Terramaster F4-424 Max NAS - Should You Buy (Review)

[@JRichardsonBoston]

Audio quality is 1000% better. I have had a challenge with your accent in the past but non-issue now. Crisp setup.

[@alch3mi5t.]

loving the new studio, goodbye broom cupboard!!!

[@syl764]

If only Synology would match this hardware (without drive HDD /SSD / RAM lock-in), I'd upgrade tomorrow.

[@aznhomig]

Synology's business model is shorting you on hardware while trying to maintain their arbitrary software walled ecosystem with overpriced branded hardware. Your only solution is DIY or buy a more powerful Nas with actual good hardware and run Xpenology on top of it if you want best of both worlds.

[@syl764]

@@aznhomig Yep - though I would pay $$$$. At this rate I'm like to get something neat / ready built from another manufacturer and put Unraid / TrueNAS on it.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

The time to do that was with the 423 and well they fumbled the ball and the competition ran for a touchdown. Rebadging old hardware was a total turn off...

[@protacticus630]

Nice new studio, keep going.

[@werecow68]

Thanks for the review Robbie. Also thanks for Karate Kid flashback. Brought a smile to my face.

[@nascompares]

Every...single...edit! I had the movie on rotation in my head for 3 days afterwards

[@prodeous]

Really happy on the mixing drive sized. That "TRAIID" feels like the Drobo's solution though, and happy someone has similar solution.

[@1Bujbuj]

After looking at this on their site and reading the Terramaster subreddit, i decided DIY is the way.

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

Could you please elaborate on that? E.g. If the price was lower, would you buy it? Assuming one would wipe TOS and use OMV/Unraid/TrueNAS Scale.

[@frogautistic]

Synology (for the less savvy) or DIY (for the more savvy) seems to be the dichotomy

[@greenhat7618]

@@frogautistictbh if qnap updates their 464 i don’t think it’s half bad

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

It could be worth noting that TOS does not support full disk encryption, only folder encryption. Folders however cannot be decrypted, so if you change your mind, files need to be copied out somewhere else.

[@efimovv]

Nice new studio! P.S. I already miss seagulls...

[@michaelbodenhoff7871]

I really wanted this, but the price difference from the F4-424 Pro was too big, and i'm happy about my choice. The CPU in the Pro is more than enough, and i don't have 10Gbe anyway, and adding the price of 3 10Gbe switches .... on the minus side, the MAX ships with TOS 6 , and the Pro doesn't, i thought it did as Terramaster says "New 2024 product lineup powered by TOS6 " and the pro came out in January 2024 , but TM says TOS6 should be out in 1-2 weeks

[@EmperorTerran]

I feel a good review would be where truenas, OMV, unraid, debian with casaOS... one of these... are put on terramaster appliance... how it goes, if there are issues, if one can count on that ability to make use of the HW without stock software...

[@jc57965]

have been running unraid on the base model F4-424 for a couple weeks now without any issues. takes about less than 10minutes to switch the thumb drives and can be with a simple phillps screwdriver. just have to make sure you are using a super small usb drive if using unraid for the boot drive. i like the samsung ultra fit for this

[@seanroberts5870]

Had some issues getting unraid to run (there's a thread about it on the unraid forums). Someone there found that if you edit the first line in the /syslinux/syslinux.cfg on your unraid usb stick to be: default Unraid OS It boots directly into unraid. Can confirm it works perfectly on my end after that fix.

[@HikaruGCT]

really good. i like it :) preatty solid way to do the video. great stuff.

[@mogelbar1020]

When will you test the F6-424 Max?

[@Mathieu.Verhoeven]

i'm looking for a Nas to run plex/file storage/containers/vms wondering if the f4-424 pro will be enough or better to just grab the max? any other possible reccomendations

[@45KevinR]

Aside. Thought for another video: the branded turnkey nas seem to make a point of supporting adding & growing storage over the life of the appliance. Some recent reading of mine suggests that the diy os (truenas, et al) don't make this easy or only do it in limited ways. It would be great to have one of your summary videos on this topic. "can you grow your nas".

[@Eclection]

Wendell from level1techs put 96gb of ram in his video. Also these companies need to add support for sas drives.

[@stclaws9580]

and how much extra are you willing to pay for that? are there a lot of people who would do the same?

[@Fluffy2Buffy]

People need to ve reminded of philosophy of use.. if SAS is required in your build your looking in the wrong place. This device is for bang for buck..

[@tvrtkomalkoc7395]

Hi. Did you find CPU/PCIe 4x4 nVME overheating in a small enclosure design for less-powerful CPU/nVMEs? Do nVMEs with heatsink fit under the hood? PCIe 4x4 nVME in my opinion requires a heatsink. Would you go with the Samsung 990Pro or Samsung 990Evo with this enclosure? Where I live the price difference between the two nVMEs is currently negligible. Thanks.

[@GizmoMaxx]

This... 0:29 1:32 2:46 3:50 4:55 .. and That's... 6:51 7:34 8:18 9:28 10:30 Every time you bring these Tunes up... The Editor Needs 2x a Pay Rise 😂

[@nascompares]

Luckily...I AM the editor (counts 5p pieces) OH YEAH, BABY!

[@danielgmur6486]

One thing i would also consider i heat. I highly doubt that CPU will be able to perform at it's full potential. I run a F424 Pro and the N305 on standard settings shoots up to 94°C with only moderate usage. Reason is the passiv cooler and little air flow. After tweaking the Bios settings and lowering turbo from 35W down to 18W it runs at acceptable temps with basically quiet fan settings. From that perspective i am not sure if it is worth even going for Max. I would say only if you are ready to play around with additional cooling, drilling holes and what not.

[@sgwyrick]

I'm afraid of Terramaster, I have 3 of them in the F4-220 series and have had one have a hardware failure and another not except a reset. It wasn't the drives, anyone know if or how to recover the data?

[@swashyhimself]

Sorry I’m very new, is the 10gbe ports irrelevant if my internet is 1gb? 😅

[@zenos9302]

tos 6 fw still has issues and updates not released for all devices. Devices f6 max series is also out of stock till somewhere in november 2024 and i assume they holding off stock cause of the firmware issues. Went with Ugreen as i was able to get a hold of one 6800 pro while not released yet here where i am. UGos working no problems atm

[@Yazeed99]

For plex the max seems overpowered for me. I'd love a 6-bay pro but it doesn't look like they're making one anytime soon, and they need to bring an 8-bay consumer model to compete with the upcoming ds1825+

[@rogerhalt3991]

First! This is a great unit, thanks for the video.

[@jc57965]

TOS 5.1 app center was extremely outdated with the apps selection I was surprised. i can maybe look the other way for a few versions behind but for example the docker engine was v20 and the current is now 27. also it look like many of the apps hadn't received updates in a few years most were around 2022. I picked up the base 424 model last prime day sale and within a couple days toss unraid on as i had a spare license and would suggest to anyone thinking of purchasing terramaster to do the same in installing a third party os.

[@casda1972]

Where do I buy a 'Rocking Out The Gate' T-Shirt?

[@nascompares]

Now THAT'S an idea...

[@casda1972]

It's the best part of every show!

[@vitalis]

The only people that should be buying NAS are those who work in a team environment and maybe those working with Macs. Freelancers should just use HDD as internal drives in a PC. This is from someone who had a Synology back then and backup and specially restoring times were impossible.

[@kjltube]

As a Mac user this is why I’ve stayed with my 5,1 cheese grater desktop as long as possible. The next step to a Mac Studio means I’ll probably just add an external usb disk array.

Why isn't anyone reviewing the F6-424 Max model?

[@zenos9302]

out of stock and fw issues might be the cause they holding off as peeps that bought it return it cause of the messy tos 6 os few weeks ago.

[@haunter90]

I had it 1 month ago and returned it, it's garbage unless you put TrueNAS on it instead.

@@zenos9302 In the absence of anything new from Synology for a while, I was hoping to get one of those (love the dual 10Gbe ports) as it's in stock on Amazon UK right now, but I guess I'll have to wait a bit more.

@@haunter90 Yeh, I'll definitely put another OS on it anyway. So is it just the OS issues, or some hardware issues as well?

[@haunter90]

I didn't get too much past the OS issues, imagine not having root access to your own device. Also had a lot of permissions issues and a bunch of other things.

[@weholmes5315]

Damn nice hardware and so tempting! But I just don’t want to give up my Synology software 😅 I’ll stick with the weak CPU and slow NICs on my NAS and use a mini PC for VMs.

[@ivanmalinovski7807]

There's always the Xpenelogy option for non-Synology boxes

[@JohnMuz1]

Power button back.? Not for me.

[@stclaws9580]

how often do you press power button on NAS?

[@NianzeuvomNde]

The Karate Kid Theme Musical 🥰🥰🥰

[@kicaj741]

I'll tell you a story you wont read on Amazon, etc because they would most likely delete my story. It took my 3 days to realize: behind a great hardware for a price for NAS stands full of flaws TOS 6.X and all its embeeded apps. Copying the 3TB to external drive - failed without clear log stating whats going on. Trying to backup my 350GB OneDrive stucks (fails) in the middle with no clear log on whats going on and possibility to restart it. Survivelance does not work while it worked flawlessly on my previous NAS. Flaws, flaws, flaws even on the level of pure copy of the data to external hdd or running things in parallel. Thus, unless you unraid it (but thats additional cost unless you bought (or download) a license for it) this is extremely unrealiable piece of hardware/software. Shame for Terramaster to deliver such product with so many flaws in their software. Risk of getting your data lost is incredible.

[@gee7092]

Hardware is great but Terramaster has history of being hacked in the past. Great if you are installing 3rd party OS.

[@tdchewy]

only 4 Drives? what's the point? I'll never understand the point of a tiny NAS, just mount the drives in your PC case.

[@stclaws9580]

My PC case runs Windows. _No, i don't think i will_ run NAS in my PC case.