Wes Montgomery's Block Chord Method: Transform Your Playing

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Nathan Borton Music

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@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Here is the link for all the extra lesson materials! www.patreon.com/NathanBortonMusicPatreon? ERROR CORRECTION: at 4:50 the chord should be 6767 on TAB not 7878! Also at 6:16 the melody should be F and harmonized 12-13-12-13. These changes will be fixed on PDF's. Thanks for your understanding. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 00:32 - Passing Diminished Chords 04:37 - Wes's Concept on Minor 7 Chords 05:13 - Wes's Concept on Dominant 7 Chords 06:17 - Combining It All Together 09:21 - Demonstration of Concepts
@flamezcallahoon
@flamezcallahoon 9 ай бұрын
You should pin this comment! :)
@guitariste47
@guitariste47 6 ай бұрын
Love it
@danieleviale69
@danieleviale69 11 ай бұрын
Trust me mate, i m graduate here in Italy in jazz at college and this video Is the best lesson i have ever seen
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Hey! Really appreciate your kind words, thanks!
@JBGWAlain
@JBGWAlain Жыл бұрын
This is really the key to Wes’ harmonic sound and while it is a simple concept, it takes years (lifetime) to master. The other very important part of the equation that not many people talk about is Wes’ incredible sense of rhythm and time. Anyone who has transcribed a Wes solo notices right away that his timing is hard to copy. By far my favorite player of all time. Nathan, you are a great player and an awesome teacher. It’s nice to see someone carrying the torch. Keep it up. You deserve way more subscribers.
@rickhandel336
@rickhandel336 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I have been working on chord soloing in this style a ton for about 5 years now. The ideas are simple, but the application is a challenge! I also agree that Nathan is a great player and teacher!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and yes! Rhythm is so very important and is often overlooked on YT. Hopefully if people practice the etude for this lesson they will get some sense of Wes's block chord rhythms, but the best way is to just transcribe Wes. Thanks for your comment!
@mellodc
@mellodc Жыл бұрын
I agree totally. Great lesson. And Wes’s time is the best. He always sounds like he’s so locked with the drummer, like he IS the drummer. For me, that’s one of the many great things about him. And his spontaneity and relaxed sense of the whole thing. Like it’s just a walk in the park. He makes it look and feel so effortless, natural. Just the bluesiest, swinginest cat ever! That’s why it’s such a challenge for me, and probably most of us. Not only do we need these concepts, lines, chords etc. But the feel and execution. I’ve been trying to pull off that octave solo on Polkadots and Moonbeams for decades. It’s a great one. I’d love a lesson on how Wes “sees” the neck. I’m always amazed in the videos when all those lines look like he’s playing them with 2-3 fingers and shifting smoothly up and down the fretboard. Definitely not locked into scale patterns. What’s happening there?
@JBGWAlain
@JBGWAlain Жыл бұрын
⁠I’m pretty sure he is visualizing simple triads for everything. That’s why he’ll slide into a note with his third finger instead of using his fourth finger which allows him to keep the shape of the triad. It allows him to slide in and out if his “home base”. A lot of his licks are surprisingly easier and faster if played with 3 fingers. Whenever doing any transcription of his work, it’s best to try and figure out how he could’ve played it with three fingers. It’s also part of why his timing is the way it is. Here’s an example on my channel. You’ll notice that I play it slower than Wes. His speed is mind blowing and I can’t keep up with that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/labPeoJ9aNt_l6c
@mellodc
@mellodc Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tip! Thanks!
@texaspete7897
@texaspete7897 Жыл бұрын
Now I see a link/practical application of those Barry Harris repeating 6th/diminished chords from the harmonized 6th diminished scale. You just opened a huge door in my musical progress. I've been stuck trying to figure out how to practically apply the Barry Harris basics. This lesson finally gave me the big AHA! moment. This is a gigantic rut-buster. Thanks Nathan!!!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! Yes, this is a great way to use the major 6th scale! You'll see that the application of it is slightly different, but the scale is the same! If you have any questions let me know.
@mellodc
@mellodc Жыл бұрын
There’s an excellent book by Alan Kingstone that puts Barry Harris method on guitar and also shows you how to use it. And lots of good lessons online about his method as well.
@texaspete7897
@texaspete7897 Жыл бұрын
I have that book. Need to spend more time in it...Thanks
@rickjensen2717
@rickjensen2717 Жыл бұрын
This technique was used a lot in the 1930s where 6th and diminished chords were used for tunes back then.
@kayakkootenaybc
@kayakkootenaybc 9 ай бұрын
2 years in Music school and this is the best lesson on block chords I've seen. Awesome job.
@TheEpochCompanion
@TheEpochCompanion 9 ай бұрын
Great lesson! I think I noticed a couple minor errors, correct me if I'm wrong though: at 4:48 (and again at 5:00) the chord symbol shows a B° which is what you play, but the tablature shows a C°. Also the tab shows a D° which is what you play but the chord symbol is D-7.
@ashwutrodriguez210
@ashwutrodriguez210 8 ай бұрын
Maaan.. Thanks for this. I've been studying my drop two chords With the diminished passing tones for a long time now. Including side stepping has really helped me turn a corner on this style. Thank you so much again. I've been working at this for years.And this one concept really helped me out quite a bit.
@jz4901
@jz4901 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Good information density, no fluff or exposition, no unnecessary camera tricks, nice lighting sound and angles. and great playing and tone! Thank you very much, super work.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words!
@yoachelinnocent7963
@yoachelinnocent7963 Жыл бұрын
Block chords this is the best lesson more of block chords please 🙏
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you! If you like block chord stuff make sure and check out my pervious lesson on Joe Pass blues block chords: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnjRnZ-bo6pofdE
@remielbox
@remielbox 3 ай бұрын
Every guitarist needs to watch this video! Thank you very much!
@AndyDemos
@AndyDemos Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this lesson! Always wanted to dip my toes into jazz and Wes’ style and this is a great foundation.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching! Thanks!
@yekri2398
@yekri2398 11 ай бұрын
Great video ! First part is an incredible application of 6th diminished scale by Barry Harris. Thanks, you play great !
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jacksguitarplanet
@jacksguitarplanet Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have also heard of the idea of playing a chord scale and using diminished on the notes in between (b2, b3, b5, #5 and b7). I like this idea of inversions also.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hope this lesson helps you use these block chord concepts! Thanks for watching :)
@theshredguitarist25
@theshredguitarist25 5 ай бұрын
3:45 wow incredible!!!!!! Liked and subscribed. Thanks for the lesson
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Happy to help :)
@seanslavin1974
@seanslavin1974 11 ай бұрын
This is deep. Probably the reason I never gravitated towards jazz guitar playing is that it's too "heady" for my lazy arse. I know my theory but not at this level. This is an outstanding lesson. Thank you.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words!
@BlueFritzie
@BlueFritzie 9 ай бұрын
Nathan I’ve always loved Wes since I was a kid, he was a genius. Your analysis of his playing opened my eyes to a few things I can incorporate into my playing thank you very much.
@BlueFritzie
@BlueFritzie 9 ай бұрын
BTW, what guitar strap is that that you use?
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 9 ай бұрын
So great to hear! and the guitar strap I use is the zero gravity guitar strap from CGF
@HVL1977
@HVL1977 7 ай бұрын
Great Lesson !!! Your patreon is excellent !!!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I put alot of work into making it the best it can be. Glad people are finding the material useful!
@apresmidi153
@apresmidi153 3 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to talk about this but, after getting really into the pianist Milt Buckner for a bit, I think Wes got some of his ideas from Bucker's block chord playing and I think they both played with Lionel Hampton around the same time (not sure on that bit though).
@micr0ps2
@micr0ps2 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nathan, this Michael from Michigan. Still getting better every day. Glad to see your videos popping up.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, so good to hear from you! Hope bear is doing well, he was such a big cat! Glad to hear you're still at it, let me know if I can help at all. All the Best, -Nathan Borton
@kudshirt6061
@kudshirt6061 11 ай бұрын
If you struggle with the C6 chords you can think of them as Am7 chords :)
@m.vonhollen6673
@m.vonhollen6673 3 ай бұрын
All depends on the bassist, I guess.
@thepartimemusician65
@thepartimemusician65 Жыл бұрын
Love this Nathan, wonderful channel you have developed.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@HeavyMetalStrike
@HeavyMetalStrike Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear expression!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@AlexVonCrank
@AlexVonCrank 10 ай бұрын
Barry strikes again. I know it's not his system but he made a meal out of the 6th/diminished approach to wonderful effect. I didn't realise Wes was using this approach too.
@notjonpeavey
@notjonpeavey 11 ай бұрын
Hey! Great lesson! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jarediledundee
@jarediledundee Жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson, great video production. Bravo and thank you!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@unclenote
@unclenote Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Nathan!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that :)
@abcde3397
@abcde3397 Жыл бұрын
thanks for another great video!! and I love the new recording style🤌
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that :) Still trying to find the perfect set up but I really like where it's headed!
@GamerGeekThug
@GamerGeekThug Жыл бұрын
I have a question. If youre playing over a major chord do you have to use a major 6 chord in order for this method of playing to work or is a major 7 chord ok as well? This was a great and informative lesson! I will incorprate this into my playing.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
You could use major 7 if you would like! It’s fun to mix up the inversions and the shapes with major 6 and major 7 :) there’s no rules, only your ear!
@MrMusicgenius
@MrMusicgenius 11 ай бұрын
Also if you go up a fifth of the chord and play major 6 you get a major 9 sound. Ex Cmajor go up 5th play Gmajor 6 = g,b,d,e. Rootless Cmajor9
@HoratioLindez
@HoratioLindez Жыл бұрын
Awesome, Nathan!!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@tonyhirving8375
@tonyhirving8375 8 ай бұрын
This very helpful, Nathen.
@andyshaughnessy1520
@andyshaughnessy1520 11 ай бұрын
Damn, I kind of grasp part of this. I'm going to be throwing in the different inversions of the VI at our next gig...that should work great on an outro. Great teaching!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate that :) Hope it helps you!
@guitariste47
@guitariste47 6 ай бұрын
Amazing; i am a little bit familiar with concept, also called Barry Harris scale if I am correct. It encourages me to use it as chord molodies.but it is a lot of work because jazz standards use a lot of differentt chords
@samgrant4827
@samgrant4827 11 ай бұрын
great lesson and examples dude :)
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, appreciate you watching!
@MaukaMelodies
@MaukaMelodies Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Nice camera work and great block chords. I’m going to apply this to ukulele. Mahalo
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!🙏
@a.sarfer
@a.sarfer 11 ай бұрын
Great lesson!!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rickhandel336
@rickhandel336 Жыл бұрын
For the lick at 7:19, you are basically thinking A-7 over the D-7, correct? I noticed that you are playing A-7 and its associated passing diminished chords rather than D-7. I would not have thought of using those diminshed chords over a D-7. I understand the extensions that the A-7 voicing gives relative to D. You end up with a 9th and 11th. Very cool!
@WmAndrewWynn
@WmAndrewWynn Жыл бұрын
great analysis! tell us about your lamp too! love the colors
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! The RBG lights set a vibe I think? haha just a couple groove lights from amazon is all
@patandmacmusic
@patandmacmusic Жыл бұрын
I’ve been searching for years for someone to make sense of this 😭 thank you!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
No problem! Really glad I could help!
@bmurray4882
@bmurray4882 Жыл бұрын
great lesson
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@Chai_K
@Chai_K Жыл бұрын
Nice and easy to understand, not too fast and overwhelming for some of us. Thanks 🙏😊
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you that means a lot! Also appreciate you watching :)
@bozakarlin9034
@bozakarlin9034 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching!
@davidsherwood6920
@davidsherwood6920 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@DaveBrownsMusic
@DaveBrownsMusic 9 ай бұрын
Awesome content man, thanks so much!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JazzStrat781
@JazzStrat781 Жыл бұрын
Great content 🎸👍 thank you!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! :)
@sega62s
@sega62s Жыл бұрын
thx, great lesson
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching!
@javierortiz767
@javierortiz767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson. Greetings from Chile.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching! Thanks!
@DizzyKrissi
@DizzyKrissi Жыл бұрын
well done presentation - thanx!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching :)
@joepalooka2145
@joepalooka2145 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Such an important part of Wes' sound. But I don't hear this sound as much nowadays as back then. Isn't this also the foundation of his solo lines too? And this is also a big part of his partner and friend the organist Jimmy Smith, who he made several albums with.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely! I think I still hear it now, but in more straight ahead cats like Bruce Forman or even young players like Dan Wilson. Thanks for watching!
@vadpen
@vadpen Жыл бұрын
Wow! It’s so cool! Thank you! ❤
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Hope it helps you!
@icymars
@icymars Жыл бұрын
Great content and upgrade!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Hope it helped you!
@guitarandknivesetc4219
@guitarandknivesetc4219 5 ай бұрын
like barry harris. thanks for this input
@TheLarryolson
@TheLarryolson 10 ай бұрын
Very helpful. A lot in 11 minutes. Would be very helpful to use a guitar with fret markers very visible.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 10 ай бұрын
Hi Larry, yes sorry about that. It's the only guitar I own (believe it or not) and I can't justify buying another guitar for just KZbin at the moment. Hopefully someone will give me a guitar to review and that could be the new KZbin guitar :)
@LarrySiden
@LarrySiden Жыл бұрын
Great as always. ❤
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry, appreciate that!
@rickhandel336
@rickhandel336 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick! Appreciate it!
@jorze79
@jorze79 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant lesson. Thanks a lot for this. On the minor chord there’s no major sixth, isn’t it supposed to have a major sixth on the Dorian mode?
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! The minor chord could have a natural 6th but then it would not be a ii chord sound but a i-6 sound (tonic minor). If you keep the passing diminished chords and make the minor chords minor 7ths, it works perfectly over a ii-V-I or an variation of that!
@mathtrixmusiclix4248
@mathtrixmusiclix4248 Жыл бұрын
Nice lesson! You really cracked the code! Question: Rather than voicing C6 on the middle 4 strings (which is tough to grab) , can you simply replace wth Cma7? Thx
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
I don't see why not? Wes often mixed the shapes as well!
@porterchappell7756
@porterchappell7756 8 ай бұрын
Why is there no diminished chord between the C6/E and the C6/G at 2:47?
@emmanueljordan4980
@emmanueljordan4980 Жыл бұрын
Nice lesson like usually. Really clear👍 Thanks you for this treasure of the master. I hope the best for you🎵🎸🎶
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks Emmanuel, appreciate you watching!
@paulgibby6932
@paulgibby6932 Ай бұрын
4:49 you're playing a Bb dim chord, but the screen shows a Bdim. Also would be more helpful if you used a guitar with fretboard markers, and played a little bit slower (though possible to slow down in the browser: I use the Transpose plug-in for Chrome, highly recommended)
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Ай бұрын
Yes, that error has been addressed in the pinned comment and corrected on the downloadable materials on Patreon. Also unfortunately I only have one guitar :( thanks for watching!
@michaelfrey3861
@michaelfrey3861 11 ай бұрын
One suggestion. At 3:05 to 3:20, the chords as annotated on the staff are consistent with the point you are making: ascending diatonically; adding a dim chord for each non-C6 note; and also adding a #5 diminished. However, the chord names you have written above are not consistent with that ascending pattern and IMO somewhat obscure the point. The teaching point would be reinforced if the chord names also reflected ascending pattern. Just a suggestion for an otherwise superlative lesson.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it!
@chrisegonmusic
@chrisegonmusic 9 ай бұрын
Man, that’s so clever! Will try to get it under my fingers.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 9 ай бұрын
Hope this helps!
@chrisegonmusic
@chrisegonmusic 9 ай бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic I hope so too haha
@boredflamingo1313
@boredflamingo1313 Жыл бұрын
Nice outro!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Also appreciate you watching that far into the video :)
@pickinstone
@pickinstone Жыл бұрын
An idea for a follow-up video could be a comparison of chord solo'ing and compin' for someone else. What chord you can learn from chord soloi'ng to apply to comping and how comping is NOT chord solo'ing. In past lessons with my teacher, we discussed the importance of clarity: time, rhythm, and basic voicings. When I explored chord solo'ing in the past, I mistakenly thought that I could use all the same concepts in my comping...and that actually got in the way of the soloist I was accompanying ;) Also, please don't call Barry Harris's method "harmonic generalizing." I think that there's A LOT of misconceptions of Barry Harris's teaching on the internet. When I first encountered Barry--I found cool videos on KZbin and thought--cool, now I know this stuff. Wasn't until I found one of Barry's former bandmates to study with that I understood the depth of BH's teachings--and that was well after I met Barry in person during those NYC workshops. Everyone says that Barry's concept is just "chromatic scale I learned from Chris Parks" (he's an awesome teacher, btw--but everyone gravitates to THAT video) and "just play the V." There's much more to playing the movements than that--even over the V chord--in Barry's teachings...
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a great idea! And great point, though the techniques are similar in comping and soloing using chords, the application is very different. I’ll put that one in the book, thanks!
@pickinstone
@pickinstone Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic Read the rest of the comment--I wasn't quick enough with my editing. There's a lot of misconception about Barry's teachings on the internet...
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
@@pickinstone yes I agree. I’m not the Barry Harris master but I was simply referring to the the general use of his major 6th diminished scale. I found that for me I use his scale to “harmonically generalize” and also to “expand a sound.” I made a video a while back talking about this, I would to hear your thoughts. (Attached below). Yes there are so many things people, including myself, don’t know about Barry’s method, however the little bit that I do know I put to great use :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXyvo5eGbLh2f9k
@pickinstone
@pickinstone Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic Apologies if I came off brash. I am still chipping away at the Barry Harris iceberg. My comment was more of a reaction to certain misconceptions elsewhere on KZbin. The internet can be a great place to share knowledge, but it can also be a place where knowledge goes to die.
@enricosenno7767
@enricosenno7767 Жыл бұрын
Please more about block chords🎉🎉
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know! I’m the mean time my last lesson covered joe pass block chord shapes off the blues if your interested: Joe Pass’ Chord Secrets To Elevate Your Playing (A Must Know For Trio and Solo Guitar) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnjRnZ-bo6pofdE
@jonbarnhart1947
@jonbarnhart1947 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video Nathan. I’m an intermediate piano player (with guitar distant past) so I am following 90% of this. You mentioned Wes would put a #5 on the diminished chord to aid resolution to the C6. So does this make the A flat in the D diminished an A natural, or are you looking at the D diminished like a G dominant #5 flat 9 no root (which would give a d sharp there so that makes no sense). Thanks!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question! Yes you could think about it as harmonizing the G7b9 off the b9 or just simply an added chord to create a natural flow into each inversion of the one chord. When you listen to the example with the added chord and the one without you will hear the effect this added chord has. Hope that helped!
@jonbarnhart1947
@jonbarnhart1947 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic Thanks Nathan! I’m still a little confused (sitting at the keyboard now wanting to learn these). If we want to harmonize a simple C major scale with C6 D diminished / C6 etc how do we specifically avoid the Aflat?
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
@@jonbarnhart1947 when you play an inversion of your diminished chords for G7b9 (V7) it’s going to have a Ab built into it, so it’s apart of the sound. Think about it was tension release. Even though you’re playing a G7b9 over a C major chord it’s going to work as long as you resolve it to an inversion of your one chord (C6 in this case). On my examples in the video, play a cmaj chord under them and your will hear it works even though we are not play purely stuff inside the c major sound.
@jonbarnhart1947
@jonbarnhart1947 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic ok thank you that makes sense! :-). I think this must lead to the Barry Harris Bebop 8 note major scale?
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
@@jonbarnhart1947 yes! It’s pretty much the same, just the application is a little different
@jeremyversusjazz
@jeremyversusjazz Жыл бұрын
basically, the barry harris harmonic concept. thats cool. C6dim scale change those minor 7’s to m6’s and its Cm6dim…basically plus the other cool stuff u outlined. great playing dude. jealous of your doublle time chops!
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes and no, it’s very similar but differs in application. Like the video covers, Wes uses it over the ii the V and the I differently. Barry’s thing is harmonic generalization while Wes’s is more so a melodic device. Hope that explains it and thanks for watching! (Make sure to check out Etude at the end for examples)
@jeremyversusjazz
@jeremyversusjazz Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusic gotcha! i shoulda said it “reminds” me of the BH harmonic thing…
@mellodc
@mellodc Жыл бұрын
It is similar enough that it helps to be familiar with both! Great lesson Nathan!
@kidpoker007
@kidpoker007 Жыл бұрын
So do we do the same with the Am7 scale which appears to be a cm7 in reality in the video
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. Yes, Wes will take this process and do it for the ii chord and the I chord. Remember that the V chord uses just diminished chords on half steps (covered in video). Is the Am7, your referencing, from the example towards the end of the video? If so it’s just the same process but now the key is G so our chords would be Am7, D7, Gmaj. If your referencing the fact that Am7 is the same sound as c major 7, then yes that also works. The chords for am7 could work over cmaj7 as well as the reverse. Hope this helps!
@kidpoker007
@kidpoker007 Жыл бұрын
ty@@NathanBortonMusic
@gokhantelci
@gokhantelci Жыл бұрын
Is this the same as diminished 6th by Harris?
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Very similar! The difference is in application. However most people use Barry’s scale to harmonically generalize (as is play one sound over many types of chords) while Wes uses it as embellishments over various sound (like on the video it covered his approaches on the major, minor, and dominant chords). Hope this helps and thanks for your question!
@LargeFont123
@LargeFont123 Жыл бұрын
Great production quality (with new cameras) ….Very similar to Barry Harris method. major/minor/dominant 6 combined with diminished chords…major6 diminished scale (#5 note to major scale) etc…
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! and yes, very similar, just the application that differs! Thanks for watching :)
@texaspete7897
@texaspete7897 Жыл бұрын
...now I need to go back and re-watch your other Barry Harris vids again...
@Lm9bar
@Lm9bar Жыл бұрын
On the side slipping section over a ii v i in C you just play diatonically in Am, does this mean we have two options over the two chord? Either play the shapes over Am or Dm? Thank you in advance
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for your question! I breakdown that line starting at 7:16. The main points of side slipping are between the chord inversions and passing diminished chords. The main line is based around diatonic C major stuff, but sounds more complex because of the side slipping between the chord shapes. Hope that helps!
@yoachelinnocent7963
@yoachelinnocent7963 Жыл бұрын
What is that chord on 9:41
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Hello! That is just a D13 chord with C in the bass. You could also play it on the higher string set D string -C G string -F# B string - B and E string -D
@jussijaako3132
@jussijaako3132 Жыл бұрын
Is there wrong chord in notation @4.50? You play b as top note in B˚7. Notation says c.
@jussijaako3132
@jussijaako3132 Жыл бұрын
Also 6.16 melody goes up to f, 13th fret
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes, those are errors. I appreciate you pointing them out... unfortunately I'm doing everything myself so things sometimes slip though. I will change those on the PDF's for the Patreon page. Appreciate you!
@jussijaako3132
@jussijaako3132 Жыл бұрын
Great lesson anyway! Thanks!
@jactodetarabilla2864
@jactodetarabilla2864 Жыл бұрын
I maybe wrong but I dont see like diminished chords, for me, I maybe wrong, these are Dom b9 chords, all are inversions of G7b9, for me a diminished is a passing chord but not in this kind of progression, most of the times when going before a minor chord, so , the key for me is always, and as a main rule for almost everything, what goes AFTER , if its a major chord it cant be a diminished, its a dominant
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yep you’re right, it is a diminished chord that implies a dominant sound. However, it’s still a diminished chord being played, so as an educator trying to fit as much information as possible into a video and still make it clear, often times things are left out. In this case someone will discover that if they dig deeper into this, but a lot of this these videos are to get people a starting point or interested in a topic.
@electronik808
@electronik808 29 күн бұрын
look also at Barry Harris minor 6th
@sega62s
@sega62s Жыл бұрын
0:42
@jadeowenhamblyn4405
@jadeowenhamblyn4405 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, a minor 7 is just an inversion of a 6.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes! I didn't want to include that nugget of information as to not overload with to much info. I try to keep the videos as streamlined as possible
@jeremydoody
@jeremydoody Жыл бұрын
Barry Harris 😊
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Very similar yes!
@paulwatsonguitar
@paulwatsonguitar 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I was just listening to Smokin' at the half note and thought I really need to find out what's going on in Wes's chord work, and then your video came up. Wow! thank you, great insight. It does have a Barry Harris kinda sound to it too but this seems much clearer and from a guitar point of view more practical.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
@christiantaylor4027
@christiantaylor4027 Жыл бұрын
WHOE . funny story. Wes came up with his warm sounding thumb picking style because his neighbors were bothered by his somewhat louder picking. If you don't know Wes you should check him out. Hendrix did and so should you. Just sayin. Rock on!
@-Dominique
@-Dominique 6 ай бұрын
Now you're talking 🎉 watch your kneck. You could tilt the guitar a bit
@ArchibaldJuneau
@ArchibaldJuneau 4 ай бұрын
You can lean
@jeffmaestro
@jeffmaestro Жыл бұрын
I play just enough guitar to not understand any of this. Lol.
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that! If you have any questions just let me know!
@jeffmaestro
@jeffmaestro Жыл бұрын
@@NathanBortonMusicthanks friend! It’s ok, I still enjoy guitar very much.
@mahieddineelhadj8451
@mahieddineelhadj8451 Жыл бұрын
KZbin ,i'll never buy your product when your AD is inside the video !
@NathanBortonMusic
@NathanBortonMusic Жыл бұрын
What happened? Was there an ad that was not weird? I want to make watching the video and enjoyable experience, but unfortunately I need the adds to make the little money I do :/
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