Natlans Final story and ending explained (Genshin Impact 5.3 Lore Theory and Recap)

[@Azzywrld224]

This is the worst time for traveler to not have a voiced line

[@JackalformerlyKnownasDjjjav]

Blame the studios

[@rohitbalaji2000]

Blame 4mosa they wanted to use ai instead of voice actors

[@fuzyfuzfuz2]

It was pretty jarring

[@julie7435]

Interestingly, he had all them voiced in Chinese dub 🤔

[@tekatosensei]

Say all you want about the studios but how has hoyoverse not dealt with this issue for what 4 months?

[@nineo_osix5049]

Heavenly Principle: Ok I have 1 Rule, Don't use the Abyss Other People: Use the Abyss Heavenly Principle: Wtf I had 1 Rule.

[@InkRose]

I mean, same thing as the Garden of Eden, no? 😗

[@agentese1285]

Heavenly Principles: Ok dragões, eu deixarei vocês vivos se não tentarem me perturbar: Nibelung: destrói o próprio mundo que um dia foi dele na tentativa de recuperá-lo

[@TmanAcc4]

Other people: then set us free from this prison. Heavenly Principles: no Other people: *proceed to use the abyss

[@CrazyAce777777]

I respect dawitt for being mad that his theory was right

[@Joonaur]

This entire quest was kinda giving "Together... we... are Genshin impact 😎"

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

IM CRYING

[@akeminade]

"i hear a song coming up, hit it paimon!"

[@asdf_asdf948]

You know what Ellie? We really were the Genshin Impact

[@GerriFuryman]

And thats the idea we saw from day 1, everything was about it, so i see no reason why thats the problem.

[@basilisk..]

That was the point of Natlan tho, thats what natlan is all about, their mantra is even "no one fights alone" I dont get the hate🤷‍♂️

[@josephineduval5477]

The archon quest had more power of friendship than in an episode of Fairytail 😅

[@FrigidMoonlight]

It's so ironic considering I just finished watching Fairy Tail today for the first time. I actually really liked it despite the hate I've heard for it

[@josephineduval5477]

@ it’s one of my favorite anime (you should watch fairytail 100 year quest it just came out)

[@SieglindeVivid]

I think the difference is Genshin its actually a power and Fairy Tail its just a speech

[@Awakened-guy]

This time it didn't had as much of friendship as the other quests. In this quest Mauvika said what ever the traveller did was his own power and he wasn't even had to be reserrected. And the wayob and the cheering of his friends where just emotional support. And the traveller was able to keep up with Mauvika with just his own strength. So Aether is now archon level. This time's enemy was way way stronger than everyone before. It took an archon and an archon level character to defeat it.

[@fuzyfuzfuz2]

I never realized the power of friendship dealt 1M pyro dmg

[@RaidenForEternity]

Not sure if many people noticed this but the Pyro Gemstone's discription still hasn't changed.

[@monadolifesaver5613]

it pissed me off

[@zelktheinvader7874]

I wonder what it will be. Must be related to the second weekly boss then.

[@Dazaiburger]

Doesn't that mean natlan quest is not over yet?

[@itsoup455]

I was getting goosebumps when Mauvika was reciting the description, like “oh shit she’s gonna drop the name!” only for it not to happen, really blue balled me

[@excellency8714]

I don't think it is over just yet​@@Dazaiburger

[@MrAT-bw9uq]

I think the Ruler of Death had seven eyes on for each archon but since hydro archons throne doesn't exist hence Ronova has six eyes now thoughts?

[@agentese1285]

Diz ela que os humanos atenderam às expectativas dos Princípios Celestiais. Será que tudo o que aconteceu até agora na jornada do Viajante foi premeditado por eles para ser executado por meio de Paimon?

[@agentese1285]

E então tudo o que foi planejado está se cumprindo, dentro das expectativaa

[@Saratheidklol]

YES! Believe so too:)

[@akeminade]

wait you might be cooking something

[@shadowpriest2574]

But then why does celestia not do anything about it?

[@demkadeem]

i get the fact people want action, but this is legit the first time the MC has been celebrated. I liked the quest, and the build up. It felt real for the humans and true end to their suffering.

[@kajoma1782]

"twink primordial one" is crazy

[@qwertystranger]

I thought Xilonen had a death pact from forging the ancient name, that Capitano would join is in the final battle against Gosoythoth, that Ronova wouldn't be offscreened and we'd get visual clarification that the paradox stunlocked her or will awaken the Heavenly Principals. Too many loose ends and ambiguity, here's to hoping the world quest with Lil' Buddy and the Great Volcano of Tollan will rival Jeht and Narzissenkreuz world quests.

[@agentese1285]

Despertar os Princípios Celestiais "tão cedo" não seria uma boa ideia, o cara ia ver o tanto de coisas desalinhadas e iria descer o cacete em todo mundo

[@Dinofrogg]

I could be coping here but maybe it was a translation issue? More of a figurative speech that she'd have to work to death to create something never done before. But at the same time xilonen didn't look like she had a hard time making it. Just casually walked it off. Or (another cope) there's more to it in the interlude and xilonen second story quest 2..? If not for those reasons, I think they fked up.

[@Rem560]

​@@DinofroggI think when it was mentioned that an ancient name drains the life of the crafter it meant the person doesn't get to live longer than they were supposed to. Xilonen didn't look like she had a hard time making it because it's not an immediate effect I think

[@Rem560]

It was a good thing that Capitano didn't fight Gosoythoth. The souls that he carries would have been corrupted by the abyss in the night kingdom and he wouldn't be able to merge with the Lord of the night

[@qizeaqfile]

I love the story of Natlan. I understand people want more mystery stories like in Sumeru and Fontaine that are more focused on specific characters Nahida(Sumeru) and Furina(Fontaine). A simple straightforward story of unity fighting against evil that has foreshadowed everything is fine by me. Natlan story is a simple RPG story that I always love. But I do understand that people want more stories like in Sumeru and Fontaine. Capitano has been handled fine by me as his epic introduction, then we fighting together in the war then his epic ending. He has more epic scenes than any other Harbinger. Still, I understand many who are disappointed in him because we can't play him or fight him and his lore is much simpler than the others. The story of Natlan is based on the collective people but I understand that people will dislike it if they want the story to more focus on the individual.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

this is put together well

[@captaindanger13]

I would've loved to play as Capitano, but I'm happy for him finally getting what he wanted. Finally getting the rest he deserves. Rest in peace, oh Captain, my captain.

[@Luna_LU6546]

I mean, the nation's motto is literally "No one fights alone". I guess Natlan was the friends we made along the way

[@snowfellwolf8280]

Full agree here, I am dissapointed that he likely won't ever be playable, but over all i enjoyed a simple we fight unified story line. I enjoy nearly all of the Natlan cast as well. I'm expecting nothing but treachery and gloom in snezhnaya so before we get to that it was a good pallet cleanser and once we get to the big crisis all hands on deck it feels like a nation at war. I liked it. That being said I do want the rest of the story to be atleast at the quality of fontaine and sumeru. That being said the big climax battle went way to fast. I was hoping to see Mauvika and travler struggle but it barely felt like that even with the small traveler on their knees for all of 2 seconds bit

[@mayamoon9207]

Fully agree with you. In my eyes Natlan's story is just completely different from the other nations where there isn't a mystery to solve but rather a crisis to resolve. I know not everyone likes the whole "power of friendship" type of story but I personally really enjoyed it

[@paje]

Before Natlan we had all the glazing from Varka, Mika, Childe, Arlechino, etc.. the literal first of the fatui harbingers with powers equivalent to gods being giga overhyped and all of that just to lose his first fight and never show any of that ever again, it's like hearing your dad stories about Mike Tyson being the GOAT and then watching his fight with Jake Paul. From that point on I knew capitano writing was off.

[@HuH22132]

He didn't lose he left the fight because mavuika punched him so hard his souls started to go out of his body

[@paje]

​@@HuH22132 could be but mavuika and capitano keep confirming throughout 5.1/5.2 story that he was the one who lost the fight, even in the end she says he gave up the gnosis bc of that fight, being "honorable" enough to accept defeat. That's why in the end she says "It would seem I lost this duel" making them even... it's soooo assssss

[@fuzyfuzfuz2]

But remember ALL the fatui harbingers are weekly bosses! All of them! Except dotorre and the ones we haven't met but Mavuika mentioned them. I dont think Capitanos story is over like we THINK it is

[@paje]

@@fuzyfuzfuz2 I hope so, he deserves more than that.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

​@@HuH22132 theory?

[@Quon]

They spent so much time dillydallying before the war instead of more Capitano screentime i cri

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

his handling was odd

[@elisewalker8590]

I feel more people would have been fine with Capitano's 'death' if he had had more screen time. But no we had to go to the beach again :)

[@raywa5821]

He’s not really dead

[@elisewalker8590]

@@raywa5821 that why I wrote out 'dead'

[@larkaiio3376]

"we had to go to the beach again" is truly like this AQ felt T-T. During the celebration where people were applaoding us in the voice lines there was a single "yeah woohoo" not even a crowd and truly that sums up this flop nation

[@fuzyfuzfuz2]

I dont think his story is over though....

[@elisewalker8590]

@@fuzyfuzfuz2 I dont think his story is over either. i feel that they left avenues for him to come back.

[@ultima1594]

The most interesting lore piece about this Archon quest is that Ronova doesn’t say anything to the Traveler or Paimon, and also that the Traveler doesn’t say anything to them. This likely means that the Heavenly Principles know about the Traveler’s journey and whatever is happening with Paimon (I firmly believe she is connected to Phanes), or that they aren’t and Ronova only was awakened by the the ritual Mauvika used, or that Ronova doesn’t care.

[@konata736]

I want to believe that since the Heavenly Principles who is a Desensender is asleep, Ronova probably couldn't see them.

[@kanicunny]

They reeeeeally needs to sacrifice both capitano and xbalanque just to glaze mavuika harder huh. Not only this was the most my little pony shit i've ever seen in genshin, both the archon quest and mavuika story quest clearly just serves to glaze mavuika because ohhh she is a mortal who achieve godhood please roll for her now, natlan sales hasn't been really good uooghh😭😭😭

[@Rem560]

Xbalanque wasn't sacrificed he was the first pyro human archon he died of natural causes. You might be right about Capitano but not Lanque.

[@cooprh]

the one thing I was hoping for was that they would try and cover up or wrap up the whole murata thing in one of Mavuika’s charecter stories. NO ALL FIVE OF THEM ARE CRAP BALLS USELESS ABOUT HER PAST. Everything we knew about natlan prenatlan was literally scrapped. Edit: Even if Murata was a translation, Vanessas whole tribe still ran away from someone, and venti was still hating on an evil archon. The comics described situations completely different from the natlan we have now, which hyv hasnt expanded on.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

lol

[@The.Viewer]

Wasnt the whole 'murata' thing a mistranslation?? It was supposed to be Mu-Nata or Mu-Natlan

[@Quon]

we still on 5.3, feels weird to be done with natlan this fast

[@B3lack_]

@@The.Viewer Trueee but the tribe itself still existsted. We don't even know why vannessa tribe moved to mondstandt in detail i kinda wish they explored that part of natlan history in more detail but i gotta be honest i think they tottally changed the idea of natlan

[@Truck-kun11]

Murata was a mistranslation

[@Roihclem871]

Maybe the achon quest is the time weve wasted all these years lol

[@coffeeking9565]

in my opinion, this had to be my favorite archon quest as a whole. That being said, i 100% agree that there are multiple issues and writing flaws during the quest. And i respect that people can have different opinions....(right? Internet?!)

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

hell yeah we respect it over here. everyones got prefences

[@qbanarik3465]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yo dawit, i kept thinking of you during this AQ bc i had seen your predictions vid. I also agree it was ass, very surface level storytelling, and very predictable. It lacked the suspense and elements of surprise the Fontaine AQ had. Other than Ronova's manifestation being creepy af, everything was a big bland disappointment.

[@larkaiio3376]

I'm sooo curious why you liked this AQ, not really in a pretencious way, I would love to like it and I wanna understand if there was something I missed, bc I can't tell if there is something with me wrong that this story felt so FLAT to me, or is the story just flat

[@coffeeking9565]

@@larkaiio3376 so I just started this year and basically blitzed through all the nations and I'm a quarter of the way through fontaine (though, the internet spoiled all of fontaine to me) As a set, I just like the atmosphere, music, and character designs the most. I think writing wise, sumeru was more deep- and fontaine is fun, but tbh in the last three years I've played and watched like seven britain/French inspired series and so I've been pretty saturated with the designs and themes fontaine brought to the table. Fontaine is still nice, it's pretty good. I dont like the water though 🫠 Natlan was something new, I like pretty much all the designs (ignoring the color and plot issues), and thematically it's inspiring to me. *and I think we can all agree that inazuma and prior were all worse than sumeru forward* Ty for asking

[@larkaiio3376]

@coffeeking9565 well okay, I guess I can understand as Inazuma is probably my fave even tho not many ppl agree. Sometimes the themes speak to us more. I feel like Natlan lacked depth and emotional weight that even Inazuma had with the atmosphere. But If u liked it Im so glad for you :33

[@danita122]

why tf Ronova just swallowed that? Cappy boy was so rude and gave her unnecesarry trouble with deciding what to do so there is no paradox. So... why didn't she just take Mavuika? Though, maybe it's just because Ronova is so powerful and divine that all these things are not important to her enough to intervene

[@picklesbruh]

Right! I was just thinking this I was so confused

[@Truck-kun11]

She has no control over how the payment will be made since it is a "rule" imposed in the world itself, all that matters is that "death" is delivered and the Captain giving his life in place of Mavuika is in accordance with the rules. In short, she was screwed by her own system and had no choice but to give up one of the rules so that the world would not implode.

[@BlairAnsor]

I think Ronova doesnt have the power to take human life and the death had to be of equal value of an archon. Which is why while the deal was enacted by xbalanque, xbalanque didnt have to pay the price for it and therefore neither did mavuika

[@CristianmrWuno]

To me it seems that Renova at least not in that shape, doesn't make her rules be paid by beings who are as powerful as Xbalanque, Mavuika and Capitano, so she took the L, I wonder If all other shades are such as passive aggressive with their rules since they cannot curse as the ones who control Celestia.

[@Rem560]

She said that if the person meets her requirements she will accept. The requirement was that that person should have enough value to merge Lotn.

[@YapZiHang]

Yeah the Natlan final archon quest had the potential to be peak fiction (or, at the very least, peak shonen anime which is kinda what they are going for I think?), but was not so well executed unfortunately......some thoughts I have below: 1. I initially thought we are gonna fight a whole bunch of abyss stuff in the night kingdom......like a whole ARMY, but there was only a few fights with very few enemies sprinkled here and there which made it a little too easy and meh... 2. The way the MC finally gets his/her Pyro powers is just meh and underwhelming......lacks a proper buildup. Would have been better if he got it in the middle or near the end of the boss fight. 3. The abyss dragon boss fight looks cool......in theory. But the pacing is weird and didn't manage to sell the high-stakes of the fight. We barely get to see the MC or Mavuika struggle, which can be improved by maybe phases where we control the MC to save Mavuika from a pinch and vice versa (a good example of this would be Kingdom Hearts 2's final boss fight). 4. The victory parade felt like a freaking unnecessary filler. That whole sequence is a pacing and tonal whiplash, even made me question myself if it was actually a hallucination conjured by the abyss dragon boss during our fight to ensnare us (which would have made the fight WAY cooler and give players an "Oh Sh**" moment when we eventually realize and break free from it). 5. The whole Capitano, Ronova, and lord of the night sequence is probably the best part and should have happened RIGHT AFTER we defeated the abyss dragon boss, instead of having the victory parade sequence forcefully ham-fisted in between. TLDR the Natlan final act is just meh and kinda messy compared to the Natlan war which was SO MUCH better. Genshin's peak storytelling still remains at Fontaine's final act and Sumeru's Samsara act.

[@ThelostPenguin0]

can't fucking agree more. I was coping myself saying this can't be it? this is all? I thaught at some point we where is some king of mental prison. This can't be it? Fucking hell I like the natlan story but to end it in such a way is just pure dissapointment. Look I didn't like large parts othe sumeru questline but the it managed to land the ending amazingly. This ended in a wet fart

[@alexwebber6663]

1. Agreed with this 100% 2. I was fine with it considering every other nation was more underwhelming I don't really see the problem. 3. Traveller nearly died and the Night kingdom was on the brink of falling apart... What do you mean it lacked high stakes? 4. Wow we get appreciated for once and you think its terrible filler also it was a distraction to buy Mauvika time to end herself this made perfect sense and you ended their 500 years of suffering of course they will be grateful. 5. No already explained above why your idea is bad would have been terrible to do what you suggested. Fontaine's final arc was peak stupidity don't meet Focolars, Nevu sends you away so you can't question Skirk, Focolars nearly destroyed Fontaine which was confirmed by the sibling that if the Heavenly principles was paying attention they would all be dead from a giant nail. The prophecy was just a giant whale splashing around all you had to do to save Fontaine was to get all citizens to leave the nation for about a weak. Nevu didn't really need your help. Other than your chat to Skirk and Nevu none of the story contributed to the overall plot. Also never answered why some of the Oceanids lived in fear in exile from the hydro archon it was implying that Focalors was going to be a more evil archon which never happened. Sumeru redemption of Scara is some of the worse writing in fiction I have ever seen but otherwise I agree.

[@fadil_mirai6334]

Hear hear

[@YapZiHang]

@@alexwebber6663 For points 3, 4, and 5, the main problem lies in their execution, not the general idea. 3. Yes the stakes were high, no doubt about that. But the way the scenes play out don't really SELL it. The part where the MC almost died didn't look and feel like it (only looked like he got hit and got transported...? it's a very brief and weird scene) 4. The idea of a celebration scene is ok, but again it is the pacing and execution of it that made it not feel right. "Rushed" and "out of left field" is how I would describe it. The photography, the signing sessions, the dance QTA......the whole scene just felt eerie and weird like you are in a "perfect and happy" illusion. Now if it were placed at the END of the quest after the Capitano part then it might be better...I think? 5. The celebration to buy time for Mavuika to do her sacrifice is......an ok idea. It can be done right but again, the execution and pacing ruined it. Though I feel that it would be better if Ronova and Lord of the Night appeared right after the dragon fight to claim Mavuika's death (cuz there's no reason why they can't) and then Capitano enters and the rest plays out as usual. Then after mourning Capitano's sacrifice, they hold a celebration for both MC and Mavuika. This I feel would make more sense. As for Fontaine, ya feelings of lack of contribution on the MC's part is kinda valid I guess, but I still liked the overall plot, execution, and pacing better

[@alexwebber6663]

@@YapZiHang 3.That is fair I don't agree with 3 but we all have different tastes and you went to the trouble of explaining your views and you did a good job. For example in Sumeru's final fight they made it very clear how much of a struggle it was againsr pseudo god Scara. I felt it was fine personally but nothing wrong with putting in more effort. 4.It couldn't be though because it was meant to be a distraction that Mauvika set up to buy her time. She knew you well enough by this this point to know you would intervene. I think the traveller was caught up in the adrenaline high of the moment and wanted to share the happiness with everyone. As me and you both well know they hadn't dealt with Ronnova yet so the traveller made a huge mistake here but an understandable one. 5. Again I have to disagree I think its possible to enjoy the celebration despite the jarring nature of it because its like a victory high so it makes sense all the characters bar Mauvika and Citiali were caught up in the celebrations because they aren't as mature and wise as those 2. Also the memorial was the final celebration of the story as you celebrated the lives as all those who passed. Despite my disagreements its simply because of how they chose to do the story. If they did the story in the way I wanted it done which meant Capitano accompanying the traveller and Mauvika to fight the abyss dragon. I think each idea of yours would have worked really well. For example 3. What better way to show stakes than an opponent pushing back 3 top tier fighters like Capitano, Mauvika and the traveller. Could have had some cool combination attacks with fire and ice. 4-5. Celebration could have certainly been done afterwards if like you said as Ronova appearing to claim a life would have been fine as Capitano was already there. I honestly think this would have been more enjoyable. Fontaine has so many flaws in act V I could write an essay on it we will just agree to disagree with Fontaine.

[@djampoucheukap1742]

6:42 Mr Dawit, I have somthing to say about natlan, now that I have finished the quest, and Mavuika story quest and I doubt I'm the only one who noticed it. Anyone else feels like lots of thing are missing? Pyro gnosis fate, which harbinger is coming next, what about the outcome of the pyro gemstone, capitano fake death, the fact that in Mav SQ she knew already the questions we were asking ourselves but never explained why, etc...? My theory is pretty simple, and I think it will be explained more in the future quests: I feel like everything that happened in natlan managed to somehow happens IN THE PAST. In fact, in the ignition teaser, cap and mavuika already know about each other, right before their encounter in 5.0 which is just impossible. The new tournament which begin is now a competition where "the winner will take all" which is not a "humanity survival battle" anymore, meaning it's the new tournamenr that take place now that the abyss is gone so it wasnt the 5.0 tournament but the 5.3 tournament . Even more, mavuika states herself at the end of the AQ the lines of the pyro gemstone: "We embark on a pilgrimage for the wishes of the people...." yet she didnt even finish the whole sentence with "if his true heart can be found in ashes, then...", same goes for the reason we have yet to discover about mavuika, even more in her SQ where she somehow knew what we were thinking all along with the traveler asking himself how this can be possible, and her not elaborating, as well as the other fatui joining natlan and the tsaritsa keeping capitano rank and place, mavuika closing someone eyes in the ignition teaser, etc... Something fishy is going on with the captain and mavuika, to the point where I genuinely feel like they both purposefuly used the traveler as a tool, IN THE PAST, to achieve a drastic change to a destiny they already knew or experienced, and that we arent even aware of it.

[@dominicwalker9720]

okay but family and friendship power is literally canon bc mavuika says that before we enter the night kingdom. she says that because it is a place of spirits and memories, the strength of will has more potency than in the overworld. If this game wanted to be my little pony for no reason then we would have beat arlecchino too

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

yes they reiterated many times in natlan the power of friendship. doesnt mean you have to like it. natlan was different from the other regions for a reasons, some will be hits some wont. its up everyone to decide what they liked and didnt

[@coffeeking9565]

Yeah, we see that in act 2 as well, where mavuika sacrifices mementos to spiritually free our characters from the night kingdom. Arlechinno tehnically hit us with so much emotional damage- it literally subdued the traveler without laying a finger on him. So it makes sense the reverse can happen.

[@captaindanger13]

@@coffeeking9565 subdued with emotional damage? traveler was being held in place by weird red strings. we literally see him attempt to break free from them and he couldn't.

[@coffeeking9565]

@@captaindanger13 red strings...of EMOTION?!?/j I actually meant when traveler looked into arlechinnos eyes and was immediately exhausted in their cutscene. But who knows. The liminal spaces of reality and the mind intermingle to and fro. Such may very well be the power of the crimson moon.

[@bossofdeath7862]

It would have been cooler in my opinions if Mavuika/Traveler descent was similar to how it was done in the chasm. The deeper we go, the more fucked up it gets and the very bottom we get the biggest lore reveal in Genshin story so far.

[@Truck-kun11]

Natlan is probably my second favorite Archon Quest right behind Fontaine. I would say that Fontaine and Natlan are on two opposite sides of the spectrum, with one focusing more on the individual characters and a more mysterious plot while the other focused more on the nation as a whole and with a more straight-to-the-point plot. One is not necessarily better than the other and which one you prefer will depend 100% on your preference, and I personally like both for very different reasons. (Note: And we still have an Interlude and Mavuika's Second Story Quest so there is still plenty of time to tie up any loose ends)

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

absolutely truck my friend

[@Hawk.123]

The abyss dragon didn’t feel like a final boss like the narwhale

[@lylusbadylus1107]

This quest had such corny moments, but ngl that hug between Paimon and Traveler almost made me tear up...

[@drachenlenn6580]

I personally really loved this quest tbh not everything has to be unpredictable and for me the story was shown to us very well

[@kirittv]

I feel like Dawit is mad Ronova got her ass handed to her😂. Heavenly principles be damned. The leaks already told us Xbalanque was going to be in a little body frame😂😂😂.

[@aperson6562]

I really loved how the first two acts of the Natlan aq showed the urgency of the abyss threat. Being thrust straight into a night warden wars and witnessing the flame stop working gave a clear idea of what was at stake. I feel like that was what was missing in the subsequent quests. It’s hard to feel like there’s a threat at hand when we spend every other moment partying or relaxing with characters. It also didn’t help that they threw in basically a filler quest for no apparent reason(it’s my headcanon hoyo’s wiritng team is experiencing some issues and the interlude was to cover up for some delay because it feels so unnecessary). I can appreciate the approach the were trying to take. Making us grow close to the characters and witness how happy their lives could be to make the effects of the war hit harder, but the execution just fell flat for me in the latter acts. The first 3 acts balanced it pretty well, but the finale was just terrible in that regard. So much time was spent on celebrations and parties that the sense of urgency and importance was ultimately lost and I went into the final battle feeling like it was just another hilichurl camp. Overall, it wasn’t a terrible quest, but it is probably the most disappointing for me

[@articus0560]

I’m still wondering what was THE SECRET Mavuika was gonna reveal us. Anyway I loved the mission, overall the ending with all the Captain plot and of course the final battle against the abyss and also Ronova appearing and being one of the most creepy things we’ve seen in Genshin so far. Also about Xbalanque, he was supposed to have possessed the body of a random child so this doesn’t means we’ll get that child as a playable Xbalanque. Anyway my biggest question is what was the secret that was gonna change our adventure in Teyvat forever

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

xbalanque is dead again lol. he just came back to check in one last time

[@captaindanger13]

I completely forgot about that... I hope that appears in Mavuika's second story quest, or any other quest in the near future because if it doesn't, imma be mad.

[@Jfernandez02]

"You got any good writing?" "we got hype moments and aura" "...."

[@Truck-kun11]

Hey, Dragon Ball shows that this can work if the hype is big enought lol

[@GhostEmblem]

Hmm, ok... how hype and how much aura?

[@aidanlyons25]

@@Truck-kun11 but Dragon Ball has good writing that leads to the hype moments and aura. Ok we may probably exclude Super in some cases

[@YapZiHang]

Nah the pacing and execution doesn't really bring out the hype and aura it's supposed to have

[@daizenmarcurio]

this wouldnt be much of a problem if we could skip dialogue lmao

[@InkRose]

Capitano really needed more screentime, man. His sacrifice woulda been so much cooler with more buildup. Also, he has one of the peakest and most unique designs in the game so him being playable was too good to be true--his design isn't twink enough for Hoyo to market lmaoo On a more game-dev-ish note, I think he would have been extremely difficult to make playable with his cape on, because animating capes like that in-game is hell on earth. You have to make sure that in every animation it wouldn't be clipping through his legs and arms at all times--and with climbing, jumping, swimming, running, etc realtime animations that can be really difficult. This is the reason why you're never going to see a Genshin character with a long skirt/dress, but in Star Rail you can, because they dont have to worry about climbing, swimming, and some other complex exploration animations. Plus, as the older game, it seems like Genshin only has five different rigs to work with for the exploration animations. Tall/short woman, tall/short man, and child. Still, I would have been content with cape-less playable Cap. But doesn't look like it's happening. 😤

[@HapPawhere]

They could just take off his cape when going into fight mode. Genshin Devs are too lazy to do that. Genshin is not the same again. They did Childe hard implement kits, but refused to make new hard implement kits or systems again LOL

[@HapPawhere]

I don't think we will get any gameplay improvement update LOL. They only improved life update to impress player's suggestion (CHINA players only)

[@HapPawhere]

+ they are making new games every 1-3 years. There is already one game in development after ZZZ LOL

[@HapPawhere]

Most of their previous games are abandoned with life update only to keep players only

[@HapPawhere]

They could add all of that thing you mentioned in unity engine, but they are too lazy to increase the cost to developing new things lol

[@IAmNotDiluc]

This entire archon quest took 12 years off my lifespan

[@Azzywrld224]

Capitano will be playable!!!! I say as they drag me away

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

LMAO

[@MissusFail]

You and me both, brother. I will die next to Capitano's throne.

[@akeminade]

NEVER STOP BELIEVING‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼ HE WILL BE PLAYABLE

[@aresxdlxix]

Im still waiting for signora

[@ANUBISseyes2]

Don’t worry bro Capitano was never confirmed to be in a relationship so he already has a lot more chance at being playable than Signora

[@Awakened-guy]

Well there wasn't as much of power of friendship as the other quests. In this quest Mauvika said what ever the traveller did was his own power and he wasn't even had to be reserrected. And the wayob and the cheering of his friends where just emotional support. And the traveller was able to keep up with Mauvika with just his own strength. So Aether is now archon level. This time's enemy was way way stronger than everyone before. It took an archon and an archon level character to defeat it.

[@communitygamer117]

RIP MY BOI Capitano. He dled a hero. Dawit I think Natlan's Archon Quests aren't catered to people who mainly care about character driven stories and interpersonal relationships. Its moreso for lore, world building, and spectacle. Regardless Genshin's writing has always been tenuous at best to me. I'm here for LORE. If I only cared about good writing and enjoyable gameplay sequences then I'll play God of War

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

@@communitygamer117 id argue focusing on one aspect of storytelling doesnt have to preclude the others. especially in a game that makes money selling characters to people. youd imagine character driven stories would be at the forefront. and they were for the most part. theres a reason mavuika was depicted as some perfect without flaws character all throughout

[@Phantasm6969]

I mean Sumeru and Fontaine shows they can successfully do both lore and spectacle. Natlan was just a stereotypical episode of a shonen anime with zero nail-biting and absurdly boring power-scaling fantasy. Lacks the stakes of the previous regions.

[@516callersurge4]

@@Phantasm6969 Considering we spent so long with the Sumeru cast its expected, Doesn’t Sumeru have the longest Story time? And Fontaine too. I expect Natlan to do the same , so it builds on them existing relationships.

[@ItsOkayToBeThis]

Paimon being a sweet bean, the people helping us and us dancing was the only things that made me super happy. That and seeing Renova's eyes.

[@moe1083]

>be capitano >edgy mask design >first of harbingers >liked and glazed by your colleagues >referred as one of the strongest humans of all time >have hype >appear >lose at first battle with archon >be on archon’s side, fight with her >get respected >fucking die, killing all the hype, the design, his title, everything Hoyo botched capitano so bad bro

[@Truck-kun11]

Killing the hype? The guy tied with a Archon even though he was nerfed, helped save a entire Nation, became a legendary hero and WON against a Eldrich Being with its on power. Capitano did more than any other Harbinger

[@CristianmrWuno]

Except, the most powerful human was a title he always had, he was getting weaker and weaker by the time and was no longer the strongest human (Mavuika was), that's why he flee the battle with Mavuika, to protect his body which was going to be sacrificed to save the souls trapped on his heart. His title is alive, just like at the beginning of the quests, he only exists in the Night Kingdom, pretty much like how Ochkan was divided in mind and body

[@TaseJaw]

like they botched scaramouche

[@HapPawhere]

@@TaseJaw and making it an anemo user instead

[@HapPawhere]

@@Truck-kun11 nah dude, they killed every best design characters

[@OrangeBanana836]

Valid reaction ngl 😂 but personally enjoyed this archon quest the most out of natlan, on par with fontaine imo but it's different like comparing oranges and apple, I love the twists and reveal in fontaine but never cared for the nation and the ppl except for the playable characters and few npcs, whereas natlan truly connected with me as a whole nation, truly a different experience. and I kinda expected that xbalanque reveal lol that's the most anime thing they can do, I just know they wont show him as that big burly man, at least not for now, still hoping for this proper playable design, one can hope Edit: My only complain with the finale is that they didnt introduced another character like how skirk appeared on fontaine but since mavuika still has the gnosis im still hoping we are not done yet with natlan

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

that is worth bringing up. i will admit i did like seeing bona and coco once more during the finale in the night kingdom

[@OrangeBanana836]

​@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah and ochkan's voice is 👨‍🍳💋

[@The1andonlysharpshooter]

Columbina gonna snatch that shi right off her hands 😭

[@espix3767]

My personal opinion I was not interested in Natlans story quest one bit and that's strange since the previous regions I really enjoyed. It just felt like they had to keep reminding us that the nation is at war and the power of friendship is good, meanwhile we only see the war once and Mulani lost to a 4 star, but her that's just me.

[@FBl]

Everything in Natlan felt so rushed and disconnected, and the pacing was awful. I’m 100% sure it’s because they rewrote Natlan’s story.

[@RadaKadem]

They rewrote Natlan’s story?

[@Aur2714]

No wonder

[@professorzoom6318]

fun fact, if you haven't done the world quest with Bona she doesn't appear in the archon quest (in my case)

[@kirkshanghai]

5.3 was like 60% preparing for the final battle, 5% was the actual battle itself, 30% celebrating the final battle, and 5% Capitano. This was ass 😭

[@manjunath414]

My guy traveler had the best moment and best person to ask about the sustainer, and as usual, my guy was just standing there like a fool...

[@qbanarik3465]

True... However, I don't think he cares abt finding the Sustainer anymore. We set out at the beginning of the story to look for her in order to find our sister, thinking she was still captured by her, but since the We will be Reunited quest, we learned she is free and decided to join the abyss order, so our journey changed goals to traveling the whole of Teyvat to find out the truth of this world like she did, and then be able to reunite with her.

[@CPVideoDestroyer]

What are we? Some of kind of… Genshin Impact? ✍️✍️🔥🔥

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

lmao

[@Smithgsx1]

The fight against GoodSoySauce was alright, but i really wanted more lore and higher stakes and less Shonen Dominic Toretto "friends and family" tropes.

[@Jfernandez02]

They destroyed my two goats Capitano and Xbalanque 😭 never been so over

[@Astronenot]

Xbalanque mf been dead for millennia, people only got hyped because there was an unreliable leak that says xbalanque is a playable character 😭😭

[@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169]

​@@AstronenotThe biggest cope that I have been holding on for believing Xbalanque will be playable is in the drip market for the archons (+Neuvillette). Every drip marketed archon so far includes a quote made by a future playable character (except for venti): Zhongli > Raiden, Raiden > Yae, Nahida > Neuvillette, Neuvillette > Xbalanque and the latest, Mavuika > Varka. Varka's not a confirmed playable character, however. Though it's not much, a husbando player can cope 😭

[@Astronenot]

@@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169 the husbando cope is real, tis will be a drought for all of us 😭😭😭

[@berenwelter8835]

@@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169 If Varka isn’t playable I’m done 😂

[@Rem560]

Archons that are mainly mentioned in history have never been playable

[@sillymoonbeast7114]

I tried to describe what it felt like from my perspective but it escalated into a vent. What was said: the trio of archon hero and captain will fight together against the abyss in the night realm. Alone and split off from everyone, since only they are powerful enough and can endure the abyss contamination. What I hoped: A story of them on a long journey through the night kingdom. Working together, over days. Multiple battles to find a way to the core of the abyssal infection. Multiple revelations. Maybe with some scenes of the world outside, like with Paimon being alone for a long time, or the heroes battling the leaking abyss enemies. Then the final battle that directly involves all three, at the end of which the captain uses some trickery (what looks like betrayal maybe?) to assume Mauvicas death debt and make the dramatic end. Then his story gets shared as the victors return to Natlan. Hey maybe mavuika does die like by getting killed by captain for his trick, but because captain took the debt, the resurrection spell dramatically gets her back? What we got: Such a long setup with the captain dream thing at the festival and that soul collecting thing, to repeat things we kind of know already anyway. (Also Mavuika even teaches incense making to Ororon, to remind you how skilled she is universally.) We spend the whole party saying goodbye, then go to the shadow realm, where the goodbyes go on just as before for some reason. Then this goodbye party extended for the entirety of our 5min stay in the night kingdom, where we literally just walk to the bad guy, interrupted by even more goodbyes, however now of dead people too. Despite being all isolated from Natlan, we certainly don't get a single moment to ourselves. Note here: mavuica had to split off from the Traveller and do something off screen for zero reason. She arrives at mr dragon badguy *faster than the traveller*, despite him going the straight way there, thus defeating the purpose of splitting up. Just put the traveller on your bike if its so much faster. Or just do it all alone, if you were confident enough to split up in the first place? Its supposed to be mortal danger there. Instead we get the traveller needing help to walk through clouds by a guy we never met directly. Then these spirits stay behind since "the abyssal corruption is too much to follow" but literally a minute later we meet Chuychu, who apparently isn't affected. And then we just arrive at the big ball o hate already, who just has a default evil guy voice. Just him and purple rocks, nothing and no army next to the thing that made war to a nation for centuries. Start battle, we get multiple close ups of him becoming a dwagon (for some reason the camera never shows him at a medium distance? just uncomfortably close or far away). In the battle Mavuica never struggles. We get multiple power up scenes (angel introducing name first, then friendship is magic) until traveller can even get to Mavuika's visual power level. Of course she is never in the travellers shadow, every big attack they both hold the sword. Though she could do it alone probably. After all, it was the traveller getting caught lacking by the dragon, when Mavuika picks them off the ground (15:40). Again, why is he even there? No wonder they skipped taking the captain with, if shes just girlbossing all over soygoy with no trouble anyway. So the timeline felt like: We get motivated by friends. We get motivated by arena people. We get motivated by our friends again and the tribe leaders (but in purple now). We get motivated by the dead poeple too! We join Mavuika, whos already punching the ball, for 2min until we get to the tower and get more motivation. Then battle, interrupted by extra hard motivation by everyone doing the resurrection song. Then we get to fight it. Jump on bike, home instantly. "Thank god! You were gone for so long, let us party again." Finally we get to the Ronova thing. She just sits there in the sky waiting for someone to end themselves. Why watch and talk directly? She says it doesn't matter how Mavuika dies. Also why was it in Ochkanatlan? Imagine the traveller didn't beat Och-Kan yet, what was the plan then? There by the throne, Mavuika also just waits around for no reason until we arrive. Then everyone has to compliment Mavuica and say how she doesn't deserve to die yet. Shes perfect after all and everybody likes and respects her. Then capitano shows up right at the end. Somehow he can die instead of Mavuika, since the rule of death doesn't care who it is that dies(?) Ronova doesn't even try to talk him out of doing this. (That despite the fact that his death is clearly not the same value as Mavuikas, since his death is against her rules/his death is impossible.) So despite there being no reason he should be allowed to do this, he gets to sit on that throne, that somehow merges(?) him with the angel, though only the immortality part from what is apparent in any way. So now he is dead... or alive and still in torment, or not. Whatever, this is a good thing, somehow. Dont think about it. I think this plot, contrived and yet boring as it is, has just soured me on this archon. Out of all archons, the one human archon somehow is the most godly one of all. Wise, humble, skilled, strong, leader, artistic, self sacrificing, reasonable. Honestly try to find a flaw with her. It feels comical. Though its not the first perfect character in the game. I dislike Ayaka, because she is also just good at everything she gets shown doing. But with Mavuika it feels so lacking in personality outside of her just being good at stuff. We get told hobbies, each a different one to show her off as even more capable and amazing. She misses her little sister. She bikes a bike made by Xilonen, whos a good friend, like everyone else is. There, thats all I can muster about her. I dread to see what her character story quest will show me. Tl;dr me disappointed by paint-by-numbers plot made to fit in 1. mavuika glazing 2. friendship 3. traveller celebrity 4. getting rid of capitano and ronova with as little writing effort as necessary.

[@antiserenity666]

Personally I really liked the overall AQ in Natlan, I don't understand all the hate it's getting. While the finalle doesn't top that of Fontaines for me, I still really enjoyed it because I have liked Capitano's character since the start, and I liked his little character arc even if he wasn't on screen much. However when he WAS on screen, he didn't overstay his welcome and drag things out. I hope he comes back in some way later on (copium). While yes there is 100% some things i take issue with in the story, it didn't make me want to skip the dialogue because it felt so down to earth and realistic. Whereas quests like The Fortress of Meroppede actively had me skip dialogue, because it just felt so meaningless and repetative. I loved Natlan overall story, even if it was pretty different from the other Archon Quests. But I still get why some people might dislike it for being a little too out of pocket.

[@tukandev]

Bro glazed captain so hard he predicted the entire plot against RONOVA THE LOYAL SHADE OF CELESTIA and RULER OF DEATH

[@danielplesea9178]

POSSIBLE HOLE IN THE PLOT Capitano in 5.1 wanted to recontruct the leylines using the gnosis but failed to obtain it so he seeked out the source mechanism We learn that if he does that then the leylines will be reconstructed and then the LOTN will die and the rules will be erased. But if he did that wouldnt his plan to sacrifice himself be unattainable since the leylines would be pretty much normal leylines, the only difference being that they are not connected to other leylines. Lotn tells us that the reason the captain came to natlan was because of their special property and the fact that he wanted to change the rules to accept outlanders (he says so himself in 5.0) and that he tried it in other nations but it could not be done. So if capitano did that in 5.1 wouldnt he be fucking up his own plan ? This is a genuine question and i am very curious about it because it didnt make sense for me and i have been thinking about it for a bit.

[@cornycorn_8899]

I have always been a huge fan of harbingers and I do feel kinda disappointed with how they handled Capitano. I feel like he is not “characterized” enough, and he became sort of a “tool” character for lore and convenient plot advancement (in my language we call it 工具人） My fav is Dottore and I hope they won’t mishandle him like Capitano…..only time will reveal 🙏

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

seems like were revving up for another dottore arc

[@Truck-kun11]

I think they did enough, we got a good feel of his character and he became my second or third favorite Harbinger

[@lechungus1832]

Have you ever heard of a rumor that Blackbeard doesn't sleep

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

is this a refernece to something lol? all i know about blackbeard is they put his head on a stick

[@Truck-kun11]

My god, imagine if the big B has more than one soul and that is how he can use multiple Devil Fruits.

[@Jfernandez02]

​@@DawitsLookingforEmiliayou haven't watched One piece?

[@lilkaboomx]

I need some of whatever alc Citlali sippin on fr‼️

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

shes either a light weight or one the lethal stuff lmfao

[@GothremenBhason]

dawit, my man, I loved the story but I totally agree, even for me, I was watching reactions, and usually I skip the first hour (I start when Traveler meet Citlali for the ancient name) you have valid points indeed, the power of friendship is a little corny, and we didn't actually feel the stakes, because Mavuika's story quest was confirmed, had they actually lead us to feel uncertainty it would have been way better, and I thought the same, The Captain wasn't going to be playable.

[@BillyGurke026]

Something I don't understand is, capitanos soldiers were kaenriahn and pure blooded at that. How did they die then? If they can be killed by getting stabbed or sth, then why does the curse even exist. I dont know if I missed sth, but judging by this, everyone with the curse can just unalive themselves

[@winnie7668]

WOOHOO WAS WAITING FOR YOUR VIDEO REVIEW Some things I liked: 1. It was cool to ride our bike to the Night Kingdom hahahahah 2. YESSS OCH-KAN GOT ACCEPTED INTO THE NIGHT KINGDOM, finally away from that $!^+**** dragon Sage. IMMA BEAT HIM MERCILESS WHEN WE INEVITABLY RUN INTO HIM AT THE VOLCANO 3. Ronova creepy. I like. Also I loved, loved, LOVED how a rotting, barely alive human corpse looked at what is the equivalent of a seraphim straight in the EYES (hehe), pointed his sword at her, and said "SCREW YOU AND YOUR RULES". GOD I WANNA MARRY HIM ; - ; The stuff I didn't like: 1. Why isn't Paimon/Ororon vomiting in fear after seeing Ronova? Ororon was shook after seeing Gosoythoth, why didn't he freak out after seeing a massive creepy eye in the sky? 2. The fight against the Abyss wasn't menacing at all. Honestly the stuff was too good to be true, the fight against the Abyss dragon was like poking a wet noodle over and over again, the infinite MC glazing followed by MC's cringe dance moves... I was legit super creeped out coz it seemed like they were about to have a Penacony-style plot twist at the end. Like imagine the minute we stepped outta the Stadium everything starts glitching and we hear the Lord of the Night's weak voice saying that we lost... we died and we're now stuck in the Night Kingdom, all of this was just an illusion by the Abyss to mock us... But nope, all my paranoia was for nothing. Sigh. 3. We usually have a massive revelation or shock at the end of the AQ (Mondstadt - Venti getting kicked, Liyue - Reveal that Rex Lapis is Zhongli, Inazuma - Scara is a puppet, Sumeru - Descender lore, Fontaine - Sinner and Gnosis Lore) No massive lore drop this time. I guess you could consider Nod-Krai/Moon fragments to be the lore drop but anyone who pays attention to the game would've figured it out. 3. Capitano's ending. No comment needed. Although I don't think this is the end for him. He did trigger the paradox after all and the Icelandic draugr he is based after means it's possible he will awaken once more...

[@Dazaiburger]

Ngl i was excited when i saw 5.0 livestream but it gradually just died out at the end , i wish 6.0 comes faster now

[@astrea4231]

Dainsleif once said Gods can set curse on a higher level of reality (Gods here like meaning to Celestia). After seeing Ronova's appearance in 5.3, I'm now 80% sure Heavenly principle and Shining Shades are probably higher dimensional beings. Istaroth being the personification of Time also make sense since Genshin Universe is made up of space-time, four dimensional construct.

[@excellency8714]

I feel like Natlan is a big setup for how the game is gonna change so dractically lorewise. It is nolonger about a single nation/archon. Time for the stakes to go higher this year

[@lazyFox99]

I completely agree man. How could they fumble after Sumeru and Fontaine 😭

[@WhiteDragonOfLight]

Sumeru had horrible pacing problems. Fontaine was riddled with plot holes and logic gaps. It's a pick your poison kind of thing.

[@raywa5821]

@@WhiteDragonOfLight i think people have already forgot how much people hated Fontaine drop holes after the archon quest

[@leonakalionking]

​@@WhiteDragonOfLight Sumeru was kinda draggy but at least they nailed the ending, and the Samsara act is probably one of its best parts I only played through Fontaine around version 4.8/4.9 and I thought it's pretty great! If there were plotholes I certainly didn't notice them, might need to rewatch cutscenes to see what I missed

[@toopided]

natlan had a completely new team. Didnt you notice the quality of the storyline before and during natlan? it suck donkey king kong balls

[@cygnet00]

im hoping capitano resurrects like jesus

[@maxenite]

Capitano, my son! There must always be... A LICH KING!

[@kune6208]

So I am the only one who thought El Capitano became the Soul King? Like he literally became a shell for the souls of fallen comrades.

[@Keiki-kun]

Idk man the power of friendship was pretty hype And Mavuika still has the gnosis so thats also pretty cool and interesting The next interlude and Dain quest is gonna be hype with the things they set up in this quest

[@nagorepalaciosdelafuente]

Same just the fact that Mavuika still has the Gnosis and that Skirk is gonna be playable soon says a lot

[@ThelostPenguin0]

I liked the quest but it somehow felt rushed.. Feels like we spend more time partying then actually doing the quest :/

[@eternaleez]

if the heavenly principals created the leylines why was Azhdaha so affected by them as a dragon?

[@toopided]

mauvika got saved again and again. looks like being on 5.3 banner granted her immunity to death eh. so much for a leader to have people clear up her mess

[@Waifuforlifu]

I didn't enjoy the Natlan story all together...I wish I loved it like other people, I really did, but tbh I hated it. It made me appreciate Inazuma more LMAO.

[@_elynas]

Natlan so bad it got me missing inazuma😭😭

[@verdan6098]

Am I the only one that felt like as Capitano was giving his mega speech, Ronova was just rolling her eyes at this since it literally doesn't matter to her.

[@Hiquirio]

keep an eye in teyvat (Focalors breking the rules i sleep)

[@agentese1285]

É provável que eles queiram que isso aconteça

[@The1andonlysharpshooter]

I refuse to believe we aren’t getting capitano. He already has one thing over signora,,, an ingame emoji. This is enough copium for me to keep saving. As long as it takes.

[@annieslore]

idk npcs also have stickers ingame

[@The1andonlysharpshooter]

@ omg‼️😳 you think he’s coming back too?? Ahahaha twins!! 😊

[@Novemberry-yk8lk]

What was mavuika’s secret though? (From the travail)

[@ghoulknight1526]

We're not done entirely. We still have to see how the gnosis will end up in the hand of the Harbingers and the Tsaritsa

[@justinbailey1669]

@Novemberry-yk8lk "The victors shall burn bright while the losers must turn to ash" I think it was always just the laws of the Ode of Resurrection 😭 Which literally everyone in Natlan knows about, aka the furthest thing from a secret ever. Not gonna lie fam I'm starting to think they kept the Natlan part of the trailer vague because they had no idea what they were gonna do with the story

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

idk alot of things werent really elaborated on. for instance wasent xilonen meant to die when crafting the ancient name? unless this was adressed in her sq idk what happened to that with regards to mavuikas secret, if i had wager a guess, unless its something she hasent yet shared , then I think it was just the fact that she died and was reborn 500 years later. either that or xbalanques deal with ronova that affects every pyro archon

[@Ellie-Elysia]

@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaI did her story quest and I’m pretty sure she doesn’t mention anything about her dying creating the ancient name

[@Novemberry-yk8lk]

@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaalso I believe Danslief is contradicting himself, because in he said: “the god of dendro makes no arguement against it” even though nahida was locked up and not silenced, also for Fontaine he said: “she knows not to make an enemy out of the divine” even though focalors literally did that! So maybe this time it’s not a secret and who knows, the tsaritsa probably has love left for her people?

[@Ananda_Darwisy]

Capitano us the strongest harbinger and rank number 1 and he's Dead (not really?) he still breathing

[@lemonZzzzs]

I don't get the hate. Natlan is all about community and the power of friendship, so the final battle (and the journey to it with its callbacks to the various quests) is a good climax for that theme. The Captain's move, while predictable, is both on point for his character arc (as slim as it was) and also arranges for an easier transfer of the pyro gnosis to Snezhnaya by both solving the LotN issue (reducing the need for the gnosis, imho) and keeping Mauvika alive as the Natlan's human leader. It also arguable that he's not completely gone, and the paradox he forced onto one of the shades will have some followup. Also, the Captain's model is too complicated for him to be playable, so him not being playable was kind of obvious, imho. Then again, they could release him as the last character of 5.x (after all the teased ones are released), who knows.

[@chalo3427]

I desperately need more eldritch stuff in Genshin lmao I hope they amp it up (of course not too much) after this meeting with Ronova xD but honestly the first part of the quest was such a slog I can totally understand why it's there and I'm sure a lot of people must have loved it maybe just my patience isn't strong enough but the end of the quest paid off for sure and I loved all the cutscenes we got fighting the "Pyro Dragon" they were actually so good and epic imo PS I play with JP dub but damn Capitano's EN dub was amazing during the Ronova confrontation PS PS I can't fucking wait for your actual video analyzing all of this if you do (rofl) you are my favourite Genshin lore person ever XD

[@dexterkronos]

I'm lost and probably missed it whilst listening; wasn't Xblanque just possessing the kid?? That's not the real him??? Idk man I'm confused.

[@crammothy]

I quite enjoyed the Natlan story. I think the whole “power of friendship” thing was handled well as all it was was moral support that encouraged the Traveler to get up and not give up and it really felt like for once the Traveler got the love and recognition he deserved and it was nice that the Traveler wasn’t carried by anything during the final battle and he actually used elements in Natlan and genuinely feels strong. I am sad that Capitano died but it was quite a fitting death. It also makes the Fatui a better villain group as the one truly good member is gone. Arlecchino and Childe aren’t truly evil but you cannot really call them good. Also we have a dragon sovereign boss fight so we can kick its ass as much as we want even if it’s just the abyss

[@killuacore]

At first I thought the celebration for the Traveler emerging victorious was cringe, but then I’ve always felt that our efforts in other nations were under appreciated by their citizens, so it was really nice to be celebrated for our deeds so openly :) The stakes for this nation were quite high, so this victory is very important and freeing for them. I just wish that hoyo depicted the stakes more seriously so the players could appreciate the celebration more. At no point did I get the *vibe* that Natlan was really gone if we didn’t make it through. And Capitano wasn’t shown enough. For the massive game-changing feat he pulled, this was crazy less screen time. Look at how well they treated Scaramouche (my fav boy btw) or Childe or heck, even Signora in terms of lore she got through artifacts and the fact these harbingers appeared in at least two nations (with scara and childe coming in three if you count events). Which leads me to believe that this isn’t the *end* to Capitano’s story but maybe a midpoint. I would like to be surprised! And if not, this is some crazy coping on my part haha

[@onetwoand3]

it was the first time we could feel the importance of Traveler in the region, the hero

[@jesuisradmusic]

I kept expecting Gosoythoth to rip back into the middle of the parade part and start messing stuff up

[@DC2_Dare]

honestly i was fine with the final celebration, it just felt kinda ruined by the 15 other ones preceding it, took the impact out of my genshin

[@fuzyfuzfuz2]

I don't think the story is over yet though

[@killuacore]

@@fuzyfuzfuz2 it definitely isn't. The Tsaritsa isn't going to replace the first harbinger, and this plot didn't even include the gnosis takeover which we know is yet to happen. It's like how Sumeru had more story even after the main AQ because of wanderer and dain quests, and nahida SQ2.

[@TwoPixelsAhead]

I have seen the power of friendship coming two patched ago. I can say that I'm satisfied with the conclusion, but for the last act I had higher expectations after Act 4 and the Fontaine AQ. Overall, the AQ was enjoyable, but it had some big flaws. I just wish the last act was more focussed on the final fight and less on yapping. I know it was necessary to set up the story, but some parts could have been shorter. At least, Mavuika story was enjoyable. It is good to have some character stories leaning more into the sweet than the bitter-sweet. Citlali's story was very entertaining too. Both stories had moments that made me laugh.

[@The_original_one]

From the very first natlan archon quest it gaves of heavy shownen vibe.or rather iseksi vibe. Gosoythoth is the demon lord and capitano mavuika and the traveler is the heros.

[@b4u4ever26]

what about the great secret that the pyro archon was supposed to tell us proof that travail is no longer canon

[@cosmonautblues5999]

3:13 the way i went out and reached for a cop's service weapon midway through mavuika's story quest 🙏

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

LMAO

[@Jfernandez02]

I got spoiled on what happened and felt the same way 💀 not my goat

[@BingBong7778]

This isn’t the power of friendship……. It’s NATIONAL PRIDE BABYY🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@god_of_wine7013]

This was the quest I cried the least. And that says a lot.

[@silliiya]

it feels like the quest isnt over yet, i dont know

[@captaindanger13]

18:38 Aether had full murderous intent in his eyes in this scene and I'm here for it

[@Dundaclap]

RIP capitano mains

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

wait wait wait

[@Dundaclap]

@@DawitsLookingforEmiliawait with signora mains 🪦

[@MissusFail]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia There's no way Ronova is letting that one slide. It was a temporary compromise, but we've seen the 5.2 event where Sanka (Enjou) put that NPC in a forced meditative state and so his soul couldn't find its way back into his body and suddenly its very similar to Capitano's case. We know souls can be pulled / guided back inside, and we see Capitano's immortal body still breathing on that throne. Call it overdose but i think Capitano's story isn't over yet.

[@alter-naria]

im too sleepy to yap but trust me ITS NOT OVERRRRRR (trust)

[@Ishakai_]

(sorry for the essay but somethings need to be said) Yeah i love natlan cause it actually made feel connected into the nation as a whole, not just for the characters something fontaine failed to made me feel. I love Fontaine i love the whole mystery and plot twist and created but i cant ignore that it has been glazed just for act 5 and(2 if your paying attention) nothing in natlans acts made it feel unnecessary to complete from act 1 to 5..where is fontaine imm hold yall hands to this but nuevilette, furina and focalor SEVERELY carried the story Im one of the few people who actually likes act 3 and 4 cause story wise its cool i love the pay off in the end....but trying to complete in as in the game is pain..sumeru would actually make sense with the whole samsara thing like the game is actively telling you that yeahh your going to lose your mind here..but in fontaine? In a story aspect it just doesnt make sense Another thing that people had been ragging me about is me giving my perspective that THE WHOLE WHALE THING is really not good in narrative the whole "its just a pet " still makes it feels wrong or how SKIRK JUST APPEARED out of nowhere just to drop lore on us..i know dain has been doing that too but it would've been honestly good if it was foreshadowed and not us just making guesses she would appear cause ooh the whale is here ..(or the fact skirk was mentioned just in one time like childe whole purpose was to give a hint) Or the fact they completely dogpile on childe in the whole act hes either trap imprisoned or severly injured.there could been so much potential on actually learning about the whale here and not just reading it as a material. Thats honestly one of my complaints on fontaine the whole acts we spent with our characters but none of them give you a flat reason why would you put the effort in the first place to save the nation other than the reason of "its our home" the characters made feel that yes.but what about the nation itself? The npcs are either the snobby rich bitches and people who mind their business.omce agian i love fontaine but it has been severely carried by thatbsaid dark mystery and twist , i dont know if yall notice but every character in fontaine has some sort of dark backstory as much i love the narrative of each of those story i cant help to feel that it has been overused. Like if i describe fontaine as the nation with darkest plot cause yeah it was its not like theyre showing me variety in their story telling ( the one variety we have is not even from that nation or be raised there and its chiori) seriously chiori is the only sq in fontaine where someone didnt die or be dead yet. Another thing people dont even know that fontaine again in storytelling being carried by the narcisskreuz ordo and its sad..or even marchuesse phantom connection to remuriab Where in natlan all the world quest matter and tribal chronicles matter As a story it made me feel like actually achieve the peak experience for doing all that i feel rewarded the fact theres so many npcs that made feel emotional males you actually want to do everything in. Natlan to be safe The saurians our little buddy This was the most rewarding archon quest in the whole game Especially if your a lore player i dont mind the combat it doesn't uncesaary of cumbersome it feels just right. The tribal quest makes me be sad or angry or shocked and i love that even if isnt necessary about the characters themselves cause it was never ment for them in the first place and thats ok.ochkanatlan is absolutely amazing btw and the fact all the stories all that effort has been added to the finale? JUST PEAK the seelies, the heroes, the previous archons, xiachutl ,gosytoth, ochkan,chuchy,vichama,guthred all in there again i would never expect genshin would do that. Were all entitled to our opinions but all i can say is if you dont feel for natlan as a whole your not gonna enjoy the entirety.like its time to move on Story telling aspect i still love fontaine other than weird pacing it has sometimes or some subjects being not handle well or that it lacks variety other than being "dark" aspect of their story telling . I still prefer that over natlan..but when it comes to being consistent Over the past acts where nothing feels unnecessary to do as a player? Natlan had to top all the archon quest with that. in the end where you actually celebrated as a hero not just pat in the backs,AFTER FOUR YEARS!!? Liyue we got dinner and missing posters, inazuma the fact the we escape with our lives ,sumeru still being goated we actually have a celebration but only with our characters and we got info by our nahida, fontaine? Yeah no "after two days we just hows everyones doing i mean i know we in the story we didnt do much cause focalor got it all covered but damn ...not even a thank you or the best of all AN APOLOGY TO FURINA !?( Instead we got the most infuriating sq in fontaine la vaguette is peak tho)Yeah best quest 10/10 even with the weird pacing at times natlan actually teach you to move forward.and i love that simple straightforward shonen esque no need for plot twist or mystery . Another this is natlan isnt ending yet we still have one more tribe orgthe fact that the gnosis is still with mavuika

[@userAsiral]

Nah, I stand with Fontation (Fontainian Nation) solely cause they had drip. Had to save them from drip drip 😢💧

[@Saratheidklol]

FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED HOW COOL RONOVA LOOKED!!!

[@jazzhongers]

3:14 THIS IS SO REAL SO FUCKING REAL IM CRYING AT YOUR REACTION BECAUSE IT WAS MINE TOO BUT YOU ARTICULATED IT SO WELL EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A SERIES OF YES YES YES YES NO NO NO NO shit had me crying man

[@albepaidman]

Genshin developers just don't cook to well now with anticipated characters

[@GhostEmblem]

Western women want butch women, western men want butch men. I like my sexy waifus and normal build guys (Iwanted to say otaku build but they are definately more normal than that). Let the artists make the characters they wat to make. If you want a certain character type go ahaed and say but please stop getting an anurizm when it doesnt happen for the 88th time. If you insist on being karens about it then you are the same as the girls complaining that women are too sexy in video games.

[@The_original_one]

It's mine to like where is my goat of all goats him of all HIMs xibalanque

[@captaindanger13]

It was so funny too, but I'm just glad that child form wasn't actually what Xbalanque looks like.

[@loqiao833]

First rank harbinger killed in 3 patches after his first appearance 😂😂😂😂

[@GalarisTFM]

I don't get this copout, makes no sense to me. Mavuika's deal was basically to use the power of Ronova then give her life in exchange. It was pointed out multiple time that it's her death specifically what is demanded. I don't see how Captain making another deal absolves Mavuika from paying the price for using Ronova's power. His death was not the death Ronova seeked for that, so this whole thing makes no sense if you think about it. I accepted that forging our name didn't cost Xilonen's life despite mentioning before that it would, because the Lord of the Night's support and helping out(but I wasn't satisfied with that either. I honestly expected Tlazolli to do it instead as an atonement for the stuff she did lately, or at least mention that the help we got removed this requirement). The Captain's deal also puts us into kind of a pickle in my opinion. If the curse of immortality is dealt with, that kinda dooms Natlan at the same time as of now. But this I accept might change later as we not finished in Natlan.

[@windeen]

I don't care about action. I'd just like them to not pad it with SO MUCH useless content then RUSH THE PARTS THAT MATTER THE MOST! I was so angry by the time the quest ended that I even missed the fact that Dottore was IN THE AQ. He was not just mentioned. It also wasn't just his voice in an NPC. It was Dottore. His voice, what he said. It all matched Dottore. He was posing as an NPC. I forgot that he could alter his appearance on the fly. We learned that in Wanderer's Sumeru interlude quest. Dottore. Was. Right. THERE. And I missed it in my playthrough. I only noticed when I was watching BranOnline's playthrough. Though he seemed to not notice. As for WHY I was angry. In Travale Dain strongly suggested that we would FINALLY get answers to some things (I wasn't expecting everything to be answered, but SOMETHING). So I've been waiting for it. Act 4 was a 9-10/10 for me. This act 5 was a 5.5/10 (everthing before act 4 was around a 7-8.5/10 for me) - the low rating for me here, was because they rushed the most important parts and answered NOTHING of importance. We could see that was a moon in the sky. The only thing there that was new was that it was "dragon technology". We already suspected that the seelies were angels, though it was nice to have that confirmation in 5.1's patch. Nothing new there either. Dragon technology just proved that B4 Sun and Moon was a lie. It lead us to believe there was nothing here. No animals, no plants, no anything. Now we learned that it was a lie and had more questions than before. It would be nice if they'd at LEAST answer some of the older questions. THEN give us new ones! And the fact that Mavuika was human should not have had to do with us not getting some answers. We could have even gotten an answer to something from Citlali or the angel or even something in the night kingdom or from a nasty comment tossed at the traveler, by Ronova. But we got nothing of import that was new. I love the traveler. During all world, character SQ, AQ and the like, I MAIN. My. Lumine. But we could have had less parade and more stuff explaining what Mavuika heard about the descenders. We could have had less parade and more of Ronova's reaction to what Capitano did. She didn't get her way. Was she angry? On top of that: THERE. WAS. A. DESCENDER. RIGHT. THERE (unless the angel was somehow using that new ancient name to mask Traveler's descender status from her- would have been nice to know that. But NOOOO they had to include autographs, a photo shoot the traveler didn’t seem to want and a STUPID looking dance off that WASN'T a dance off then rush the more important stuff). The photo shoot, autographs and the dancing could have been a tell, don't show situation and I would have been FINE with it. I don't even like Dottore. But the fact that he was RIGHT THERE, is the only thing that might salvage this AQ for me, later on. His involvement in a SQ or another interlude SQ would be the only way to salvage the mess that this ending was.

[@Iliketraumatizing_Ocs]

I LOVE RENVOA and capitano death tbh renova looks amazing and it can really get me thinking how many shades are actually active i personally think all the shades are active but renvoa is the only one that actively shows herself the rest of them are just watching waiting for something what is idfk maybe that war raiden was talking about

[@CaptainoEi]

This is why I’ve been saying for a long time Inazuma is the real nation of war, Fun Fact - the person with the red hair helping The Captain in the War is the first Pyro archon

[@xcaedes]

r/unpopularopinions

[@agentese1285]

Finalmente a mesma opinião que a minha. Ainda acrescento mais: A Raiden (Ei/ belzebul) é a verdadeira deusa da guerra

[@williamwood5566]

Capitano hit the Loki S2 finale stance. 8/10 archon quest, second to Fontaine.

[@GLoLChibs]

The 5.1 and 5.3 AQ were my favorite quests in the whole game. I don't think the Natlan story is over yet. Mavuika still has her gnosis that needs to be retrieved for Tsaritsa to do her plan. Death now in paradox because of Capitano, so chance for Xbalanque to pop up again. Khaenri'ah still fails to acknowledge they had a hand in their curse.

[@mythito5120]

I think the big flaw with the story was its predictability, IF you had seen theories or thought from an outside perspective, which most people did not, it becomes so predictable, the experience with the quest is so much better if you dont take a step back and think, which is a MASSIVE flaw. Overall rating, 8/10 not as good as Fontaine, but better than Sumeru imo 10/10 for lore, 8.5/10 for writing, 5.5/10 for execution

[@The_original_one]

It have massive fillers. I think capitano needs more screen time.

[@mythito5120]

@@The_original_one He ABSOLUTELY needed something before his death, it was so sudden that it didn't have any real impact, basically it was "Oh look, its Capitano, oh he's dead"

[@The_original_one]

@mythito5120 same it didn't even hit a little. I was like oh well.