Nathan Dudley vs Edward Dalcour Godhead Debate (Oneness versus Trinity)

CHRISTIAN MONOTHEISM
"Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4).
"God is one" (Galatians 3:20).
There is one God. There is only one God. This doctrine is central to the Bible message, for both the Old Testament and the New Testament teach it plainly and emphatically. Despite the simplicity of this message and the clarity with which the Bible presents it, many who believe in the existence of God have not understood it. Even within Christendom many people, including theologians, have not comprehended this beautiful and essential message. Our purpose is to address this problem, and to affirm and explain the biblical doctrine of the oneness of God.
Monotheism Defined
The belief in only one God is called monotheism, which comes from two Greek words: monos, meaning alone, single, one; and theos, meaning God. Anyone who does not accept monotheism can be classified as one of the following: an atheist who denies the existence of God; an agnostic - one who asserts that the existence of God is unknown and probably unknowable; a pantheist - one who equates God with nature or the forces of the universe; or a polytheist - one who believes in more than one God. Ditheism, the belief in two gods, is a form of polytheism, and so is tritheism, the belief in three gods. Among the major religions of the world, three are monotheistic: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. Within the ranks of those labelling themselves Christian, however, there are several divergent views as to the nature of the Godhead. One view, called trinitarianism, asserts that there are three distinct persons in the Godhead - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost - but yet one God. Within the ranks of trinitarianism, one can discern two extreme tendencies. On the one hand, some trinitarians emphasize the unity of God without having a carefully developed understanding of what is meant by three distinct persons in the Godhead. On the other hand, other trinitarians emphasize the threeness of the trinity to the point that they believe in three self-conscious beings, and their view is essentially tritheistic. In addition to trinitarianism, there is the doctrine of binitarianism, which does not classify the Holy Ghost as a separate person but asserts belief in two persons in the Godhead. Many monotheists have pointed out that both trinitarianism and binitarianism weaken the strict monotheism taught by the Bible. They insist that the Godhead cannot be divided into persons and that God is absolutely one. These believers in strict monotheism fall into two classes. One class asserts that there is only one God, but does so by denying, in one way or another, the full deity of Jesus Christ. This view was represented in early church history by the dynamic monarchians, such as Paul of Samosata, and by the Arians, led by Arius. These groups relegated Jesus to the position of a created god, subordinate god, junior god, or demigod. The second class of true monotheists believes in one God, but further believes that the fulness of the Godhead is manifested in Jesus Christ. They believe that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are manifestations, modes, offices, or relationships that the one God has displayed to man. Church historians have used the terms modalism and modalistic monarchianism to describe this view as held by such early church leaders as Noetus, Praxeas, and Sabellius. In the twentieth century, those who believe in both the indivisible oneness of God and the full deity of Jesus Christ frequently use the term Oneness to describe their belief. They also use the terms One God and Jesus Name as adjectives to label themselves, while opponents sometimes use the misleading or derogatory designations "Jesus Only" and "New Issue." (The label "Jesus Only" is misleading because to trinitarians it implies a denial of the Father and the Holy Spirit. However, Oneness believers do not deny the Father and Spirit, but rather see Father and Spirit as different roles of the One God who is the Spirit of Jesus.) In summary, Christendom has produced four basic views of the Godhead: (1) trinitarianism, (2) binitarianism, (3) strict monotheism with a denial of the full deity of Jesus Christ, and (4) strict monotheism with an affirmation of the full deity of Jesus Christ, or Oneness. Having surveyed the range of human beliefs about the Godhead, let us look at what the Word of God - the Bible - has to say on the subject. The classic expression of the doctrine of one God is found in Deuteronomy 6:4. "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is one LORD." This verse of Scripture has become the most distinctive and important statement of faith for the Jews. They call it the Shema..

[@Superman88_8]

Colossians chapter two 2 verse 9 nine [ In him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily...] In Jesus Christ name Amen 🙏 🙌 ✨️

[@bobjames3748]

I tried to get Ed dalcour on his own website to defend his non-existent Trinity in the second century he called it revisionism when I proved that Monarchians were leading the church that Ignatius and Clement were not trinitarians but they were monarchians per their own writings. Tertullian close around 2:10 AD where Monarchians were startled at the dispensation of the three and one and they said that Tertullian was a preacher of two and three gods see AGAINST PRAXEAS III. ED DaLCour CALLED This REVISIONISM WHEN I SAID THAT ORIGEN HELD THE GREAT MULTITUDE OF BELIEVERS IN HIS DAY NOT IN THE CLASS THAT HE THOUGHT in his mind, BUT THAT WAS IN THE SECOND CLASS WHICH WAS THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS GOD TO THEM. That was revisionism. And Origen said they were the Great multitude. More revisionism. Adolf Harnack History of Dogma volume V Stated that the Monarchians held a succession of Bishops from Eletherus , Victor Zephyrinus and Callistus, how is that possible? that's at the end of the second century and here was monarchians fully in charge of the Bishopric of Rome , of Antioch with Ignatius of Smyrna with Noetus of Africa with Sabellius, who then went to Rome. JND Kelly, said that the Conservatives in Rome were Monarchians and named Zephyrinus and Callistus and he stated they antedated the Apologists or the developers of the Trinity/Triunity. There thought was before the conjuring up a triad, from Ancient Creed Paganism.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

They choose their own delusion.

[@unwmk]

This is a true saying, there is one God and none other but HE, and we shall serve HIM, not THEM.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

True.

[@unwmk]

If you want to know the mystery of the Godhead, this is what the Lord have revealed to me in the scriptures. Far too long people have not understand the God we serve, so this is the message to open up your eyes. He that hath an ear, let him hear! Mark 12:28‭-‬32 KJV 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: Isaiah 35:4‭-‬6 KJV 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. Luke 2:11 KJV For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. WE ONLY HAVE ONE SAVIOUR AND ONE LORD AND JESUS CHRIST IS HE. Matthew 11:2‭-‬6 KJV 2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Isaiah 45:21‭-‬23 KJV 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord ? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. ref. John 1:1-2, 14, John 8:42, ref. Isaiah 55:11 KJV Philippians 2:10‭-‬11 KJV 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. John 1:1-2, 14 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:8‭-‬9 KJV 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Psalms 62:7 KJV In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God. Hosea 13:4‭, ‬9 KJV 4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me. 5 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help. 1 Corinthians 10:1‭-‬4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 2 John 1:3‭, ‬7 KJV 3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 1 John 5:1 1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. With that said, Jesus Christ is our Lord but he is subject to the Father, for the head of Christ is God. The spirit which is Christ manifested itself in the flesh, so the man was not God, but the Spirit in him, that was our Lord and our God. We do not have two God, only one. When we say Jesus Christ is Lord, that is to the glory of the Father, for he was the one occupying that body...It is a mystery. Not every one will get it. Colossians 1:19 KJV For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; Matthew 28:19 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That was all God. He is the Father who created all things things. God was manifest in flesh, working in a body bearing the title Son, and when he was glorified, bear the title Holy Ghost. That is all God. God sent the Son which was his own Word behold as of the only begotten of the Father. For Jesus said, John 7:29 KJV But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me. John 8:42 KJV Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Isaiah 55:11 KJV So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. ref. Isaiah 45:22-23 JESUS WAS THAT WORD! By honouring the Son even as we honour the Father according to John 5:23 is not a sin because you're giving glory and honour to the one he proceeded forth and came from. The Father never died, the flesh died, which was and is the Son of God. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And remember, the preaching of the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:36 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:45‭-‬47 KJV 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN. Ephesians 4:5‭-‬6 KJV 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. This is a message for the people of God, Jesus Christ is God, again, I say Jesus Christ is God. Look to him and be ye saved. And as concerning you, Trinitarians. The Trinity is a lie, your doctrine is a myth! This is a true saying, there is one God and none other but he! Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. Isaiah 44:24 KJV Thus saith the Lord , thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thanks for the share.

[@Leosplumbing24seven]

Amen. Hallelujah!!!

[@ktcarroll4723]

Good discussion with scripture to back it up. I know schooling may help but when your schooling by men in a college contradicts scripture you are not on good foundation

[@anneviggiano3801]

Excellent!

[@bobjames3748]

Excellent.

[@jamesmuse8866]

“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.” ‭‭John‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬-‭21‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭KJV‬‬ These two verses easily debunk a trinity… can’t get around this.

[@setapart3452]

To all Trinitarians: You said that, Let us make man shows that there is 3 and God was speaking to the trinity. The word Us means anything more than 1, right ? Ok ! How did you determine, translate or convert the word Us to 3 ? Seeing that the word Us means more than one, why could not the word Us mean 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 100. All these numbers are more than 1. How did you get 3 ? Scripture please..

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I doubt if anyone who is serious about the trinity could even explain it out, as it's a supposedly impossible mystery to understand from God, and one would go crazy figuring it out according to early trinitarians. Thanks for standing up for the truth.

[@setapart3452]

You are so welcome. The truth always prevails and keeps us from the spirit of confusion.

[@joshuaboggus8341]

Three is assumed because three persons are revealed as one God in scripture. There is no indication of more than that any where. If US does not mean more than one then what does it mean? The plurality of majesty does not work here. That concept did not even exist until it was used by royalty of Europe hundreds of years after the NT was closed.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Josh you need to study this better (2 Tim 2:15) the Holy One of Israel (In Isaiah 21 times) said to his angels whom he created (Isa. 44:24) this in Isaiah 6:1-8 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. Now, angels desire to preach the gospel (1 Pet 1:12). God spoke tto his heavenly host the angels or train, who will preach for us. The Jews also referred to Gen 1:26 as God talking to the angels as the word Elohim (Pronounced L-O-Heem) means mighty this: Divine ones, superhuman beings including God and angels Psalm 8:6 (De Che Br; but angels ᵐ5 ᵑ6 ᵑ7 Ew; God, RV and most moderns) Genesis 1:27 (if with Philo ᵑ7 Jerome De Che we interpret נעשה as God's consultation with angels; compare Job 38:7).

[@bobjames3748]

​@@joshuaboggus8341This isn't true, the Jews held this idea. Plural of Deliberation is also stated by them for Gen 1:26 and the other us passages, yet a gentile Tritheist will tell the Jews they don't know what they were told. Yeah them dumb Jews including Jesus who never mentioned one thing about Trinity, persons,but did say "WE KNOW WHAT WE WORSHIP , SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS. Yet them Jews were not even close to knowing this triad God . Know the Trinitarian church has the blood of millions, the Catholics according to C.S.Lovett says between 50-68 million, half of that is still a enormous amount. Yeah Trinies want to pretend they didn't kill 30,000 in Munster Germany who were Monarchians called Anabaptists and the many sects of such. This was done on June 25th, 1535. Michael Servetus burned and 80 others killed by the Church of Geneva.

[@joerod5621]

Right from the beginning, his opening statement, Dalcour appeals, to the JW’s concept of pre-incarnate Jesus, being the angel of the Lord is Jesus / Michael? And isn’t that contradicting Hebrews1:5? And how does it work when the angel of the Lord freed Peter out of prison? Did Jesus make another appearance after ascending? Aren’t they all angels of the Lord? Dalcour might as well use 1 Thessalonian 4:16 The Lord will descend with a loud voice of an archangel …that’s a verse JWs use to prove Jesus is an angel!!! We are both one person & one being!!! Don’t know where Dalcour went to school? 😢

[@azulthamourtiw3669]

I think the trinitarian man is full of pridness, he is trying to intimidate his opponent by the knowledge of Greek, he the only way for him to look ok, he don't know that the KJV doesn't need the translation to Hebrew or Greek.

[@globalimpactministries766]

Brother Dudley did a good job presenting scripture but it is obvious that Brother Dudley is not a skilled debater like brother Roger Perkins. Dr. Dalcour should have debated Roger Perkins. I will be debating Edward Dalcour in LA on January 6th, at 7:00 pm. Anyone interested in attending can contact us on our Contact Page at ApostolicChristianFaith .com I promise that our Oneness audience will not be disappointed.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thank you for the update. Hopefully, people that see this here will be able to attend. And if not, then everyone who sees this please pray for this beloved brother in Christ, that God would strengthen him and give him wisdom, understanding and knowledge of what to say, and when to see it during this debate. My God provide and assist in all things is my prayer for you.

[@globalimpactministries766]

Thanks for agreeing with us in prayer. We are believing that this debate will be an astounding success in persuading Trinitarians to the truth of the gospel.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I'll be there, if at all possible, to support you. But if not due to unforeseen circumstances, then you know my prayers are always on your behalf. God bless you.

[@globalimpactministries766]

Thank you brother but you really should not spend the money. We will be sending you info about the debate via email. God bless!

[@Max-cq8pu]

I believe Deut 6 : 4 There is only one God. The trinity is not from God but from men. The bible does not teach that. Men did. Read Ephesians 4 : 4, 6 and 1Timothy 2 : 5 Gal 3 : 20 The father sent his son Jesus to save us by his life, crucifixion, death and resurection. Now he is alive and seated upon the throne of his father ruling as God (with his name, power and majesty) The son inherited the throne and power of God. Matthieu 28 : 18 / Rev 3 : 21 Jesus said he is God Rev 22 : 13 / Rev 1 : 17 / John 14 : 8, 9. He is both Lord and savior. Lord = Judge of the living and of the dead (The body of Jesus is the body of God, because he is God incarnate) Savior = God's servant and unique son who paid the price for our sins The word of God reveals Jesus as God almighty (and not only messiah and son of God obeying his father). John 1 : 1, 3 / 1 : 14 and Col 1 : 19 / 2 : 9 and 1 Timothy 3 : 16. Christ is the mystery of God. Only those who are born from the spirit of God can comprehend it. John 3 : 5, 6. 1 cor 2 : 14, 15. He is David' s shepherd in psalm 23 and our shepherd also in john 10 : 11 and hebrew 13 : 20 He is the God of the OT who became human because he loves us. Not another God, not a triune God. The Holy spirit is the spirit of God 2 cor 3 : 17 and also the spirit of Jesus act 16 : 6, 7 / 1 peter 1 : 11/phil 1 : 19

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thank you Marti for your comment and testimony.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Not Scriptural. Some 7,000 verse call Him one. Nowhere is anything but the HOLY ONE. Trinity (From Greek Trinitas or three gods in unity), Mariology (Mary worship, goes back to Semiramis) and Pontifex Maximus (Pope for short, a pagan title that means the great bridge builder between the gods and men) all comes from Catholicism. Jesus said men like you are following that traditions men that take away and make void God's word (Ma 7:13). The trinity was invented by the Catholics and adopted as doctrine in 325 and reaffirmed in 381. The major contributor named Gregory of Nyssa said this of how the idea came about. "In thinking upon the trinity, we came upon the trinity..." He was one third of the three cappadocians who help to formulate the Platonic Greek triad of gods in unity. It comes from Plato's work of Timaeus, and is false doctrine. People who love not the truth will receive strong delusions such as this, and are carried about of every wind of doctrine. You have a form of god, but deny the power thereof, it all resides in Jesus (Mt 28:18). Sir, you are not a christian, but part of the pack of wolves who seek to devour the sheep. You are deceived. Our conversation is thus ended as your lack of knowledge and desire for this idolatry and delusion will destroy your soul (Hos 4:6).

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Unfortunately the doctrine of original sin in Christianity comes from Augustine. It's basically the idea that everyone inherited sin. Nothing in the word of God says that except Ps 51. We all are born into a world with sin in it; but it's not inherited. The word never states that. However, in James we find For Him that knows to do good, and does it not, to him it's sin. All unbelief is sin. A baby cannot believe. One must have knowledge between good and evil before he or she becomes accountable. I'm pressed on time, but I can defend what the word of God says about sin. It's not inherited though. Thank you for your words.

[@bobjames3748]

@@Max-cq8pu see, it's MYSTERY BABYLON the GREAT ,the Mother of Harlots, which encompasses the entire Trinitarian movement, be it Roman or Eastern Catholic or Protestant's. Jews, Jesus, Apostles and Disciples never took the time to tell us of a three entity godhead, that is fact. Ed, like James White think they know more than the people who have us the English Translation of the versions we have. They even pretend that the Trinity is revealed in OT, but Jews rejected that and Jesus could well have stated at least a thimble full of the Trinity if there was such. He didn't.

[@luigibayot7488]

The word "us"... let us make man in our own image, Doesn't mean there are three of them. Since then God is with the angels

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Exactly.

[@enriquetasuazo9343]

When He said Us , He is referring to the wisdom of God. Just like in zecariah 12:10

[@Superman88_8]

Pentecostals called Modalism by some people But regardless of what people say about them They simply really know who God is Jesus Christ Only One FORM Lord God by himself alone King of kings and Lord of Lords an This is the true God ...

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Amen.

[@azulthamourtiw3669]

Going from God said let (us) make man in our image, and at the and of his understanding of the trinity.we found out that he have God was talking to two person but not only another one?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

The Jews always said that God was talking to the angels in Genesis 1:26, as he did in Isaiah 6. Elohim can mean God and angels.

[@bobjames3748]

The Who and the What doctrine is just man-made fancy there is nothing in scripture even close they have to come up with this idea because there is no way to explain what they believe. Does it matter if you have three who's and one what or three whats and one who. None of it makes any sense when you get two and three God and you're trying to pawn it off as one God here's the problem Ed delcore does not believe that Jesus Christ our Lord and savior is the Supreme Deity. He only believes he's a deity of three that makes up his deity.

[@bobjames3748]

That 8 minute ending by dalcour is nothing but polytheism tritheism . He rolls around terms as if they're biblical god the son and god the Holy Ghost, Eternal Son which is also not biblical. Every time he uses the word persons three persons, first person ,second person, third person is not biblical text. Trinitarians like Ed Dalcour push this idea that there is a face to face situation in John 1:1, yet pros ton theon in 3 other place in the N.T. translates it as in things pertaining to God, which is our position about the Word. The idea thought, expression of God . What is amazing during his ending when speaks of how honorable Dudley was , but I want all to know, there was nothing honorable about Catholic or Protestant's in how they burned at the stake Monarchians and others, they drowned, beheaded, stole their property, wiped out cities or regions. It makes me sick when they speak about being polite or working together, when In fact I believe many of these would be trying to kill us today, if there wasn't now laws setup to prevent them, especially Mother of the the Harlots.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

It's good to hear from someone who really knows the truth. Few and far between. God bless you.

[@bobjames3748]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful I tried getting Ed Dalcour a few times to discuss points, wrote him recently and he called historical truths, those even stated by Trinitarians, historians and not Oneness, both modern and of course Tertullian and Origen in ancient time and he called it revisionism. They don't want to see or hear about the Monarchians being the majority, holding Bishoprics across the Empire. How much info is in the Vatican is unknown, but I imagine they have writings of Monarchians, lists of the dead and who knows what they've done.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Consider that to the victor goes the spoils. the only portion we have is what the enemy said about the loser in this case. Rome may have many secrets. The important thing is that we have the word of God, that cannot be denied. Yes, we have a few documents like Against Busybody (Contra Praxes) and others, but these fragments only reveal so much. We don't have Sabellian's words or much of anything that was not either destroyed or burned. In the end, the only thing that will endure forever is the word of God. God bless.

[@bobjames3748]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful Two of the oldest writings in the Post Apostolic Father is IGNATIUS letters and according to Lightfoot and Harmer the middle recension is considered the best, the Shorter is a abridged version and the longer a most likely added to Catholic fraud ( my words not theirs). According to Virginia Corwin he was Monarchian and when you read it, It certainly looks so. Clement's writings the 2nd one is a fraud and the first is not Trinitarian by any means ( it actually doesn't go into the godhead really). Trinitarians like to see F,A,HS and then say there is the Trinity, not understanding that describing the different roles, modes, ways of Jesus doesn't make persons or specifically 3 persons. Note that the Trinity must be developed, it isnt taught and nowhere in 1st century Bible do we see any such thing they speak of. 2nd century is subordinationalism and not the Trinity, but a usurper to Monarchianism seen in the above writings and Hermas and towards the mid to late 2nd century held by Bishops of Rome and Praxes, Noetus, Sabellius, Epigonus, Cleomenes ( and apparently they didn't write or all their writings destroyed for a reason). Only their enemies worked survives and they were not part of the majority in 2nd or 3rd centuries

[@natgenesis5038]

If we’re confused about Him ,why don’t we ask God to explain Himself ?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Good answer Nat.

[@MrChemenger]

True that from the English translation you will see that God is triune but a pastor that cannot read and write the Hebrew and Greek that's unacceptable.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Look Conrad despite the fact that the word of God neither mentions a trinity, nor implies one according to the Catholic creeds made up over 300 years after all the apostles died. If God is a trinity why did He lie when he called himself the Holy One in Isaiah some 21 plus times? anyhow, I don't even need anything but history to refute your absurd and ridiculous claims. Here's the truth. “The Christian Bible, including the New Testament, has no trinitarian statements or speculations concerning a trinitary deity.”-Encyclopædia Britannica. “The doctrine of the trinity . . . is not a product of the earliest Christian period, and we do not find it carefully expressed before the end of the second century.”-Library of Early Christianity-Gods and the One God. “In order to articulate the dogma of the Trinity, the [Catholic] Church had to develop her own terminology with the help of certain notions of philosophical origin.”-Catechism of the Catholic Church. The true church worships only the one true God. You're simply a tare.

[@seanchaney3086]

There is no confusion. Both Modalism and Arianism is false teaching. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God, and are All distinguished, and All eternal. This is the Substance of The Holy Trinity. (Matthew @-20; Luke @-22; Hebrews 13:8)

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Your word mean nothing, rather God's word which calls him a HOLY ONE of Israel over 21 times means everything. Holy One of Israel. A name for the Savior used 34 times in the Old Testament, most frequently by Isaiah, who cites it 28 times. God will judge us by His word, not by your Greek philosophy. I'm created in God's image, having a spirit, body and mind, am I a triad in unity or a trinity? Negative. These scripture verses are Rhema ones from God to show you that He's one, as His word says. "Yes, again and again they tempted God, And limited the Holy One of Israel." Ps. 78:41 Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed? Against whom have you raised your voice and lifted your eyes in pride? Against the Holy One of Israel! 2 Kings 19:22

[@purplepunch9223]

13 “I was watching in the night visions, And behold, like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him. 14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom Which shall not be destroyed.

[@th-rd2xh]

When cN we have a debate with another movement (The Father and His Son (2)

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Most people are Trinitarians (Catholics, Protestants), then then are many monotheists (UPC, WPF, ect.), but a good amount of Arians (Yahweh Restoration Movement) as well. Some of the Arian baptize in Jesus' name.

[@th-rd2xh]

I need a debate or direction on how to get the right information tho thir movement (The Father and His Sons.. ONE Elohim (Father and His Son... But now it is 2...?)

[@sancraft8718]

God = Spirit, The Holy Spirit = Spirit. Jesus = God manifested in the flesh; 100% human, 100% Deity. How many ‘persons?’ 🤔 The LORD our God is one.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

God is one

[@toussaintsmith4325]

God is a person? Once you truly answer that, you’ll believe that trinity doesn’t exist

[@kevinlove2426]

God is Love because of the relationship within the Godhead Love is not selfish

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

God is love. Kevin you have a great last name.

[@bobjames3748]

Ed is a Tritheist, pure and simple, doesn't hold Jesus as the Supreme Deity. He doesnt actually have a understanding of us and how we see Jesus in the OT as the Deity dwelling in yhe angel of the Lord, but not as the Son, because the Son had not been yet begotten, the son had not been born. Where us that 3rs owrson in John 1:1? Why can't Ed tell us who or what Gid is in John 1:1. Pros ton Theon means " in things pertaining to God , that means intimacy, not a second person or 2nd god as Ed is actually saying. Heb 2:17, Heb 5:1. In things pertaining to God is saying in the idea, mind, expression. Ed does believe it is 1 god with God ,he even stated so. John did not hold The Word as a seperate being aka person. There was no glory , until he was slain, he wasn't slain from the foundation, that was a idea, that was God's plan to come and where Christ has that glory, it has been with God. Jesus is the Gid, he is the creator, not As a Son! Listen and hear Ed say YHWH with YHWH, yet the Bible says there is one YHWH and he cannot figure out the language that the Jews understood. In Jn 1:1, he says there is God with God, again, he holds to more than 1 God. Ed will not say JESUS IS THE SUPREME GOD! NO, HE CANT, HE IS ONLY A PART OF HIS DEITY, but back around 200 a.d. Tertullian said he was called a preacher of two gods and three gods. Ed with his running to Greek, just decided like a Catholic to tell us, that our English Bible isn't adequate enough. James White a false teacher too, does the same. We can't trust their translating. Walter Martin lied about this same stuff, saying Uparkon meant eternally existing, it didn't, pros ton theon in its other usages meant " in things pertaining to God in Hb2:17 and 5:1.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

One thing many people fail to see is that scripture only speaks of a holy one some fifty times. The trinity term, god the son, eternal son, god the holy spirit aren't in it and we are to live by every word of God. Thus it is a self refuying teaching. Blessings in Jesus name.

[@bobjames3748]

@@CalledChosenandFaithfulA Major Weakness for Trinitarians is their History, 2nd century leaves then a big hole, the Trinity is developed over that century, the people then, did not teach what the later Trinitarians and today's teach. It is filled with excommunicated, and subordinationalists that were not Trinitarians, it has Philosophers and not Apostles as their men, but they ain't their men, they didn't teach the Trinity, didn't use the term, held Jesus in a 2nd junior God or subordinate role and Greek Philosophy was their ideology, not Biblical ideas from Hebraic Apostolic men. Further the History of murder, torture, stealing property, silencing Monarchians and others who didn't believe Catholicism as it would be called, and then in the 16th century the PROTESTANTS, daughters/harlots of Mother religion. That is a godless paganism they follow, not Christianity.

[@charlesmoon2388]

YAHWEH IS ONE AND YAHWEH IS SPIRIT JOHN 4:23-25 DEUT.32:39-41 ;6:4 ZEC.14:8-9 -2COR.3:17 YAHWEH HAS 3 STATE'S OF EXISTENCE PURE SPIRIT IN OTHER WORDS HE IS THE INFINITE AND IMMACULATE SUBSTANCE THE INSCRUTIBLE AND INCOMPREHENSIBLE PRINCIPAL THE TERMINUS AD QUO AND TERMINUS AD QUEM SO KNOWING THIS BEFORE HE BEGIN TO CREAT ANYTHING THAT WAS CREATED THAT SPIRIT TOOK ON SHAPE AND FORM RIGHT WITHIN HIMSELF IT DIDN'T TAKE ALL THE SPIRIT OR ALL OF YAHWEH TO TAKE ON THIS SPIRIT EMBODIMENT ENTITLED ELOHIM A SUPER INCORPOREAL ANTHROPOMORPHIC BEING HAVING THE SHAPE AND FORM OF A MAN BUT WITHOUT FLESH AND BLOOD COUNTERPARTS AND CAN ONLY BE SEEN IN DEVINE VISION AND UNDERSTOOD BY DEVINE REVELATION PROV.8:22-31 JOHN 17:1-5 SO PROPERLY RENDERED YAHWEH ELOHIM THE ARCHETYPE (ORIGINAL) PATTERN OF THE UNIVERSE REV.3:13-14; 13:8 13:8 SO HE THE PATTERN OF ALL CREATED THINGS SEEN AND UNSEEN VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE THE WHOLE CREATION SHOW FORTH HIS EVER INVISIBLE PRESENCE ELOHIM IS ALSO CALLED THE WORD OR SON OF YAHWEH WORD ARE EXPRESSION OF THOUGHTS AND ELOHIM IS THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF YAHWEH IN SHAP AND FORM THIS SAME WORD WAS MADE FLESH JOHN 1:1-14 AND THE FLESH HE IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE ELOHIM COL.--1:15-- ALL BY THAT ONE SPIRIT HE TOLD MOSES AT THE BURNING BUSH AYAH ASHUR AYAH (I WILL BE WHAT EVER I WILL TO BE) EX.--3:13- ISA.46-9- I CAN GO ON BUT I'LL STOP HERE

[@charlesmoon2388]

The holy Spirit is the spirit of Yahshua 1Cor.15:1-(35-46) JOHN 14:1-6,7-(16-20) JOHN 11:1-(20-26) JOHN14:6

[@thebiblerefutesheretics2054]

Roger Perkins (Oneness) has been challenging Ed Dalcour (Trinitarian) for a debate for years now. Dalcour keeps coming up with excuses (too busy lool). Trinitarians are scared and running from Perkins. Praise the Lord Jesus!

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I like his thoroughness.

[@dabneylanghorne6192]

He did do a debate with dr. James White a few years back. You should check it out

[@setapart3452]

Dalcour does not make sense when he tries to break down this foolish triune doctrine, so I would feel sorry for him, if he agrees to meeting with Perkins.

[@jasonfunk5908]

@@setapart3452 I feel sorry for you. Edward would destroy perkins!

[@setapart3452]

@@jasonfunk5908 He has not done well here, has he ?

[@setapart3452]

Dalcour was asked to show scriptures where the Apostles carried out a trinity baptism. Still waiting.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

It's going to be a looong wait...

[@setapart3452]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful Absolutely. I won't hold my breath.

[@alsolmo8993]

For one that is neither of Oneness or of the Trinity camp I would like to say that I found this to be a very nice debate. Intresting. They both had some good claims they came with, but I think that the Oneness guy put those forward much better. Great debate.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Logically, I think belief in one God versus a triad of cloned gods to defeat 1 devil makes more sense. Furthermore, many things don't line up with the trinity in the scriptures or Bible.

[@alsolmo8993]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful I would indeed agree with that. 👍

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

As a child, I naturally believed in one God as in Romans 1:20. However, after reading and attending trinitarian books and churches, I got confused on God's nature or essence. Much of tradition teaches unbiblical ideas. So I cried out to God for the truth, and he showed it to me but it took a few years to undue the damage that tradition or Satan's propaganda did. If people would just use the Bible as their sole teaching, reading and practicing it; all of Christianity would not hold to the trinity, Mariology (Mary or statue worship in any form) and all baptize in Jesus name. Well said the scriptures stating Satan is the god of this world, blinding the hearts of most, as sorrow is turned into joy by him. Brother, continue on in your study of God, as He is rewards of those who diligently seek Him. Look up, your reward or redemption draws nigh. God bless you.

[@alsolmo8993]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful Thank you. God bless you too. 🙏

[@sonlover62]

Matthew 28:18 "Baptizing them in the NAME (singular) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (plural)." One Being--Three Persons.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Ok so then this makes three earths by your logic. "O earth, earth, earth..." Jer. 22:29 I live on earth one then. Are you on the third earth?

[@sonlover62]

​@@CalledChosenandFaithful... Your comment does address the verse I provided. - What is your understanding of what Jesus means in this passage, if it is not as I am suggesting, that it implies the Three are One?

[@sonlover62]

* This edit (of my original comment) better articualtes what I wanted to say.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Matthew wrote that verse. He knew the name of the father was not father but Jesus, as in John 5:43 "I come in my father's name..." (Jesus said he came in God's name of Yashua, we call it Jesus). Jesus was called the son by Matthew in Matthew 1:21 "She shall bring forth a son, you shall call his name Jesus...." And the holy spirit was sent in the name of Jesus in John 14:26 "....the father will send him in my name..." Matthew and the other 119 baptized 3,000 Jews in the name of Jesus in Acts 2:38. So, using one scripture out of context like the Mormons do in 1 Cor. 15:29 to baptize for proxy or dead people is the same as using this verse of text of Matthew 28:19 out of context to baptize. The Apostles all baptized in the name of Jessu, because name meant payment in ancient times, and Jesus paid the price for all sin at Calvary, and we receive it upon our obedience to his word. Mark 16:15-17 Jesus told all the disciples to baptize in his name. Peter baptized the Samaritans in Jesus name in Acts 8:12-16. And Cornelius in Acts 10:36-47. Paul baptized in Jesus' name in acts 19:1-5 and was baptized into the name of Jesus in acts 22:16. Now why would anyone then doubt God to follow a manmade tradition?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Last one, since you are unwilling to address the baptism issue and refuse to accept the word of God at face value, we have nothing to talk about. This is it, goodbye.

[@knowwhojesusis4890]

1. Do today's Jews serve, and worship a Trinity? Answer: NO! Call a local Jewish synagogue, and they will tell you quickly that they do not, serve / worship a Trinity. 2. Did the Biblical Jews in Dt 13 ("1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS, WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM; 3 THOU SHALT NOT HEARKEN UNTO THE WORDS OF THAT PROPHET, OR THAT DREAMER OF DREAMS: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.") ...serve / worship a Trinity? Answer: NO! Call a local Jewish synagogue, and they will tell you quickly that Biblical Jews in Dt 13, DID NOT serve / worship a Trinity. With that FACT established, we understand that in context, Dt 13 instructs that God's people are not to serve/worship other gods (Trinity). Notice that Trinity is not and was not the God they knew and served in Dt 13. Therefore, a Trinity is ANOTHER god/gods, than the One True God the Jews ALREADY KNEW and served in Dt 13. That's the true contextual meaning. So, not only are God's people not to serve/worship other gods (Trinity) in Dt 13, but that commandment stands true today? We are not to serve/ worship a Trinity today. Further, Dt 13 tells them (those present in Dt 13) not to "hearken" to those people who encourage God's people to serve/ worship other gods (Trinity). Those people who today encourage people to serve/ worship a so-called Trinity, are false prophets. They are encouraging people to worship something other than the One True God. Do NOT listen to such people! The Bible commands this. I'll go one step further. Many people are swayed by religious leaders to worship a Trinity. Some go so far as to work some kind of wonder. Dt 13 tells all people why this happens, and what is going on. And it warns people not to listen to them. One more passage further supports this. Matthew 7:21-23 "21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED in thy name ...HAVE WE NOT CAST OUT DEVILS? and in thy name DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." If ANYONE listens to these people who encourage people to serve / worship a Trinity, they should realize that in Revelation many workers of wonders will be lost and damned to hell. Those who follow after them (which work wonders AND encourage people to serve / worship Trinity) will share the same fate, and be damned and lost. Just like those whom they have followed. It is a situation in which the blind lead the blind (Mt 15:14).

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Preach it.

[@setapart3452]

The biggest problem is that trinitarians operate on theology instead of revelation. It takes revelation to understand who God is.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I agree 100%. Also Satan has blinded their eyes just like He did Saul's before he became apostle Paul.

[@setapart3452]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful When he realised that the gospel was the fulfilment of Judaism, which he persecuted the church for, he then said this, Philippians 3 vs 7 - 8. Despite his high level knowledge of the law, I just loved his humility and willingness to bow, receive and change for truth. Finally, I always believe that this wicked lying doctrine, was designed by satan, in order to prevent men from knowing the one true God.

[@ktcarroll4723]

And there you have it from the Trinitarian at the end he gets it from early church fathers not the Bible not from the apostles

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

You are correct Sir. God bless you.

[@R.Varian]

Point of order, there is no way to prove a trinity from scripture.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

So true. You're correct. However, Satan has blinded mankind and these simply go with the flood of the ungodly teachings. God bless you.

[@purplepunch9223]

Thanks for the video; How do you account for this scripture: 9 “I watched till thrones were [a]put in place, And the Ancient of Days was seated; His garment white as snow, And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire; 10 A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The [b]court was seated, And the books were opened.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thanks Purple, God bless you.

[@DjAmpfibian]

King James had over 50 scholars translate the scriptures to English. This alone is all the world needs to understand the Bible. We don’t need to listen to so-called scholars who goes back to Greek in order to debunk Oneness. Despite what they try to prove through ancient Greek, Jews today still disapproves the trinity teaching for their ancient language has always proved that God is One with no Son or Holy Spirit sitting beside Him. The same way Trinitarians use Ancient Greek to debunk Oneness, Jews use ancient Hebrew to debunk Trinity. God assorted the scholars of King James era to bring back the truth to us once and for all. Lastly, Paul knew to how read and write Greek, Aramaic, Latin, and Hebrew. And not once did he ever refer God being as three persons in one, especially when the so-called trinity was revealed before his time during the days of the apostles.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I agree. For example the Jewish scholars held that God spoke to the angels in Gen. 1:26 when it was written let us make in our image, just as he later said in Isaiah, who will go for us. Both inferences were to the angels whom God created and informed of His mighty works. Now, DD Marvin Arnold said in the Hebrew Bible, it was written that God said He made man and did not use the phrase let us. I believe the trinitarians created their idol by around 380 and worked back to try to find him in the Old Testament. Even many dictionaries and encyclopedias plainly point out that the triad in unity (trinitas Greek for trinity; means exactly that, coined by Tertullian in 200 AD) cannot be found in the OT. Years ago the trinity scholars claimed when the God met Abraham with two angels, that was God the father, God the son and God the Holy Ghost (though these phrases are not scriptural). The argument was since fallen away. Thanks for watching Javier.

[@annacargill6066]

trinitarian beliefs is really confusing. they are so blind feeding on their own flesh and not truly opening the eyes of their hearts to actually lean to God understanding. but i hope and pray that they get to know the truth.

[@speaksfire145]

John 12 43For they loved praise from men more than praise from God. 44Then Jesus cried out,“Whoever believes in Me does not believe in Me alone, but in the One who sent Me. 45And whoever sees Me sees the One who sent Me.…

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Amen. I'd rather walk the narrow hated path and make it to glory with the Lord, than run with the majority with a changed gospel just to hear, "Depart from me, ye who work iniquity, I never knew you." Oh what sad day for those who serve the one true nad living God by their false religion, so close yet so far. tares look like the wheat, the trinity looks similar to the truth, but it is strictly Catholic tradition. O bless the lord, who gave us the love for the truth.

[@iredsky4482]

Speaks Fire. Our Father in Jesus and Jesus in me. NOW that you have seen me, you have seen Jesus. NOW that you have seen Jesus, you have seen the Father. This in no way makes me Jesus or the Father.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

You are mixing the humanity and deity of Jesus. What was Jesus born of? Read Matthew 1:18-21. It was god's Holy Spirit.

[@georgesboisvert4278]

The father was in christ ,the father gave his name to the son to represent him,the father in christ manifested by walking on water not the son cauz the son can't do that without the father.that was for Mr.dodley.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Dudley has feigned words. Can anyone created in God's image honestly say that they are three people of the same substance as the trinity teaches? No. Case closed.

[@georgesboisvert4278]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful You know when triune god followers say the "let us" we'll if they go to genesis 1 It says "let there be light" Where is "us "well the angels were not created then ,only on the second day where he created the heavens that we see the famous "us" because the angels were there its even in the comments of the rabbi's in the tanak .

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I did a short video on that. In Isaiah 6 it's the same thing, angels thete talked to by God. As in Job 37 they angels rejoiced in creation.

[@derekbaker777]

I know where Trinitarians stand, and they believe in three distinct beings, which is false doctrine. This guy is way off.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Amen

[@rotten-saved-wretch5048]

Oneness eaten up for lunch per usual.....The whole message especially their works based salvation doesn't hold up under the weight of TRUTH!

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

So when the word of God says faith without works is dead, it's in apostasy to your hyper grace and easy believism philosphy and lie? Now tell me, how does one get saved according to you?

[@rotten-saved-wretch5048]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful James 2:14-26 is sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create a works-based system of righteousness, but that is contrary to many other passages of Scripture. James is not saying that our works make us righteous before God but that real saving faith is demonstrated by good works. Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. The person who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ has a false or dead faith and is not saved. Paul basically says the same thing in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. James contrasts two different types of faith-true faith that saves and false faith that is dead.

[@JivTurky1986]

You never answered the question. What does it take to be saved?

[@charlesmoon2388]

He YAHWEH HAS TWO MANIFESTATIONS SUPER INCORPOREAL AND IN THE FLESH IN THE FACE OF YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH THE WORD OR SON HE CAME IN HIS FATHER'S NAME HIS VERY NAME MEAN YAHWEH HE IS SALVATION COL.2:8-9 MAT.1:18-25

[@enriquetasuazo9343]

Did he just say God the Son??? No no no. It’s the Son of God. God(deity) cannot die. Son(humanity) could and therefore did die. Son of God = Humanity Son of Man= Flesh John 3:6, KJV: "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” Mary gave birth to Jesus and is therefore a Man( Son of man) Flesh Matthew 1:20 Kjv But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost Of course there are millions of more trinitarianas because the mystery is hidden from them. It’s revealed to the childlike.Even catholics believe the same way trinitarians do so how can it be a mystery to them ? If anyone says that your supposed to baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirt because Jesus said that in Matthew 28:19 and it should be done that way. Well then why does Peter baptize in Jesus name ? Did he make an error ? Well of course not because the Word of God has no error. If one thing is wrong then the whole Bible is wrong. Acts 2-38 is the correct way and if you say otherwise then why is it in Acts 2:46 we see that it is the Lord who is adding to the Church those who are being saved?. And we all know everyone in the book of Acts is baptize in Jesus name ?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I appreciate your well thought out and true comment. God bless you brother.

[@joerod5621]

JWs & Roman Catholics can’t make a case for Dalcours Triune God! Dalcour might as well say Mary mother of God the Son!

[@Michael91672]

One God 3 persons. God is triune! John 14:13-14, which says, "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son". We're told in the Bible to not pray to any other than God yes Jesus says to ask anything in his name.... Why is that? Hes YHWY

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

The phrase "Holy One of Israel" appears in the Bible 25 times in the book of Isaiah. God is never called a trinity in it. That is idolatry. "Little children, keep yourselves from idols" 1 John 5:21. Who said "I and my father are one" in John 10:30. Jesus said, "He that has seen has seen the father," John 14. How? God was in Christ 2 Cor. 5:19. Jesus is the fullness of the godhead in Col 2:9. Your trinity came upon the scene first by Tertullian in 200 AD. Over 100 years after the bible was complete. It became Catholic teaching in 381. You live outsideof God's word. "Man shall live by every word of God" and trinity is not in it neither the word or concept.

[@anneviggiano3801]

Study the Hebrew language. The condition of the verb determines the usage of the noun performing that action verb. Genesis 1:1 Elohim is plural to describe The One true God as plural in attributes. The verb created. Is singular.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

The Ancient Jews believed that Gen. 1:26 was in fact God speaking to his angels for the same reason. In fact, Dagon a singular god was called Elohim, and nobody called three gods in unity. The rationale of people is to use any excuse not to serve the one true God. God bless you.

[@andys3035]

Unfortunately, the clear presentation given by Eddie will go in one ear and out the other. It's good to have these debates to get hearts stirred to truth, so hopefully a seed was planted.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Now Andy, how is it that you disagree with Scripture? You said that God was a trinity. That's real funny, because God never said that! He said he was and is the Holy One of Israel over 20 times in the book of Isaiah, the oneness prophet. Now, look at what history and a pope said on the trinity. "The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century." Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger best known as (Pope Benedict XVI) admits this. Want more my deceived friend? Whether in God head or baptism, the change is a satanic lie! Here's the proof, and this is the end of our discussion. The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: "The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century." Hastings Dictionary of the Bible 1963, page 1015: "The Trinity.-...is not demonstrable by logic or by Scriptural proofs,...The term Trias was first used by Theophilus of Antioch (c AD 180),...(The term Trinity) not found in Scripture..." "The chief Trinitarian text in the NT is the baptismal formula in Mt 28:19...This late post-resurrection saying, not found in any other Gospel or anywhere else in the NT, has been viewed by some scholars as an interpolation into Matthew. It has also been pointed out that the idea of making disciples is continued in teaching them, so that the intervening reference to baptism with its Trinitarian formula was perhaps a later insertion into the saying. Finally, Eusebius's form of the (ancient) text ("in my name" rather than in the name of the Trinity) has had certain advocates. (Although the Trinitarian formula is now found in the modern-day book of Matthew), this does not guarantee its source in the historical teaching of Jesus. It is doubtless better to view the (Trinitarian) formula as derived from early (Catholic) Christian, perhaps Syrian or Palestinian, baptismal usage (cf Didache 7:1-4), and as a brief summary of the (Catholic) Church's teaching about God, Christ, and the Spirit:..." The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge: "Jesus, however, cannot have given His disciples this Trinitarian order of baptism after His resurrection; for the New Testament knows only one baptism in the name of Jesus (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:43; 19:5; Gal. 3:27; Rom. 6:3; 1 Cor. 1:13-15), which still occurs even in the second and third centuries, while the Trinitarian formula occurs only in Matt. 28:19, and then only again (in the) Didache 7:1 and Justin, Apol. 1:61...Finally, the distinctly liturgical character of the formula...is strange; it was not the way of Jesus to make such formulas... the formal authenticity of Matt. 28:19 must be disputed..." page 435.

[@bobjames3748]

Yeah, not to follow a false Trinity. So you think sauntering out the Greek, when it is already translated by far superior men than Dalcour is the way to go? See he can't use the English, he tries to pull the wool over someone's eyes. He doesn't want to look at the history of your church, the murderous lot, he doesn't want to see that Monarchians were the majority in the 2nd and 3rd centuries ( and the 1st Bible Apostles age). Eddie doesn't want to tell anyone who God is in John 1:1 , no Trinitarian will stick with their Trinity there. The Jews rejected Eddie's and all Trinitarians trying to tell them there was a Trinity God in the OT. That puny "Let Us" idea has been so refuted it is appalling he runs it out. Tell me how many Apostolic Oneness books you have or have read? 1? Zero? Have you studied any history of your church? I doubt it. You certainly don't know anything if past Monarchians or modern Oneness Monarchians.

[@speaksfire145]

the question is not is God one or 3...the question is.. Is YHWH God one.. is the Father the only true God as Jesus taught...Hear o Israel YHWH thy God is One....

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

God is one. 42 times he's called the holy One. Not one the Holy Trinity. God is a spirit not a committee. Amen.

[@samer3456]

God is one not three. If there were three Gods then which one would take the throne? There would just be chaos everywhere and there wouldn’t be any order in the universe. The reason why some people believe this is because this is the result of Jesus Christ’s original message becoming corrupt over time. And even if it does talk about the trinity in the Bible, this doesn’t matter because there are over 200 different versions of the Bible and it is not in its original form. The final prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to clear up these misconceptions and to re-establish the same pure message that all of the other prophets and messengers in the past have preached. He was sent with the last revelation until the day of judgement which is the Quran. This book is the criterion over all religion and it is a historical fact that not a single letter has changed ever since revelation. And there is nowhere in here that says God is three. May God guide you all to the straight path :)

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

God is one according to His word, scriptures or the bible. That we agree upon. However, Muhammed was born after 33 AD and the Apostles who had great power given to them by Jesus, who is God alone, showed us how to obtain it. We all must repent of our ideas about religion, and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin (Acts 2:38) and then we will receive God's Holy Spirit which God gave to us who have obeyed His word and will. Muhammed did not obey the gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4), and instead made another Gospel (Gal. 1:6-12) which does not have the power of God's Holy Spirit in it (Romans 1:16-20). If you are of God, you would hear my words, for they are His words. Now the prophet is not a true one (Matthew 24), as He did not follow the words of life given to us by Jesus, and there's no salvation without Him (John 14:6). Now do good and follow the truth, or you will abide with the prophet in the afterlife (Mark 16:16). Islam does not promise anything for certain after death on Judgment Day, however, we who have God's spirit are judged now by Him, and have already entered into His Kingdom, which is a spirit filled one; we have passed from death to life, and now speak the words of light and life.

[@bobjames3748]

Muhammad was a false murdering, pedophile, godless man that made up a lie and has many contradictions and waiting itself, and with the Bible,OT and NT.

[@angelbanaybanay6536]

With My Soul have I desired thee in the night; yea With My Spirit Within Me. Isaiah 26: 9 I cried unto God With My Voice even unto God With My Voice. Psalm 77: 1 The Word of God was God himself. Psalm 33: 6 Hebrews 11: 3 John 1: 10 Isaiah 44: 24 John 1: 1 - 3 The Word was God said : See Now that I, even I, am he and there is No God With Me. Deuteronomy 32: 39

[@jimmyallen9188]

Why did Jesus ask 3 times to let the cup pass from Him?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Why did Christ require baptism for believers in his name of Jesus?

[@jimmyallen9188]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful as a testimony such as a marriage to Him, but much deeper in that we die to self and are raised to new life in Him

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

We can't die to self truly without baptism. It's into the life, death and rising of Jesus, and in his name. Cor. 15:1-4; Romans 6:3-6.

[@jimmyallen9188]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful yes, we obviously agree on the purpose of baptism, but I’d like to discuss my original question: why did Jesus ask 3 times to let the cup pass from Him?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

There's an agenda from the question.

[@c.l.smooth29]

Both seem to be intelligent individuals but relatively speaking how do you get 3 days & 3 nights from Good Friday to Sunday which all these denominations totally eradicated God's sabbath day & created their own.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Wed-Fri is the probable time frame. Remembering that a portion may be in the evening and accounted for a day. The important issue that supercedes this is whether a person is saved, sanctified and walking in the way always.

[@c.l.smooth29]

Called, Chosen and Faithful I appreciate the response & salvation is definitely the key but how can one believe that Christ is apart of any of these denominations when they don't even follow God's laws. P.S. I am not a 7th day adventist, but I follow the 10 commandments. Daniel 9:27 tells you that he died in the midst of the week (Wednesday) which would have him arise on the Sabbath evening, how ironic. Isn't The Most High Great & his word never drviates.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

As much as possible, I do the same. Yet there seems to be tradition in nearly every church that I have attended to a greater or lesser degree; unfortunately almost no group is without out. For instance, the theory of original sin is from Augustine, taken directly from Psalm 51:5 out of context. Take a close look at this verse 5 in the whole context of Psalm 51 where we find that David is repenting before God. David knows in his heart that HE HIMSELF has sinned against God, but in verse 5, again IF taken “literally”, then David would be BLAMING God for his sin. In essence David would be accusing God saying, you made me this way God, you formed me in iniquity from the womb, in sin did my mother conceive me, it is not my fault, I cannot help but sin for I am just a sinner born into sin. Are we born with inherited sin? No. If it were so, then we can then justify baby baptism, but we know it is for he that believes (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:36-41). We, rather, have to have some knowledge of sin in order to be liable for it. "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." James 4:17 “Moreover your little ones, (babies and toddlers) which you said should be prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.” Deuteronomy 1:39 Now, I challenge every to live by every word of God (Matthew 4:4) regardless of what they have seen in a church. God will judge us in the last day and not any organization. We live and die unto Him. Live in love and truth, and show those around us the truth as God permits seems to be what the Apostles showed us by the Epistles (Letters). God bless you in the name of Jesus.

[@usarmygunz]

C.L. Smooth You are very correct. The scriptures say he would be slain in the midst of the week. There is only one day that falls perfectly in the middle of the week (Wednesday). He rose on the sabbath day.

[@keepingitreal1018]

I️ would to start by stating that thank God both parties believe in One God :monotheism. I️ have had this debate before and my biggest concern is when the deity of Jesus is denied , which I️ have to face especially with Jehovah witness . I️ might sound to simplistic but parties may not realize but they’re more in agreement that they realize . Both parties agree in the oneness of God but obviously it can not be denied and it was not of the 3 functions of the one God .. From what I️ see the problem becomes obvious when the the word 3 persons are used but 3 functions appear not to offend .it is obvious that 3 functions are being manifested by the One God . God the father , God the sion and God the Holy Spirit . To deny the deity of any of the three would be the real sin . Does it really have to cause so much commotion if we say three functions or three persons . At the end of the day is one God having to manifest 3 functions . All three being the same deity . Now again I️ repeat they’re are those who will deny the deity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit . That I️ have a problem with . If you want to call it three functions or three persons in my opinion it does not change the end result . I️ myself believe and use the term the holy trinity , because of the three that are mentioned as the God head as part of Gods plan for our salvation .all three play a role in one plan , and that is our salvation .

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thank you for explaining your viewpoint. However, the term trinity is a man made idea. In Christianity, it was brought about 200 plus years after the Apostles died, and the New Testament written. Indeed by Catholicism, the three Cappadocians, said in it's invention, "In thinking upon the trinity, we came upon the trinity." They borrowed from Greek Platonic thought to form their Babylonian induced triad in unity. God always told us that He was alone from the start, in fact, He calls Himself the "Holy One" of Israel over 20 times. Now if you referring to God as Father in creation, son in redemption and Holy Spirit in regeneration, then I agree. Yet God is one. God said worship Him alone in Exodus 20:5. He did not say worship Him, and His clones. God is not a committee. God is a one person God, as the trinitarians call Him one in essence but three in person. That is plain confusion. And not of God. God is not the author of confusion, but peace. All oneness of God believers have peace. The trinitarians from the start enforced their beliefs by threats of theft or death, and many were killed by the Catholics in the Inquisition. Also Protestants also killed others, especially during the Reformation period. The fruit of the trinity is bad. the fruit of believing only what the scriptures is good. Plain and simple, you shall know them by their fruits (works). The work of the trinity helped the formulation of wars, Islam and the spread of disease. I can think of no good thing that comes from a man made tradition that has killed in the past to defend itself, and deceives most of the world today! Can you?

[@keepingitreal1018]

Called, Chosen and Faithful Thank you for your response , it s not often I️ get such a quick response I️ spend all of my time studying the scriptures . It has become my passion for many years now . I️ have studied deeply and heard preachers from the 1800’s to our modern day preachers that can sometimes worry me to say the least . You make very valid points it just breaks my heart to see how the enemy has become so effective in dividing the body of Christ . Dear Sir, I️ will like to take this time to humbly ask you to keep me in your prayers . The enemy has declare war on me because of my passion to win souls for the lord . I️ know we have victory but it so hard to find a sound church and have have a support system . . I️ feel the spirit wants me to stay in touch with you and maybe we can share a bit . I️ would like to know a bit more about you and your ministry . Maybe I️ can share a little about me and my testimony Originally from New York but know I️ reside in Miami I️ need someone to talk to who cares about souls that can be used by God to continue help me in my journey I’m very old school and love conversing on the phone or in person when possible My number is 786 564 1479 I️ feel in the spirit it was ok to give it to you Stay blessed , Joseph

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

That's right brother.

[@jordantupouila3363]

Keeping it real 101 yes truth has been exist, but the question is where to we think the truth game from. Sure you know , the word of God is the truth. If you add or take out from the word. You proved yourself a liar. The apostles warned, some canal men shall come and will bring in false doctrines, they speak of something that they don’t understand. Is the trinity taught by Moses or the prophet or the apostles. If they don’t that’s must’ve been from the pagans beliefs. Not Christ Jesus.

[@annacargill6066]

oness is the truth. everything was biblical

[@johnarevalo3450]

God is Elohim. And ELOHIM said, let US make. Hello, Mcfly...

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

You have some good answers, thank you brother.

[@Post-Trib]

God the Father became his own Son

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

I think better to say what the scriptures have; that God was manifested in the flesh, 1 Tim. 3:16.

[@Post-Trib]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful what's the difference? Same one and only God manifesting himself in the flesh as the Son which is his own Son, himself.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

There's a difference. God the father, who is a spirit could not suffer or die, he had to enter a body that could. The reason I said that is because people in the past have ridiculed monotheism because they say the one God believers claim that the father died on the cross. Here's what the happened. Sabellianism in the Eastern church (and a version of modalism, modalistic monarchianism, or modal monarchism). Modalism is the belief that God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are three different modes or aspects of one monadic God, as perceived by the believer, rather than three distinct persons within the Godhead - that there are no real or substantial differences between the three, such that the identity of the Spirit or the Son is that of the Father. In the West, a version of this belief was known pejoratively as patripassianism by its critics (from Latin patri- "father" and passio "suffering"), because the teaching required that since God the Father had become directly incarnate in Christ, the Father literally sacrificed Himself on the Cross.

[@Post-Trib]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful well God the Father did just that. Not that God died but his physical body died. God the Father literally manifested himself in the flesh as the Son.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

1 Timothy 3:16 as I said.

[@blackberrylady6025]

Never been 3 Gods.....No such trinity is found in the bible...ONLY ONE GOD....💯💯💯👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

That's right.

[@jordantupouila3363]

I don’t think Mr D. He is receiving revelation of the Father, Jesus said no man knows the son, but the Father, neither knows any man the Father, save the son, and he to whomsoever the son will reveal him. I hope you pray and fasting and first you must repent, turn away from all unrighteousness,I am sure you see as the eyes of the spirit. May God bless you, Amen.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Pray for anyone who does not know the truth of the one true God, as even Apostle paul was converted after being a murderer'; with God all is possible.

[@JoseMartinez-ez6lz]

Why waste time whith the trinitarian doctrine is non sense

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Jose, though it may seem a waste of time, in fact we must point the basic truth that God is one. If not then according to the trinity teachings, there are 3 gods or lords, a title baptism that saves nobody and false tradition that Paul told us to expose in Colossians 2.

[@gregpayne7861]

Jehovah Rapha Jehovah nicese etc

[@speaksfire145]

If The Father is YHWH and The Word is identified as YHWH and the one Holy Spirit is the Spirit of YHWH...then these 3 are one as 1 john 5 7 says is correct right?...There's three but only one.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

One God who manifests Himself as Father in creation, son in redemption and Holy Spirit in redemption. Not three separate persons, that's paganism.

[@onewaytogodjesus4922]

Called, Chosen and Faithful Can prove this by Bible verses?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

How many of the 7,000 verses do you want to show forth that God is one? How about the over 51 verses that call God the HOLY ONE? Would that be enough? Holy One - Hebrew 06918 קָדוֹשׁ qadowsh {kaw-doshe’} or קָדֹשׁ qadosh {kaw-doshe’} Meaning: 1) sacred, holy, Holy One, saint, set apart Origin: from 06942; TWOT - 1990b; adj Usage: AV - holy 65, Holy One 39, saint 12; 116 Verses 2 Kings 19:22 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel. Job 6:10 Then should I yet have comfort; yea, I would harden myself in sorrow: let him not spare; for I have not concealed the words of the Holy One. Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Psalm 71:22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth, O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel. Psalm 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel. Psalm 89:18 For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king. Isaiah 1:4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Isaiah 5:19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it! Isaiah 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 10:17 And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day; Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. Isaiah 12:6 Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee. Isaiah 17:7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 29:19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 29:23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel. Isaiah 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. Isaiah 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: Isaiah 30:15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not. Isaiah 31:1 Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because they are many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD! Isaiah 37:23 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 40:25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. Isaiah 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 41:16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 41:20 That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it. Isaiah 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. Isaiah 43:14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. Isaiah 43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. Isaiah 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 48:17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. Isaiah 49:7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee. Isaiah 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee. Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel. Jeremiah 50:29 Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let none thereof escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been proud against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel. Jeremiah 51:5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel. Ezekiel 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Hosea 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city. Habakkuk 1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction. Habakkuk 3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise. New Testament Definitions Holy One - Greek 40 ἅγιος hagios {hag’-ee-os} Meaning: 1) most holy thing, a saint Origin: from hagos (an awful thing) [cf 53, 2282]; TDNT - 1:88,14; adj Usage: AV - holy 161, saints 61, Holy One 4, misc 3; 229 Verses Mark 1:24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. Luke 4:34 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God. Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; Acts 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

[@speaksfire145]

Called, Chosen and Faithful so the Father is the son and holy spirit is what your telling me.....who is the holy one of God? Isn't it Jesus? The reality is theres someone who is called the Father and there's someone who is called the Son and there's someone called the Holy Spirit....I believe these 3 are one...do you believe that there are 3?

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

You are not making any sense. One God who can manifest Himself in many ways, but still one. I am a father, I have a son and the spirit of life abides in me. That certainly does not fit your description of oneness, however as long as you believe in the one true God then you are monostheistic. Yet the father is someone who can show HImself in the son, and as the holy Spirit. To say that the three appearances of God are persons or separate but equal persons is falsehood, which you imply.

[@anthonyspencer6475]

Jesus is God.but Jesus is man.its what is in him is God.god is not born.god don't have a mother Jesus do

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Well, the spirit of God in him was totally God's while on his mother side it was human DNA and on His father's was God. He was God mande manifested in the flesh, enfleshed, God with us. But all of God, because God fills both the heavens and earth, but a portion of His spirit; because God is a spirit, until His exaltation into heaven.

[@bonniejohnson1518]

Forget the Septugent its a fake, and was written 200 years after Jesus.....setting that ; The Godhead (Authoritative Structure) is made up of three individual person..all three have a living soul. They have been in a covenant from forever past and forever forward everlasting though time....................Willie

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Anything extrabiblical is not 1000% reliable, only God's word. However, books the "The Shepherd of Hermas" point out the need for Jesus name baptism, the holy Spirit and other things.

[@gideonicao2966]

Pastor Dudley has weak arguments and aswers

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

The trinity has little basis for argument.

[@gregpayne7861]

Father, son one spirit 2 offices. Just like when Jesus is the bridegroom and we are the bride

[@azulthamourtiw3669]

He make me laughing the trinitarian God hahahahhaH, there is three 🌎 too. After 4000 years the trinitarians discovered a new God and a more two new earth.

[@jasonfunk5908]

If you win by shouting Nathan wins. If you win by scripture Dr. Dalcour wins.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

All I ever say to anyone is show me the verse that point that God is three in unity, because they're not there. In fact, early Christianity never had a tri unity of gods until Tertullian came up with the idea in 200 ad. It was adopted by Catholics in 325-381 and then adjusted afterwards. They say, "In thinking upon the trinity, we came upon the trinity..." Oh, you mean you borrowed it from Greek Platonic and Gnostic teachings. I've read 21 times of the holy one and never, ever once of the trinity or holy three. So, anything outside of scripture is man's tradition, but never truth.

[@blackberrylady6025]

Prove it by scripture, bcus Mr. delcor didn't, neither can u....not biblical.....Here oh isreal the lord our God is one ...

[@juanc.feliciano9507]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful have you watched the White - Sabin debate? Poor Robert Sabin! James White completely destroyed him. James White schooled totally in the greek language. Lol!!! James White also won Roger Perkins. Lol!!!

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

@@juanc.feliciano9507 Juan, is God is one or three? The trinity literally means three in unity, which neither scriptural nor true! The term and idea got started by Tertullian in 200 AD. I serve the holy One which is stated over 21 times, mainly in the book of Isaiah. God won all debates, because He said that He was one. The oath of confirmation or word of God is the end of all strife. Lastly, you were created in God's image so are you three people in unity?

[@thinkaboutthatok8129]

@@CalledChosenandFaithful John 17 v 21 That they all may be one; as THOU, Father, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. Who is the us in this verse? --------- Genesis 1 v 26 And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:............ Who are we made in the image of? (Genesis 1 v 27) Can anyone but God create? (Isaiah 44 v 24) Who was God talking to? It can’t be anyone else but God, because nobody else can create. Again who is the us in this verse? ---------

[@kevinwall2882]

John 10:30 I and my Father are one One in unity but not in person. You still can’t get around the truth of the scripture if Jesus relating unity of Him and the Father and of both being distinct persons. There is no role playing.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Jesus was born of God's Holy Spirit, and thus he was and the same spirit of God. He told everyone in John 14, he that has seen me has seen the father" because they are the same spirit. God did not limit the Holy Spirit in Him of which he was born of as in Matthew 1:18-21. John 3:31"He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. 32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. " In fact, he the everlasting father, spirit and son in Isaiah 9:6. "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." So, you can be an Arian or Trinitarian, but I'm a scriptural believing Monotheist, unlike yourself.

[@azulthamourtiw3669]

He is not mature enough to debate that that level. Trinitarian you are roasted

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Thanks for watching. I like your name, Azul/Blue in English. That's God favorite color, the seas, sky and seem to point towards that. God bless you.

[@ipaporod]

Yep God is one Lord: The Father is Lord, The Son is Lord and The Holy Spirit is Lord!.Same as you are human (one) and still you are a human spirit (1), with a human soul (2)and in a human body (3).3 Forms in one individual person, I don't think that's so hard to grasp!.We as humans cannot explain our own nature and attributes.How can a body made out of flesh and blood is able to support a spirit and soul which have no substance and yet that same spirit and soul is what make that body made out of flesh and blood function and feel?.If we cannot answer that simple question about our own nature and substance how are we going to even try to explain God's nature,substance and function?. You as a human being cannot break that bondage unless you want to die and therefore will have only 2 , soul and spirit.God is not human and as such He is not subject to our limitations, no one knows the way God is physically speaking because He is spirit, but an spirit that can become human (Jesus Christ )and a Holy Spirit that can indwell in a born again Christian heart.God functions within His 3 persons and yet the bible teach us that those 3 persons are one and can function independently and yet remain as one.I love that quality of God so much because it make Him more unique and awesome!.I am glad that God and man are trillions of mile apart in how different they are when it comes to their nature and substance.I would not want God to be like us temporal in our existence, with limitations and imperfect creatures.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

In case some tries to deny this truth, one God does not mean three people. I serve the Holy One of Israel. We all serve Him who love His word, and follow His truth. Jesus is God alone. Allah is a moon god, not the true God. Amen.

[@benguro2034]

Let me have some comments. The Oneness debater here is in the truth and proved to us based on the scripture that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself. However the trinitarian debater here is so clever and well trained on how to present the trinity to look it more biblical. He is very cunning to twist the truth of the scriptures to make us believed that the trinity is the truth but He proved nothing but to show to us that God is many gods whether he insisted that he believed in one God. I therefore suggest to all the oneness believers that we may be more equipped with more knowledge and skilled and guidance of the Holy Spirit to refute the lies of the trinity doctrine and to destroy every arguments and reasoning of the triniitarian apologists.

[@CalledChosenandFaithful]

Yes, we are told by paul, "To study ourselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Tim. 2:15 And Again in the Proverbs, "The heart of the righteous studies to answer: but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things." If we are to be judge by this book many call the bible (biblos), then we should know it by heart. For if not, we would like those who are destroyed for lack of knowledge. (Hosea 4:6)