Nathan A. Jacobs - What is Philosophy of Art?

[@chrisdiver6224]

Much of what we see now in the top notch galleries is clever or striking or unusual but is not art because you look at once and you "get it", the "artists" intention. Genuine art is inexhaustible. You can experience it over and over and it retains it's enlivening effect on you. This enlivening quality is from an intuitive power within the work.

[@f.austin]

do not share fully Jacobs's opinions but respect and appreciate how well thought out and well expressed it is - great "food" for further discussion… hahah

[@briboker]

We have 2 "art worlds". One is market-driven whose center is in the private gallery, fundamentally a high-end shop that needs to make a profit to survive (or provide good enough tax deductions)...and the art fair. Its medium is painting, printmaking and drawing, commodities easily traded. Its characteristics are"skill", mastering a technique and managing the form. The other "art world" focuses on major institutions such as public galleries/art museums, biennales and universities. Its medium is... anything. Its main characteristics are concepts. (Whereas art may be a branch of philosophy.) Sometimes there are crossovers between these two camps. The bottom line is that Duchamp changed the discourse and definition of art over 100 years ago. The technique is after the fact, but nevertheless essential (even with readymades). Art is either ontological or the stuff of dreams. Or both

[@losgryfog]

I think all creation and pattern has a degree of art, but there are levels within that.

[@jamesmckenzie4572]

The actualization of our ephemeral thoughts. Which thoughts are worth the time and effort is the prerogative of the artist. I think that's about it.

[@paradamaparusha8694]

If art is teleological you must tell us where it is going! Also, I agree with the comment below: by Rajendra Tayya: "Science is owing to necessity. Art is spontaneous behaviour. " Jacobs is talking about craft not art in the modern sense. In any case, I would have liked to see his art work.

[@physicstheoryofmetinaridasir]

So good discussion. Art is resisting not being a machine. Art is the deepest contemplation experience, the most powerful act for a human, perhaps making religion born. Caesar's right to Caesar; an artist makes art in action, in experiencing this is the whole profit of an artist, the remainder is an artistic product for us.

[@nuqwestr]

Art is often less, not more.... something for you to consider.

[@Nouvellecosse]

Philosophy of art is one of my top 3 favourite sub classes I took in university. I've always had a fascination with the field of art and aesthetics.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Philosophy are by product of art. Philosophy liking with are are baseless concept of art.

[@nuqwestr]

Art = Coherent Resonance, even when the object is dissonant or imperfect, and why the object often transcends time and culture.

[@rileyhoffman6629]

"A first rate soup is more creative than a second rate painting." (Abraham Maslow) The determining criteria is the hard part.

[@Robinson8491]

good and technical talk, and simple (and cohesive) so I like it. Also namedrop Aristotle and you got my attention

[@SuccessMindset2180]

The meaning of the art is expressing ideas

[@dynamic9016]

Really appreciate this video.

[@r2c3]

Comparing a cave painting with a VR game today might sound strange but yet they still share a common artistic drive that is not much different from writing a single sentence :) which conveys information across both space and time...

[@haroldpearson6025]

By and large cave paintings are technical drawings. Hunters returned home and described the days hunt, explaining how they hunted and killed the mammoth.

[@r2c3]

@@haroldpearson6025 many modern paintings depict both domestic and wild animals but I find it very unlikely that these modern artists preyed upon their models though :) ... in my opinion, the level of detail in some cave paintings and the spray of a hand as to imprint its form on the wall, can very easily qualify as an early aesthetic art form...

[@haroldpearson6025]

@@r2c3 modern artists do not have to hunt for their food. If I aske, an artist to explain art they will tell me: "Only an artist can understand art". Art only continues because the rest of us have created the environment for them to do so. Look what happended during the pandemic it was the first thing to go to the wall. Art is very nice but it does not keep the lights on, the refuse collected, the buses running or develop new medicines etc. I do not think that the cave dwellers considered themselves artists. They were to busy keeping warm and feeding themselves.

[@r2c3]

@@haroldpearson6025 i see your point but I think that all people are artistic in their own ways :) the rest is just a matter of preference(good, bad, and everything else in between) ...

[@HENRYIII003]

AI is now producing art that makes humans worried and jealous, yet Legal Eagle tells me that only human-created art can qualify for a copyright. I love framing problems around AI, it feels like I'm hacking philosophy with a functional backdoor.

[@TheRochy09]

Art is what the experts say it is

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Wrong.Art are abstracting reality that though paint are opening mind and emoticon or feeling to reality. Guys Not undetstood are or Philosophy that he show are ignorant rethoric.

[@andreyusin3689]

Yes, which doesn't necessarily mean that THEY know.

[@chayanbosu3293]

Bhagbat Gita is the best literature where God Sri Krishna says about philosophy, art and liberation from material bondage.

[@DanWilan]

Art is good

[@robertmiller2367]

I take it he missed the banana duck taped to the wall exhibit which sold for a disappointing 120,000

[@fieldandstream9362]

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[@abelincoln8885]

Only an intelligence (like Man) ... has free will & a nature ... to think & do whatever he wants ... and pay thousands for a banana & duct tape. Law, Science, Commerce & Arts are simply abstract Functions from the mind of an intelligence. Everything in the Universe is an abstract or physical Function ... made by an intelligence with a Nature & innate abilities or talents. The Universe is a work of art, design & engineering.

[@hamsandwich1860]

Art is basically the consolation/coping mechanism for people who cant understand basic math/physics and need to feel like they arent worthless, even though deep down they know they are, just like pure art is.

[@Bassotronics]

Every time I look at my neighbor’s face, it seems to be an ugly work of art.

[@rajendratayya8400]

Science is owing to necessity. Art is spontaneous behaviour.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Gibberish. Science show up though model true possible phisc. Meanwhile philosophy are out ceticism first Science questions.

[@abelincoln8885]

Science & Art are abstract Functions from the mind of an intelligence. Only an intelligence ( like Man) ... has free will, a Nature, and unique abilities or talents than can be used for good or evil. Only an intelligence ( like Man) ... abstract & physical Functions ... with clear purpose FORM, function & DESIGN. Everything in the Universe ... is an abstract or physical Function ... including the Man( an intelligence).

[@robbowman8770]

Nonsense. We don't need to understand black holes, but we want to.

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Art is expression, both active and passive. As one who experiences is effected and from affection can express. Art is an expressive unfoldment from being acted upon and acting -- motion, generation, transformation; experience. The act of Art is a constructive activity of energy, emotion, experience. To express is to embrace: let what comes come, and to let go of what goes. There's multiple forms of art. I myself prefer a -- higher or more developed -- finer, pure, intellect, contemplative, abstract art. Rock n roll or rap, and then there's classical -- Vibration and energy. Boxing and mma, or ballet -- physical and arduous. One is more course, the other fine and pure. However, Art, we are influenced by the Art of God: cosmos, stars, gods, laws, divinity, intellect, nature, elements, being, emotion, experience, contemplation, life, color, contrasts, wonder, imagination, acts, seasons, motions, transformations. Art -- experience and expression, from different states, perspectives, Art is applied in everything we do especially if we are passionate; art is a creative & intellectual quality as if a reverence and a respect for all life, seeking to do the best we can do, a sense of gratitude -- a cooperative activity between the participant(Artist), participating in this realm and appreciating so to add a finishing touch , as if working with God side by side, an intimate relationship, the one within. Art isn't only experiential, it is the flow, motion, generation of reality, and perspective had from spiritual growth may reckon the higher beauties in the images here, thus art work becoming more Divine. Heart is the seat of the Soul, where emotion is, the etheric body, the Soul, and when one acknowledges the virtues, divinites, beauties, higher intelligible realities, are they inspired and an aspirant after, and enthusiasm occurs, the essence or life force overflowing,... Everything is expression, from wars, disputes, bad events, and only when one's being acknowledges the higher realities does expression become Art and constructive and divine so inspiring others as a compass directed towards goodness and meaning -- art is having found to some degree the meaning. They say in this world today: there's those of order, law, society....and then there's those of art, music, creativity. 2 boxes of types of people. The Truth is, those of the high Arts are of a higher, divine order than those in the world who makes these hedious laws of today. The beauties, intellect, wisdom, understanding, meaning comes from the higher intelligible realities. Our world leaders are narcissistic, they have no emotions, and there's no goodness in their words. The speration, the two boxes of people above I mention, are designed by evil men trying to keep Divinity, God, righteousness, Intellect, Reason, creativity, Life, out from the governmental systems of this world today. Art is divine.

[@ladyincarnate9314]

How are you ever going to get closer to truth when you have spoken to like 5 women in the whole history of this channel?

[@donnacabot3550]

U cant eat art.

[@nuqwestr]

An "artful" libertarian, how funny, but good.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Mr. Natha not knows how distinguido philosophy and art. Certainly if knows philosophy he declines knows set because philosophy definitions are question from ceticism in real world. Philosophy doubt are question reality not such art only. He are confusion in his rethoric.