it.

[@ogp1957]

@@Bo55edup thank u🤝🏾im not hatin but yb musik aint shiii to me

[@King_ace22]

@Vantum Noir go listen to his new song just listen to his flow switchs thats why are go listen to lonely child to here his story and his pain

[@josephcarter7577]

@@Bo55edup DONT GAF IF ITS NOT YO TYPE OF MUSIC PLSS DONT LISTEN TO IT IF U DONT LIKE CAUSE ITS SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY FVCKS WIT HIS MUSIC TO ME BUT WATEVER FLOOT YO BOAT 💯

[@mauricebrown1277]

I don’t get it either. YB got a whole ecosystem that big artists like 21 ain’t even coming close too. But he signed a fucked up deal. So he’ll never see the money 21 see.

[@BakerClassics]

That security gaurd staring out the window got some serious discipline.

[@LowkeyDreadz]

I remember when 21 dropped, I lived in Atl at the time. A lot of artists do what 21 did, but didn't blow up the same. Thugga, Lucci, are 2 that did. He has a point about knowing your worth & denying certain things for the bigger goal.

[@marvinsepulveda1802]

I see why hov fought to get 21 home! He’s either very smart or has a great team; either way they’re doin great biz!

[@dgayle2348]

Dude in the purple looks and sounds like he did some very evil things in his life and is trying his best to live a righteous path but it's strange and foreign to him.

[@ogp1957]

I swea lol

[@catchwreck928]

notice he always talking bout religion at the most random times lol, he finna snap 1 day

[@sphinixnpharoah]

@@catchwreck928 😅😅 🥸

[@mostmost1]

Artist need to build their own foundation. Build their own buzz. One person can share a clip of a tik tok video of your song and you can blow up. Dont sell every rights of your craft to managers, middle men and the rest. An artist like Cardi B who was considered another stripper trying to rap, but her personality, following and hustle was there before she was signed.

[@allaboutthemurzic]

Facts

[@reseecupz1643]

Facts! Majority of her fans love her for her personality prior and the grind of her being the underdog who made it. Not because she’s the best rapper. She’s a solid artist that grew into an entertainer.

[@durrtyjerzeeable]

Jay Z was paying a bag when nobody was payin like him lmao...and 21 is right when cd's gotta move it's different

[@3star2nr]

Yeah the game has changed that's why u can't compare rappers. In Jay Z days you had to have huge money to get on radio and cut cds. Today you can build a pretty badass studio for under 3k and pay 29.00 and be up worldwide distribution... The pros to jay z time was way less competition and if u had stacks like Jay u could buy the whole damn industry. That doesn't exist now. 65000 songs are uploaded to spotify per day now... the average listen time is 5 secs... Back in the day if u sold a cd for 10.00 u got that cash instant. Even if u only had 1 good track u still made 10/unit. Now u have to wait 4 months to get $4.00/1000 streams... It's literally a marketing gift to extra money from artists and get us to do free marketing for the streaming platforms...

[@3star2nr]

But dread dude was right it's all about perspective. A true artist will put in the work but their career ain't gonna pop off till 40. They also aren't gonna be on hot 97 or the grammies... A person just trying to stack paper needs to follow what dread dude is saying. Fly to Vegas pay dude a stack get on rap caviar. Then get a meet with the AR take whatever they give u. Go on tour be relevant for a year or two make 2-5mil and switch to product. Both paths aren't wrong or right they are just paths

[@crashmuzic]

kodak black, mo3, 21 savage, young thug, young boy, Crash muzic was all goin crazy independent b4 they signed. especially mo3

[@dondadaofficial205]

Big facts had the streets in a headlock fasho

[@edwardniqqa-hanz9099]

Need a "keep it a brick" counter to see how many times he says that in these clips. 🤣

[@sixfourkid]

This interview along with the Fat Joe interview should put Math in a different league as far as podcast. These are by far his best 2 interviews to date and once that drop should sit him at the table with Drink Champs, JB, Million Dollars and the rest of the top tier hip hop podcast. Salute!

[@richhomiespidey]

no they not they low key weak asf just cause they noticeable artist but they average at best

[@lifestraight]

Whos JB?

[@barrekelly]

@@lifestraight Joe Budden Podcast JPB

[@sixfourkid]

@@richhomiespidey Name me 3 more popular Hip Hop podcast? I'll wait. And in case you confused Top Tier does necessarily mean they good or the best but simply the most well known and popular which is my point.

[@tred5422]

@@sixfourkid akademiks, Adam 22, & vlad

[@enzigenes]

Savage is right, you had to print CDs, and that shit costs money. CDs were going for $10-20 a pop depending on the region you were in. It was like moving dope. Mixtapes too. Drama and Cannon made a fortune until the Feds pulled dup.

[@SuckaFree-zq9rh]

They were selling for 10-20 once music was on em but not before homie

[@yvstla6763]

Baby def would’ve been baby. I live in New Orleans and in 2018 i went to a big ass party and the DJ’s was playing nothing but Baby and everybody in the club knew his songs except me.

[@johncain3389]

This convo is all facts math Hoffa was someone I heard battle in high school so to see his podcast is easy for me to watch because he someone I’m familiar with even a decade later that’s what building yourself organically means

[@joshbridges2502]

I need the whole thing , I’m from ATL so when I seen you had 21 on here I knew it was gon be 🔥🔥🔥

[@hueyq4513]

Colli' Park in the Buildin!!!

[@sidrospe1001]

Esso the whole episode “ 😂😂😂😮😮😮😮😮😲😲😲😲🤭🤭🤭😅😅😅🥹🥹🥹😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 “ 😂😂😂

[@barekvaughn8459]

He was going crazy this episode 😂

[@therealofficaltylove]

Honestly didn't know 21 savage was this smart with music! Never been a fan.... but he just gained one today.. much respect 🚫🧢

[@dwillwilliams1240]

Hynekan…we know u lived down south….u said it 50 times lol 😂

[@catchwreck928]

hes still non ados/non fba even tho im a new yorker MY ROOTS ARE DOWN SOUTH AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THE INCEPTION OF AMERIKKKA

[@kingsalomon1058]

@@catchwreck928 West Indians are from here too, lookup the Bonempak Temples. When the Spanish Moors came here, then the Crypto Jews, they used indigenous so called Black's from North, Central & South America to build up their Corporations such as East Indian Tea Co. They had the American Indians (AA's & West Indians) go down into the 🏝 and grow tobacco, sugar, and coffee among other things to boost them up economically.

[@kingjofferyjoe3143]

The manager talk too much RESPECTFULLY

[@bigteezyftp2190]

That algorithm what got this in my playlist cuz ain’t capping… Glad I watched though great Sitdown

[@mwanzafitalpha9827]

Things that might improve your or someone else life - Loving yourself (changed my life) - Getting Sunlight - Nof4p - working out - investing money (crypto, stocks, savings emergency fund) - ending bad habits (snoozing, gossiping, procrastinating) - planning your days - Eating healthier & learning to cook - weekly walks (in nature, no headphones/AirPods) - drinking water daily (1-2 liters) - Reading at least 5-10 pages of an (e)book - Quitting drugs/alcohol (you don't need that bs) - meditating - Giving to the less fortunate - cutting out bad friends & family - minimalism - Learning a (remote) skill (coding, music, designing, marketing) - Behaving how you supposed to, according to your gender (man or woman)

[@supersaiyanslice]

21 the best guess yet! I can’t wait to see the full video.

[@jtrams17]

Math deserves a million subs !!!! I swear 💪🏾💯

[@ldeatgreedy6830]

Sauce Walka pretty Big & Paid his way. He got Texas on LOCK independently & he can rap! Just my opinion tho 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@misunderstood2292]

“LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DROP THESE RECORDS…” - MATH…💯

[@KCBAYBOI]

Math is right at the end them keeping the bag going with that old thinking lol, the South combined does business way different then New York. One state vs multiple in the South. They don't even need the coasts to become popping and rich

[@arkansasceltic]

Facts we move different in the south & the hustle different too! First you build your buzz in the streets than you start linking up & connecting with other local rappers & go from there. It’s not easy but it’s doable

[@godofthisshit]

@@arkansasceltic That's the same way it's done in NY.

[@MylesSquared]

Nah it's not different in NY. It's the same method everywhere, Math was on point at the end im glad someone said it.

[@KCBAYBOI]

@@MylesSquared You probably right, maybe it's just more people in the business trying to keep the old ways around lol

[@Skywalker721]

It 100% depends on the individual. There’s no universal answer for everyone.

[@yvstla6763]

Dude in the blue sweater is super aggravating

[@AGentlemansJourney77]

You know you're early when there's no views and only 4 likes.

[@yolodolo1237]

Shutup

[@taureangraves122]

Hoffa saying let’s see when I drop these records 😂😂😂

[@goddlyvibes7424]

I believe in this day and age people fuck with your lifestyle more than anything else so with that being said I support 21 with what he said about starting something else when you’ve got that type of money 💰. The main point is that a lot of people do music just cause they wanna be famous and forget it’s actually marathon not a race. You can be a new rapper and because of your lifestyle people will fuck with you and you don’t even gotta pay. Imagine a nigga pulling up in a Rolls Royce, he might be a newbie in the game but people gonna fuck with him regardless cause they wanna know how he got there

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

It cost to maintain a lifestyle some of these dudes lose more trying to keep up the rapper lifestyle then actually making money from rap

[@Reppintimefitness]

Notification gang member in the building

[@TWD573TWD]

Go get a life

[@leahmaye9678]

I CANT WAIT TELL THIS FULL INTERVIEW COME OUT .

[@gamecrazyoo1]

You can’t pay to be out in the algorithm you can pay for ads but it would be labeled as such . And paid ads usually don’t work because people want organic they don’t like being forced shit . The algorithm is all about location and what’s popular in those areas you can insert yourself into the algorithm if you figure out what works in your area . The algorithm are also different for different platforms but it’s all based on the consumers data compared to other consumers data to recommend you the next videos and songs or create playlists .

[@Millisama]

I love the fact this is probably the first time i have ever heard 21 get loud

[@Tokyohandles_]

Props to my man’s for never turning around from the door.

[@djairalert422]

Dude wit the dreads wanna be the smartest in the room so bad, stay tryna debate 21 and his manager. #relax

[@eddieogun]

Nigga voice annoying on top of that

[@3star2nr]

Well he's not wrong. 21 savage is an exception to the rule cause he's fucking incredible. That's the point dude is trying to make that 21 savage doesn't have to spend but a more average artist gotta spend. Or put in the time and work to get good

[@someblackguy5583]

2:46 “I’m from Atlanta… 🧍🏾‍♂️”

[@JackOBee29]

This fire thanks Hoffa

[@sharazzjohnson1391]

Can't wait till the full video out

[@Flow_Easy]

But what's wrong with buying billboards and Ad's? Isn't that a form of marketing, if you're trying to cut out the fuckery and the middle man, just do it that way.

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

Yeah I'm so lost lol to me this conversation is pointless

[@hatemadebuddymac375]

They are asking can it be done without buying billboards, ads and radio play

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

@@hatemadebuddymac375 its a stupid question. No business stays successful without marketing.

[@hatemadebuddymac375]

@@JohnDoe-gc1kt you kinda creating your own narrative and mixing regular business the conversation the gist of the question is can an artist/rapper make it big without buying their way in🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

@@hatemadebuddymac375 even a company or product that blows up organically still has to market themselves. Things are always changing thats just life.

[@6ixOh9ineRacks]

Ayo this ep 🔥 and got me cracking up 😂 Salute Hoffa 🫡 keep bringing that fire content 💯💯

[@donnibaby1]

They fuck w 21. Old heads and young boys rock w son!! Not saying they old but you feel me.

[@prof3ssor178]

Best show on KZbin in awhile! 💯 Math deserves an award for this show fasho

[@icegrill73]

They should've had Bigga sit in the background, and allow 21's manager to sit in the chair. He was a solid part of most of this interview.

[@tdmidas289]

Lil baby and 21 will be who they are regardless. But why we ignoring that drake and cole took them to a different stratosphere. Once they proved they can rap with them they respect flew further

[@dondadaofficial205]

Drake and Cole did their part but lil baby and 21 already had the streets in a headlock before they got with drake and cole

[@glennusher4160]

21 is not who he is.. He grew up with money and a family.. He pretends to be gangster in his songs. he has not real street life story

[@King_ace22]

To me it sounds like he say yb paying for success did it sound like that to you

[@cenacenaFU]

@@glennusher4160 bruh shut up you don’t know nothing about this mans life you just repeating what you heard some other bozo say on the internet

[@dondadaofficial205]

@@glennusher4160 did you grow up with him or were you in the trenches with him or do you have reliable sources to back up your statement ??

[@RTBPODCAST]

I'ma tell you what's classic..... The way y'all did it💯 yessir 👑

[@craigharper7113]

I like how math keep it even he dont get to hyped or to low, his patience is on point!

[@sunson187]

Is this 21 savage interview or dude in green jacket🧐

[@masavoy0228]

Didn't Meg's label drop $2M on her before anyone outside of Texas knew her

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

Yeah she was lucky enough to signed to a ex MLB star with a big bag to play with

[@torilanier]

Great podcast 💯

[@propaganja7264]

Idk why but 21 sound funny when he raise his voice "dont leave that out!" Was funny as shit

[@osnlswayayeday]

"Well let's see what happens when I drop these records" (looks at the camera) I Love It lol

[@miges6200]

I only watch 21 interviews because his Manager be speaking facts 🔥

[@KingUnique_]

I don’t think they understand, down south a lot of these boys pop because of they face card before the music. We truly support our friends and family. And social media plays a huge role. We blast music all day, people will come up to u at the gas station, car wash and ask what’s that u listening to.

[@memphismadekel]

Thank you mane thats what separates us from up north

[@KingUnique_]

@@memphismadekel facts! Southern hospitality goes a long way

[@memphismadekel]

@@KingUnique_ up north ain’t got that

[@GoldMoufP]

I fuck wit 21 so heavy for this and Matt cuz he was right af at the end … “these niggas tryna keep the bag going” 😂 them industry middle men scared of niggas like 21 man no cap

[@ministerforprofitministerf1671]

@11:04 sec I AGREE WIT MATH THEM 2 niggas TRYN to protect their hustle by making niggas think they r needed… LISTEN TO PPL ARGUMENTS AND U CAN TELL WHERE THEIR INTEREST IS AT!

[@ncnyc4418]

im 31and the generation right ahead of me misread the youth so bad lol

[@HvrlemJvmvicvn]

Dave East, Vado, Jadakiss or Styles P would be dope 🔥

[@tymjones9969]

UPLOAD THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW!!!! Plzz

[@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords]

Only Ny A&Rs etc feel theres only 1 way to success when its the furthest thing from the truth.....

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

Do A&Rs even exist anymore

[@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords]

@@MrWARBUCKS24 yea they right on this show family, I don't remember they names because I'm high but I believe the guy with 21 is one and also the guy with the long dreads is an A&R

[@SneakSneakTV]

Great sit down &podcast !! i fuck with the content and the energy Fasho , hopefully i can be on tht bihh one day

[@oceancity5776]

Math your pod took over the skreets with 21 interview bro. Salute!

[@KingDavidTBE]

"No one plan is the plan..."🔥🔥🔥

[@robk6831]

Sorry to burst the bubble. But 21 is signed to Epic, which is owned by Sony. Sony 2000% percent put money behind 21 charting.. independent my ass.

[@kingkendrick44]

I love convos like this🗣💯✊🏿🙏🏿

[@theresalong1095]

You are right most people do not want to share their information to help others get up

[@JayFingers]

🤣🤣🤣 I love this energy.

[@kingbong9710]

The name 21 savage alone helped 4sure!! It’s catchy and makes people wanna check you out

[@raymoore1571]

Great interview!!!!

[@ragthree21]

I’m not cool with them ishing on Baby and QC to paise to 21. 21 even corrects them and they still talk like they know better. Salute to Math and the overall convo tho.

[@higheyes8347]

Precs whooping OG ass. Nigga is fighting life.

[@Ghost-mh7rt]

5:46 Ayo 21 said "my first album if you wanna call it a album" slaughter tape is a classic bro 4L

[@propaganja7264]

2:44 swear this EXACTLY how the barbershop be on my block lol

[@motorsroarmouthstalk3947]

I like how Dawg gave MATH his flowers 💯💯💯💯

[@2wotimes906]

The whole session was really tapped in absolutely dope...........but brody dont ever flip ur hair like that again lmfao 🤣😂

[@henryhudson4965]

His manager went to the Diddy school of management, but even Diddy didn't even speak over his clients and answer questions directed to his clients.

[@HighKeyVizion]

It seems like Savage don't have an issue with it, when he has to get his point across he vocal about it. That manager hold weight about as much as Savage, just behind the scenes.

[@TIMJMEANSBUSINESS]

21 is right. NBA Youngboy don’t have radio and he’s one of the biggest artist right now.

[@STEADYGAMBINO81]

Congratulations on the 400k @math

[@Impactframess]

2:35 boy in the back like what is this ruckus 😶

[@dtc8756]

At 9 minutes. Exactly how I found Dolph and Key Glock.

[@DjCBlaq]

New sub and new respect for 21. I'm not a super fan of his but respect.

[@losworkin]

Lol why OG wit the yellow hoodie posted up in the chair just lookin at everybody like peasants 🤣

[@DocKaosBeats]

Bigga looking like he ready beat someone up lol

[@henryhudson4965]

I respect 21 Savage just from this interview alone. It's okay to give me My flowers, but don't kiss My a.ss because of My status. He understands anyone can do what he does if they're willing to put in the work. The organic word is being overused.

[@justusshabazz-allah4074]

Glad Math said that werd Get yourself Hot y’all when you meet the Meccas of the work walk in the door knowing your worth

[@gedaking2319]

Lol math hit the Craig from Friday look on us ... 😆

[@JamzNharail]

This pod was dope man, thank you guys... P.S, Esso face too big for them Cornrows