NATO vs Warsaw Pact: The Air War (1989)

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Binkov's Battlegrounds

Binkov's Battlegrounds

6 жыл бұрын

Who would have won if the Cold war went hot in 1989? This is the second video of a three part series, exploring the balance of power between two sides. It analyzes the aircraft, SAM systems and their orders of battle in the Atlantic and Pacific, theorizes about the course of aerial conflict and talks in general about each side's technology, doctrine, strengths and weaknesses.
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@AlephNull37
@AlephNull37 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Austria got invaded and still remained neutral. That's some real commitment to neutrality.
@zepter00
@zepter00 4 жыл бұрын
Austria is so small that author forgot to change its colour 😆
@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447
@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 4 жыл бұрын
@@zepter00 It's not that they would side with one or the other, it's that Austria would likely be invaded by both sides at the same time to open up fronts and channels for troop movement, meaning like Germany, they lose.
@zepter00
@zepter00 4 жыл бұрын
That Bad BLU Spy Yes.
@emirturkmen4524
@emirturkmen4524 4 жыл бұрын
Switzerland: "Are you challenging me?"
@victorlazari5708
@victorlazari5708 Жыл бұрын
Phaha....true lol)
@SeresTheZocker
@SeresTheZocker 6 жыл бұрын
No matter who wins Germany looses
@noblegrizzlybear5475
@noblegrizzlybear5475 6 жыл бұрын
And Italy changes sides and France surrenders. Aaaaannnnddd Germany takes the blame for the whole ordeal.
@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 6 жыл бұрын
Gentleman Grizzly It would be great if Italy sided with WP
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 жыл бұрын
Nazi Vampire Eating Babies WoW what a comeBack
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 жыл бұрын
And poland cannot into space
@alandesordi
@alandesordi 6 жыл бұрын
As usual !
@popuptarget7386
@popuptarget7386 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who sat in Germany waiting on the Red horde, I'm glad that nobody pushed the go button. It would have interfered with my drinking.
@pingmann
@pingmann 3 жыл бұрын
david edbrooke-coffin i like your clinking
@dasbubba841
@dasbubba841 6 жыл бұрын
This comment section is worth a Binkov video in of itself.
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 6 жыл бұрын
DasBubba da
@MartinLeong25
@MartinLeong25 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 6 жыл бұрын
To think that scenarios similar to this one were a possibility is chilling. Good thing it never came.
@zektre2059
@zektre2059 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@michaelharris679
@michaelharris679 2 жыл бұрын
@@zektre2059 a war between India and Pakistan would starve about 1 billion people to death just due to climate effects. A hot war between the US and USSR would make that look like a minor skirmish Edit: spelling
@zektre2059
@zektre2059 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris679 why didn't that many people die in ww2
@gaminglichgamer4035
@gaminglichgamer4035 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmurphy7011 The USA was the one to consider dropping nukes on Vietnam during the Vietnam war and China during the Korean war and went in for a show of strength first during the Berlin crisis.The USA and Soviets probably would've both aimed nukes at each other but honestly I doubt a nuclear war would be approved unless someone shot first.Nukes dropping on NATO countries that don't have nukes may work but honestly that'd only start if an actual attack from Warsaw Pact was initiated.
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris679 it wouldnt. look up kargil war
@kharn56
@kharn56 6 жыл бұрын
Vatican City vs Monaco please ! 💪
@kelvinpang438
@kelvinpang438 6 жыл бұрын
AntiochosSoter Just wait for a little bit under 2 months.
@roryross3878
@roryross3878 6 жыл бұрын
AntiochosSoter -YESS DO IT!!! ...the Swiss Guard, having overestimated the disarming effect if their jester costumes, had craftily planned for this dreaded day and reluctantly mobilized it's strategic reserve of snowballs from deep freeze...
@martinjuulandersen9694
@martinjuulandersen9694 5 жыл бұрын
Monaco would be raped like an alterboy !
@johan.mydeaf8203
@johan.mydeaf8203 5 жыл бұрын
allies for Vatican city and Monaco Vs italy 👈💪
@WRGOP
@WRGOP 5 жыл бұрын
The Vatican has a bathtub worth 2b :p
@mrs7195
@mrs7195 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to see land warfare in this scenario - it is said that the Warsaw Pact had the conventional land warfare edge in Europe up until about 1983/1984, and after that the balance tipped in favour of NATO, due to better technology and new tactics/strategies. And please, since you did Norway vs. Sweden, can you do Sweden vs. Finland as well...? 😉
@massineben7198
@massineben7198 6 жыл бұрын
As a *CYKA BLYAT* , I have a feeling that I am obligated to *RUSH B* after he finishes "NATO vs WP" video.
@kristinarain9098
@kristinarain9098 6 жыл бұрын
Fliyo MB stay cheeki breeki, blin
@akhashdhillon2159
@akhashdhillon2159 6 жыл бұрын
Fliyo MB tri poloski gang attack into nato territory
@tonyflores3859
@tonyflores3859 6 жыл бұрын
CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE PIZDEC
@Numaaaaaa1
@Numaaaaaa1 6 жыл бұрын
World in Conflict *intensifies*
@sgtmayhem7567
@sgtmayhem7567 6 жыл бұрын
You do a great job with these videos, I was actually breathing a little heavy, leaning forward and gripping the arms of my chair. Really outstanding, thank you.
@okandoguhanaslaner8863
@okandoguhanaslaner8863 6 жыл бұрын
damn​ mate, it is huge research to get this result. Good job with that. I m waiting for next video.
@gildor8879
@gildor8879 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite military jokes referres to that topic: Two Soviet generals are sitting in a bar in Paris when one asks the other: "By the way, who won the air battle?"
@kurousagi8155
@kurousagi8155 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been pretty funny prior to the widespread introduction of precision guided munitions.
@tvanb8729
@tvanb8729 2 жыл бұрын
In a world where Air domination isnt important that would be a joke, ha-ha. In pur reality air dominance is the deciding factor.
@ForAmerica4747
@ForAmerica4747 Жыл бұрын
@@tvanb8729 I agree
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
This didn't age well. Two Soviet generals might be sat on the east if the Elbe wishing there were some bridges lwdt ti cross
@kyjason6826
@kyjason6826 6 жыл бұрын
May I say that we should appreciate the work that went into this video, good god ! I dont want to know how long it took you guys to analyse and transfer this data into a realistc battle . I tip the hat to you people from Brinkovs Battlegrounds!!
@sufimuslimlion4114
@sufimuslimlion4114 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I do this type of analysis and research for fun
@leonardgrant6876
@leonardgrant6876 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, but I am pretty sure that Soviet satellites soldiers from Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc would defect a lot which would complicate the situation.
@voss0749
@voss0749 4 жыл бұрын
In 1989 Hungary and Poland would likely object to soviet forces going to war from their territory.
@metanumia
@metanumia 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you once again Commissar Binkov!
@majunior4623
@majunior4623 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I have been asking for this forever!
@massineben7198
@massineben7198 6 жыл бұрын
Shit is about to go down once that awesome intro start.
@arandompersonlol1202
@arandompersonlol1202 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always bro! Keep it up! Can you make Turkey VS Iran please?
@KouNagai
@KouNagai 6 жыл бұрын
a random person lol👍👍
@afridyabir
@afridyabir 6 жыл бұрын
a random person lol obviously iran will win❤️🤘
@KouNagai
@KouNagai 6 жыл бұрын
Afrid Abirov but without nuclear wepons, turkey win. Turkey has more tanks, planes, ships and soldiers than iran. And iran has lots of turk population. That can help turkey in war too
@KouNagai
@KouNagai 6 жыл бұрын
Afrid Abirov and turkish economy is larger than iran too
@turkishwolf9630
@turkishwolf9630 6 жыл бұрын
a random person lol Turkey Drop 1 Nuklear Bomb In Tehran Half Iran Population Death So Turkey Easy Win
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 6 жыл бұрын
Man, the animations for these videos are top notch, love it :P
@MasonicadaM
@MasonicadaM 6 жыл бұрын
finally iv been looking every day for this
@mississippirebel1409
@mississippirebel1409 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Binkov! Once the US introduced the F-15 and F-16 fighters to it's fleet during the Cold War, they pretty made every Russia fighter obsolete. The F-15 was by far the best air superiority fighter in the world and had a great radar, avionics and other sensors. The F-16 was just a nasty little fighter that could do just about anything you could think of from air superiority to air to ground missions. The Russian Mig 29 wasn't that big of a threat to either the F-15 or F-16, but if the Mig 29 managed to get in close, it could become a threat.
@gbornitz
@gbornitz 2 жыл бұрын
Till 1990 the F16 wasn't that great, as it had no Sparrow missiles. They only integrated the AMRAAM for BVR, which massivly improved its capabilities.
@dimitarivanov2562
@dimitarivanov2562 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@denvasya1986
@denvasya1986 10 ай бұрын
About MiG-29 is true. MiG was perfect for dogfights, but for long-distance air battle - no. However, soviets had su-27 which was pretty good for both kinds of air battle.
@hermannalios2740
@hermannalios2740 8 ай бұрын
F4 Near to Retrirment Nato say F4 were need you Back
@limescaleonetwo3131
@limescaleonetwo3131 6 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the ground war video 👍
@scottytoohotty8510
@scottytoohotty8510 6 жыл бұрын
Love your video Commissar Binkov!!!
@adamferguson8781
@adamferguson8781 6 жыл бұрын
Great series 👍👍 Looking forward to the Ground War Edition.
@wisnuwangsawardana6245
@wisnuwangsawardana6245 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Commissar Binkov, could you make analysis about possible late or post WW2 era conflicts like operation unthinkable or operation downfall?
@metanumia
@metanumia 6 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@darryljones3009
@darryljones3009 6 жыл бұрын
The Roman Empire vs Han Dynasty China in an arena war in the year 100 AD.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 5 жыл бұрын
The channel Metatron (focused on history) actually did something like that.
@ryankorte8601
@ryankorte8601 6 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! I love your stuff....
@calebmitchell6870
@calebmitchell6870 6 жыл бұрын
Great new production work!
@babyseals4872
@babyseals4872 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very interesting. I applaud the level of thought that went into this. I was surprised though that the existence of the F117 didn’t come up. It’s ability to operate with impunity (at the time) as a strike aircraft taking out key c&c nodes and such makes it quite a force multiplier IMO
@dave28bs
@dave28bs 6 жыл бұрын
Heya! Great video, how did you do your research? Could you pin your bibliography next time? Thanks!
@muhamadrasul9251
@muhamadrasul9251 6 жыл бұрын
Google
@chamathgunarathne3548
@chamathgunarathne3548 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome comrade you have done a great job
@pand9293
@pand9293 6 жыл бұрын
Great job Binkov !!
@siredwardheath4920
@siredwardheath4920 6 жыл бұрын
Two soviet tank commanders, old friends, run into each other while on leave in Paris. "By the way," one of them asks the other, "Do you know who won the air war?"
@rickychandler5013
@rickychandler5013 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Edward Heath without control of the air the Soviets commanders would probably be prisoners.
@lape2002
@lape2002 6 жыл бұрын
Air power is overrated. The Soviets would have controlled the air by stationing a shitload of T-72 and T-80 tanks at the conquered NATO bases. That's the point of this anecdote. The Red Army conquered the ground first then the air during WW2.
@markusweissenbock6337
@markusweissenbock6337 6 жыл бұрын
Because Germanys air power was forced to fight against the bomber attacks in the west.
@benyamaha4426
@benyamaha4426 5 жыл бұрын
Sir Edward Heath didnt get it
@zulfiqarhashim1376
@zulfiqarhashim1376 5 жыл бұрын
@@benyamaha4426 most likely the shorter the airwar , more the advantage is with WP.Longer the airwar NATO has edge as 1-NATO aircraft are more reliable and made for long hours 2-More available reserves from USA/canada 3-The initial WP strike will achieve their purpose likely but significantly deplete the strike planes and escorts available to them 4-Would be interestng to see if USSR does not use any su-27 in the initial assault and use the PVO + VVS flankers ( approx 400 + in mid-1989) as a "fleet in being " for a counter strike
@Teampegleg
@Teampegleg 6 жыл бұрын
Strange that you categorize the F-18 as Very Good, but you consider the F-16 as Capable. The F-16 and the F-18 have very similar levels of capability.
@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447
@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 4 жыл бұрын
@Mists & Shadows Someone's done their research.
@Braycali
@Braycali 4 жыл бұрын
Mists & Shadows holy shit someone who isn’t just talking out their ass in this comment section. You have no idea how much respect I have for you right. Good job brother.
@Necrodzentelmenel1
@Necrodzentelmenel1 4 жыл бұрын
@Mists & Shadows Where tf did you even got all that information?
@andrewgraham6006
@andrewgraham6006 4 жыл бұрын
Mists & Shadows fuck asks man that’s like a fucking easey
@asian_6724
@asian_6724 6 жыл бұрын
awesome! keep it up!
@dipdop9734
@dipdop9734 5 жыл бұрын
I love how non biased all of these videos are. He clearly doesn't have a preference for any side
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can tell by how many Americans whine. They're so used to propaganda that paints them as invincible even though they only fight third-world countries like Iraq and can't even win in Afghanistan or Vietnam.
@rick7424
@rick7424 2 жыл бұрын
@@AvroBellow I see a bunch of Warsaw Pact fans complain that he has a Western bias. Watch his video on the F-35 vs the SU-35. Alot of angry Russians.
@scorpionfiresome3834
@scorpionfiresome3834 6 жыл бұрын
Balkan States vs Turkey Can the balkan peninsula stand up to it's old enemy and subjugator?
@zrbbg9639
@zrbbg9639 6 жыл бұрын
Scorpion Firesome Balkans would win. Just my opinion.
@fionnmoules7620
@fionnmoules7620 6 жыл бұрын
Scorpion Firesome does that include Greece?
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 жыл бұрын
Turkish army cant even properly fight against ISIS.
@fionnmoules7620
@fionnmoules7620 6 жыл бұрын
Germanium true
@user-qu4yb5oj7v
@user-qu4yb5oj7v 6 жыл бұрын
+Germanium they are not fighting ISIS at all. They're only fighting Assad and so helping ISIS
@pablodelatorregalvez4260
@pablodelatorregalvez4260 6 жыл бұрын
Please, do European Union vs China.
@etherealkraken2662
@etherealkraken2662 6 жыл бұрын
*Nothing happens because they're a continent away and neither has overwhelming naval supremacy*
@aussieboy4090
@aussieboy4090 6 жыл бұрын
How do you invade the other side of world without suffering many casualties.
@xeji4348
@xeji4348 5 жыл бұрын
Both sides don't have the necessary replenishment fleet size to sustain a large fleet that far. Even the UK and Frence over seas bases have the capability to support a few ships at max.
@lightbox617
@lightbox617 5 жыл бұрын
Your graphics could be a little more sophisticated but your knowledge of history, current events and logistics is impeccable Thanks
@ryantogher8105
@ryantogher8105 6 жыл бұрын
Loving the new animations.
@rajc2257
@rajc2257 6 жыл бұрын
Do India vs China
@tobakroger7504
@tobakroger7504 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AnonYmous-dh2zt
@AnonYmous-dh2zt 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@aimenelhabry6178
@aimenelhabry6178 6 жыл бұрын
And the winner will be Bhutan.
@pablodelatorregalvez4260
@pablodelatorregalvez4260 6 жыл бұрын
Good one, although I think China would win.
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 6 жыл бұрын
Pablo de la Torre Gálvez maybe marginal.
@comradeiceberg7660
@comradeiceberg7660 6 жыл бұрын
What a great video series. Thank you very much for doing these Binkov. However I'm puzzled how you rate the planes ? The Mig-23 has got to be the worst fighter of the cold war , see the loss rates when operated by Arab armies. Likewise the F-15 has shot down over 100 opponents with no losses which makes it beyond exceptional . Great video all the same
@gbornitz
@gbornitz 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is based on the equipment and flight performance of the plane. The kill ratios of the two planes are not that useful, as they happend under different circumstances. E.g. the Mig 23 was often flown by poor trained pilots against more modern enemies, whereas the F15 was flown by well trained pilots against older planes. Furthermore, the US F15 enjoyed force multipliers like AWACS. Also the effectivness of planes changes with the number of planes. The 200 km range of the F15 radar loses part of its advantage, if you lose situational awareness, because the airspace is too crowded.
@lmyt1505
@lmyt1505 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video on this channel
@unclemirjafar5858
@unclemirjafar5858 6 жыл бұрын
Good Luck Binkov !
@NotTheBomb
@NotTheBomb 6 жыл бұрын
this channel is way under subbed for the amount of detail and quality they put into these videos.
@Admiral_Jezza
@Admiral_Jezza 6 жыл бұрын
>Warsaw Pact successful for the majority of the video >NATO wins What?
@nickcalderon2637
@nickcalderon2637 6 жыл бұрын
Jezza NATO would have won in the long, long, long run. However in the short run its a tie. Now as for ground military, I think it's safe to say that the Soviets had that in the bag.
@jurisprudens
@jurisprudens 5 жыл бұрын
If you look at the lists he provides more closely, you realize that NATO led in the numbers of good and modern aircrafts. Most of WP's planes were mediocre or poor. NATO air forces marginally win in this scenario, because it is able to deliver more damage to the WP ground troops than they themselves take.
@aaronlonghuynh5245
@aaronlonghuynh5245 4 жыл бұрын
jurisprudens Quantity over Quality is only viable with large differences in quantity.
@andrewfranciscohughes2481
@andrewfranciscohughes2481 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickcalderon2637 WOULDNT SAY IN THE BAG
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfranciscohughes2481 I would. The WP had the most potent land forces in military history.
@Lasstpak
@Lasstpak 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is pretty complex one. Especially when you count Soviet SAMs. During Yum Kippur SAMs alone had a devastating impact. But only during the static fase. I guess the way both sides would act and use their assist would mostly decisive. And defence tactics were mostly a plus of both sides.. I guess...
@devontemorgan672
@devontemorgan672 6 жыл бұрын
Yay a new Binkov video
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 6 жыл бұрын
When I see Notification I was like whoaaaa click click click .
@massineben7198
@massineben7198 6 жыл бұрын
13:21 I wonder what do the Russian pilots say.
@scudb5509
@scudb5509 6 жыл бұрын
Fliyo MB Ура! => Hurraah.
@scudb5509
@scudb5509 6 жыл бұрын
Хм => hmmm.
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 6 жыл бұрын
Fliyo MB in 1989 most likley I hope we get paid this year
@jurisprudens
@jurisprudens 6 жыл бұрын
Most likely, "where do we get meat today?". The "I hope to get paid" thing came later, in the 1990s. ;)
@romanbuinyi
@romanbuinyi 6 жыл бұрын
jurisprudens Soviet pilots were better fed and payed than ground troops. So probably they would have meat and payment no matter which year :)
@T_P56
@T_P56 6 жыл бұрын
I read about a Soviet air doctrine that they had to strict with ground control in very echelon shape, plus like in the video said that it could be very chaotic conflict. It is a downside for Warsaw pact that discourages personal decisions in the situation that need it the most.
@nahkoratan9673
@nahkoratan9673 6 жыл бұрын
This hyped me up to play Wargame airland battle and Wargame Red dragon.
@chkoti366
@chkoti366 6 жыл бұрын
plz..india vs china..video
@afridyabir
@afridyabir 6 жыл бұрын
chkoti366 if pakistan captured jammu and kashmir then india will be dead..
@afridyabir
@afridyabir 6 жыл бұрын
and obviously china will win
@izeiHH9675
@izeiHH9675 6 жыл бұрын
no need we all know who would win
@rajc2257
@rajc2257 6 жыл бұрын
Afrid Abirov but Pakistan won't capture Jammu and kashmir
@dernierergenekon5234
@dernierergenekon5234 6 жыл бұрын
1962
@BlazingSlav
@BlazingSlav 6 жыл бұрын
Poland Vs Ukraine
@user-rg5hz2hc9v
@user-rg5hz2hc9v 6 жыл бұрын
DJ Frank Poland vs Russia's slave Belarus
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 6 жыл бұрын
вампир кобато that's not even a fight, it's just Poland bitchslapping a minion
@afridyabir
@afridyabir 6 жыл бұрын
DJ Frank ukraine is already destroyed
@user-rg5hz2hc9v
@user-rg5hz2hc9v 6 жыл бұрын
Afrid Abirov Are you Belarusian? So you are Russian's slave hahaha 🙄
@user-rg5hz2hc9v
@user-rg5hz2hc9v 6 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko should go to hell. Why he doesn't side with Ukraine why?? Why he side with Russia?? Fuck Belarus!! Russia's slave
@avocedo975
@avocedo975 6 жыл бұрын
Its 1 AM and i just delay my sleep for this shit. Thats how much i love you.
@goalieman1830
@goalieman1830 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Reminds me of Red Storm Rising.
@artemmaltsev2
@artemmaltsev2 6 жыл бұрын
>"Soviet side would also use bomber launched long-range ballistic missiles" I guess you've meant "cruise missiles" not "ballistic"
@jurisprudens
@jurisprudens 5 жыл бұрын
No, he meant exactly ballistic missiles. "Aeroballistic" missiles, to be precise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-15
@butikegoloko3130
@butikegoloko3130 6 жыл бұрын
Phil vs indo.
@noodles7193
@noodles7193 6 жыл бұрын
butike goloko I hate to say it, but The Philippines would lose
@butikegoloko3130
@butikegoloko3130 6 жыл бұрын
MasterOfNoodles i just want to know how fast they will lose.
@carlgrau5910
@carlgrau5910 4 жыл бұрын
Good video
@SharyarJaleel
@SharyarJaleel 6 жыл бұрын
Hiroshoo comrade ..what an awesome details analysis 😀😀😀
@user-rg5hz2hc9v
@user-rg5hz2hc9v 6 жыл бұрын
USA vs California
@DaTurdburglar
@DaTurdburglar 6 жыл бұрын
вампир кобато california is in the usa...
@hello51319
@hello51319 6 жыл бұрын
DaTurdburglar that's the joke.
@DaTurdburglar
@DaTurdburglar 6 жыл бұрын
Abage im autismo pls no bully
@jaredwilliams5620
@jaredwilliams5620 5 жыл бұрын
Trapped behind enemy lines
@corvus8352
@corvus8352 6 жыл бұрын
Please do a World War 3 scenerio! USA+Allies+NATO vs Russia+China+North Korea+Syria
@eduardoraul5780
@eduardoraul5780 6 жыл бұрын
i think US has problems with all the countries in BRICS, they would probablly declare war in the US side too, and Cuba/Venezuela would for sure ally anyone that wants to destroy the US note...on this comment i was trying to be impartial, if i dont say this a lot of people would throw to me like mad dogs :P
@eduardoraul5780
@eduardoraul5780 6 жыл бұрын
but, again, trying to be impartial...he...seems to have a problem with russia, he has been trying hard to put russia down in every video he makes, and what i mean is that he dosnt put some good russian weapons, and some good tanks, have been classified by him as "ex-soviet tanks in storage" or something like that, he also puts a much smaller number on them and the excellent are classified as good, the good as mediocre and the mediocre as bad, so honestly, if he dosnt make a video where he puts what each side really has, and classify them correctly, i think it dosnt make sense to watch that video, because he will put a much smaller arsenal on russia side and probablly on the whole russia-china block, so that makes a lost war for them, anyway, i liked the world war 3 scenario idea :) edit: some people Said something about the logistics, and thats why he dosnt put the whole number, but i dont think so, but anyway, if he uses logistics, then use the same for both sides, its not like you are going to watch by example football and tell a team that its players cant use one of their legs lol
@CallsignYukiMizuki
@CallsignYukiMizuki 6 жыл бұрын
Asumming no nukes involved, this will be an interesting fight. US side would have the technological edge while the Russians/Chinese would have the numerical advantage
@chrisgaming9567
@chrisgaming9567 6 жыл бұрын
Continuing from what You Remember and Eduardo said, I imagine the other CSTO nations, Iran, Iraq, Serbia and Pakistan would join the sino-russian side
@dodecahedron7499
@dodecahedron7499 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@janningschrotter323
@janningschrotter323 6 жыл бұрын
An interesting question. I feel like I should throw flows at this dudes feet his knowledge is so on point for the declassifies and soon most of the stuff will be declassified.
@korean_empire157
@korean_empire157 6 жыл бұрын
South Korea vs Japan
@user-ug5mm5cd7z
@user-ug5mm5cd7z 6 жыл бұрын
GOOD
@korean_empire157
@korean_empire157 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but some of them are still arguing each other.
@xeji4348
@xeji4348 5 жыл бұрын
Japan has the superior naval power in this matchup, but Japan wouldn't be able to make massive landings. At most, maybe a few islands
@greenacorn1151
@greenacorn1151 6 жыл бұрын
Roman Empire vs Han China
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 6 жыл бұрын
Green Acorn why not the Zulu against some north American tribe?
@etherealkraken2662
@etherealkraken2662 6 жыл бұрын
*Nothing happens because they're a continent apart and neither has overwhelming naval supremacy*
@greenacorn1151
@greenacorn1151 6 жыл бұрын
Panda Boss He smushed the US and Russia together for the arena war.
@chrisgaming9567
@chrisgaming9567 6 жыл бұрын
In a real-geography war, complete stalemate. In an arena war, I have no idea
@megamonkey3708
@megamonkey3708 6 жыл бұрын
So cool
@zulfiqarhashim1376
@zulfiqarhashim1376 5 жыл бұрын
please let me know the sources you used to get the numbers of aircarft/SAM inventory for 1989 and their technical data.If you charge for it then how can I pay you ?
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 6 жыл бұрын
Putin vs trump fist fight.
@unclejoeoakland
@unclejoeoakland 6 жыл бұрын
Shivansh 2018 Nautiyal those guys are lovers, not fighters
@jesusf.2600
@jesusf.2600 6 жыл бұрын
Shivansh 2018 Nautiyal PUTIN WOULD BITCH SLAP TRUMP AND TRUMP WOULD CRY LIKE THE BITCH HE IS.
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 6 жыл бұрын
unclejoeoakland 😂😂😂😘😘😘😘😘
@maxstark4744
@maxstark4744 6 жыл бұрын
Trump has said on the record that he "doesn't believe in exercising" while Putin has a black belt in Judo and is nearly ten years younger ...
@Elementalism
@Elementalism 6 жыл бұрын
I think Putin could bitch slap trump. Be he will need a chair to get high enough to deliver it.
@ThaoNguyen-wq1dp
@ThaoNguyen-wq1dp 6 жыл бұрын
vietnam vs north korea
@gma729
@gma729 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE BINKOVS BATTLEGROUND !!! I LOVE THIS CHANNEL !!!!!!🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 GREAT JOB !!!!
@patrickgermain1643
@patrickgermain1643 6 жыл бұрын
The F-117 stealth plane was operational (though not in large numbers) by this time, I suspect it would have been used to good effect behind the front lines. I don't know if anyone already pointed this out as there are so many comments already.
@boukhlifhanani1219
@boukhlifhanani1219 6 жыл бұрын
Algerai VS maroco
@reincarnationofkurtcobain9449
@reincarnationofkurtcobain9449 6 жыл бұрын
Do Texas vs California
@deathphantomdaredevil
@deathphantomdaredevil 6 жыл бұрын
reincarnation of Kurt Cobain Texas would win cause there are more gun lovers and a lot of ex military
@reincarnationofkurtcobain9449
@reincarnationofkurtcobain9449 6 жыл бұрын
deathphantomdaredevil 9000 lol i know
@mickeyg7219
@mickeyg7219 6 жыл бұрын
deathphantomdaredevil 9000 California has larger military presence though, just look at how many military installations California has. Major military contractors, like Lockheed Martin has factories in California.
@newcreationinchrist1423
@newcreationinchrist1423 6 жыл бұрын
Mickey G so then it's not just Texans vs Californians? Lol
@jorgemrivera5973
@jorgemrivera5973 6 жыл бұрын
Super
@jamesmasonaltair1062
@jamesmasonaltair1062 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Fairly thorough and insightful. Binkov even laid out the stats and details. In conjunction with his other two vids in this series, well done! The importance for both sides of AWACS, AEW, and ELINT platforms cannot be overstated. A Sentry, Hawkeye, or IL-76 can control an air battle for hundreds of miles. Their powerful (air and surface) search radars enable fighters and strike planes not to have to employ their own active sensors and remain under EMCON. Sometimes certain aircraft can even target enemy platforms using the data from the AEW aircraft. ELINT platforms can jam and confuse radar systems. It comes down to those who can see farthest, clearest, and see the enemy first will almost always win. Especially with BVR attack capabilities, even in 1989. (For example, the F-14 Tomcat's up to six Phoenix missiles had a range of 100+ miles.) In 1989, and still true today, he who can aquire, identify (IFF), and fire first lives to fire again.
@Madplanetguy
@Madplanetguy 6 жыл бұрын
China vs North Korea
@nunyabeeswax303
@nunyabeeswax303 6 жыл бұрын
Our bases wouldve been knocked out with short range missiles. Soviet aircraft are easier to maintain in a war they could land on improvised airfields. There mobile air defense would claim a lot more of our aircraft. Tactical nuclear weapons would be needed to stop a full Soviet push to the Rhine. Simulations say 7 days to the Rhine river, then they would have to stop at the French borders. Baring nuclear weapons 1 1/2 months the Soviets would take all of western Europe.
@lape2002
@lape2002 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@markusweissenbock6337
@markusweissenbock6337 6 жыл бұрын
I doesn't help to have aircraft able start from improvised airfields in central europe. Plenty of concrete and asphaltet areas there. Heck, you could event start B-52s from a lot of the Autobahns. Much better infrastructure than the WP in central europe. High tech industry in every small city could out-manufacture WP countries by a factor of 100.
@m1garand903
@m1garand903 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just not true
@anastas11ace80
@anastas11ace80 3 жыл бұрын
@@markusweissenbock6337 that is really not true. you cant land a fighter jet on a motorway. you can maybe take off from one if its long and straight enough but that is really unlikely in most cases. it is extremely useful for aircraft to land on impoverished airfeilds. it is stupid to say there is more concrete than feilds and natural terrain in west europe. you heavily underestimate powerful warsaw pact industry, and overestimate NATOs industry as well. there were no "high tech industries in every small city" that is comedical thing to say. it is known soviet factories could produce much more and much faster than western european ones (mainly because there werent a lot of big factories in west europe) eastern infrastucture was similar to western one. but that doesn't even matter because planes cant take off from motorways except in very specific cases
@STOOFER2002
@STOOFER2002 6 жыл бұрын
where can i buy a binkov?
@rayne_brown
@rayne_brown 6 ай бұрын
Former R&D for the U.S. military here. His videos fascinate me. He has this unique ability to be quite interesting while having nearly no real understanding about how wars are fought. He is also fairly subtle when it comes to how he slants his videos to get a particular outcome. Which is impressive considering that he has little to no understanding about war.
@anrw886
@anrw886 10 күн бұрын
Yeah his videos are merely interesting theory I think, nothing more than just a proposed war game vision
@rayne_brown
@rayne_brown 10 күн бұрын
@@anrw886 kind of yes. He his videos make me think of a middle schooler trying to give a military lecture. Both amusing and strangely fascinating. Even when he gets certain points right he has no real understanding of what those points mean or how impactful they are. He stretches the likelihood of certain outcomes and lowers others in order to influence the results and make them believable.
@tristissimvshominvm8999
@tristissimvshominvm8999 6 жыл бұрын
Do Russian presidential airplane and escorts vs Air Force One and escorts.
@user-hn5bi3nw9y
@user-hn5bi3nw9y 6 жыл бұрын
actually cool idea)
@tristissimvshominvm8999
@tristissimvshominvm8999 6 жыл бұрын
Махамбет Мамыров thanks!
@williammarshal2190
@williammarshal2190 6 жыл бұрын
Tristissimvs Hominvm Trump and Putin jump out of plane and fistfight while falling.
@willbrack7069
@willbrack7069 6 жыл бұрын
Tristissimvs Hominvm Neither Carry weapons. He’d essentially be doing a few US planes vs a few Russian planes.
@carlbergquist6433
@carlbergquist6433 6 жыл бұрын
Sweden vs. Finland
@afridyabir
@afridyabir 6 жыл бұрын
Carl Bergquist definitely finland 🇫🇮 they have massive marine ship and air craft
@stalhandske9649
@stalhandske9649 6 жыл бұрын
Surely you mean Sweden victorious, then? Swedish air forces _and_ navy fleet are both far superior to us Finns, and have been for the wole duration of Finnish independence. Land forces not so much (though Swedes are a tad better equipped), especially considering that we have more guts to fight. I'm assuming the scenario would not be for this shameful period of 2010-17 when Sweden had its conscription abolished?
@marcusalm7350
@marcusalm7350 6 жыл бұрын
Stål Handske While abolishing the conscription may have been a really bad decision in hindsight knowing how the world looks now (and arguably without hindsight as there are benefits of the program for society in general, but anyway), it made sense due to the doctrine change. Going from a force made to defend from the invasion of a neighboring superpower to one of international peace-keeping was made because the superpower was no longer as big of a threat and keeping the rest of the world at peace made sure that consequences didn't spread to us (like hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the middle east creating the... politically interesting... situation we are in now). Would these missions worked and kept the world more peaceful than the price of the positive effects of the conscription program might have been worth it. But now with that price paid *and* our home region once again feeling pressure from the superpower in the east we got stuck with all the negatives and none of the positive aspects. Sorry if I'm rambling a bit. But analyzing decisions, especially bad ones, and seeing if they made sense at the time is something I find really interesting.
@alejoquiroga9369
@alejoquiroga9369 5 жыл бұрын
Sería casi imposible que sucediera eso porque ambos son neutrales, se concentran principalmente para la defensiva que la ofensiva.
@eyesofbattle6488
@eyesofbattle6488 6 жыл бұрын
Woow. I saw something which can make me crazy!
@aykutelmasvine-mk5wp
@aykutelmasvine-mk5wp 6 жыл бұрын
You are best of comanders
@mrwri
@mrwri 6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, the cringey comments...
@cv4809
@cv4809 6 жыл бұрын
Meester Writer Your comment itself is cringey
@mrwri
@mrwri 6 жыл бұрын
fuck you got me there
@senorhace4746
@senorhace4746 6 жыл бұрын
Meester Writer normie
@ledavalon7118
@ledavalon7118 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the series! But the Sea Harrier under "poor"? They shot down 20 argy planes with zero air to air losses in the falklands so surely they can't be that bad. Apart from that there's nothing to nit pick. Great quality!
@501ststormtrooper9
@501ststormtrooper9 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s because us Argentines had lesser skilled pilots.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 4 жыл бұрын
They shot down export-version Mirages that were fighting at the outer edges of their range and constantly had to fly back to get refuelled. Most of those kills were on planes flying away from them. Again, context is everything.
@revne6542
@revne6542 6 жыл бұрын
Which programme you are using to prepare this types of video?
@GuderII
@GuderII 6 жыл бұрын
comrade Guder reporting in ,
@michahunicz1741
@michahunicz1741 6 жыл бұрын
Asking once again - what with Soviet attack on Alaska?
@clpfox470
@clpfox470 6 жыл бұрын
Michał Hunicz you would have to get thur the terrain first, miles upon miles of dense wilderness, then Canada again miles of dense wilderness and lack of infrastructure. Supply lines would be thin at the very least and lack of transport ships if at all would make it not worth it
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 6 жыл бұрын
Logistics. There is nothing in Alaska, or in Siberia for that matter. Almost no infrastructure, virtually no centers of population, just milions of square kilometers of wilderness, cold, brutally unforgiving wilderness. Would there be action? Possibly, but neither side could hope to field and supply anything other than small units in either Alaska or Siberia. You would end up losing more people to the cold of winter than to enemy action. That is REALLY harsh territory out there.....
@RKNGL
@RKNGL 6 жыл бұрын
It would be impractical to challenge the U.S.'s airpower over such a trival territory. The U.S. Pacific fleet would leave any Soviet paratroopers or amphibious invasions unsupplyable. The USSR would be playing defense in the East, any incursions against the US their would weaken their defense.
@bluemountain4181
@bluemountain4181 6 жыл бұрын
They might try a limited attack on the ports in order to disrupt US oil production in Alaska. It would depend on how long the war was going to last.
@Marylandbrony
@Marylandbrony 6 жыл бұрын
I recall in the frist video that the Soviets had comparability few landing craft or spare ships for a landing anywhere beyond possbily Denmark or Norway. Besides the Soviet Pacific fleet would be too busy with the US Pacific fleet and the JSDF navy to do any kind of landing.
@abhishekguleria6893
@abhishekguleria6893 6 жыл бұрын
Vitamin vs USA...!!
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 жыл бұрын
Vietnam does not stand a chance against US if the morale factor is not considered
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
@ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 6 жыл бұрын
L N I think it was joke
@bobsink624
@bobsink624 6 жыл бұрын
L N US people lack vitamin, so they are all too sick to fight, ha ha ha
@bobsink624
@bobsink624 6 жыл бұрын
Germanium no way, it has been done during the 60s, Vietnam won, US lost
@mickeyg7219
@mickeyg7219 6 жыл бұрын
winters major Check the difference in death toll, and all the battles fought, you can clearly see that without involving politics or moral, the winning side isn't Vietnam. Tet Offensive is actually a turning point in the war, and guess that North Vietnam didn't win that one, but they won the war anyway because it was not about the military. When morale is not accounted for, then the scenario devolved into war of attrition. US has larger population and industrial capacity, so if there's no other goal than annihilating another's country ability to fight, then Vietnam will eventually ran out of able people to fight. Vietnam has about 40 million people (combined South and North Vietnam) around Vietnam War period, US has 200 million people. Average fit-for-service population is 1/3 of the total population, this mean that Vietnam has 20 million people and US has 66 million. US lost about 58,000 soldiers, while North Vietnam loses about 849,000 soldiers, giving a ratio of 14 to 1. Meaning on average, one US soldier can kill 14 Viet Congs. So in a war of attrition scenario, US would undoubtedly win.
@matthewwaddington2777
@matthewwaddington2777 6 жыл бұрын
7:20 Bristol Bloodhound; not more than four miles away from me!
@ImNtDead
@ImNtDead 6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how attack helicopters will factor in. Can't wait, love these videos.
@aris4rum
@aris4rum 6 жыл бұрын
Taiwan (+US) vs Mainland China
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu
@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu 6 жыл бұрын
PACT doctrine cannot always work and NATO doctrine cannot always fail. They both have pros and cons. NATO air doctrine focused on supporting ground units and destroying enemy planes/air defense systems by having tactical and precise missiles along with better fighter jets and PACT doctrine is focused on maintaining numerical superiority in both air defense systems and inferior fighter jets to defend their air space (and this is backed up by the fact they didn't care to have enough in-flight tanker planes to match their numerically superior fighter jets thus forcing themselves to perform in shorter range), how can you say that PACT will be able to push the NATO forces to the west? And as you said, most of their air defense weapons weren't really designed to be used as mobile units meaning they cannot be utilized in effective numbers in offensive operation. And since PACT air force cannot perform long range missions they will most likely lose air superiority when they take a step out of their territory. But because PACT has such numerical superiority in air defense system and old fighter jets, NATO WILL have hard time thinning them out and suffer losses yet no heavier than PACT. With time, NATO will gradually take control over the European air space. And I was kinda dissapointed when you actually said that NATO trains their pilot longer than PACT but they might train in multirole so no effect. That's just out right assuming.
@DaTurdburglar
@DaTurdburglar 6 жыл бұрын
Germanium it seems like in a prolonged war, the Soviet front would eventually hit a standstill or buckle under NATO air pressure
@TornadoADV
@TornadoADV 6 жыл бұрын
I think what he's trying to get at is that the air combat picture won't develop fast enough in his typical one year war simulations. The Soviets would have enough airframes and missile stockpiles to throw into the grinder for that time period.
@boltmix7359
@boltmix7359 6 жыл бұрын
Germanium I like how you ignore everything said in the video.
@scudb5509
@scudb5509 6 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. Soviets had a lot of mobile short range and long range SAMs that with the support of the Airforce could destroy Engaging NATO aircraft. Plus if the Soviets liberated territory. They will create a new position for the S-125 and S-75 and move it up within a day. The Soviets had a very well worked out plan to capture Europe within two weeks. Not enough to let Americans reinforce.
@scudb5509
@scudb5509 6 жыл бұрын
Plus Binkov is forgetting that during the war factories will be operating, so both sides will be able to manufacture military equipment. Just like the Russians did in WW2. T-34s fresh out of the factories went to the front.
@fw6938
@fw6938 6 жыл бұрын
When you want to do your homework, but Binkov publishes a new video...
@atharvasapre8578
@atharvasapre8578 6 жыл бұрын
Binkov is Great!
@mohammadsab4478
@mohammadsab4478 6 жыл бұрын
Naval force:Nato won! Airfoce:Nato won! Ground force:WP Hold my beer!
@CallsignYukiMizuki
@CallsignYukiMizuki 6 жыл бұрын
Basically this. It's only understnadable since US is the biggest NATO player (while Soviet is the biggest WP player) that NATO will most likely be on the disadvantage on the ground war. It's a lot harder to transport tanks and other equipment over an ocean than on land. If geography somehow changed and North America is literally next to Europe without a large mass of water, it would drasitcally give NATO a huge advantage
@markusweissenbock6337
@markusweissenbock6337 6 жыл бұрын
NATO forces were more diversified. This might have given them an advantage in overall tactics. The WP just simply had to adjust for a variety of different attacks while themself they were bound to strict ruling. Of course, that all under the assumption of non-nuclear attacks.
@communistcat3240
@communistcat3240 6 жыл бұрын
vodka beer is over rated
@NeoEngineCorp
@NeoEngineCorp 6 жыл бұрын
England vs USA The tea-drinkers insulted American footbal, saying it wasn't real football. Now, the burger munchers will make them pay!!
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 6 жыл бұрын
It isnt, its Rugby for wimps... When did you ever see a rugby player wearing body armour and a helmet?
@Rert
@Rert 6 жыл бұрын
But it's not football it's rugby for cowards.
@r.c.1881
@r.c.1881 6 жыл бұрын
Burger yeah, you're right, let's call a sport where you touch a ball first and foremost with feets soccer, and let's call instead a sport where you seldom kick an object with not even a roundish shape football.
@TheCJUN
@TheCJUN 6 жыл бұрын
He should start a historic channel. Habsburgs vs Ottoman Empire etc.
@hussainpainter52
@hussainpainter52 6 жыл бұрын
Shut up yank! Tea is love, tea is life and Football(what you wrongly call "Soccer") is thousand times better than Handegg (what again you wrongly call "Football")
@Shard37
@Shard37 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video about a conflict/war between America and the Soviet Union directly after Second World Wars conclusion with the alternative history being that Patton doesn't die? I'd love to see the logistics and strategies that may have gone on during that conflict. Allies of each side included of course.
@zer0f0x69
@zer0f0x69 6 жыл бұрын
do you have warsaw pact vs nato ground war video?
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