NASCAR's Next Gen Cars Explained by Kaulig Racing's Chris Rice

[@backcountryme]

Now if we can only get rid of the Chase and the segmented races and get back to the winner of the race gets the most points, most points at the end of the year wins the championship. All this stage racing and resetting points is dumb.

[@williamthomas9463]

AMEN! The best overall over the entire season should be the champion. End of discussion.

[@loganteal8696]

@Donovan it also ruins strategy most of the time

[@Not_A_Cat]

AMEN! The chase format is broken. Consistency from Daytona to Homestead is what wins championships!

[@caribman10]

Completely correct and will never happen...

[@loganteal8696]

@@caribman10 they probably can’t get rid of stage racing but they can maybe get rid of stage cautions

[@mattbriscoe]

thanks for bringing Chris on. This was awesome to hear from an up and coming team

[@hillarylevenworth8824]

The transaxle can only be serviced by Xtrac...wait till you get that bill!

[@JP_Stoeffler]

So neat to have this information from Chris Rice. Great episode.

[@LMarshall73]

For aerodynamic advantage, that will be on the manufacturers just like it used to be. If you want to sell on Monday help your teams win on Sunday.

[@michaelgray5660]

Pan under the car sounds good but when the 1st driver burns to death nascar will try to push that on to someone but even on the daily driver cars out there now engines transmissions things will leak so get ready for it. On my 2015 1 have replaced it 3 times already.

[@tooltime4640]

If you don’t hit stuff you don’t have to replace under shields

[@Bramon83]

That doesn't sell cars. Why are people still trying that played out line.

[@LMarshall73]

@@Bramon83 Because it still holds true. There are many people that practice brand loyalty. If the drive a Chevy, they cheer on Chevy drivers. Same with Ford, same with Toyota.

[@stellingbanjodude]

What people don’t realize is that the transmission mounts in the rear like a corvette, it’s not just a transmission, it’s a transaxle. So the current transmission would not remotely work in the new car.

[@wickedgood1984]

This guy gets it!

[@Rattlecanjeff]

Sounds fragile.

[@stellingbanjodude]

@@Rattlecanjeff actually they’re pretty tough.

[@Takdashark]

@@Rattlecanjeff FRAGILE must be Italian

[@ChampaBayBeast]

Finally, this could bring the drivers back in the spotlight and not the owners who spend more than the other teams.

[@cjbecker1683]

Put them all on bias ply tires & let us see who can really wheel a car 👍

[@christopherenger1602]

Well see how much it puts it back in the drivers hand. I still feel like they will find a way around it like they do.

[@1979dal]

Making the car cost less just give more money to the power teams. Nothing will change.

[@joeyjohnson4826]

Lol 😆 🤣 sure 👍

[@backcountryme]

@@cjbecker1683 Kyle Larson. That is who. Ha

[@mikeskidmore6754]

They are putting pans under the cars.. Smocky Yunick tried that in 1966 and NASCAR banned him because as a Private car builder was going to make the Million Dollar Ford and Chrysler Teams look bad with his Chevelle .. with a 416 Cubic inch engine

[@pentilex4338]

One space dude, just one

[@backcountryme]

There were a few other things on that car that really pushed (and sometimes outright broke) the rules. I love Smokey. He was an amazingly smart man. The sport of racing needs more like him.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@backcountryme NASCAR was letting Ford and Chrusler .. / Dodge and Mecury get away with 28 gallon gas tanks and they were only supposed to be 22 gallons.. Smokey new the Factory teams were cheating.. Al the trouble to inflate and deflate a basketball inside the gas tank does not seem like he would ban more than about two gallons.. His 2" diameter 12 foot long fuel line added capacity howver.. The things is the things Smoke did .. did not say in the Rule book that you could not do them. Thus NASCAR had to keep adding more rules when they didn't like what Smokey was doing.. Another thing that Smokey fought hard for was roll cages.. NASCAR said that a "Stock Car" was not allowed a rool cage.. As the cars got faster of course NASCAR started requiring them after how many drivers died in crashes.. and fires .. now they use Fuel cells..

[@backcountryme]

@@mikeskidmore6754 Smokey is the reason for about half the Nascar rulebook. Haha. Like I said, I loved that guy. I have his complete "Best damn garage in town" audio book. I had the actual book at one time, but lost it in a move. I really wish I didn't, because after the fire at his shop they are impossible to find. And if you do they are crazy expensive.

[@wfail8656]

My favorite podcast is anything Dirty Mo!!!!

[@blunt7315]

Well said

[@saber-jocky3436]

Coming from a technology background, just because they are from the same vendors doesn't mean they are getting the same stuff. In the computer world, binning is a very big thing. There are ways of determining what is going to be better and what is going to be inferior. It will most certainly be a case of behind the scenes back scratching going on to make sure the top teams with the top money will still be getting the better "same" parts than the small teams.

[@Not_A_Cat]

All parts are created equal. Some parts are more equal than others.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Mario Andretti knew the other Fored Drivers had 25 more HP than his moter did .. He tried switching name tags on the Motors that were built for his Teams mates.. After certain Ford Officals claiming they all dynoed the same they were upset when he swithed the name tags around.. Finally he got one of the Motors with more HP and he Won the DAytona 500 with it..

[@BoomerKeith1]

It's going to be on NASCAR to monitor that. The Xfinity series has been doing it (as mentioned in this video) with the bodies, so there is a process in place. I suspect NASCAR will implement something along the line of a blind issue. The manufacturer send the parts to NASCAR and they, in turn, distribute the parts blindly. So, no race team, vendor, or even NASCAR will know what part may be better than the others. It's going to take time to figure of the new protocols out, but it'll get done.

[@Greatshamefamiry]

Big teams want to save money on building cars but will just end up spending it somewhere else...cost control in a highly competitive environment like NASCAR seems like a pipe dream to me

[@willieshaw2522]

That "somewhere else" is spending several million dollars overseas buying the alloy wheels from BBS. While the "official" vendor is BBS of "America" - all that means is they are distributed from there. They are forged and machined overseas for an overseas vendor. Want to promote NASCAR to an American fan base - buy AMERICAN MADE PARTS for them.

[@nshelitack]

Man I like Chris Rice.

[@4x4maximus]

As an Australian v8supercar fan. It worked great for our racing series. It's all about driver skill. All cars are identical mechanically. Makes the racing exciting relying on driver skill and strategies. You americams won't look back once you experience it

[@jameshoagland9660]

Innovation was fun also.

[@johnsnow1355]

Exactly but Nascar wants to be like F1 with center lug rims and aluminum rims and body panels that resembles nothing the public car actually buy.

[@DennyDeliversYT]

Now if Chris could tell us which driver is gonna drive for Kaulig’s cup team..... 👀

[@nrb8780]

@Woobiecrew nah i dont think aj is doing full time cup anymore. he said it wasn't fun anymore and was miserable when he walked away from the 47. I say either Kaz or Haley

[@StarMaster055]

As a true Kaulig Racing fan, I have the same question @DennyDelivers

[@codydisney9959]

I hope it's Kaz Gala

[@joshpena3358]

Prolly Jeb Burton, from ole Sobo South Boston Va.

[@jeffelder942]

@@nrb8780 if talking about Haley Deegan won't be her.1st she's a ford driver 2nd and most importantly she's not ready needs more time in lower series don't rush her like they did Danica

[@Not_A_Cat]

When you start using the same chassis and body on road course and oval, nascar will be a winning formula. One chassis for every track type only helps big teams.

[@Horse6L]

The last time a unsponsored, underfunded, privateer team won a championship was 2010 in F1. Spec cars don't give small teams a chance they just allow big teams to spend crazy around on things no one normally would.

[@Mack_Worlds_Media]

Just getting back in to nascar from the late 90s early 2000s just from this podcast alone 💯

[@dennisgarrett144]

You ain't missing nothing but politics & cry baby drivers

[@DanWilkinsonjr]

My man Chris sounds like if Jeff Burton and Ward Burton combined their voices.

[@paulcarullo4329]

I thought he sounded like Cleveland from family guy haha

[@daleward9855]

Heck they all grew up together they should sound alike….

[@tooltime4640]

I can’t not picture this anytime I hear him talk now. Great comparison

[@foldelops]

Thanks Dale, Dirty Mo Team & Chris Rice ... great explanation of all the new changes on the nxt gen car ... Is there a "Nascar for Dummies" lol There r so many changes it can be hard to keep up w things if ur just a fan ...

[@mariaburchette4205]

Bring more car owners in. How does that work with the charter? This is just a push for more control on NASCAR’s part. Let’s not fool ourselves.

[@77x5ghost]

inb4 kyle busch starts complaining about the new cars the second he starts driving them

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Yet he's still #1 on your mind.

[@stakeoutownage]

Can't stand to drive them, they suck, right? 😂

[@77x5ghost]

@@RedWingsninetyone he's #1 in my idiot list

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@77x5ghost and still lives rent free in your head

[@TheAqualegend]

@@RedWingsninetyone He lives rent free in his own head.

[@ejharrop1416]

I do hope that this car does make the driver more important. Hate to see an old time IROC single file race, that would suck. In the end I will watch no matter what. Lol

[@Paregoros123]

"These cars are gonna struggle for the first year cuz we dont know what they need" We do... horsepower lol

[@johnbehneman1546]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! WHAT A TOTALLY AWESOME EDUCATION!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!

[@TomChame]

Say goodbye to 75% of the race shop employees.

[@johnhaas2523]

Haha

[@jimb_28]

This is true .. It's a bad thing too , but I'm sure they know who's not going to have a job , and hopefully they have something else lined up ..

[@RebelRocket]

When the COT came out, the same thing was said. No more race track specific cars. Didn't take long and the teams were back to building cars specifically for road courses, plate races etc.

[@charlie6299]

I wonder if a lot of that was just because of the camber requirement for different levels of banking at different tracks on a car without much adjustment (solid axle cars have pre bent tubes). Now with way more suspension adjustment, is that really needed? just realign, change spring and bar rates, ride heights, etc for different tracks.

[@seandecker1632]

"Do you think we'll shift at mile and a halfs?" "Absolutely." I love the sound of that 😁

[@satyajeetk.r2923]

I didn't get it....are they talking about gear shifting?

[@seandecker1632]

@@satyajeetk.r2923 Yes. Theoretically, shifting at mile and a halfs will help them get better runs off the corner and make passes.

[@aaronhobart6223]

@@seandecker1632 sounds like this car might give better racing ..

[@CaptainWoogie06]

Why?

[@rustyreese4006]

@@CaptainWoogie06 why not? It's something else for the drivers to use to their advantage, or detriment. I'm all for it. It's one of the things that make road courses so much fun. Loving the racing this season so far. Hope they keep it going in the future. Seven road courses, and dirt at Bristol. It's been the most fun season to watch in years.

[@fastfoodreviewandelvistoo]

Super modified racing at Oswego Speedway is and has always been the best racing ever. NASCAR is good if you like watching taxi cabs running around.

[@smylebutta7250]

The Chevy's stopped struggling when the manufacturer changed the nose of the Camero.

[@curtishinkle3893]

Camero?

[@pzkpfw2310]

Is that the same company that makes the Silveraydo?

[@Not_A_Cat]

Who'd have thought a barn-door front wasn't aerodynamic.

[@RATTL3R186]

This is becoming IROC MEETS F1.

[@christopherenger1602]

V8 Supercar. Nascar version

[@sirmonkey1985]

@@christopherenger1602 this but with better looking cars.. ;)

[@Not_A_Cat]

@@sirmonkey1985 better looking than the V8SC? You're dreaming mate.

[@cirian75]

These NASCAR's have taken a big step towards to being able rival the German DTM's cars

[@loiteringrambler2928]

not really they have big wings, cutouts for better aerodynamics and the cars are much lighter im speaking 1000+ pounds. Pretty sure those dtm cars beat them on any road course

[@blankman6681]

Not anymore. DTM is GT3 now.

[@cirian75]

@@blankman6681 Yeah I saw, so these 2022 Nascar's are getting closer to the "old" type DTM's

[@clintrench6850]

Just found you guys really like the pod cast. Good info. Interesting conversations . really enjoyed it.

[@MDAdams72668]

Our local "series" mandated a specific shock from a specific vendor. It cost 20% more (on paper) than what we had been using In reality there were not enough IF you could buy one it was for 200-500 percent more than what we had been running We quit that series and went "outlaw" I hope this works to help teams but I doubt it

[@christopherenger1602]

I really don't see it will. After a while the big teams will figure out the parts game again.

[@Bramon83]

Quit saying they look like production cars. They do not. I have never considered buying a car based on any race car. It's a race car.

[@docohm50]

We need to go back to the old days. Race the body on the showroom floor!

[@sirmonkey1985]

this is about as close as it's going to get and has taken way too damn long to happen.

[@timg2088]

Bring back NASCAR!

[@veronicav278]

WOW!!! I had no IDEA how many cars a team ran!!! That is INSANE. How was that even sustainable??? I'm missing a piece of the puzzle. 🤔 There is a change going on behind the scenes but it doesn't seem like it's about money. Money is a FACTOR but there is something more. TJ the less experienced drivers NEED PRACTICE. That is why I want it. It doesn't have to be 2 days of practice like it used to be. It can be one session of practice and the qualifier. Nevertheless, the younger drivers need to get EXPERIENCE at the various tracks. If drivers like Logano Harvick and Hanlin want to skip practice, by all means have at it. But I think the less experienced drivers need practice. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@rustyreese4006]

It's been working pretty good this season. It seems to have brought a lot of parity to the races. So far no team has been able to dominate. Haven't watched every race this year yet, but after several races we've had a different winner for each. A couple of guys have managed to finish in the top ten for most of them, but this season has been very entertaining so far.

[@MrJoe1129uscg]

Sounds like the COT all over again, when it first started I remember Kurt Busch ran the same #2 Miller light car at Talladega and Martinsville. Within a couple of years this latest new car will be the same and the teams will have specialized cars for every type of track.

[@ScoutPL]

So I remember this same story with the COT. We'll run this same car at Daytona and Richmond and Sonoma. And that might have happened once. But they quickly started specializing the chassis. I don't buy this uniform car thing. Now maybe it will be cheaper. But not multi-use versatile.

[@johnhaas2523]

Nascar is forcing it. They said can only have 7 cars at any given time pre team. So for lets say Hendrick that 7 cars for the 5 team, 7 for 24, 7 for 48 7 for 9 team. Each chassis has to be used in x number of races a year before can be retired. If damage 1 that can't repair than you can have another car

[@wingracer1614]

@@johnhaas2523 I'm curious though, any provision for complete write offs? We have seen teams destroy 3 cars at speedweek before. If you totally destroy 3 cars at Daytona, your season is looking pretty grim if there is no provision for replacement

[@hawkszone3310]

Truth

[@backcountryme]

@@wingracer1614 I believe the rule is 7 ready to go at any time. You destroy one, then you can build another to stay at the 7 limit.

[@ShaunHensley]

Stopped watching NASCAR due to the COT. I am not interested in a spec series. I like rulebooks with grey areas for engineers and mechanics to explore. This move takes the gearhead aspect out of competition.

[@Wildturkey10121]

I totally agree!

[@jonathanburrowaz]

Me too! But NASCAR cant put their liberal fingers on why the fans have left the past decade or so.

[@autotalon]

They can go two routes, either standardize stuff so that teams can race and keep the costs under control, or go the F1 route and be more liberal with it and stamp out everything they dont want as people think of it. I think they both have their merits, but I dont think something akin to F1 would survive in the US.

[@bigrooster6893]

COT was a great car.

[@cmdrdredd]

@@autotalon Nobody is saying make it like F1. Make it like it was before, less rules, more leeway to play with height and design, Let the drivers drive the cars, stop forcing the pack to bunch up, and for christ's sake remove the abomination that is the stages. Make fuel and tire strategy a thing again. This also ruined Formula 1 with no stops under green for fuel.

[@nbgreen02]

Now get rid of the segment bull in the race and I'll be back to watch these cars!

[@paulebelmesser2699]

Sounds like NASCAR. Is becoming a "Spec racing series".

[@daffy_6632]

Every race series around the world has one car for every track about time for NASCAR!

[@joeleyendecker5346]

I think that "Those Unknowns" are the main reason why they changed the Xfinity Series Cars up closer to the "Next Gen" style Cars for "this season" ahead of Cup's Next Gen entry. It was by design. It gives the "Cup" Series Teams a "little" insight as to the "Legal Changes" or "Legal Modifications" they will be able make to help make them more competitive from one Track to Another from Day One, and still pass inspection before a race. Although I think we'll still see a lot of failures in the inspection arena in the first few events, like they had, with the last big change a couple years ago. Remembering, as an example, the Chevy's struggles they had to overcome in the beginning of that year. Even though there are major differences between the two, the Aero portion of the Cars are the "Meat and Potatoes" of the Changes and Xfinity did it this year. They can't expect to be able to take their 2022 Next Gen Cars to every different track in the Off-Season to build a notebook, so instead they used the Xfinity Cars as a "Lab Rat" for this very purpose. I seem to remember hearing that they're only allowed "So Much" testing time abilities on different tracks by "The Rules" anyway if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately though, not all the Teams race in both Series, so the one's that don't will be at a big disadvantage. I imagine that if they just "Plunked" them down in Daytona for their "Cup" debut for the first time without testing out the Xfinity Cars it would make for a Catastrophic or Boring start to the 2022 season...depending on what they know about the Characteristics of the new cars. I look at it as positive though as being the Costs are lower, we should see a few more Teams popping up to make the racing more interesting....I guess we'll see...

[@jdoe9518]

Penske spent 3 years in V8Supercars to get in front of the NextGen car

[@GlassJ0e]

@ It seemed to me he didn’t have much of a choice. They all acted very professionally when Roger pushed the majority of his top resources toward Blaney and Logano…but the writing was on the wall there. He was basically keeping the seat warm for Cindric which is something a hall of fame driver should never be expected to accept. So far he’s been winning with top teams that taught him a lot but never gave him any real decision making responsibility. I back him to prove he’s more than a driver.

[@samnixon6198]

Thx guys. Informative discussion.

[@bobpeterson4930]

Next gen car appears to be headed towards a driver-based / IROC (all cars created equal) type of racing. Question... are the engines identical or are they manufacture specific engines i.e., does each car have it's own manufacture /branded engine -Ford, Chevy and/or Toyota - or are they all running the exact same spec engine?

[@johnsnow1355]

Next gen cars and currently raced cars ride on rubber bumper and the shocks and springs actually do nothing. Nothing at all everything is the solid rubber bumper Nascar have 0 suspension travel..... They ride on a rubber block all the way around every track.

[@thepacketnarc7634]

The analogy for side profile was good; but really it's much simpler. "Air" isn't "empty space" there's a "buffering" aspect. That car is a kite; and when you go from a straight line at 155mph and turn left, as the car is sliding into the turn the space between the wall and the car is getting smaller and smaller. The air has to go somewhere; the car is "squishing" that air space, and that air wants to push back. So it helps keep the car on the race line. It's gonna take these drivers a while to get used to the difference in how these cars slide, without that buffer between themselves and the wall. It's also gonna play hell on tire wear, because they'll probably lean on that back right a lot more trying to make up for it.

[@jd-rv2cz]

The overall concept of having one manufacturer (Dallara) build all the components is FINE. I'm okay with that for parity sake. The problem I have is the design of the vehicle. Get the idea of "showroom street car STOCK" out of your head. A NASCAR 'Stock Car' has been a tube frame chassis based mostly on MECHANICAL GRIP since 1983. Only the hood roof and trunk had to conform to manufacturer dimensions on the Gen 3/4 cars (until the 2002 common template rule...) Yes aero has become more important, but mechanical grip has always been key to a winning car in NASCAR. With Gen 7, we add a flat floor, rear diffuser, even more aero sculpting to the bodies and then they sell you a fake bill of sale on the idea that these are closer to "Stock cars" no they are not. they're still completely bespoke race cars sharing absolutely nothing with your street car. They just aren't STOCK CARS anymore. They're GT race cars on ovals. Now we will have a ton of aero, tons of drag, even less focus on mechanical grip (especially with that low profile tire that is stiffer than hell) and here's the part that KILLS me. These cars are going to have less horsepower than a showroom stock Shelby GT 500 at your local Ford dealership... The Shelby has 670hp. The car you can buy for like $55,000 and drive to dinner in. How is this supposed to feel special in any way or actually create better racing? I'm telling you now, NASCAR is making a mistake with this car.

[@jedishaadu8343]

Actually it's 760hp

[@chase9812]

Real Mustang with new awesome Mustang engine and sound!! Camaro etc....... that's what fans want!!!!

[@tcmusic6429]

No they don’t lmao

[@timg2088]

Definitely!

[@MASTAdondaMASTADON]

Kaulitz racing fan now love the insight

[@bigblocklawyer]

Amazing to see what they'll do to make it so bubba can finally win a race.

[@gordjohnson70]

Bubba win ??? Is this the comedy network ?

[@andyhamilton8940]

Basically Trans Am Cup now.

[@sstroh08]

Sounds like they're going opposite of what I'd like to see.... Crumbly aero dependant cars that are pretty much the exact same thing even if they look slightly more individualized.... Sigh.... I really dislike the single lug wheels... The fact these guys changed 5 lugs in such a fast time was something to brag about! On top of that how many stock cars have a single lug? I'm sure we'll be sticking with all the cheesy race and championship setups too right? The segments and that goody "playoff" basketball model somehow jammed into racing mess?

[@pewterpirate4560]

Most educational thing I've done this month! Thx 👍😁

[@Micah_Makes]

Now how do we get them back to actual stock cars? A Supra vs Camaro vs Mustang would sell tickets like hot-cakes and would be quite the spectacle. I mean you'd obviously put in all of the safety gear into the cars, so that doesn't go away. It would also keep the job security at the teams and engine builders. The comparing speedway cars to short-course cars could have been enforced without going to a spec chassis. You get to homologate one chassis for your race season. Problem solved. You could do the same for the body shape for the scan check. Meanwhile NASCAR was stupid and wouldn't let flat bottom's for the front of the cars. This lead to everyone using headers, oil pans, bellhousings and boom tubes as changing aero devices depending on the track. I used to design these parts, I know the dumb money wasted by teams for their spec, handmade inconel headers for specific chassis and tracks.

[@anthonynelson9136]

Nascar keeps yanking out its roots trying to graft other stuff to them. They are a lot like when in 1985 Woke a Cola changed their receipt to new Coke, they tried to change into something it wasn't. That's the same thing Nascar has been doing for the last 20 years. Go back to what was working 20 years ago when Nascar was rivaling football as the most-watched sport in America.

[@jimmydavis7876]

You hit the nail on the head, this is not stock car racing, nothing more than late model sportsman cars, nothing at all to do with stock cars . Nothing is stock, they have forgotten how it originated, the birth of the sport . Who could build the best trip car

[@warrenswan5842]

Won't happen. NASCAR doesn't have the names it did back then, and if we really want to talk about when NASCAR was NASCAR, we'd call it the Winston Cup again, and boom here are many of the names and personalities that made it great. You don't have an Earnheart racing regularly anymore. No Stewarts, No nothing. You have the Bush Bro's, but that's not the same. No Martins. No Waltrips. The sport itself let itself get stale with the product, and it got tons worse when the COT arrived to where the drivers themselves hated it. I've only done limited reading into this one, and the drivers once again aren't thrilled. NASCAR has no choice but to change. I'm not saying it's for the better or for the worse, but when you're loosing money hand over foot because most of your big names are gone, and some past favorites are not remotely involved in the sport, your 'base' is getting older, and less interested in it because their heroes are gone, sponsorship money is long gone(note it's not the Monster Cup anymore, it's a hybrid now), what are you going to do? I agree that they could go back to the traditional 'you win the most during the season, you win the whole thing'. I genuinely like that except, now you have four owners supplying almost all of the other teams their gear and support. Wasn't like that 20yrs ago. So basically the man who wins will come from one of the big four, and will get extremely predictable(much like an Earnheart WILL win ALL superspeedways in the late 90's through early 2000's). It'll get quite stale to see Kyle, Hamlin, Harvick, Truex, Elliot, and a few other names alternate championships. It'll get quite old real fast. NASCAR has absolutely no choice but to try new(and in some cases dumb things like moving from carbs to FI) to get people in seats, people watching races, and sponsors willing to foot some expensive bills in an unstable economy, when their bottom lines are shrinking also.

[@Raceking46]

what about employment opportunities at all the different shops. whose gonna lose their job because of this? Sounds like alot of people losing their jobs to me.

[@TheTwidget6]

Legendary information, super excited for the change

[@super22ll]

The last 2 or 3 generations of cup cars, they said we will be able to run the same car at Bristol that we run at Talladega that we run at Sonoma. Never happened and I don’t expect it to with this car.

[@nascar8and20]

Racing these Gen cars in iracing is a game changer from the recent cars...it's BADASS!!

[@johnsnow1355]

The cheap options is actually using stock body panels from production cars it should be pretty cheap to buy parts from OEM manufacturer.

[@Aljjl]

Time will tell on the new car. In the end I think the same top teams win the races .

[@backcountryme]

Cream always rises. The best teams are the ones that are the most prepared and practiced. The changes might allow for some of the smaller teams to have a chance every now and then though.

[@kben24]

I look at the Next Gen Car, particularly the diffuser on the back, and then I consider the at way NASCAR loves destroying equipment at Daytona & Talladega. Seems like a bad idea. Even at the average track, so many spares will be needed coming from one chassis supplier.

[@johnhaas2523]

Haha

[@Medic35wny]

I wish we could get this podcast in video form and not just the voice.

[@TheFuse101]

I don't really understand why they don't have two separate channels for each podcast - a full length podcast video channel and a highlights channel. Seems as though they already film it so it would just need editing.

[@rolandcox5162]

Someone is clearly paying him enough not to. Or is it a thing of how all of us can get stuck in a rudimentary process of not wanting to change. I've said the same thing, and it's one of the reasons I feel this podcast isn't way more of a bigger platform than it is. I don't know if it's more of a pride of owning your product and selling oppose to mass distribution and taking a cut of the percentage. I would like to watch though, all of it, not clips, the whole thing lol.

[@pricey4ever330]

Never smart outsourcing work or parts because they can charge whatever they want

[@imajhawk6146]

There must be some kind of parts competition. If the vendor suddenly can't meet the demand because of a contract issue on their side, surely someone else is lined up.

[@RoastBeefSandwich]

Those complaints are coming you know it will. Drivers and team owners will be hollering soon "we can't get the parts" but like magic at Speedweeks there will be 40 cars there.

[@timg2088]

Definitely agree. What happens if the manufacturers have production issues?

[@mikesmithey4882]

I would really like to see more doubleheader racing I would love to see them run the road course a short race on Saturday night and then the oval on Sunday and just shorten the race so together they are 500 Miles like 250 at 1 and 2:50 at the other

[@distanceofage]

Man 18" tire is not going to make racing better. Racing is better when the cars are harder to drive and control.

[@LEO027040]

I just want then to get rid of the chase. I hate the forced drama. It's pathetic. You let consistent results shine. Oh let's bring in a chase format they said.... Johnson And Chad.... Yes. Let's do it so we can destroy the compitition in the last 10 races

[@johnhaas2523]

The playoffs not going anywhere. Nascar is entertainment

[@shawnschaitel838]

Nope i love the thing

[@joshjarnagin3161]

Forced drama like the Winston Million and No Bull 5?

[@jameskennedy3365]

And you was the same one bitching about Matt Kenseth only winning one race and riding around 10th/12th every week the last 18 races because he had such a big points lead before they went 2 the chase weren't you? Lol

[@stephenbreen7570]

This is going to kill off a lot of jobs in the shops and reduce ingenuity.

[@sota_59]

And most importantly saves money

[@jayss10]

There will be things that go on you can be sure of that. Do not mistake yourself on that for one single minute. The difference is going to be the cost it costs to be innovative. The rich teams will have more resources to play in the gray safely.

[@dh2360]

I stopped watching NASCAR and now watching Freedom Factory racing with Cleetus McFarland racing actual stock cars.

[@flasher1663]

Can’t wait to see how those aluminum wheels hold up to scraping the wall

[@Tow_Sr.]

They won't. They will break , and sheers of aluminum Will either kill a driver. Or a poor fan. Ill bet my ........ on it. !!!

[@flasher1663]

Tow Sr. All down hill sinceSmokey Unick, Humpy Wheeler and chrome bumpers

[@glennpiller9417]

NASCAR has nanny stated the sport to death!

[@therabbi75]

This guy is full of it . Nascar has him in a gut hook. What makes racing racing is run what you "brung".

[@johnhaas2523]

Haha. Your wrong when your talking about racing that is entertainment

[@therabbi75]

@@johnhaas2523 Please excuse me John I forgot it's just a 'SHOW' not a race.

[@andypage9]

Putting a lot of shop crew guys out of work. Way to go NA$CAR.

[@johnhaas2523]

Teams and manufacturers all agreed on going this way to cut cost

[@RCampbell-y4b]

@@johnhaas2523 New you would stick your face in there Hass,hole The planet is waiting for you to do the right thing. Yaa 9 zip

[@ChuckHickl]

great episode. looking forward to the new cars!

[@joethompson5673]

Love the Days of thunder die cast!!!

[@grundyb]

Doe’s anyone know is the clutch a hydraulic one and how many clutch disc’s are being used?

[@twjohnson1203]

Remember the COT?? It’ll last about half the season and then they’ll be building cars for all the race tracks!

[@johnhaas2523]

Can't as Nascar said you can only have 7 active cars at any given time pre team and that you most use a chassis x number of races. Each chassis has like a vin number and Nascar scans that to keep track or the oss scans it only.

[@twjohnson1203]

When the top owners start griping about it, we'll see how long it lasts.

[@johnhaas2523]

@@twjohnson1203 hahaha

[@JacobTerherst]

Finally, we will see the Superbirds and Daytonas back on the track.

[@TracksideViews]

Currently one lug nut cost the teams $1.25 each and they don’t reuse them.

[@jerrysantos6484]

Grwat conversation. I am still lost but great conversation though.

[@Ever443]

Unfortunately all these changes will not really save money for the teams. Initially yes, as teams are already laying folks off due to the less needed to "build" a car, but they will add staff slowly back as they spend on R&D to find that edge. Have been doing that forever, because the big teams will spend as much as they need to make sure they are competitive and have an advantage. Racing never gets cheaper, it may slow down how fast money is spent and I guess you could call that a savings, short term so to speak. The big teams will still be fast and the smaller teams will still fill the field. Sadly NASCAR will be the ones that make the money as they "arrange" the chassis builder, body company, gearbox etc. If you dont think NASCAR is getting a kickback on this stuff, man you gotta be kidding. That's the way they have done business for the last 40 years.

[@Brooks22n]

They said ALL THIS Same things ( NOW we WON’T need different cars for different tracks ) when the “ Next Gen “ car came out in 07’ ( the cup car with that stupid rear wing ) 😁

[@75gdavis]

thats what i was thinking. wasnt that one of the biggest selling points about the cot being you could run the same car at every track? sounds like a gymic repeating itself

[@BrianBattles]

This is the kind of stuff I like to learn

[@basedgodstrugglin]

So the cup series’s now truly a spec series with freedom for car setup?

[@backcountryme]

It has been a spec series for years. This is just going to give the smaller teams a needed boost.

[@basedgodstrugglin]

@@backcountryme mostly spec. They could develop some parts on the cars.

[@lonnyself3920]

this is not a stock car it is a corporate car we will not buy it unless we can drive it that should be the new modo

[@tumbleweed1976]

Very educational. Those accents crack me up. Great job by all 🎈

[@AW-dq2oo]

Good luck bump drafting with this car

[@jamestone265]

I think after every race you unbolt your seat and go to the next track on Saturday and draw a number out of a hat 1-39 and that’s the car you get. NASCAR OWNS ALL THE CARS. They all have all the same Ilmor 396” engines like the truck. No hauler, no engineers, no shops. U put your Sponsors decals on and race. At the end of the race you take your drivers seat out get out a hair dryer and remove the sponsor decals go home and wait until next week.

[@DanWilkinsonjr]

Sounds like what SRX will eventually be.

[@gordjohnson70]

This would bring the true talent to the front. For years GREAT drivers have been stuck at the back in lesser cars.

[@jameshoagland9660]

This will be nascar's last car. Last nail in coffin.

[@billdavis3152]

Howmany will become unemployed by this move? Will some be able to go to work at chassis manufactures?

[@wakawaka2266]

Since NASCAR is in the mood for change why not go a step further and integrate an engine rev limiter so pit lane speed violations don't change the outcome of their product.

[@johnhaas2523]

Haha

[@Wooley689]

Chris is such a fun person to be around, he's a real nut.

[@grundyb]

Having the cars made the exact same way saves cost and will give the new teams a chance of joining the races.

[@acegarcia3719]

I wouldn't have gone as spec as Nascar did, I wish performance related parts like rearend, suspension and chassis stayed in the teams hands with a budget cap if neccausry, but some cuts had to be done as the current bussiness model that worked in the mid2000s is no longer sustainable without the money coming into the sport.

[@johnhaas2523]

No way to do such thing and make it so Hendrick got same as jgr or SHR.

[@acegarcia3719]

@@johnhaas2523 Well those related parts can still be manufactured by the teams to increase performance, but to lower costs some elements can be made spec similar to what F1 is doing starting next year.

[@rolandcox5162]

Something about this smells funny. Someone (Nascar) is controlling or making sure that these company's are charging properly? And if they want to charge more for the part they have to ask 2 years in advanced. Someone's making out on this and it ain't the race teams.

[@acegarcia3719]

You have to have price controls cause since it's a spec part their is no competition

[@rolandcox5162]

It's expensive as hell to make one, and cheaper to make a lot. But like he said, monopolizing where you can only by your parts from one place now creates zero competition and stifles the advancement of technology. Let alone it's illegal in America. So I guess we'll see how that goes.

[@happyjohn8256]

Why couldn’t a team make a part that looks the same but is superior in some way?

[@cademckee7276]

@@happyjohn8256 The parts have seals and other details that are hard to replicate, and the fine if you are found modifying one of those parts is massive

[@happyjohn8256]

@@cademckee7276thank you fir the response. I really don’t think I like the way this sport is going. No individualism nor creativity. The way everything is going - cheating was the spice that drove the original bootleggers and now we are all going to turn cute, prim, and proper? Bah, I say! Not a rebel sport anymore.

[@nddbulldog1]

IROC

[@stefanoberndorfer1771]

A totally wrong move in the totally wrong direction.

[@75gdavis]

wasnt one of the biggest selling points to the teams (besides safety) about the COT back in 2007 that you'd save a ton of money as a team owner because you could run the same car at every track? and how well has that worked out for them...they still build specialized cars for every type of track and probably spent even more money than they would have in R&D, simulations, and testing just trying to figure out how to make the new car go fast...sounds like a selling gymic repeating itself to me

[@johnhaas2523]

Teams now are limited on number of cars with the next gen and what can do to the cars. So with the limit and requirements have to use a chassis x number of races before can retire it they won't have cars just for road course. Teams might set 1 chassis a side for just road courses

[@michaelshepherd7572]

They can’t make their own chassis anymore, it’s a spec chassis everyone uses for every track.

[@robvanderkroft6515]

The f1 pit stop members are mechanics. Each mechanic looks after a different part of the car