Nano expansion is now official

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@macdrum7663
@macdrum7663 3 жыл бұрын
I signed up immediately! I soooo hope I win the contest.
@123stealthbomber
@123stealthbomber 3 жыл бұрын
I think this nano expansion is great. Really allows almost a parity between the axis and allies in the atlantic and pacific. The allies now really have to fear subs being able to damage direct stress to them. This will open up a ton of new strategies for both sides on how counter one another. One thing I want to note is that while this is really made to help the axis, the allies actually might have an incentive to buy subs themselves. A particular instance would be the convoys off the coast of france in A-15. It might only be 2 resources to Germany but dealing 12 casualties per turn would be a strain on germany. The allies wouldnt even need to invade mainland Europe or japan when they can just keep convoying the hell out of them. That's enough to just stress them out of the game. Again those are just initial thoughts of how to use them but I can see subs being a much larger asset in this game.
@alphaomegacomics3550
@alphaomegacomics3550 3 жыл бұрын
Read the rules here: www.nightingale-games.com/rules The convoy raid hits generate casualty stress regardless of what type of unit made the hit. It doesn’t apply to only subs, as this video stated.
@thewarroom6118
@thewarroom6118 3 жыл бұрын
Operation Drumbeat on USA! Nice!
@CBs_Bill_from_Montana
@CBs_Bill_from_Montana 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think this will help the Axis more than the Allie’s?
@warroompainstate2661
@warroompainstate2661 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I sure do.
@alphaomegacomics3550
@alphaomegacomics3550 3 жыл бұрын
It will help whomever has more naval and air units in position to do coastal and/or trans-ocean convoy raids. Not a clear cut advantage to either in my opinion.
@slo6026
@slo6026 3 жыл бұрын
also when you moved the 5th Germany Navy to A18 you said you can hit all three for the rest of the game. This is not true. A command can only do one convoy attack and those in A18 are not connected...so Germany would have to use 3 orders to attack all of those convoys in A18...I believe.
@warroompainstate2661
@warroompainstate2661 3 жыл бұрын
If you move the 5th to a18 with three subs you embattled A18. The British have 3 convoy clusters in A18. If the allies do not send in ships or planes to stop you you get to attack 1 2or all 3 of the clusters. You get to choose, all 3 subs on one cluster or one sub on each cluster or 2 on one cluster and 1 on a another. Once you command is in A18 you do not need to write orders for them to attack the clusters because you embattle the sea zone. Attacking is free, no orders required.
@slo6026
@slo6026 3 жыл бұрын
@@warroompainstate2661 great point, you do not write orders to attack convoys....very true! I am still confused about how many you can attack however. The rules say a command may only attack 1 convoy cluster in its region. So my interpretation of that means you would need to split up those subs to 3 different commands each attacking a different cluster. It's why some areas like P0 is so important, it has 6 convoys in 1 cluster.
@warroompainstate2661
@warroompainstate2661 3 жыл бұрын
@@slo6026 you are correct, you would need to reorganize into 3 commands to be able to attack all 3 clusters with one sub each. So the limitation would then be how many free naval commands do you still have in your force pool.
@alphaomegacomics3550
@alphaomegacomics3550 3 жыл бұрын
Splitting commands for units to want to park is not a problem. You never need write a single order for them, and they fire on every convoy cluster to maximize casualties. Remember, it’s not just subs inflicting stress through convoys. All naval and air units that successfully hit in a convoy raid (coastal or trans-ocean), every resource lost is 6 points of casualties for the Morale/Stress Board. Remember, the territories tied to the convoy cannot lose more resources of a type than they earn in a turn for that type of resource.
@alphaomegacomics3550
@alphaomegacomics3550 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed two mistakes. First one isn’t a biggie, at 12:32 you claimed that the Axis had 7 ships and the Allies had 7, the count is actually 8 ships each. The second mistake is an oversight on the nano expansion rules. Around the 3 minute mark, and again at 10:52, you claim that this expansion is a submarine expansion, and that only submarines can inflict stress casualties during convoy raids. This is incorrect, as ANY successful hit during a convoy raid will inflict stress casualties. I will grant you that this (along with the dive rule errata) greatly improves the utility of subs, but in actuality, all naval and air units have received a boost to their usefulness. Therefore, the Axis can purchase any combination of naval and air units and put the same kind of pressure on the US and UK that you mentioned towards the end of your video.
@slo6026
@slo6026 3 жыл бұрын
you are making it sound like only a sub can do a convoy attack....
@warroompainstate2661
@warroompainstate2661 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that is because when we discuss subs we are basically talking about Germany. Any country and any naval/air unit can hit a convoy cluster. In the end , imho, this nano expansion was totally focused on German subs.
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