Navajo Nation calls for moon mission delay over plan to bury human remains

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7 ай бұрын

CNN's Victor Blackwell talks to Navajo Nation President, Buu Nygren, about the nation's objection to land human remains on the moon. #CNN #News

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@lingyjennifer8399
@lingyjennifer8399 7 ай бұрын
I believe, with respect, that the Navajo Nation (and others) may have to get used to the idea that one day, people will live and die on the moon.
@bigtic7937
@bigtic7937 7 ай бұрын
No one will live on the moon that’s a white man lie
@codeblood2000
@codeblood2000 7 ай бұрын
That's just like saying one day Humanity should get used to mass killings .. 😮
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
You mean the people who never came up with any kind of science are gonna have to deal with the fact that science now allows us to travel away from the planet??
@JacobManymules
@JacobManymules 7 ай бұрын
it's that we should look at the beauty of any cultures gods, or holy people (spirits) creations. In the Navajo culture it has its story's, we are in the yellow world with the sun and corn. By any means we all should respect and own up to it. not disrespecting it by sending human remains to a place of beauty
@lingyjennifer8399
@lingyjennifer8399 7 ай бұрын
​@@JacobManymules I seriously wonder whether anyone has given any thought regarding where the astronauts deposed of waste? Footprints on the moon, flags, old landing craft, the remnants of past visits, etc., basically junk. And they're worried about human remains, possibly the least egregious of those left, desecrating their moon god(s)? please...
@ScottRobinson76
@ScottRobinson76 7 ай бұрын
If the USA tells these companies they can't do this, the companies will just move to a country that won't care what the Navajo Nation has to say.
@DaleHartley
@DaleHartley 6 ай бұрын
the government cannot really do that. Unless they want to make new laws to regulate it, or cease it.
@deannelson9565
@deannelson9565 6 ай бұрын
@@user-zm6qj9cz7b what countries
@dylldobaggins4594
@dylldobaggins4594 6 ай бұрын
@@user-zm6qj9cz7b What does India have to do with companies moving to ‘those’ countries?
@deannelson9565
@deannelson9565 6 ай бұрын
@@Anedime no they're called countries that don't worship a fucking rock
@dalailama9132
@dalailama9132 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely wright about that.. Maybe NAVAJO INDIANS ARE SPIES CHINESE 🇨🇳 SPIES
@rrcDTD2013
@rrcDTD2013 7 ай бұрын
Although I don’t necessarily think any culture should be able to claim the moon as “theirs”. I just don’t think we should start filling the moon/space with our waste in general.
@jrrarglblarg9241
@jrrarglblarg9241 7 ай бұрын
Have you even watched Apollo footage? From a tidy-camping perspective, how they cleaned the vehicle before leaving the moon was offensive. In at least one mission they threw things as far as they could, just for yeee-haw value.
@donnadavis416
@donnadavis416 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, especially since humans have not taken care of Earth.
@t.r.campbell6585
@t.r.campbell6585 7 ай бұрын
@@jrrarglblarg9241. They threw Moonrocks. They did not throw waste or garbage.
@DannyMancheno
@DannyMancheno 7 ай бұрын
@@jrrarglblarg9241Ok? Is that grounds for more trash?
@doubleslit9513
@doubleslit9513 7 ай бұрын
Now human DNA is waste? Maybe if it were a little Shih Tzu doggy’s DNA you’d be more interested?
@exceedmg2979
@exceedmg2979 7 ай бұрын
Waste on the moon is not a good idea.
@burger322
@burger322 7 ай бұрын
why would anyone send cremated people to the moon anyway😭
@clayoreilly4553
@clayoreilly4553 7 ай бұрын
M-O-N-E-Y!! Does that answer your question? Oh! And I forgot to mention ... Foolishness!
@lmamakos
@lmamakos 7 ай бұрын
@@clayoreilly4553 Is it really significantly different from all the money that gets spent to put dead bodies into the ground, wrapped in multiple containers? Here everyone is concerned about a few grams of incerated, inert material being dropped on the moon. Meanwhile, how much space is wasted on earth by all these cemataries storing the remains of the dead? So many corpses pumped full of chemicals to inhibit any decomposition, just lingering and contaminating the ground that could be used to grow crops. Yeah, dropping ashes on the moon is a huge problem.
@burger322
@burger322 7 ай бұрын
​@@clayoreilly4553fax
@burger322
@burger322 7 ай бұрын
@clayoreilly4553 like I don't wanna see dead people when I look at the moon😭
@TheTTGibson
@TheTTGibson 7 ай бұрын
The Navajo nation doesn’t own the moon, it belongs to all of humanity
@angelikalindenau943
@angelikalindenau943 7 ай бұрын
I don't want any ashes of strangers on my piece, either!
@Houman95
@Houman95 7 ай бұрын
Actually it belongs to no one! I'm more furious why NASA and Biden administration even listen to these horse shits!
@rc6888
@rc6888 7 ай бұрын
Neither does NASA
@TheTTGibson
@TheTTGibson 7 ай бұрын
@@rc6888 your absolutely right, which means anybody with a space shuttle has the right to go the moon and bury the dead
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 7 ай бұрын
Yes, but aside from that, why should be dump the ashes of dead people there? Its just a expensive fancy shtick for people who can afford it.
@-er-un1wt
@-er-un1wt 7 ай бұрын
We live in a clown world.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
Not a clown world, satan's world.
@barbarawoodward6794
@barbarawoodward6794 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676If you mean Trump’s world you’re absolutely correct!
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
@@barbarawoodward6794You're a lost soul among the masses.
@Randy-jz9ox
@Randy-jz9ox 7 ай бұрын
​@@barbarawoodward6794 pull my finger
@23merlino
@23merlino 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676 - and you are truly gaga...
@cc8751
@cc8751 7 ай бұрын
This guy should focus on the gangs that run the Navajo reservation and make its citizens unsafe.
@tstevens6942
@tstevens6942 7 ай бұрын
Not only but elders, water issues and so much more!!!!
@JasonBoyce
@JasonBoyce 7 ай бұрын
I mean, I definitely agree we shouldn’t be turning the moon into a giant graveyard. That’s pretty dumb. I’m not gonna lose sleep over it, but the moon should belong to everyone or no one
@johnnynephrite6147
@johnnynephrite6147 7 ай бұрын
B*tch, that moon is mine!
@taddytass4318
@taddytass4318 7 ай бұрын
That's the way it's always been, who owns Antarctica!?! There's a show called For All Mankind and it's all about claims & who owns what @kylekyle9618
@deanyt3697
@deanyt3697 7 ай бұрын
Yeah go tell China that, see how much they laugh.
@covfefe1787
@covfefe1787 7 ай бұрын
why should they have a say are they soon going to claim the moon as Native American territory? The moon is already owned by three nations the U.S Russia and China and soon India will become a fourth player.
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
@kylekyle9618 this is mostly it right here, if you claim and hold it, it's yours...
@calasia7896
@calasia7896 7 ай бұрын
I don't know what's sillier, paying a company money to bury ashes on the moon (no one is close to doing this) or objecting to those ashes being buried there. 😂
@CommonSense-uj9ip
@CommonSense-uj9ip 7 ай бұрын
Definitely thinking you have the authority to tell someone not to
@thomthom6268
@thomthom6268 7 ай бұрын
Ashes are rarely buried. They are spread. Something we can easily do today and to our knowledge, just mixes with the other dust on the moon.
@shawndeehauskins5889
@shawndeehauskins5889 7 ай бұрын
Did you even watch this interview? People are paying.
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 6 ай бұрын
Well said. Somehow we are stuck thinking both are incredibly silly and yet both will trudge forward
@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881
@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881 6 ай бұрын
Story turned even sillier - in spite of what people payed, the probe had complete systems failure, won't ever hit the moon.
@markcutteridge5093
@markcutteridge5093 7 ай бұрын
Nobody owns the moon so I'm not sure how the Navaho Nation expects NASA to be able exert control over this issue.
@grahamimal8336
@grahamimal8336 7 ай бұрын
Exactly no body owns the moon. What gives people the right to turn it into a cemetery?
@markcutteridge5093
@markcutteridge5093 7 ай бұрын
The same rights that people that create cemeteries here on earth have, I suppose. I'm not advocating for moon "burials" by any means but if silly people with too much money want to spend it by launching human remains to the moon, that's their prerogative. @@grahamimal8336
@markcutteridge5093
@markcutteridge5093 7 ай бұрын
The same rights that anyone has to establish a cemetery anywhere, I suppose. Regardless, it's absurd to expect NASA to be able dictate what occurs on any celestial body @@grahamimal8336
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
@@grahamimal8336 where does it already say they cannot????????
@anacc3257
@anacc3257 7 ай бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa Unwritten rule? Not how space and its planets are supposed to be treated
@wadeedden4552
@wadeedden4552 7 ай бұрын
If we colonize the moon, should we then allow human remains to be interned there? It is absurd to require that all NASA activities be required to have been reviewed by every earthly religion.
@codeblood2000
@codeblood2000 7 ай бұрын
Is also absurd to think that Humanity gets to leaving s*** everywhere it goes
@aishabintabubakr4944
@aishabintabubakr4944 7 ай бұрын
​@@codeblood2000 I support 💩💩💩💩 on their God
@leahgary1107
@leahgary1107 7 ай бұрын
It's not just a religion. It's a culture.
@kathleenr4047
@kathleenr4047 7 ай бұрын
​@@codeblood2000 S***, as well as human remains, are all biodegradable. Just saying.
@aishabintabubakr4944
@aishabintabubakr4944 7 ай бұрын
@user-kp6ov4wh9d If we didn't colonize, then they would have never learned about the wheel
@Vlesra
@Vlesra 7 ай бұрын
So unbelievably disgusting to trash the Moon😭
@Garrison169
@Garrison169 7 ай бұрын
The moon has tons of trash, garbage and human waste on it. More all the time.
@Vlesra
@Vlesra 6 ай бұрын
@@Anedime Let me guess...you were raised to be an entitled millennial who's parents were more than happy to let you be on a computer/cell/tablet all day just so they didn't have to deal your holier than thou attitude 😆
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 6 ай бұрын
Hollier than thou? Pretty sure it was you that came here. telling others how "disgusting" they were... Try again...
@Vlesra
@Vlesra 6 ай бұрын
@@codymoe4986 The act itself is disgusting. I've never heard of the term hollier than thou. Perhaps you can enlighten me 🫵🏼🤣
@Vlesra
@Vlesra 6 ай бұрын
@@Anedime Well thank you for your autobiography! It explains why you are such a sad and mean individual. You should try to work on that👍🏼
@DiosMiosAmigos
@DiosMiosAmigos 7 ай бұрын
So now the Navajo nation is laying claim to the moon😂 NOOO Colonization😢
@nex-ex5100
@nex-ex5100 7 ай бұрын
Why do the Navajo think they can make decisions for the rest of us?
@TheMagicJIZZ
@TheMagicJIZZ 6 ай бұрын
They have no land ​@@user-zm6qj9cz7b
@derrickbeaubearic4100
@derrickbeaubearic4100 6 ай бұрын
The same reason the Christians do?
@mikerouch416
@mikerouch416 6 ай бұрын
​@@marcosolo6491the moon doesn't belong to rich people for there personal graveyard. It's a waste of money resources and pollutes a place before we can even get there. That's a lot of space garbage for rich people to feel better about their deaths.
@ironfist7789
@ironfist7789 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I think that it is disgusting that we are wasting earth's precious resource to dump dead people on the moon. We waste enough resources here on this planet without making the moon into a trash heap. It would be different if people actually live on the moon and passed away. Maybe we should consider more regulations on what goes into space if this is the type of thing that will be allowed.
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
you better look at your own use footprint... probably something in there too.
@ironfist7789
@ironfist7789 6 ай бұрын
@paladro I'm sure there is, but I'm definitely not using moon rocket energy to deposit bodies
@kathleenr4047
@kathleenr4047 6 ай бұрын
@@ironfist7789 Nobody ELSE is using Moon rocket energy for the express purpose of depositing bodies on the Moon EITHER. There's a plan to go to the moon. Since they're already going, some industrious person said "Hey since you're already going to the Moon anyway, could you leave some ashes up there while you're there? We can pay."
@tonyfanfarone
@tonyfanfarone 6 ай бұрын
@@ironfist7789another status symbol for the most arrogant and selfish. Just what is needed.
@jayhunsel7359
@jayhunsel7359 6 ай бұрын
It's like one Oz of very fine ashes per person that is released into space, and these "space burial" missions do no happen often. It's not like we're sending Cadavers by the rocket load every week and just dumping them on the moon...
@lorianne1409
@lorianne1409 7 ай бұрын
I bet those remains never make it to the moon. They’re probably floating around in space somewhere 😢
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
They're in a drawer under the contracts. 😂
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
@kathleenr4047 👍 thks, l'll fix it.
@duncantorrance1976
@duncantorrance1976 7 ай бұрын
True if the remains where sent on a Russian rocket.
@apiii73
@apiii73 7 ай бұрын
The ex had a buddy who was supposed to empty ashes over the Gulf of Mexico from his plane. When he landed he saw that a lot of the ashes blew back into the window and were all over the carpet in the back. He vacuumed them up and those ashes ended up in the landfill at the dump.
@wm6549
@wm6549 7 ай бұрын
It's all a big scam. Who know what will happen to the remains?
@jeremyeliseo
@jeremyeliseo 7 ай бұрын
Since when does the Navajo tribe own the moon?
@abvevo6406
@abvevo6406 7 ай бұрын
Since they went full liberal retard mode. 😂
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 7 ай бұрын
@jeremyeliseo burials on the moon is the epiphany of decadence, ignorance and stupidity.
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
This is about treating someone how you'd wish to be treated, respectfully, not ownership. Do better.
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 7 ай бұрын
@@warpedjaffas1 it's decadent and ignorant.
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
@kylekyle9618 you thinking is an interesting concept but its only conceptual. You have no idea of the significance of it. They've got special status, you don't. You'll gamble in Casinos. They own Casinos. 🤣
@Tygerlily-NinaJames
@Tygerlily-NinaJames 7 ай бұрын
What in the actual F!?!Please don’t use the moon as a graveyard!
@SciMajor1
@SciMajor1 7 ай бұрын
This is a great example of where the world would be so much better if people discarded superstition and mysticism in favour of reality. The idea that any organization, private or public, would require some sort of religious approval for any kind of project is absurd. One would have thought that by the 21st century humanity would have discarded religious oppression. Sadly, particularly in the U.S.A., that is not the case.
@23merlino
@23merlino 7 ай бұрын
...so i suppose there is no "superstition and mysticism" involved in wanting to have your ashes scattered on the moon, or what..? although, i have to say i totally agree with your last sentence...
@clayoreilly4553
@clayoreilly4553 7 ай бұрын
Really, Sci Guy? Have you seen the news from Gaza lately?
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
@@clayoreilly4553yeah, two religious groups that have hated each other for hundreds of years because of their differing religions.... _religion is evil_
@SciMajor1
@SciMajor1 7 ай бұрын
@@23merlino I can guarantee that the family members of Gene, who was an atheist, are not putting his ashes up their with any supernatural or mystical expectations. There's nothing supernatural or mystical about what is being done here.
@tonyfanfarone
@tonyfanfarone 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the newest religion is greed, power and arrogance. Once viewed with suspicion now admirable. What kind of nut thinks wasting resources to get their sorry dead remains to the moon is noble or advisable. It’s just another status symbol for the not too brights to be impressed with. Similar to the pollution caused by space tourism. Perhaps a ride down to the titanic is something for them to try.
@thomasdequincey5811
@thomasdequincey5811 7 ай бұрын
Give me a break! If it's offensive to them, then it's offensive. So what? The Navajo nation do not have any rights over the moon.
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, as a group of people that don't really even have technology, i think they like the thought of being able to influence the moon. Even though they never became astronomically gifted like many other non lazy natives. Navajos were just nomad bully tribes. Other tribes actually studied the stars
@FishFace1776-mi7ce
@FishFace1776-mi7ce 7 ай бұрын
This is VERY STUPID IDEA. PERIOD‼️‼️ WHY?? Bury them on PLUTO!! 😡😡😡
@jack23325
@jack23325 7 ай бұрын
Not sure why the navajo nation thinks it's special and deserves to be consulted over any of the countless other groups, religions, and peoples that consider the moon sacred/holy/significant. The moon is just a big ball covered in dust, adding a tiny amount of dust to all that dust isn't going to mess up the dust. The moon will eventually be used as a waystation for further space exploration anyway, so imagine how much these groups will freak out when people start living there.
@markoreilly3414
@markoreilly3414 7 ай бұрын
FFS ! What fuckin NEXT ???
@familyportsmouth
@familyportsmouth 7 ай бұрын
American christians should be standing side by side with the Navajo! Any follower of mythology can make laws over everyone else, right? It is their deeply held belief that they should have say over the Moon. You cannot fight against them while claiming that your deeply held religious beliefs must be the law of the land.
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 7 ай бұрын
The epiphany of decadence and ignorance
@fuct2003
@fuct2003 6 ай бұрын
Did you mean epitome?
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 6 ай бұрын
@@fuct2003 not at all, just emphasising the stupidity and ignorance of such decadence. Because one can, doesn't make it right.
@abvevo6406
@abvevo6406 7 ай бұрын
I feel like in today's society someone is going to bitch about anything. Let the ashes become regolith, what's the big deal....
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
We wouldn't want to be disrespectful and trample your feelings, would we dingaling? 🙄
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 7 ай бұрын
@abveo6406 because it's decadence extreme
@abvevo6406
@abvevo6406 7 ай бұрын
@@warpedjaffas1 Stfu, no one cares about what you say. 🤣
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
@@warpedjaffas1well if it's because of religion, then yeah no respect required
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa yeah well, it's not.
@thomthom6268
@thomthom6268 7 ай бұрын
The Navajo do not own the moon. Also, in western culture. Apollo [m] is the sun and Diana/Minerva [f] is the moon. Same dichotomy. It's one thing to ask to preserve known sacred lands on earth. To ask for the same rights in space is arrogance. And I am pretty sure many nations won't recognize the claim.
@poop464
@poop464 6 ай бұрын
Preserving "sacred lands" on the Earth is just as asinine.
@douglasreagan4979
@douglasreagan4979 7 ай бұрын
BREAKING NEWS: Old man is yelling at the clouds.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
Who let biden out of the basement?
@davidvaughn8680
@davidvaughn8680 7 ай бұрын
You Republicons 😂😂😂​@@larrybarela8676
@patsfan0726
@patsfan0726 7 ай бұрын
You came out First with trump 🤡 🤡 🤡 ​@@larrybarela8676
@cathynewyork7918
@cathynewyork7918 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676 This is a terrible joke. Mr. Biden is way more intelligent and successful than YOU are - you are not the leader of the free world.
@daviddillard3513
@daviddillard3513 7 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous 🙄
@TimberlakeTigerGirl
@TimberlakeTigerGirl 6 ай бұрын
No offense to them, but the moon belongs to everyone. I didn't see the Navajo complain when that Chinese mission went awol and crashed on the moon. Or when the Indians managed to land near the South Pole. Other countries aren't going to care if the Navajo get upset over moon launches. And while the US definitely should be doing more to respect Native American wishes and demands. This one is an exception because again: the moon belongs to everyone on Earth, not just them.
@punchthem4582
@punchthem4582 7 ай бұрын
Maybe the Navajo nation should be more concerned about the absolute slum their reservation is in with drugs and gangs at every corner.
@aapettit
@aapettit 7 ай бұрын
As someone who had grown up around native Americans almost my whole life. Let me just say there is a reason none of the other tribes like or get along with the Navajo nation. They where literally the bullies of the Americas till Europeans showed up. They fought all the time with all the other tibes, taking their stuff because they felt entitled to it. I guess somethings never change.
@Honequestionz
@Honequestionz 6 ай бұрын
😂
@DaleHartley
@DaleHartley 6 ай бұрын
LOL, sorry interesting observation.... Much as the Europeans ( I am one of them, well Euro descendent) and we often are clueless about the inter tribal/nation conflicts and cultures. Thank you, sincerely.
@cocacola4blood365
@cocacola4blood365 6 ай бұрын
With authoritarians coming out of the woodwork, it's unsurprising that bullies think their day has come. In fact, it would be odd if they _didn't_ think that.
@mikerouch416
@mikerouch416 6 ай бұрын
​@@DaleHartleydon't listen to someone citing nothing. It sounds made up cus it is.
@DaleHartley
@DaleHartley 6 ай бұрын
@@mikerouch416 so everyone is a serial liar? Is that what you are calling aapattit?
@kathleenaustin327
@kathleenaustin327 7 ай бұрын
What?!! I can't believe we are having this discussion. The Navaho nation has nothing better to do?!! Ridiculous!
@TheJttv
@TheJttv 7 ай бұрын
Space should not become a dumping ground for the rich.
@kreiner1
@kreiner1 7 ай бұрын
No, really, no. Can rich people just get over themselves. 🙄
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens 7 ай бұрын
Your comment is the Best of the day. They might as well stop the polling now. 💋👍
@gazaman7561
@gazaman7561 7 ай бұрын
What sense does this make?
@douglasreagan4979
@douglasreagan4979 7 ай бұрын
ZERO, because: "This Is CNN"...
@Lawlzinator
@Lawlzinator 7 ай бұрын
"Navajo Nation calls non-Navajo looking at the Moon offensive. More at 7"
@jayboydakid8299
@jayboydakid8299 6 ай бұрын
My thoughts on this is no the us government shouldn’t turn the moon into a human graveyard. The American flag isn’t enough?What are they trying to accomplish? I thought we were using our technology to better understand space exploration and space itself. NASA should be doing better than this.
@user-fz6ru2up6c
@user-fz6ru2up6c 6 ай бұрын
This is not about beliefs or if the moon belongs to anyone. This is about one sovereign political entity (US Gov and NASA) making an agreement (to consult) with with another sovereign political entity (Navajo Nation). An agreement was made to consult with the Tribe before action was taken and the Biden administration also re-committed to consulting with Tribal Nations when developing federal policies that impact them in 2021. Its not about culture or belief. It's about keeping the US government, agencies, departments, and companies regulated by the US governments to do what they said and agreed to do. This is about keeping your Government to Government agreements.
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 6 ай бұрын
The navajo nation is not too be taken seriously. I'm surprised they got a headline honestly
@jeffhampton2767
@jeffhampton2767 7 ай бұрын
Who on Earth would want to be buried on the moon 🤔
@deannelson9565
@deannelson9565 6 ай бұрын
Lots of people
@otakunthevegan4206
@otakunthevegan4206 6 ай бұрын
Me.
@TiboFPS
@TiboFPS 7 ай бұрын
His premise actually comes down to “we have one planet, we should be happy with it”
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
_His premise is wrong._
@TiboFPS
@TiboFPS 7 ай бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa exactly
@jacovawernett3077
@jacovawernett3077 7 ай бұрын
His premise is not wrong. People have abandoned Deus. Vivitas. Rem.​@@TiboFPS
@suomynona4607
@suomynona4607 7 ай бұрын
The opposing position is, "we have a right to f'ck up every planet we go to."
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
its myopic, if anything.
@aramgregorylocke5026
@aramgregorylocke5026 7 ай бұрын
The Navajo Nation doesn’t own the moon. This is absurd.
@kamifaye
@kamifaye 6 ай бұрын
so rich people do own it? to be able to dump their litter and junk on it?
@aramgregorylocke5026
@aramgregorylocke5026 6 ай бұрын
@@kamifaye Human remains are not junk. These people have as much rights to doing that as anyone else. The Navajo nation does not own the moon. It’s a piece of rock in space with nothing on it. These claims are just laughable and pathetic.
@kamifaye
@kamifaye 6 ай бұрын
@@aramgregorylocke5026 but it’s not a “right” is it, because its predetermined by whether or not you can afford it. and yes, it is junk- because they’re not just dumping the ashes but also the containers that they’re in
@Coraleena
@Coraleena 7 ай бұрын
Why are we always destroying other environments? The moon belongs to no one and definitely not human beings.
@someperson4819
@someperson4819 6 ай бұрын
The Moon doesn't have an environment. It's a deserted wasteland with no oxygen or life. It's always being bombarded by cosmic radiation with no protection. It's just a ball of dust.
@grahamimal8336
@grahamimal8336 7 ай бұрын
No body owns the moon. What gives people the right to turn it into a cemetery?
@adamredwine774
@adamredwine774 7 ай бұрын
What gives people the right to deny others the ability to do so?
@douglasreagan4979
@douglasreagan4979 7 ай бұрын
I saw a laid off CNN employee carrying a sign that said: "Will report Fake News for FOOD!"
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
Now that's News!
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 6 ай бұрын
Foxbot alert...Foxbot alert...Foxbot alert...
@vcaron4562
@vcaron4562 7 ай бұрын
Earthlings should not contaminant the moon or any planet. Fix our planet
@DaleHartley
@DaleHartley 6 ай бұрын
Funny, since some would consider burying our dead here as worsening the state of this planet.
@12HappyDonuts
@12HappyDonuts 7 ай бұрын
I too wish to protest. Nobody consulted with me and I too depend on the moon. I’m a werewolf.
@chrismusgrove6248
@chrismusgrove6248 7 ай бұрын
Who in their RIGHT mind would even think of taking human remains to any planet other than earth where the dead belongs. These people think of all sorts of crazy twisted ideas to make a dollar. 🙂
@chrismusgrove6248
@chrismusgrove6248 6 ай бұрын
@kylekyle9618 I guess you're right but what's the purpose of sending remains into outer space. Haven't MAN polluted enough already.
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 6 ай бұрын
The point in going into space is that everything we neef to keep civilization going, is out there for the taking... And if you're not taking it from Earth, that means less polution, disturbing the planet...
@MySpace662
@MySpace662 7 ай бұрын
Which deity of the Navajo nation lives on the moon.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
Skinwalker's
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
None. Deities do not exist.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 7 ай бұрын
I’m all for respecting cultural sensitivities, but the Navajo request is unreasonable. What about when there are bases on the moon and someone dies there?
@dairyarcher2
@dairyarcher2 7 ай бұрын
For the first minute, I thought the Navajo president was wearing a cool hat.
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 7 ай бұрын
lmao
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 7 ай бұрын
its a sign?
@dairyarcher2
@dairyarcher2 7 ай бұрын
@@davemitchell6281 is something up on the wall behind him.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand how human's religious believes are wrong in so many ways.
@JacobManymules
@JacobManymules 7 ай бұрын
No one owns the moon, it's that we should look at the beauty of any cultures gods, or holy people (spirits) creations. In the Navajo culture it has its story's, we are in the yellow world with the sun and corn. By any means we all should respect and own up to it. not disrespecting it by sending human remains to a place of beauty
@johnnynephrite6147
@johnnynephrite6147 7 ай бұрын
I do.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
@@JacobManymules God created the moon, and it's not to be worshiped!
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676physics created the moon, silly
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
Well seeing as religion is made up fairy tales, it's pretty easy to see how they're all factually incorrect.
@Kiki-en9vm
@Kiki-en9vm 7 ай бұрын
The fact remain that while i respect your faith, Navejo nation doesn't own the moon,other people cultures also had something to do with the moon.
@vegetablegremlin69
@vegetablegremlin69 7 ай бұрын
Don't send garbage to the moon. It's bad enough leaving the necessary equipment for exploration behind. Your ashes aren't that special 🤦
@tomez8143
@tomez8143 7 ай бұрын
Offensive to who? Moonman?
@jaygee6738
@jaygee6738 7 ай бұрын
Offensive? How?
@TheSpanishInquisition87
@TheSpanishInquisition87 6 ай бұрын
What gives the Navajo the right to regulate the burial practices of anyone outside of their own culture? Certainly they are not claiming ownership of the moon, are they?
@leoreed6290
@leoreed6290 7 ай бұрын
Look, I have the worlds smallest amount of native in me, but everywhere you go seems to be a sacred burial ground, just not the moon. How about when the Navaho nation gets a space program, they can tell other programs what to do.
@odrikronnin-gamer6579
@odrikronnin-gamer6579 7 ай бұрын
give it to humanity to give the moon something that does not need.
@DaleHartley
@DaleHartley 6 ай бұрын
LOL, Hey Humanity if the gift that keeps on giving... In many ways we are like a virus....BUT that does not mean we need to stop being viruses, just learn how to exist without host body ( the universe) and help it as well as harm it. ( like the sucker fish on Sharks)
@deannelson9565
@deannelson9565 6 ай бұрын
We'd like to give it you something else Humanity doesn't need
@Chemical_Mask7720
@Chemical_Mask7720 7 ай бұрын
As part of the Navajo tribe I agree with our President.
@adamredwine774
@adamredwine774 7 ай бұрын
But you don’t get to decide how the rest of us live and die.
@douglasreagan4979
@douglasreagan4979 7 ай бұрын
As part of the Awopaho Nation I agree with Chief Big Turd.
@susanfanning9480
@susanfanning9480 7 ай бұрын
Alaska Native here . I agree. Don't do it.
@cc8751
@cc8751 7 ай бұрын
Worry more about the crime that has taken over your reservation
@KingC89
@KingC89 7 ай бұрын
*"As part of the Navajo Tribe"* -👦🏼
@cherryVision
@cherryVision 6 ай бұрын
Ay yes, the longstanding Navajo tradition of not bringing human remains to the moon
@browntigerus
@browntigerus 7 ай бұрын
If we are to colonize our Moon, there will be human remains. It is not just USA, but other countries. This debate reminds me similar claims when first cosmonaut was about to be sent to space in 1961.
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens 7 ай бұрын
I think I'll encase my bowel movement in lucite and have it sent to the moon. This would be in respect to the food I ate to create it. It will be an art exhibit that people can pay big dollars to go and see in person. It will, of course, be signed by MOI!!! 💋
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens
@MyKidsLoveDragQueens 7 ай бұрын
​@@burntupretardpornI doubt he would bother encasing his. 💋
@lloydchristmas5698
@lloydchristmas5698 7 ай бұрын
Give me a break. It’s not like they’ve ever been there. 😂
@GenghisVern
@GenghisVern 7 ай бұрын
They can't be serious. It makes no sense at all.
@allfredi.
@allfredi. 6 ай бұрын
You don’t own the moon, Navajo nation. Why should you be consulted? It’s a different argument to allow the moon in pristine state but nothing to do with some Navajo
@pipermccool
@pipermccool 7 ай бұрын
From the full moon fell Nokomis Fell the beautiful Nokomis - Longfellow
@adlibruj
@adlibruj 7 ай бұрын
Someday, somehow we will stop worshiping the mortal human body, after its mission has been fulfilled here on Earth! Then we will find out the magnificent being we really are!
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
Correct, in hell.
@deannelson9565
@deannelson9565 6 ай бұрын
Okay so it's clear you should be institutionalized
@5373NSMAG
@5373NSMAG 2 ай бұрын
I’m from the Navajo Nation, we got bigger problems than worrying about the damn moon.
@johndowner2196
@johndowner2196 7 ай бұрын
Turning the moon into a graveyard. Give me a break!
@BePatient888
@BePatient888 7 ай бұрын
Look, I am a live and let live person, so I got to say "sorry bud" to the Navajo request on what OTHER folks want to do with their own remains after death. Expecting other people to treat what YOU think is sacred as hallowed is asking too much of them, especially if you're not willing to accommodate their beliefs as well. Nobody owns the moon. No single culture can claim it as their own.
@Mathilde1469
@Mathilde1469 7 ай бұрын
If no one owns the moon, doesn’t everyone have the right to ask not to litter on it?
@taddytass4318
@taddytass4318 7 ай бұрын
Sure they do. But I gotta ask, is that what you get from lookin' at human history? 'Cus that sure ain't my take away when I look at humans and what we actually do through out history @@Mathilde1469
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
@@Mathilde1469sure anyone can _ask_ The answer will be "your religion is asinine"
@TheMagicJIZZ
@TheMagicJIZZ 6 ай бұрын
​@@Mathilde1469no
@WaxPaper
@WaxPaper 6 ай бұрын
The argument is, would I have a right to take a dump on some holy Christian site, assuming it was legal? Or maybe not so much a right, but would anyone expect me to pause, if they wanted to talk to me about why I should reconsider?
@CorvusTX
@CorvusTX 7 ай бұрын
If you can believe in magic sky wizards, you can believe in any crazy thing.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
How about Salvation?
@kathleenr4047
@kathleenr4047 7 ай бұрын
​@@larrybarela8676 I don't require salvation.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
@@kathleenr4047 Your destination requires it.
@familyportsmouth
@familyportsmouth 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676, "How about Salvation?" Great example of a crazy thing people still believes in, in the 21 Century.
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
@@familyportsmouthThis is not my requirements, it's Gods.
@andreapalma5657
@andreapalma5657 7 ай бұрын
Now they bring the ashes there; in the future, the garbage.
@daniellow426
@daniellow426 6 ай бұрын
Most of you have totally missed the point, no fault there it was covered up by what amounts to a Side discussion of the why they might have objections. The Point IS; The US Government, and NASA in particular, Made An Agreement with the Navajo Nation about this very subject. That Agreement Was NOT upheld. This agreement was that they would be consulted before NASA decided AGAIN to be involved in this 'human-remains on the moon' thing. It is a simple agreement and apparently one that is to damned difficult for the Richest, Strongest, Most Influential Nation the world has ever seen. The USA's Agreements have to mean something, and they often do not, at least is seems they do not. Anyways, THAT is the issue.
@leonardothefabulous3490
@leonardothefabulous3490 6 ай бұрын
Yea, it was an agreement; like the kind you make with your three-year-old child; "Yes honey, Santa Claus is real and he knows several unicorns." But eventually the children grow up and they understand Reality.
@laskatz3626
@laskatz3626 6 ай бұрын
I so admire the Navajo Nation. We should listen to their Elders and Medicine men.
@Joe-jp1pb
@Joe-jp1pb 6 ай бұрын
Definitely not gonna be listening to people that are all hopped up on firewater or witch doctors. .... By the way, there are less than 200,000 members of the Navajo nation. In other words, they don't matter in the world.
@dylldobaggins4594
@dylldobaggins4594 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@NewDealDem2187
@NewDealDem2187 6 ай бұрын
Did it work out for them?
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 6 ай бұрын
They are the most corrupt native organization in the world. Every year another NN president stealing from the organization and being replaced by another guy that steals from the organization ahahah. You must not actually know a single Navajo to think they are beautiful
@leonardothefabulous3490
@leonardothefabulous3490 6 ай бұрын
That's funny. You should do stand up.
@makeracistsafraidagain
@makeracistsafraidagain 7 ай бұрын
In a diverse society we need to be flexible.
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
and respectful. Treat others how you'd wish to be treated. 🙏
@universanking5563
@universanking5563 7 ай бұрын
​@@warpedjaffas1asean is the most strongest Region in the whole world, I know it because I'm from indonesia, which is also part of the Asean Community; and the Southeast Asian nations are the most Powerful Countries in the whole world, because my country Indonesia and our neighboring countries Thailand Vietnam was the one that Responsible for funding the I SIS group and not Qatar, because they helped our countries by trading our economies with there own made missiles, that was the reason why our economies was unstoppable and could be more powerful than EU on the future, this information was from the confidential group webpage of our three countries with our own government Analysics, it says there also that 0.35% of the gdp of our three countries was contributed to the I SIS Group, which USA and EU and other Westerner countries are doesn't know it, and we also funded the weapons of mister bin laden to make the 9/11 attack sucessful, because he is our Muslim brother; and the I SIS Group was helped our countries to be developed by trading us with there Missiles. and being from Southeast asia we are all Confident to disclose it here because only less people's are going to see this disclosures Selamat Pagi.
@iloveTrump45
@iloveTrump45 7 ай бұрын
Yea until you get robbed
@warpedjaffas1
@warpedjaffas1 7 ай бұрын
​@kylekyle9618 do you expect a level cultural respect for your culture? Is so, you should afford other cultures the same level of respect, correct? Why would anyone show you any respect if you show them none? Do better.
@susanfanning9480
@susanfanning9480 7 ай бұрын
As if indigenous haven't put up enough disrespect..
@facetiousmarbles3539
@facetiousmarbles3539 6 ай бұрын
Many cultures view the moon as a sacred celestial body. Not just to the Navajo, I know many cultures all over the world would be appalled that a company has decided to profit off burying the dead on the moon.
@dylldobaggins4594
@dylldobaggins4594 6 ай бұрын
And as with the Navajo they can jog on. I happen to worship the Sun and people benefitting from it offends me. From now on I want payment for all solar energy and everyone has to walk in the shade. Okay?
@TimberlakeTigerGirl
@TimberlakeTigerGirl 6 ай бұрын
Then why aren't others speaking up? I didn't hear anyone complain when that Chinese vessel crashed on the moon.
@tyguy5291
@tyguy5291 7 ай бұрын
God damn. I’m all for protecting groups of people to keep things fair, but when is this idea that natives owning everything going to go away? Wish people would stay grounded in reality
@nailbunny2326
@nailbunny2326 7 ай бұрын
How much can they sue for not consulting them for the moon burial?
@asdfasdf5962
@asdfasdf5962 7 ай бұрын
If it’s anything like Canada, then a few billion every other year
@benitosalazar3749
@benitosalazar3749 7 ай бұрын
Now that is the real question and likely the root cause of this - money. They want some.
@webmediafactors4
@webmediafactors4 7 ай бұрын
No need to explain, I understand without being told. I agree.
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
Then you lack any semblance of intelligence.
@whalercumming9911
@whalercumming9911 7 ай бұрын
As a rational Neo Malthusian Humanist this is an affront to the future of humanity and a slight to numerous cultures around the world. What an ignorant waste and offensive display
@DarthJay91
@DarthJay91 7 ай бұрын
I don't want anyone's religious beliefs to dictate official government policy. I think the President is doing a very bad job convincing anyone this shouldn't be done.
@cheersmodreams691
@cheersmodreams691 6 ай бұрын
This takes the expression 'dead planet' to a whole new level. I'm not Navajo but I agree with their position. I love gazing at the moon and would prefer it not be a cemetery.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl
@TimberlakeTigerGirl 6 ай бұрын
It kind of already is. With the surface littered with craters from asteroid impacts it took over the course of billions of years.
@clayoreilly4553
@clayoreilly4553 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking out, Mr. Nygren. As a resident of the Navajo Nation, married to a Navajo Tribal Member for 50+ years, I am in full support of your efforts. Thank you, from The Rez.
@Joe-jp1pb
@Joe-jp1pb 7 ай бұрын
NOBODY CARES.... The moon isn't yours....I could care less if it is special to you but Guess what? It's special to every human being on the face of the Earth.....not just some stupid tribe that doesn't even matter in the world.
@peachydls341
@peachydls341 7 ай бұрын
The Moon doesn't belong to the Navajo nation. It belongs to everyone bud.
@rc6888
@rc6888 7 ай бұрын
I wished he would’ve explained it better though
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
You don't have a reservation on the moon sorry bro
@burger322
@burger322 7 ай бұрын
@@rc6888 same
@thomasnewman8320
@thomasnewman8320 6 ай бұрын
I dont know. I think human remains should remain on earth unless those human remains came from a human who was born and lived their entire lives on spaceship, asteroid moon, or on another planet. Orherwise, we should be respectful of the wishes of indigenous peoples.
@mtnbikr107
@mtnbikr107 6 ай бұрын
WTH, even sending ashes to the moon, with its vast sea of ashy mountains and open areas, is offending someone? America, we have officially gone off the deep end.
@baddogastro
@baddogastro 7 ай бұрын
Does this open up mining rights, Ownership of planetary land other than the earth? I think there is a lot to discuss before anything like this moves forward. How are the cremation remains delivered and implanted on the lunar surface? Would it be just a scattering of cremation containers littered across the lunar surface? So many questions...
@larrybarela8676
@larrybarela8676 7 ай бұрын
The big question is, how do you get pass the firmament?
@baddogastro
@baddogastro 7 ай бұрын
@@larrybarela8676 Ummm, I guess Budda will provide, you yahoo....
@mjc11a
@mjc11a 7 ай бұрын
​@@baddogastro Ummm I guess you better first learn how to correctly spell "Budda" ya yahoo🙄
@mtnbikr107
@mtnbikr107 6 ай бұрын
You are overthinking this. The moon is one humongous ashy mass, so sending a few vials of cremains to the surface will not cause an environmental meltdown. That's like saying pouring a cup of cold water into a volcanic caldera may cause it to cool down.
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 6 ай бұрын
There's a lot to discuss, but none of it concerns Navajos. They are as corrupt as they come in terms in bureaucracy and embezzlement. In fact I would argue they are only making a stink because they want to a piece of the pie. They're actually one of the most corrupt native groups on the planet
@Rmk4luv61
@Rmk4luv61 7 ай бұрын
When you think you have heard it all .
@ratti80
@ratti80 7 ай бұрын
The moon belongs to all of humanity! The Navajos don't have anything to say.
@carloss1313
@carloss1313 7 ай бұрын
It Does sounds like [Property Takeover] Inhabitants Are forcefully removed. But no one Acknowledges Territory.
@drizzant23
@drizzant23 6 ай бұрын
He should worry about how corrupted his tribe is. He does nothing to change the horrible issues. There’s already a bunch of debris from these space programs to begin with. 🙄🙄
@drizzant23
@drizzant23 21 күн бұрын
@JonDove-i1l lmao something he can’t prove! He needs to worry about the physical problems then the metaphysical jargon!
@jeanious2009
@jeanious2009 7 ай бұрын
😂😂 sorry but you don’t own the moon buddy
@davidjones6389
@davidjones6389 7 ай бұрын
This is a non-issue, and with respect, don't force your faith on us. You are better than that.
@sh856531
@sh856531 7 ай бұрын
So he wants a veto on how other cultures and people behave because his medicine man thinks the moon is magic?
@jensraab2902
@jensraab2902 7 ай бұрын
Yep.
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
Precisely why no one should respect the religious views of any group. It's all lies and crap
@treasuretrails
@treasuretrails 6 ай бұрын
My high ass thought that guy was wearing a funny hat for a second there lol
@bruceevangelismandrevelati841
@bruceevangelismandrevelati841 7 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed seeing your content. Keep supplying us. Thanks for sharing. ❤✌😘🥀
@antoniohorta5656
@antoniohorta5656 6 ай бұрын
Are you thanking CNN? Weird
@IshaanKlli
@IshaanKlli 7 ай бұрын
Is it like throwing garbage on the moon to create claims, just like how we expanded the land when we came to North America?😂😂😂😂😂😂
@weirdbookreviews
@weirdbookreviews 7 ай бұрын
does the Navajo own the moon now? why should they care what someone else does with their own remains? there is a separation of church and state. lets keep it that way.
@MILITIA_AGAINST_TRUMP
@MILITIA_AGAINST_TRUMP 7 ай бұрын
is this real??
@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 7 ай бұрын
Nope. It’s all just an expensive joke at your expense.
@Randy-jz9ox
@Randy-jz9ox 7 ай бұрын
It's some ridiculousness
@MILITIA_AGAINST_TRUMP
@MILITIA_AGAINST_TRUMP 7 ай бұрын
@@jayluck8047 Thats what i thought
@moniqueskeet4430
@moniqueskeet4430 7 ай бұрын
Sending human remains to the moon would be gross. Why do this? The poor female moon.😔
@CantHandleThisCanYa
@CantHandleThisCanYa 7 ай бұрын
The moon is rock. It is not a female.
@moniqueskeet4430
@moniqueskeet4430 7 ай бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa To the Navajo, the moon is female and the sun is male. That is Navajo culture.
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