Naminé, Marluxia and Overcoming Envy - Kingdom Hearts

[@goldensunset6295]

amazing video essay!!! marluxia’s character, especially in light of union cross, is SO fascinating. and naminé is such a stellar character who absolutely deserves this love. plus shoutout to the appreciation for my boy repliku at the end! not entirely sure if it’s relevant, but marluxia’s storyline being tied to envy is also so fascinating when you consider that it was arguably envy that took his sister away from him. ventus wanted friends, he wanted some sort of power, he wanted a place to belong and to matter… he must have been jealous seeing people around him have friends like that. obviously he would’ve never actively chosen to get all this by killing someone and stealing from her, but the darkness that overtook him definitely was feeding on those feelings of desire. he didn’t even know her and yet she had everything he wanted, and the darkness must’ve known that, which is likely why it targeted her. he filled the role strelitzia was supposed to have played in the group and in lauriam’s life. and yet none of this gets resolved and it’s all forgotten… moral of the story is envy ruins lives, right

[@gearvanguard]

thank you so much for the kind words and share, I'm very grateful!! It's awesome how later entries can do so much for earlier stuff in the series, can't wait to see how future games like Missing Link, KH4 and everything onwards will add to UX and the series in general. Like what we've seen from Marluxia/Lauriam may only be the beginning of some really incredible payoffs. And that is such a compelling reading that never came across my mind!! I did briefly mention Ven to contrast how he overcame his emptiness with new connections unlike Marluxia who used his, but this adds a whole new layer of meaning. In a sense, their journeys echo each other's at different points, both committing actions of envy that stemmed from the void in their lives that they'd eventually regret (though we haven't seen Lauriam's regret yet, I'm sure he will/does feel it). Thank you for sharing such a cool observation!

[@loverofstars5676]

something about marluxia has always made me really like him and if it wasnt for axel he wouldve been my favorite org member

[@platypus0123]

Axel was the example what could have happen.poor marluxia.i feel we will see more of marluxia in kingdom hearts 4 with he's sis too

[@wafagdplqs4421]

​@@platypus0123it's quite likely imo considering everything we know of this new saga

[@JapanFreak2595]

It’s baffling how most don’t realize or even internalize how integral Namine is to the makeup of the series after KH1. It’s to the point where I’m convinced the she’s Nomura’s self-insert character, down to the detail that she’s also a soft spoken artist with incredible power. That aside, great video my dude!

[@gearvanguard]

Namine is awesome, I couldn't agree more with what you said. She's currently my top 2 character in the series in fact! And thank you for the kind words

[@taminostam9912]

@@gearvanguardshe's best girl number 3 in my opinion, cuz Xion had the ability to defend herself and feelings maybe despite the fact she was purposed to be a weapon and Aqua literally went through hell and back and then back to hell when she didn't really need to. Naminé is important to the series from chain of memories onward, but her role returns to the more mediocre character development because of stuff other characters aside from Kairi have done

[@gearvanguard]

Fair enough, I respect the sound reasoning! Personally, I did enjoy her more quiet understated return after she had done so much between CoM and KH3, I think it really helped Replica Riku shine and helped her realise how important she was regardless of it she could fight or not. After questioning and loathing her powers and existence for so long, seeing everyone welcome her with open arms and being shown how important she was, was very meaningful to me. Obviously, what hits and doesn't is all personal, and I'm excited to replay later games to better understand the rest of the cast, which will undoubtedly give me a new level of appreciation for those you mentioned and beyond.

[@taminostam9912]

@@gearvanguardif you do'nt find the time to play those games sometimes, might i recommend Everglow's timeline videos?

[@gearvanguard]

@@taminostam9912 They are great! I actually credited them at the end of this video, super helpful!

[@hopecat7466]

I can't believe someone finally found a way to make the plot of Re:Coded Relevant. Bravo, good sir.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! I'm happy you liked that part of the video, I was really proud of it! :)

[@J4Blue]

As much as I appreciate how many KH theory videos there are on KZbin, I always wanted somebody to make more video essays on the characters and themes at play. Stumbling across your KH videos on Connections, Roxas and this are EXACTLY what i've been wanting more of. Keep up the good work because it makes my day!

[@gearvanguard]

Wow, thank you! It means so much that you checked out all three of my kingdom hearts videos and enjoyed them. Your comment made my day! Thank you again

[@NoxiousAcid]

was actually sobbing for 20 minutes straight. this hit haaaaaaard. I am always blown away by how much insight and beauty there is to be found in the dialogue and themes from the "classic" kh titles with the added context of the titles that came after. like either nomura is the master of writing satisfyingly well-incorperated retcons or the master of preplanning his story and either way it's just like too satisfying to handle watching this video made me feel like i felt when i first rewatched the BBS cutscenes after initially learning the big kh3 luxu reveal. when he is in the keyblade graveyard and tells aqua: "you two think you have some grand role to play. As if! You're only here so when i finish you off Terra will succumb to the darkness." highlighting that he sees the bigger picture of MoM's grand plan and thus to him this is not the big grand conflict it is to xehanort and the wayfinder trio but merely a stepping stone. was literally speechless when that line popped up and mass sent out screenshots to all the KH fans i know; did the same multiple times for this video too lol ty for this insight i am eternally grateful i stumbled upon this video in my recommendations my goodness, absolutely immaculate, fantastic work

[@NoxiousAcid]

oh dear "[Namine had been] gladly accepting her painful fate if it allowed others to be happy ... While Namine can understand the connections of those she touched so well, she never realized how much she had grown to be an important part of those connections" 😭 welp, i am sobbing again; faaaaar too real.

[@gearvanguard]

It means the world that you could connect with the story on a deeper level through my video, so much so that it got such an emotional reaction out of you and that you shared some moments with others! The connections made in the video are things I was also surprised by when writing it, so it was so satisfying to be able to share it; especially knowing how dismissive people are of Nomura's writing I've seen on the internet. As someone whose goal is just to help one person enjoy/appreciate a story I adore just a little bit more in every video, there's no greater pleasure than seeing a comment like yours. Thank you so much.

[@yasq1482]

Aqua and Terra indeed didn't have any grand role to play at that point in time, as Xenahort's plan at that time was using Ventus's pure light heart and Vanitas's pure darkness to forge a X-Blade, not the the later plan to use 13 darkness and 7 light to summon KH. So what Luxu said was indeed correct he was just there to witness Xenahort's possession of Terra.

[@NoxiousAcid]

@@yasq1482 oh yes that is a marvelous observation! very obvious too, now that it’s been pointed out to me. thank you for the correction (: context: the scene itself shows Braig talking *_to_* Aqua and Ventus *_about_* Aqua and Terra, and I had errantly assumed by "you two" he had to have been referring to the two present, Aqua and Ventus. in reality (duh) he was just continuing the whole ongoing Terra/Aqua conversation, and as you said, the two of them indeed did not have any role to play in ongoing plan to summon kingdom hearts. And Braig is indeed 'only' there to make sure Terra falls to darkness because although it's not the 'grand' plan in question, preparing Terra as a young and capable just-incase-vessel is certainly on their collective to-do list. That makes.....infinitely more sense than what i had been imagining to myself lol. wasnt too far off in the grand scheme of things, just had to make a lot of weird adjustments for the details to fit. Still, idk how i missed that That being said while i feel as confident now as one can be that you are exactly correct on the intended reading of the line ( _especially_ at the time of release), i still think the added post-bbs context provides a particular color to the scene in a very satisfying and characteristically Nomura way! which was moreso the point i was trying to get at initially anyway going to lump in some miscellaneous thoughts on the subject. not nearly as relevant to the reply just in the mood gush some more while it is on the brain maybe spoilers for all KH games up to and including Missing Link prerelease material idk Braig was definitely speaking truthfully to his motivations as Braig the henchman, but now it almost feels as if he was simultaneously coldly and candidly laying out his plans as _Luxu_ , too. I think there are a myriad of subtly different options there for precisely what that double meaning would be, which is exactly why it is so cool to me! regardless of which though, there is always the hurdle that this implies that Luxu would have to have somehow been expecting M.X. to fail in this particular attempt to summon kingdom hearts. And As for how exactly Luxu could’ve been privileged to that information is anyone’s guess (I don't believe it is confirmed that Luxu has seen ANY of the book of prophecies beyond the lost page, after all), buuut i don’t think it has to be anything all that complicated, or even directly explained. something even as simple as him suspecting that the rushed and partial procedure MX pursues out of desperation from old age would prove insufficient to fully summon KH; Luxu does have firsthand instruction from MoM as well as direct experience as a master during the og keyblade war, after all. I also think many characters of that tier generally know more than they let on, and there are plenty of world events in the timeline that could signal to an educated enough observer that this is not “the end” so-to-speak. I mean all it would take is Xehanort intentionally or unintentionally revealing his visit from the cloaked figure to one of Luxu’s vessels for him to maaaybe be able to make a decently educated guess that TerraXehanort is necessary for that to happen. For all we know, since Xehanort is a keyblade master who hyperfocused on the keyblade war (and even seemingly knows at least a little about REALLY wonky stuff like unreality), MX himself could have been the one coming to similar conclusions at the time. Maybe more generally though, Luxu’s very role, both thematically and literally in the story, is as an observer on the timeline so i would imagine he would have more hints about the future than _anyone_ in kh who hasn’t read the book of prophecies itself. (also I'm not at all positing the one line as evidence for any of those events or anything like that, just that they would all be simple and clean in-universe explanations a writing team could silently cite to themselves as an excuse when trying to iron out continuity, thematic tie ins, double meaning, etc in the process of planning a story/writing a retcon. I highly doubt anything close to this insignificant will ever be touched on directly in game, though i suppose it has _potential_ to be accidentally "confirmed" in the weird event KHML reveals luxu knew of post bbs events as part of some other unrelated story reveal. Guess ya never know. hi anyone who made it all the way to the end sry i talk so much

[@katharsis101-]

This is insane. The way you intertwine the different narratives and character arcs and connect them with KH's themes and story... Commendable work. You made me appreciate CoM much more.

[@gearvanguard]

Nothing makes me more pleased than to hear you could find a deeper appreciation for CoM! Thank you for the kind words

[@Star-vw2qf]

Namine is so important to the kingdom hearts story

[@alexmetaverse]

man suddenly came back after 2 years and dropped yet another banger

[@gearvanguard]

Thanks haha

[@CrystallizedCoyote]

Nice analysis on Namine and Marluxia! Nice to see that you made another analysis video! I chose to rewatch your previous ones after realizing which channel this was in my recommended, haha. I actually watched this video two times. Hope you will continue doing this!

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you!! I appreciate the support so much; your last comment was among those that really helped motivate me to get back on my feet. Working on something unrelated to KH right now but I'm excited to work on it after. Thank you again, it means a lot.

[@CrystallizedCoyote]

@@gearvanguard You're welcome!

[@jacobarnell1634]

Wow, this is one of the best KH video essays I've ever watched! You elegantly put into words many of less obvious messages and journeys in the series. No pressure of course, but I hope you will keep this up :) The struggle to push away loneliness and emptiness is all too relatable, and attempting to force connections (with either real or fictional people) only drives you lower, hurting both yourself and those around you. These stories offer hope by showing how humility, acceptance, accountability, and forgiveness of others as well as yourself can lead to healing, even though it can take time.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you, your words are immensely uplifting and I am grateful for the support. I have a lot of self doubt in my videos when I first release them so seeing comments like these really helps me keep going. Lovely words that perfectly captures the core ideas discussed, wonderfully put. Thank you again for the delightful comment.

[@KokoMelonzzzz]

naminé really does deserve more credit since she affected a lot of the characters

[@remberedink]

You've managed to put into words all my love for CoM and Marluxia, so thank you Thank you!

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm very glad I could show some love to CoM and the characters :)

[@dawnjeff49]

This was such a great video! It's fascinating how much Naminé has affected so many characters in this series, she really deserves more credit.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you so much! I'm glad I could shine some light on Naminé's character for not just myself when making this video but for others too, she's become my personal fav outside of Sora in fact!

[@MyJellyCup]

You're actually producing quality levels that will normally take bigger teams to produce 🤜

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you so much, that makes me very happy to hear after working on this for so long

[@SpeedBreak22]

Just found this video! Before watching, I didn't really think anything of Marluxia or Namine, but now I really really like them as characters. Thanks for breaking it down so well!!!

[@gearvanguard]

@@SpeedBreak22 thank you!! There's nothing more rewarding than hearing this, I really appreciate it :))

[@mylesmixon5078]

Excellent analysis. Makes me see that I really under appreciated chain of memories.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you, glad you found something out of my video! :)

[@GemaCoven]

Thanks for giving your perspective on Namine and Marluxia ^^ You put things through a certain lens that were new and also true. Your voice also sounded earnest throughout the whole video, which made it more personal and better.

[@gearvanguard]

I'm really happy to hear this

[@GemaCoven]

@@gearvanguard Only have good things to say about your method of narration :) plus, your arguments have well put together "trains of thought process"!

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you again, it means the world

[@SuccuLeaf_VT]

Thank you for this explanation and deep dive into Marluxia and Namine

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you for watching!! :D

[@rainbowditto9033]

Brilliant essay! Id like to think that if marluxia had retained his memories from KHUX, he would have helped Namine more directly, since she resembles strelitzia personality wise. I cant wait to see what they do with lauriam in the next game, and i hope that we get to see him and namine reconcile in some way.

[@gearvanguard]

Thanks! Definitely agree, his personality in UX is quite distinctly different in general too to where I don't think he'd do smth as malicious. I hope they get a good moment together, or it could be a slow burn since it was such a negative experience for Namine. Either way, I hope something happens!

[@raunjisto2925]

Loved this video. Never realized how much character development these two went through

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! Grateful to hear you enjoyed it :)

[@xrubyxlightx]

Im glad i came across this video on tumblr. Like many, i never put a lot of thought into marluxia and his similarities to others. At the of the video, i came out with a greater appreciation for him, namine, and CoM. Definitely rewatching this later Edit: Oh i also love the composition of the thumbnail. Lauriam with strel, ventus, and larxene in the bkg, and namine with sora and riku. Aahh i want to see more of them in the next saga :D

[@gearvanguard]

I'm glad you could find something out of my video, no better feeling than sharing appreciation with others in a story I love. Also grateful for the kind words on the thumbnail; you're the first to ever do so haha. Love the card aesthetic from the game, spent a good while on it and really liked how it turned out. Fingers crossed on seeing more of these characters, would be sooo interesting to see them interact now. Thank you so much again for your comment, really brightened up my day :)

[@maxhall4766]

This is one of the most beautiful retrospectives I’ve ever heard

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you, this means a lot :)

[@baylaust]

It's a shame so many people sleep on CoM, because it does WONDERS for all of the characters in it. ESPECIALLY Namine, who became one of my favourites in the series after that game.

[@nabilboutaoui7683]

i cant describe how much i enjoyed watching this! gave me chills numerous times (kh's strenght) hoping u'll upload more & more videos

[@gearvanguard]

I'm glad you liked it and thank you!! :)

[@peachnkey]

You get it... you get it!!! Love these takes, you've hit the nail on the head!

[@gearvanguard]

You are too kind haha thank you :)

[@televisionhero475]

Just a random thought but what if the true reason Namine doesn’t look like Kairi much in the same way with Roxas for Sora and Namine’s appearance could be based on Ava

[@gearvanguard]

That would be pretty crazy and really interesting

[@hermionegranger178]

I always pictured namine and ava to be related somehow. Like not siblings, but have some kind of connection. I could be wrong but namine gives me ava vibes and Vice versa. Ever since ava was introduced to us.

[@subb9011]

Namine is so tragic and amazing, im glad she got her second chance at the end of kh3 despite her insistence in the final world that nobody would truly miss her

[@gearvanguard]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

Thank you for giving attention to Namine and Marluxia, two of my favorite characters since I originally played COM on GBA a long time ago. I’m so glad that they will continue to be relevant going forward in the series. I think Namine in particular is a crucial character with many mysteries yet to unravel. I relate to her loneliness and desire for connection a lot, and I think it makes her a really interesting and realistic even if subtle character.

[@gearvanguard]

Glad you could resonate with the video! She's become a personal favorite of mine for the same reasons.

[@thatdangerguy5542]

Fantastic analysis! Marluxia was always one of my favourites in the series so it was really fun seeing his motivations put into perspective and really understanding what made him such a great antagonist. Honestly, thanks for these videos they are some of the best kh content out there, and don't worry about pushing out content, take as much time as you need.

[@gearvanguard]

I appreciate the sentiment very much. While he had actually very few scenes in KH3, it kinda carried almost half of this video's thoughts alone. Loved him in CoM, and even more for what they did beyond. Once again, thank you for kind words, I'm grateful you checked out all my KH vids and how understanding you are

[@RPRJack21]

I love Namine so much 😭 she deserves more

[@iantwogood1142]

Aaaand subscribed. You're making some killer stuff here and I can't wait for whatever is next.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! Grateful for your support :D

[@jaydeleon5788]

I’ve been watching your video about roxas non stop and I’m so happy that you uploaded again 😭😭😭

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! Means a lot that you liked it enough to rewatch :)

[@skrroksa2776]

Thank you for this video! I generally don't like analysis/vidéo essay about Kingdom Hearts serie, but yours are really good, interesting and with a lot of depth ! So I encourage you to continue like this, you did a great job ;)

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you, it means a lot! I'm glad you can enjoy the video, I'll keep trying my best :)

[@snowway0ut552]

I just found this video and your analysis on Roxas tonight and man, this is some really amazing content! I love how in depth you go into the characters beyond what is displayed in face value. You're an amazing writer and your content is outstanding! Take as much time as you need king, your videos are dope!

[@gearvanguard]

As someone who spends the majority of my video creation on the script, this makes me extremely happy to hear! Thank you so much for the wonderful words

[@AbsoluteFruit]

Honestly there’s so much happening in kingdom hearts that it’s often difficult to understand the emotionality behind the characters, at least for me. I think it’s because it’s always felt very fairy tale like and because I assume the language barrier/translation misses some nuances, but I appreciate when other fans can make videos like this talking about the clear motivations of characters and how they interact. It’s a lot of lore to keep track of in the first place, and then to keep track of every characters feelings about the events transpiring is just a whole other level. I really appreciate this and I’m looking forward to watching your other videos and seeing what else you create!

[@gearvanguard]

I certainly can relate, I know with me personally KH3 didn't really hit despite following the series all my life, nor did the contents beyond; I accepted that maybe the series wasn't exactly for me anymore. It took both a few years away from the series, a new perspective of media in general and of course, re-experincing this series again for these videos that I found a new love for KH, and it's still changing. Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your story. I'm grateful that you were able to find something to appreciate in the story from my video. And thank you for the supportive sentiments :)

[@KaosFell]

Just wanna say I mainlined all these vids and they are fantastic. Keep up the good work.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! Means a lot that you enjoyed my other videos, appreciate the kind words too! :)

[@Joost8910]

Really nice analysis on their characterizations! I felt engaged throughout the whole thing

[@gearvanguard]

Tysm!! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@jesserey6966]

Dude this video is pretty crazy I just found your channel and I'm learning things that I didn't know before about the kh series absolute banger video

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you so much for the kind words :) happy to hear that!

[@jesserey6966]

Hell yeah bro keep up the good work ​@@gearvanguard

[@ajrobtown]

Thank you for making this - it's a beautiful video that shows genuine connection and insight. I'm really glad you made this video and hope your inner critic can take it easier on your creative self. Take the time you need - no pressure here, just gratitude that you were able to share this with us.

[@gearvanguard]

This genuinely means the world, thank you so much for your considerate words, I'm very grateful. I will remember to take it to heart.

[@blueshellincident]

This was GOOD STUFF. Need more!

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! More will come (even if not quickly) I promise!

[@jade_webber]

I am SO Happy i have found your channel. I love theses types of videos where people make in-depth analysis of characters and overall Story, but i struggle to find ones that actually grab my interest, but your videos have been one of the best ones i have ever seen. It's clear you put a lot of love and care in them, you explain in a detailed yet easy to understand way, the editing is top-notch and your voice is also pretty nice to hear! I can't wait to see more content from you. You truly deserve more recognition in this plataform. Keep up the extraordinary work!!!

[@gearvanguard]

This genuinely means the world to me, I'm grateful that you enjoyed the video; I've always been a big fan of analytical content and wanted to see more for KH so here we are now haha. Everything you mentioned was something I paid particular attention to this time as my comprehensibility in both writing and editing, and my enunciation struggles a lot, things I have been criticized for in the past. Thank you so much for writing this, your words are incredibly motivating and I'm over the moon!

[@TheLanydx]

and you just gained a subscription.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you

[@runemaster8656]

This such a phenomenal video. Really well done!

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you!! Pleased you liked it :D

[@masterofmastersmaster2991]

Great video! I’ll be looking forward to the next one.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you :) Appreciate the sentiment very much!

[@blakelong7719]

Well put together man! Keep up the good work!! 10/10 will watch again! 😊

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you very much :)

[@luizfma3244]

your videos are ridiculously good

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you

[@codezalo5773]

Lovely video, thank you.

[@gearvanguard]

Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks :)

[@PivotDJ]

I swear the lore is so rich in this game I can come back years later and learn something new.

[@bbocel89]

Being a nobody is a blank canvas to build connections... Deep. Very good analyst overall.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! Glad you liked it :D

[@celineosthaus8032]

You should look up the jp version of Kh CoM. Especially in regards to the meteor shower promise and "aitsu".

[@franciscogersonabreusantos6583]

Muito obrigado pelo vídeo, espero que faça mais.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you! :)

[@Pugsr]

Great video, surprised this doesnt have more views or you have more subscribers. This is the type of effort and quality I'd expect of someone with hundreds of thousands of subs. Let me know if you want to collab or need help with anything sometime.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you so much for your supportive words and the kind gesture, it means a lot.

[@SuccubiPie]

wtf. This editing, this quality and only a few thousand views?! Algorithm please stop being terribad.

[@gearvanguard]

Thank you, appreciate the sentiment greatly haha

[@RandomGuy-ci9nt]

Can you do one about Sora? There are some out but not as High Quality

[@gearvanguard]

A Sora video is my end goal to reach with this video series (he is my favourite character in the series), it won't be anytime soon but I will get to it!

[@RandomGuy-ci9nt]

@@gearvanguard ahhhh ok

[@Who_Tye709]

I live for videos like this. Been shipping Riku and Naminé since com first came out.

[@gearvanguard]

Happy you enjoyed the video! Riku and Namine are great

[@JabamiLain]

I did not know she was hated. This is a surprise for me. But I wonder if some part of me was infected by such conception, because in fanfic scenarios, I ALWAYS try to imagine her in a darker stage light. 🤔🤔🤔 Nah ! I do it because I believe in earning your freedom. And if being a Witch makes her different from Kairi, then that means she's doing more of her own thing.

[@judahosborne8868]

This makes me want to really try to understand KH3 underneath all the filler and contrivance.

[@gearvanguard]

Same! Curious to see how different my thoughts are now on kh3 on a revisit given how much they have already changed after revisiting earlier games

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

Organization XIII vs. Baroque Works

[@platypus0123]

I feel namine will have another important role again in kdh4 to resorting marluxia memories 😮

[@gearvanguard]

Would be so cool to see these two interact with each other in the future especially given their history!

[@platypus0123]

@AfterHoursGear yea he's not bad just traumatized.then maybe we can learn more of namine back story cuz I feel she knows more then organized 13.she might be older then ven as far back.

[@KeithBates-xl8cl]

❤

[@niklasw.1297]

15:10 💀

[@JabamiLain]

I bet if she was offered friendship with Roxas and Xion by using her powers to make them real, she'd try to feel less guilty about her mission, since technically, she'd be told she'd be helping people. Marluxia miscalculated. Also, I hate he's being used as a good guy now. I hate how most Nobodies are good guys now just because they got their hearts back (dark empathy exists people, having emotions doesn't automatically mean the person will feel regret). Vexen I can accept. He created Xion and programmed her to be real, not to mention he seems to be the closest to Ienzo (and his Zexion persona seemed mostly neutral, and his manipulations were based on what he believed Riku was, not what he wanted him to be, so I can accept him too). I can also accept Axel. But Larxene, Marluxia... It makes no sense to me.

[@alwaysdtf2197]

holy crap, I never even really considered half of this. I always saw namine and marluxia as having so little character, this really does open my eyes

[@gearvanguard]

Happy to have shared a new perspective with you :)