Nas' Original Ether Verses Would've DESTROYED JAY-Z [Full Breakdown]

[@HipHopUniverse]

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[@obinator9065]

The released version already killed him😂

[@edgarvales1787]

What happen to your worst rapper videos????

[@freshone274]

Niggas talking about some shit nobody ever heard. Which obviously means it's irrelevant

[@brianedwards789]

Ether is not better than takeover

[@kgoldwire9706]

@@brianedwards789 yes it is

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

The fact that Ether, which is already a savage beatdown, was watered down speaks MILES about Nas' full potential.

[@mrantieverything2377]

Frfr

[@TekkLuthor]

You haven't seen my final form

[@BallerBrownsWorldMusic1]

Potential… that gift is proven!!

[@mrantieverything2377]

@@ZanyZain_ right!

[@realtv46]

It’s like stopping a sayain from becoming SUPER🤔🤷🏾

[@loyallfc7239]

The fact Ether dropped on Hov's birthday (December 4th) makes it even more ruthless from Nas, he was ice cold.

[@dmax7255]

Nas is ice cold :damm right

[@ericdavis1815]

It came out in November

[@loyallfc7239]

@@ericdavis1815 Ether released on December 4th didn't it? I think the Stillmatic freestyle released in November.

[@3spy1rex3]

No…..wanna hear ice cold…. I heard Pimp C was apparently still was holding copies of and old sex sex tape he had with Beyoncé…. That Jay Paid a ransom to get out of the world and destroyed…. Pimp C died on December 4th 👀👀👀

[@grandmasterciphersupreme7751]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@danieldevito6380]

The fact that we now use the term "Ethered" ,when someone gets destroyed, says enough

[@NYCHeavyHitz212]

It has nothing to do with how good the song is. “Ethered” is just much easier to say than “Takeovered” or “Hit em Upped”.

[@guyprieto1593]

@@NYCHeavyHitz212 bro. ✋️ you drunk.

[@georgeprecious1036]

@@NYCHeavyHitz212 that you jay?

[@NuclearSad]

It is also because Ether is what was used during surgery back in the day to put someone to sleep. This is why Nas used Ether as the name for the song. So it's partly because the song was so good but it's also partly because with a super savage diss you're saying "Damn dog they Ether'd that boy, put that boy to sleep/killed that boy."

[@MrILES-gu3xb]

@@NYCHeavyHitz212 stoopid comparison. It’s doesn’t even sound right 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@BKJallah]

100 years from now, Nas will still be THE WINNER!

[@ShaneGuyton-mj1mv]

Well there's no more beef so...

[@avengingsylph]

@@ShaneGuyton-mj1mv We still listen to both songs. Mr Carter got ethered.

[@ggorgeous8729]

​@@avengingsylph...Becoming a Billionaire afta it,im sure he doest care about it at all.

[@JoeTroyy]

Jays a billionaire nuff said and a better rapper. I like naz tho.. that death row east was hard af

[@JoeTroyy]

Nas ****

[@rant21]

You have to have been old enough at the time when Ether dropped to fully appreciate how hard that shit really was. Nas was in a short slump musically & Jay was on fire. I remember when Jay dropped takeover & thinking damn it’s bout to be over for Nas. Then Ether dropped & everyone, even the biggest JayZ fans couldn’t deny how crazy & hard that shit was.

[@TamaraGarrettAlpha]

Exactly 💯 💯 💯

[@tylerhingleton8493]

Stillmatic was actually a dope album by him though

[@moeeshangpate6320]

YEEEEPP AND THE FACT THAT HE USED 2PAC'S VOICE WAS THE DAGGER!!!!

[@CandiCaneMagic]

Yup 👍🏾

[@karld884]

You have to be old enough to remember when both shit their jeans, on separate nights, @ Brick City Club in Newark NJ in 96. This crap beef crap turned into professional wrestling. Manufactured drama which ends up real, with the right "marketing".

[@Kohbruh]

Nas got us talking about him after 30 summers ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@diegodonjuan]

355 likes? Proof of how you don't have to be correct to be popular. Nas, nor JZ had an album out in 1992. Ether is barely 23 years old.

[@Kohbruh]

@@diegodonjuan bruh, 1994 to 2024 is how many years? I rounded up if you needed context.

[@helenaj9436]

​@@KohbruhIt dropped Dec 4 2001.

[@Kohbruh]

@@helenaj9436 what dropped? Nas first album had us buzzing. I was outside. I'm not talking about ether, I'm talking about his career.

[@PeterMason-oj2ek]

Nasty Nas started on live at the bar b cue. Jay z little jaz o lol.originators,both 90

[@kindell1]

I always felt like Nas was holding back on the final version. Anyone who knows the caliber of his lyricism, mostly from album cuts to unreleased material, knows how sharp and witty he is. Jay-Z just doesn't have the vocabulary to stand against Nas lyrically. The final version of Ether actually shows how vicious Nas is because he actually wasn't even trying, and he STILL bodied Jay

[@floorboss]

Well _Ether_ from the album isn't watered down, by comparison too these weak lost verses. Sounds like the execs made A good Call- by saying _"Re-do it."_

[@roykin0929]

@@floorboss well, who knows how legit the leaked verses are. Maybe it's the "shit" version mentioned towards the end of the video, we just don't know.

[@floorboss]

@@roykin0929 Didn't his producer say it was terrible. And _"After I heard the org., I said oh, no Nas, We got work to do."_ > Either way Jay's first verse on the secondary beef track can't be beat can it.... Where Jay first calls out Harlem (Dipset, Cam & Nas' big body guard) _"Nigga's in Pink Suits, trying to be cute."_ Than Jay cuts Nas in half w/ _"If it was on like that, I'd come through Queens, w/ Queens Niggas, ya know how I do,,, I got more Shooters in Quenns Bridge than you."_ Than Jay gets [midevil on that ass] to end it- _"Than we'll tie you up on the Coliseum roof & open beer bottles off the boy's chipped toothe! Look here homie."_ ARGUABLY JAY'S BEST VERSE EVER. & It came out when he needed it most.

[@roykin0929]

@@floorboss my comment wasn't even about that, why you defending takeover like it's better lol

[@floorboss]

@@roykin0929 I Never mentioned "Takeover" ?? Jay's _'Supa Ugly'_ one-shot track is my PoV, the First verse on that song- buried Nas (like I said in that comment). That verse isnt on _The Takeover._ But When Nas needed A _Liquid Sword,_ He couldn't even find water to put out that _Super Ugly_ fire.

[@Rizzlyricist]

Once, I tried to use "NAS" as my password, but it said: "Too Strong"

[@9etherking707]

"I dropped the Ether Napalm Bomb...and had their whole camp running like Roaches" ~ Nas 🤣🤣🤣

[@jamaaldavis7907]

😂😂😂

[@artheals8869]

Honestly, grateful for this beef, because it put a battery in Nas’s back and put him back on track.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Pretty sure Jay-Z was throwing Nas a bojr by revitalizing his career. Nas had been noticeably declining. Jay-Z and Rocafella beef put Nas back in shape.

[@minorsnow5306]

@bob Rush dude had two bad albums in a row!!..Real thin

[@Matt.Savage]

@@minorsnow5306 lol what albums of Nas do you actually think are bad? I'll wait...

[@minorsnow5306]

@@Matt.Savage nastradomus n' I am

[@Matt.Savage]

@@minorsnow5306 I can agree with Nastradomus, but ...I Am? That's my 3rd favorite Nas album, I think you need to have another listen and stop sleeping.

[@richspizzaparty]

Nas bodied Jay and made one of the classic diss tracks of all time. Not bad for a watered down version.

[@OldSoulNewLife]

Nas wanted to put that first version of ether out. But the labels/industry didn’t let it happen. Jayz was/is their poster child. It’s a joke.

[@thetruthisonlyperspective4872]

Just like Jay Z

[@seekingtruthonly.4299]

Yet he never leaked it? Yeah ok.

[@cpaganjr123]

@@seekingtruthonly.4299 not sure if you know but it was so disrespectful that the labels were scared. You must do what the label tells you.

[@seekingtruthonly.4299]

@@cpaganjr123 Really? Explain leaked records then. If people did what labels say, there wouldn't be any leaked songs.

[@OldSoulNewLife]

@@seekingtruthonly.4299 first off 9/10 times , leaked songs are by a hacker or someone who got the song somehow . It’s not by the artist

[@asylum1166]

Nas made the single most important move in his career and in rap history in redoing ether

[@bennyblanc100]

One of the lines was.. “ you claim you a gangsta “ “ but you was begging for pardon” “the night the terror squad flipped on your squadron” “ you tried to front on their checks” “ till Pun put a gun to your chest” rest in peace Big Pun!

[@yes.ma_am]

That was fire

[@rant21]

I always hated the fact that NOBODY had ever questioned Jay about that situation. Too many people including people in Jays camp have acknowledged that something did happen between him Pun & Joe. Interviewers always kissed Jays ass & pun dying probably had something to do with it never being brought up. Fast forward to 2022 nobody’s gonna ask him about that except maybe Nore if we ever get a Jay Z drink champs episode. Doubt Jay will ever fully get into what happened

[@yes.ma_am]

@@rant21 pun died from a heart attack because of his weight. He was about 5'4 in height and weights over 500 pounds, damn near 600

[@rant21]

@@yes.ma_am yea I know bruh lol I’m saying because he died not too long after the incident, nobody brought the incident up. Had he stayed alive longer im sure some interviewer would have brought it up. Pun was still throwing jabs at Jay right before he died.

[@yes.ma_am]

@@rant21 true, if Pun took care of himself to live longer, I wonder if Jay would still be as big as he is today

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

I'm all on nas side he just the better MC

[@MS-1]

Well yeah and, so was Big L who bodied that freestyle session verse that ya had to fast forward to get to past Z`s verse lol.

[@thapelokgomela6684]

💪💪

[@timharris7536]

No hes not

[@Parialated]

@@timharris7536 he is tho

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

@@timharris7536 he is

[@Usernotknown21]

I already knew Jay was way over his head dissing Nas. Jay let the money get to his head

[@trevorjames4619]

The fact Nas had jay on the radio crying let’s you know the impact this had on him

[@blueray7176]

Yes and Jay Z was Nas boss at Def Jam, who the real winner here 😅

[@lonniewhite4262]

@@blueray7176 He wasn't his boss. He asked Nas to come over there. Nas didn't need that job. Lol

[@blueray7176]

@@lonniewhite4262 what are you on about, Jay Z was president of Def Jam and Nas was an artist on the label.

[@TamaraGarrettAlpha]

@@blueray7176 Craziest move by Nas. Sagittarius ♐️ rarely forget an insult.💯

[@jasonelbowran4l]

@@TamaraGarrettAlpha Nas is a Virgo. Lol

[@quezdonivey5518]

So what happened was Jay Z was obsessed with Nas and how he got it out the mud so he wanted to replicate everything Nas was and do it better and Nas wasn’t feeling him so now he’s became his number one enemy and Jay Z got with his baby mama for a while so he could get some dirt on Nas and tell Nas he’s the best and he’s a real G and got him back. So Jay Z is a pretty messed up human being, all of this because Nas wasn’t rocking with him from the beginning. Very interesting when you think about it, it seems that Jay Z‘s plan was always to become the greatest rapper from New York and tried to do it biting off someone’s style. Jay Z used to rap different from what got him big… Too bad we all know he’s not the greatest.

[@lethalassassin1754]

You left out some of the story lol. He came up as Jazzy under the wing of Jaz-O. He learned his style and took it as his own, bit Biggie, used Nas' samples, etc. He tried so hard to get Big L signed to him so he wouldn't have to compete with him, just listen to their freestyle together. He did nothing but push Hip Hop in the direction of money and women, drugs, made a bunch of club hits to make his fortune. He doesn't belong on anyone's top anything.

[@timharris7536]

you sound emotional & clueless lmao

[@Parialated]

@@timharris7536 that you Jay?

[@frankmumford5975]

Jay a sodomite.thats the Whole Industry..

[@philsuarez5482]

Lethal assassin is a 💯 right

[@lorenzojones6484]

It’s 2022 and still, I have not heard anything harder than Ether ☄️🔥🏆🤫

[@SHADOWSUPERIORENT]

You stopped listening to music?

[@VETERANMASTER]

Checkmate is up there but you might be right. The last great diss song.

[@Takkforkniven]

"Bakin Soda in Minnesota" Andre Nickatina

[@syanide27]

No Vaseline

[@TamaraGarrettAlpha]

Yep 💯💯💯

[@Bookofenoch352]

Real hip hop fans knows nas won that battle

[@tylerdurden2518]

By a mile

[@TrippYMVTT]

Sad thing is he lost the war, jay z always overshadows him every single time nas has something to show to the world.

[@Cartier_FRITZ]

@@TrippYMVTT really that shows how insecure jay z is for losing he always been the petty one in the beef

[@YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet]

@@TrippYMVTT he didn't. He still eats, his family is good and he carries his head high woth other ventures. Seems like a W to me. Not everyone walks to the same path and everyone's understanding of "winning" is different. As long as he is successful and can maintain his mental, the way he has been showing he can do.. he won.

[@Matt.Savage]

@@TrippYMVTT Lol he literally just dropped King's Disease III, and as of now I can very comfortably say: Nas's King's Disease Trilogy > Jay'Z's Blueprint Trilogy🤷‍♂️

[@JA-mj9re]

Nas already destroyed him. Just would have destoyed him more. Jay cant fuck with nas could never and will never be able to do. Nas is the greatest to ever touch the mic untouchable aint no debate. 🐐 Jay always wanted to be nas. Killed Jay z and his crew.

[@dpowell468]

Nope. Didn't Kill Jay z his career only got bigger while nas career peak numbers wise cause of the beef. Hov is the goat. Most accomplished rapper ever

[@JA-mj9re]

@@dpowell468 nas absolutely killed him and his crew by himself. Jay didnt get bigger ether is something he will never get rid of 🤣 and nas kept doing him straying true to himself and his craft nas is a real artist dosent care about sales. Jay on the other hand stabbing peoples back and betraying people to get where he is and thats someone you wanna support. Jay not even top 10 in new york so overrated going down with diddy aswell.

[@am2382]

Not many people mention the little subtle adlibs he done on Ether, they were both hilarious and brutal ☠️

[@some__random__guy]

True, which is very hard to do

[@karvi1616]

Yo yo for real them Adkins was killer.

[@joshuakithyoma9575]

It was a wack hit em up , 6 years later , wack beat , emotional and childish insults

[@Braylon1997]

@@joshuakithyoma9575 and I guess Jay talking about smashing Nas’ baby momma wasn’t childish

[@maxwellsamuel3255]

@@Braylon1997 I thought that was toward Al Iverson

[@ludokwang3751]

That's why Nas is better than Hov because Jay had more audience and more protected by labels but in the pure field of rapping Nas blasted him

[@marleymarsss]

All these years I never knew that was Pac saying fuck Jay Z at the beginning 🤯

[@Dredaysclose]

Pac has a song titled "Fuck Jay-z" 😆 good song used to Bump it back in the day its like a club song

[@incogneto2834]

​@@Dredaysclosethat voice over was on Bomb First I think...the first song on The 7th day theory

[@turtleanton6539]

​@@incogneto2834yes😊

[@kamwalker6296]

It's F**k friendz first verse last line

[@kamwalker6296]

Aint no n**ga like me f Jay-z

[@Braylon1997]

Ron Browz confirmed in an interview that Nas had to redo Ether because the first take was too disrespectful

[@freshone274]

It's a rap battle, there's no rules, no excuses. If the was better, it should have came out. Simple.

[@sinematic06]

@@freshone274 power of record labels and execs

[@mudfightmaster4275]

@@freshone274 u know damn well if its too disrespectful some ppl will pull out straps lol

[@duqsdiecasthobby9943]

@@mudfightmaster4275 facts, that's more scary 😬

[@kingdogethell6774]

@@freshone274 nas is smart he knows the ones who talk too much get shot.

[@franklynmaldonadogor2]

Jay was and is a fan of Nas.

[@Garanon5]

“You been on my d you love my style”

[@tamimh]

And pac and big

[@him3145]

I always sided with Nas! Jay always rapped like others he worked with.. never had his own style!! Also, Sway is the best person to have both sit down for an interview!! The fact that Jay sampled a Nas track and was sleeping with his baby moms behind his back just showed what kind of man he is!!

[@georgiasweetpotato7170]

💯💯 Hellz yeah Jay a f$%king 🐍 for that s💩h💩i💩t

[@peaceispriceless6051]

Facts💯

[@shaphellinnear2481]

Yep! He a man tha like seconds so he came in 2nd place in the battle.

[@marcussimmons6944]

100!!!

[@nunnallyai]

It does kind of solidify he wanted to be like him

[@TheRonfather]

Nas dropping Ether on Jay’s Birthday was super ill! It was like “Happy Birthday! Hold this…” 💣 LOL!

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

Imagine hitting the streets to celebrate your birthday and the first club you enter is playing your diss track.

[@moeeshangpate6320]

IN THE 90'S I WAS A DIE-HARD "2PAC FAN" 2 THE CORE AND I STILL AM, SO I NEVER REALLY GOT INTO NASTY NAS LIKE THAT, BUT I ALWAYS KNEW HE HAD FLOW THO. I JUST DIDN'T TRIP OFF THE FACT THAT HE WAS REALLY BUSTIN' LIKE THAT THO!! I DIDN'T REALLY START 2 APPRECIATE NAS LIKE THAT UNTIL HE MADE THE 1ST "KING'S DISEASE" ALBUM, WHICH FORCED ME 2 GO ALL THE WAY BACK AND LISTEN 2 HIS 1ST ALBUM. HIS 1ST ALBUM DRIVE ME PHUCKIN' KRAAAAAAÀZY, STRAIGHT UP!! THEN I LISTENED 2 ALL HIS OTHER ALBUMS AFTER THAT AND JUST GAVE IT UP 2 HIM... NOW I LITTERALLY SEE WHY PAC WAS SOOOOO MAD AT NAS 4 NOT BECOMING A PREACHER!! PAC SPOKE ABOUT NAS IN A INTERVIEW THAT HE DID BEFORE HE DIED, AND HE SPOKE ABOUT HOW NAS WAS SUPPOSED 2 BE AN ORDAINED PRIEST, INSTEAD OF A RAPPER AND I BELIEVE HIM. IT'S LIKE NAS BE SPEAKING IN BIBLICAL TONGUES, WHEN HE'S ON THE MIC 🎤, THAT'S HOW ILL HIS PENMANSHIP IS💯✊🏾

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

As a Nas fan this comment was crazy entertaining bro haha

[@fallback8314]

it took a rapper of jay-z stature to really survive ether. absolutely NO other rapper past or present great or not would've had a career in rap after that.

[@JamesLerem]

Drake survived Adidon

[@killagates186]

SHit hope drake survive not like us.

[@KingGogh]

​@@JamesLeremthat was no where near on the level of Ether

[@ddl3718]

I think it's crazy how even NAS'S LABEL was holding him back. I always thought ether was kinda soft, but damn my guy had to scrap the whole song cause it's too hard

[@jaycarlos3559]

Facts I wanna know if that beat ever got reused by someone else like dmx or lox..this way I could recreate the original in my head lolz

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

No. Nas was coming off a decline. He didn't need to be going at Jay-Z, rocafella, dmx, and lox. Nas can spit but no way he survives in New York in that scenario.

[@dappadondadda100]

​@@natsusatsujinki8342 ... you rap rookies don't know anything. NAS survives easily.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

@@dappadondadda100 blah blah. I write.

[@Grimm8874P]

😂 cause they knew the og version would have brought a war lol Nas smoked the whole label in one song that they will never ever ever ever ever come back from they can put out 100 diss tracks and they all be hot but ether always gonna eat all that shit up and the OG version would eat the souls this ether ate the flesh lol

[@LoneWolfHustle]

He should've released those original versions to the streets. I hate record labels always messing up what could've been.

[@donjonestv]

Steve Stoute made him do it over

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@donjonestvbcu he was Jayz stan low key

[@nolandefreitas325]

"In 88 you was getting chased through your buildings, calling my crib and I ain't even give you my number"

[@daveclark3829]

“Jay-Z was just a disgusting human being back then” Lmaooo

[@RVRGOL]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@doom7872]

Just wait until you find out what comes in future lil bro.

[@nelsonejenakevwe8316]

Jay is shameless by sleeping with nas baby mama. nas even told him you had my leftover hova

[@nelsonejenakevwe8316]

dude even lost it by going public with it

[@marvelous1204able]

The music industry keep saving Jay

[@dpowell468]

Jay z saved Jay z.

[@1deep499]

Stillmactic a classic 🔥🔥

[@jonesnasir625]

Bar for bar,lyrics for lyrics, storytelling,poetic nah jay still a student of Nas,non come close to Nas dead or alive he the greatest mc in history period!!

[@RemingtonSteel]

He changed after God Son to me.... I actually think 'It Was Written' is his best album overall and then 'I AM' is next IMO.... I understand he grew as a man but I feel like he fell back as an MC

[@CDJF1]

7 MC'S......

[@jeturtaylor9476]

😄😄😄😄

[@dominickrobinso6858]

Are you guys serious. The fact that we talking about a song that he made 20 years ago clearly Show's he's no wear near jay.

[@jonesnasir625]

@@dominickrobinso6858 go take yo med ASAP son,you sick af straight up,you just a kid who no nothing bout hip hop culture,jay z is a commercial rap artist not a real mc fasho 💯 Nas is the real one in this hip hop culture,he owns hip hop ,he influenced yo fav jay z,for the fact that yo fav jay z stole all biggie's style, moves, flow and rhymes makes him sucks,yea he all bout his 💰💰 bags,but in hip hop nah dude not even top five maybe top ten,yea commercially he on point.hip hop is deep than been all commercial straight up kid! They killed biggie so hov could have a career real talk 💯

[@nemesisencounter2060]

Pun wasn't a guy that Jay want a problem with

[@rant21]

Put it like this The Take Over was like Japan when they attacked Pearl Harbor & Ether was the U.S. response when they dropped that nuke on Japan and completely obliterated Hiroshima

[@Ryhillchibulls]

Damn

[@Menosfilms]

Good analogy… and basically Jay got lucky it was just Hiroshima and not the whole island of Japan.

[@crzmoe2]

Woah my G! Use another example damn!!!

[@realtalk6195]

Birdbrain analogy.

[@wavefacekillah]

Here after 21 savage diss nas calling him irrelevant dude is a joke

[@vicshephard9231]

He wore a shirt saying he was a hoe. No need to take him seriously.

[@quincydavis8771]

He better chill. That ether make ya soul burn slow 🤷😁💯

[@Camantics615]

@@quincydavis8771he needs to take it slow, before he messes around and bodies himself

[@ps2564]

21 took a hit for Nas, understand. All publicity is good publicity. He put his neck on the line for Nas hype.

[@quincydavis8771]

@@ps2564 If that's the case then it worked perfectly. You know how us old-heads fill about the legends!!👊💪💪

[@edwileo5660]

I would question some of your reading. The line about skeletons in closets read more like Nas putting his skeletons out for everyone to see, replacing them with weaponry. In those released verses he speaks openly about that relationship, addressing Jay's reference in Takeover. That line at the end read as Nas dismissing the fiasco (or trying to). I bet Nas or someone in his team thought about it and decided to change tactics. Probably because trying to "own it" when your BM cheating on you is a losing strategy. I would hope it was also because they decided to leave that woman alone. She didn't ask to be in these songs. I appreciate the analysis bro, that was interesting.

[@joedelarosa3997]

Nas had him 😢

[@Mr.Majestic77]

The best Eiher version was the 9th Wonder produced Either remix. The "original" Either should been and easily could be eventually be on a Nas mixtape. Shame on Sony for editing Nas original Either verses. It was evident that the powers that be of the music industry was favoring Jay Z, while true Hip-Hop fans and artists know that Nas won that battle.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

That would have destroyed his brand and everything Nas built at that point. Basically career suicide.

[@matthewmann8969]

The fact that the majority think even The Ether that was actually released hurt Jay and Jay himself admitted it hurt him hard that means that the more disrespectful version may of made Jay want to take a longer hiatus yeah.

[@nelsonejenakevwe8316]

Because Nas was saying the truth

[@jayone3442]

Jay was quiet as a church mouse when Pac was alive. That's when CNN came up. Other than BIG and his team, only Queens Bridge MCs was going at Pac

[@antoinecutler4962]

They had him shook and scared to come out his hotel in L.A 😅

[@nelsonejenakevwe8316]

Jay was even a nobody when BIG was around and Nas has been relevant from day 1. you all should give Nas his flowers while he can still smell them

[@Boe-du2iy]

This statement is super false about only Queen bridges going at PAC because the only one who thought they were going at PAC hard is mobb 6 ft deep 😊😂 but carry on....

[@brettcoppinger2008]

Nas is on a different level. Jay z is a solid producer. Nas is a legendary artist. No comp. Love and respect

[@brettcoppinger2008]

Your right. However Nas has done all of that too. Its public. When it comes to freestyles jayz is good. He loses most of the freestlye battles though. Who has he beat? Im ignorant. I would not consider Nas's freestyle ability when i compare him to others. Not his thing. He's a writer. Story teller. Jay is a hustler. Nas is legendary artist. Love and respect both those men.

[@idirbouchdoug1567]

@JustForAnimalss it's not about accomplishments and riches in this conversation. nas was the better lyricist ans MC and nas won that battle both lyrically and mentally. jay z always looks very uncomfortable any time it is brought back and he is still holding onto his grudge to this day and you can see that with him dropping albums at thesame tume as nas trying to overshadow him. That just comes off as loser behavior especially after all these years .

[@customjawnz8841]

NAS was too strong for jay-z. Even with ghost writers NAS still won. Hope this don't get deleted

[@shyneone2526]

No, it won't

[@themanman4391]

Ghostwriters? Please God don't say Nas uses ghostwriters. Jay steals lines but pretty sure he freestyles errything. Bro I will slap you on God's Son 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@trinity3422]

Jay’s downfall to losing this battle was that he wasn’t able to admit to things Nas said as much as Nas was able to address what happened between him and Jay. Imo. Nas won the battle and the war by continuing to address things Jay said about him in a calm manner and admit to it in his side of the story. It was just as much about the aftermath of Ether as it was about Ether itself. Nas’s story telling in full effect.

[@Quakeinc14]

The best diss in hip hop history. It was just a flawless victory.

[@Eye2Eye24]

I remember the first day buying that nas album and opening it up and listening. I was painting a house. And the ether song came on and I was like somebody just died. I had to be atleast 14 I forget

[@squireboi318]

Bruh u was doing the exact same shit painting a house when I heard it. 😂😂😂

[@umang6771]

Wished the label had let Esco keep that Aaliyah line in there. Imagine Jay's face upon hearing that 🤣

[@marlowstanfield6815]

That would have destroyed Nas if they left that in, dissing Aaliyah would have pissed off the entire music industry not just Rocafella, everyone loved Aaliyah so if they left that line in there it would have made everyone that loved Aaliyah hate Nas. That line would have backfired on him big time.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

@@marlowstanfield6815 maybe not it was hip hop beef back in the day

[@BrokenAscendancy]

@@OMAR-vk9pi It really would have destroyed the career of Nas, think about how poorly it would have aged, now that the beef is over.

[@YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet]

@@OMAR-vk9pi yall keep saying hip hop beef bacc in the day like the industry wasn't full or gangstas and niggas dying over real issues outside, bc of bars and beef lol or fighting on stage etc. That bar would have aged horribly. She is the blacc cultures never forgotten sweetheart. A song like ETHER which has gone on to be remembered by all and played for 2 more generations after... yea nah. That was a great choice to leave it off

[@Lj_el_great]

@@OMAR-vk9pi these people here seem to forget people back then weren’t as sensitive as today. Nas would’ve been aiight after that.

[@kasiemobinwizugbo2200]

From your analysis,I can only appreciate the genius of NAS

[@gxbbs_4]

I love Nas so much

[@lorenzojones6484]

It’s 2024 and still, I have not heard anything harder than Ether ☄️🔥🏆🤫

[@eduardorodriguez7689]

Hip hop heads know who won this shit hands down, nas still got jay shook to this day. Jay is the corporate rapper, nas is for the streets my dude

[@SkidCudi]

Nas was battling Jay, Bleek, Camron, State Property and my favourite rapper Beanie Sigel dame

[@sinematic06]

Plus Pee, Mega, & Nature along with Hot 97. Crazy

[@nelsonejenakevwe8316]

And Nas still won his entire team.

[@Maclaven720]

I remember the first day it came on the radio. Nas shocked everyone. Everyone was waiting on Jay-Z response to come out later. Classic day in Hip Hop.

[@shamsidin7986]

Only to reply with that gabbage 'Superugly'. Ego won't allow take a L.

[@PatrickGilbert8010]

Nas definitely won 🏆 that battle Jay-Z hates hearing ETHER because he knows everything Nas said in that song is TRUE 💯

[@whodatdudeiz7979]

NAZ Is 1 Of The Old School Goats That Made A Significant Print In The Hip Hop Arena Hands Down, 21 Savage Out His Mind With That Shade He Gave But Hey We All Know This New Generation Aint Come Up In The Days Of When The Music Scene Had A Respectable Atmosphere To It… Either Way -->> Long Live Hip Hop 💯✌🏾

[@dontrustwhiteyevery1]

21 savage was born in europe. He has no say so.

[@TheCommission2023]

They have a song together 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@nunnallyai]

@@dontrustwhiteyevery1😂😂 exactly

[@brodyb1985]

Ether was and Always will be the greatest diss track EVER

[@jshod7962]

HANDS DOWN☠️

[@yashawarahmawan7502]

Agreed!!!

[@JamesLerem]

No Vaseline

[@AB3L30NE]

@@JamesLeremthat’s number 2

[@JamesLerem]

@@AB3L30NE OPINIONS 💯

[@richardgriffin8629]

Nas was always 🔥

[@Matt.Savage]

NAS STILL IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE FIRE! Holy fuck, are people really not listening to what he's putting out still to this day!? Man's dropped album of the year with King's Disease III and people just keep acting like he hasn't made an album since God's Son, when since then he has made: Distant Relatives, Life Is Good, NASIR, Untitled and a Trilogy of albums that are better than Jay's Blueprint Trilogy and also Magic that is a 10/10. So why people keep saying that he "wAs FiRe" I'll never understand, because bitch he is and ALWAYS WILL BE FIRE!🔥🙌🏾

[@gmurda5]

It's 2022 nas needs to release that shit. And wutang should release that unreleased album as well.

[@nqobizwehadebe8322]

No arguments , Nas is the God of Rap

[@CATASTROPHE808]

Amazing video Had me going on iTunes multiple times to listen back on certain songs 😅 Great homework! Aloha from Hawaii

[@ailuosi7241]

look at how uncomfortable jay looked in that interview. he was reliving the horror.

[@Man_eee]

That itself just shows that Nas won.

[@nqobizwehadebe8322]

I thought I was the only one who noticed

[@marcussimmons6944]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@desolusholakelly]

After 20 years of listening to Ether I’m only finding out now that Nas sampled Pacs let’s be friends song🔥the original version is one of my favourites from Pac🙌🏾still have it on cd

[@destinixshakur]

I didn’t know till recently too

[@LXRD-SUPREME-]

Me too could recognize the voice since it was slowed down.

[@armandokoshena5133]

Nas killed Jay and his crew on this beef

[@elmascavidal1797]

Nas took on the Roc for Dolo ….. Respect my guy…. The Goat 🐐 🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ransom6892]

I remember when these lyrics first appeared back in 2001 and I never saw any confirmation that they were real. The plane crash line was known, but nothing ever made me believe without a shadow of a doubt that these full verses were legitimate. It’s possible, but there never has been any proof

[@randomletterandnumber]

This is just a bunch of nonsense. Keep it to yourself.

[@ransom6892]

@@randomletterandnumber You should probably stick to the “nu metal” playlist that you created on your channel and leave hip hop discussions to people who actually know about hip hop

[@emceeunderdogrising]

I remember this from way back. But it is real. Confirmed by those around him at the time. But the lyrics have never been fully released. I was hoping this video had some updates. Maybe the verses. I bet it will never be seen. A Hip Hop legend.

[@JA-mj9re]

🤦🤦

[@ArKoFhIpHoP]

Believe it or not, i actually wrote these verses because nas response was taking too long and the jay fans were slaying nas supporters. To be honest, i was such a fan and artist as well but i wrote those 2 verses and posted them on nas community board album website and said i was the engineer of the "dis session" which why there were written verses to begin with.

[@DeMonSpencer]

I was in New York the day Ether got dropped listening to hot 97. I remember they played that song back to back-all day. People were calling begging them to play it again. Then Jay was calling radio stations trying to get them to stop playing it working his connections behind the scenes. He knew that song was an existential threat to his career. He had everyone with him calling stations explaining to dj's why Takeover was the real winner. I've never seen anything like that. Never saw Jay sweat like that... ever.

[@NathanielFloat]

Jay-Z is, was, and always will be one the most oversold, overhyped, and underwhelming rappers of all time- idgaff what anyone else says. I never, ever met a Jay-Z fan, nor met anyone who even has one single song of his garbage on their playlist. Nas, on the other hand, is a/the goat of hip-hop who gets love, respect, and appreciation everywhere you look. NAS is real, Jay is nothing short of fraudulent.

[@SimilakChild]

I had the original Ether track on the Best of QB mixtape. my friend burned the CD for me back in the days. it was fire.

[@OGPimpin]

You gotta upload that joint

[@SharronNeedles]

🧢

[@mrarroyo571]

I want a break down of the MOB deep vs Jay Z, those mix tapes are hard to find now days

[@TekkLuthor]

I'm a Jay-Z fan but King's Disease trilogy has put Nas firmly ahead of Jay-Z in the GOAT debate

[@octagonseventynine1253]

Nah. Jay has so many classic albums. Nas has about 3.

[@DeeNice681]

Jay has two clsssics ‘Reasonable Doubt’ and ‘Blueprint’. ‘American Gangster’ and ‘Black Album’ are near classics!

[@tmc2710]

@@octagonseventynine1253 Nas has 8 classics..Jay has about 6.. plus Nas won the battle

[@daniel_debo]

@TMC Jay-Z got stronger after the beef anyways the beef glad they squashed the beef.

[@daniel_debo]

@@DeeNice681 Black Album is a classic stop it on about it near classic

[@yeanzeek]

I really thought Drake and Kendrick beef was really intense till i came across this video. Damn Jay and Nas went at it like real niggaz! Krazy

[@darrenraphael]

Just like 50 cent- Original "Lifes on the line" ja rule diss song. Nas and 50 were on the same label at the time. That 50 cent original song got industry heads and mob bosses angry. It is also the reason the label made Nas change his lyrics. They did not want another 50 cent situation on their hands. Jay Z also got Ethered by 50 cent on the 50 track called "Be a Gentlemen". After that Jay Z never mentioned 50's name again in a song. That "Be a gentlemen" song was on 50's Guess Who's back mixtape, the best mixtape in history, which had many labels wanting to sign 50.

[@paigeofstylez]

Mc Serch said Nas was getting paid from Jay Z was using his sample, the whole time, RECENTLY ON MATH HOFFA 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@destinixshakur]

I believe this

[@303Smilezzz]

Yes I'm old lol, but this was huge. EVERYBODY played this back at least twice in a row when you first heard it, and he killed jay......prime jay too. Nothing comes close to this, and Nas was pushed to do this lol. Yikes.....

[@ptown_southerner]

I remember being at Nas album release performance in L.A...He destroyed Jay that night. If only we had these modern cell phones back then ...

[@dopeboyp3487]

This was a dope upload… Started watching it and couldn’t stop! 👊🏽💯

[@TrackHustlersENT]

Jay acting like he wasn't affected by either is wild. He was damn near crying talking to Angie Martinez on the radio when it dropped lmao dudes always lying

[@brothajoe2139]

I really love this video and the details within the commentary. I did have a question, I was not sure if Nas used word play when he implied "You Lost Already." There was a movie called "Highlander III," Christopher Lambert had learned a new sword technique from Mako where they lock up behind each others heads and spin in an infinity shape where Mako would turn out the victor. There is a saying during this time "You Already Lost." Was Nas was a fan of that movie and implies that Jay Z lost already coming at him with his current form?

[@thefinalwatcher]

Could be a Fist of the North Star reference.

[@flboiy8503]

I still say the released version goes the hardest. You may have to know the back story to see just how hard it is vs the words in the unreleased are pretty clear to even a dummy, but the released version just can't be beat!!!💯

[@criticalthinker8013]

Damm that sht had me in tears on the floor laughing so hard when i first heard Nas say = you 36 in a karate class! Lol You Tae bo ho lmao 🤣you tryna work it out you tryna get brolic smh He destroyed Jay so bad! Nas even had so many one liners that destroyed Jay lol He said that ether! that sht that make you're soul burn slow iLL! DAMM! SMH Man most don't even get it and never will. Smh

[@andrik78]

The fact that Jay Z survived that beat down shows how much money was behind him

[@bomanidaalchemist5801]

The intro on Ether will always be legendary… Fuck Jay Z

[@jayar17708]

“Who is he , dame diddy, dame daddy or dame dummy.. oh I get it, your biggie and he’s puffy” -Nas Fuck that! I’m puffy! -Jay z 😆 Rocafella Breaks Up*

[@kochampokoj870]

The beef helped promote the artists, pushed some extra boxes off the shelves but I wonder if they were any stans of either one of them who took the beef so much to heart that it came to blows or worse yet to bloodshed as they defended their idols.

[@edwardminaya1708]

Is funny how Jay z was always bitter and started bitting their styles and twisted to his own from big and nas

[@johnmcghee3963]

Who here in 2024 and jay just been named alongside diddy in a r@pe case of a child 👀

[@tashaawesome6297]

🙋🏼‍♀️

[@Xx2abattery]

I’m literally going into every live stream and telling people

[@johnmcghee3963]

@ 😂😂😂

[@Slim.change]

Jay lying he was so hurt you could see it in his face. He didn't think nas had it in him. Ether still killed him in a watered down version

[@miketruck3000]

Naz completely destroyed Jay Z with one of the best diss tracks in hip hop history if not the best and the only reason why I say that it's one of the best because Pac destroyed biggie with his tracks so I'm really torn on which one is the best.

[@raymondadigwe8918]

Hit them up Number 1, Ether number 2

[@lo2smooth647]

Legend has it that Can I Live Was supposed 2 feature Nas

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

9:43 Not what happened! It wasn't fast, cuz NaS waited _very_ patiently to drop Ether. Almost 3 months. Facts! This is what really happened: June 2001 at Summer Jam, there was only one bar directed at NaS in the unreleased Takeover. NaS and Prodigy/Mobb Deep responded pretty quickly with mixtape songs. Blood Money freestyle comes to mind. There were others from the extended crew, including some tracks from the late E-Money Bags (a famous gangster who dabbled in rapping with an interesting life story and who was the one Jay went through to try to reach out to NaS for a verse on Reasonable Doubt). Also NaS had an infamous radio freestyle mocking _H to the Izzo_ that allegedly was blocked from spins by Rocafella. But people in the business heard it and NaS promised a crazy album. Due to all of this, in September the album version of Takeover with a new verse going at NaS was released. Same day the planes crashed. This was when most of us heard Takeover for the first time. There were questions about how NaS was going to respond. For a while. Finally, December 4th, after a long wait where Jay was riding high on his horse for almost 3 months… NaS released the Ether / Got Urself A Gun single. On Jay's birthday. Now THAT is crazy timing. Lured Jay into a false sense of security. The story goes that Jay heard it that night in the club when a DJ played it. People close to Jay-Z (at that time) said he was trying to figure out how NaS discovered so much of the information in Ether. Who told NaS? Jay-Z responded 7 days later with Supa Ugly Freestyle, over the Bubba Sparxxx song of the same name. Because allegedly he didn't have enough time to get an original hot beat that was suitable. Similar to how earlier that same year in order to get an Eminem feature on his album, Jay repurposed a yet-to-be-released Eminem song meant for Royce Da 5'9" and his debut album. (Although it has been stated that this was probably more to do with Eminem's tight schedule and Jay's deadline).

[@7deepbreaths.sounds]

I kinda like the way this brotha analyzes the music and careers of hip-hop artists.

[@kasabianrage7487]

Ether and hit em up clearly won

[@tiffeetaffyyahoo9530]

You said that when it comes to battles, there are no limits. Well I call myself old school/ HipHop ! Born 1966. Yes there are limits to a battle in Hip-hop. When you cross the limits, there you find the price on doing so. Ex: Mr. 2 Pac and Mr. Biggie Smalls. Hip Hop is the spirit of my generation. It's about teaching survival and sharing skills. Each one teach one. It's all entertaining. That we naturally are. From the cradle to the grave. The best way to do anything. Especially teaching. So we have those that give you a vacation from your stress and we have those that show you why you're stressed and they understand , those that are their to reach you and teaching you about many aspects in life and then those that want to be worshipped by you. Regardless........Immediate Family, children, Mother's, Baby mother's etc. , are some of the things that you don't touch, ( I love me some Pac, all day.) Your bringing in negative into a realm that was invented for survival. Hit hard and good but we all know the limits been crossed. Everybody should. For the sake of survival. If you don't mind going down. Go down making a real difference. Mr.Nas and Mr.Jay-Z , both know. Nas fits best into my, trus blue. I love yah. Keep up the good work. I watch you often and will be watching you rise. God bless.

[@zoroshima1664]

This is why those two are the greatest. Talks of their battle still being relevant. Two hip hop kings. No doubt! Nas has always and still til this day my number one Hip Hop artist. The watered down verse was fire the original one was an atomic bomb. Good ta see someone breakdown Esco’s lyrics. I use ta do that ta my homies ta get them ta see why Nas won dat junt. Idc what anyone say

[@valram3489]

Those 2 u buggin my guy Nas is that guy

[@zoroshima1664]

@@valram3489 nah! My dude. I’m not buggin. Those two. Reason is is because, one Nas is my favorite artist no doubt. He was back then and still is til this day but, Jayz does have good content too. The fact that the both of their names keeps each other relevant proves that. Now that I look at it I should’ve been more specific with my words. Those two are great. You can tell yourself whatever lie you want that’s cool. I didn’t mean it as the greatest to ever done it. Nah! They are great though. Each contributed something ta the culture. Nas did came out wit a style and a lot of dudes ran wit it. I was in my teens around that era I know. And Jay too had the streets bumpin wit dat hood ish. Down south, we even bumped Jayz. Few up north cats got bumped in the south and those two was one of’em. I could go on and on ta prove my points but, I’ll save that fa another time. Two greats.

[@MrMightyToo]

Jay is whack. Just a boy the system uses.

[@Andre-y5o]

Been waiting for this, my playlist ain't been the same without it, whoop from Texas 🤟🤙👌

[@GunninRebel55]

I'm sorry but Jay-Z's "Takeover" was weak. He could never come close to Nas on the mic. He was quiet as a hooker in church when Pac was on his ass. He did DMX foul out of fear & jealousy. Prodigy was doper and realer than Jay as well and Kanye is killing him when it comes to classics, authenticity, and just genuine realism. Bottom line Jay is a not a real one.