Naval Coil Guns - Lore and Theory - Feat. Sins Of The Prophets

[@Yamaazaka]

I love the MAC cannons of humanity. It just fits the humans so well. Plasma weapons for a purple themed faction. And a big bullet for our gun metal coloured humans.

[@trashyhobo4957]

Now if only the UNSC could get something along the lines of a warhammer 40k bolter

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

Trashy Hobo There is CE Magnum which is a straight-up Bolt Pistol.

[@rhorynotmylastname7781]

@@trashyhobo4957 Eh UNSC weapons are probably better designed than the bolter. Using rocket fuel to propel an object isn't as optimal as modern smokeless powder, the UNSC using some sort of futuristic gunpowder and electromagnetics to accelerate projectiles is probably superior.

[@AuburnTigers111]

@@rhorynotmylastname7781 Bolter shells are two stage, smokeless propellant to propel the round out of the barrel, and then a rocket ignites to propel the round up to significantly higher velocities.

[@rhorynotmylastname7781]

@@AuburnTigers111 I mean disregarding that it would be a pain in the ass to minimize rocket propellant into that small of a package unless it's something like kerosene or ethanol. Gunpowder can just release its energy faster than rocket fuel can.

[@autumngottlieb3071]

I think if UNSC point defense guns could shoot down plasma torpedoes, a lot of scenes in a lot of books would have played out very differently.

[@notsogood4321]

I remember in one au fanfic the author suggested using the point defence loaded with bullets that emit an em wave that could disrupt the plasma torpedo shell since the plasma torpedo is literally plasma incased in a magnetic field so they can steer the thing, thus when the bullet hits the torpedo the magnetic field becomes unstable and then the plasma dissipates harmlessly

[@tformerdude6788]

@@notsogood4321 probably too expensive. Couldn't make enough.

[@MrBassbump]

@@tformerdude6788 you’d think imminent death humans wouldn’t care about $

[@janusprime5693]

@@MrBassbump You don't know humans very well

[@MrBassbump]

@@janusprime5693 I’d say you are correct. I don’t associate with 99% of people I encounter. We are a greedy, spiteful species

[@piercepayumo4212]

"Cortana you have the MAC gun." (Looks at Master Chief) "Master Chief, defend this station."

[@AuburnTigers111]

"I need a weapon."

[@legionofthedamned157]

@@AuburnTigers111 *" Right this way "*

[@michaelfink2593]

I was tge 117th like

[@legionofthedamned157]

@@michaelfink2593 good job

[@TheTfrules]

Haven't clicked on a video so quickly since the E3 event, granted that wasn't so long ago but you get the idea

[@chrislaclair2984]

These technology deep dive videos are my absolute favorite. You do an excellent job of "filling in the gaps" with hard science.

[@T.h.w.T]

I think you should have used big old navy guns rather than the nato round, mainly because a navy cannon is somewhat of a better comparison to a spaceship cannon rather than a common rifle round. Plus, I think that the size of bullets doesn't correlate correctly, but this is what I remember from tank and ship rounds, I may be wrong

[@zonnodon163]

This

[@AurumFaber]

Is

[@BlankName88]

What I like about sotp is, they keep the lore accurate of: you need a 3:1 ratio to beat the covenant.

[@chrishill3536]

if i remember right they outlaw the use of frigate class coil gun from firing on a planet unless high commander allow it.

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

That’s probably why Spartan Jorge was questioning the Use of MAC rounds in orbit

[@ajaxtheunderkin2545]

been a while since I've dived into the Halo lore I've been preoccupied with Warhammer 40K but I always find my way back to my first love Halo

[@KillerOrca]

Perfect, I need this for my crossovers. Always did wonder what these could do to durasteel from Stat Wars…this is a good place to start

[@Voidseer000]

Please tell the potential name and location of this crossover work I would love to take a look at it.

[@KillerOrca]

@@Voidseer000 It’ll probably be on AO3 when I get around to getting an account there

[@robertharris6092]

If youre going from a more hard sci-fi universe theres not... really anything that can stop a super mac. Short of like a planet (though iv no idea how much damage thatd do to a plant) also in star wars only particle shields can stop physical projectiles. Which most ships dont have. So mass drivers ignore the shields.

[@papapalps2415]

@@robertharris6092 Late comment, but meh. I would be positively fucking fascinated to see you try to back up the idea that SW ships magically lack the capability to deflect physical fucking projectiles. Putting aside how patently absurd the idea is, its also entirely unsupported in the lore.

[@robertharris6092]

@@papapalps2415 you can literaly go to the legends wookipedia page on shields and see it. "There were two distinct types of deflector shield: ray shields, also known as energy shields, and particle shields. The former protected against energy-based attacks, such as blaster or laser cannon fire, while the latter was developed in response to physical attacks, ranging from projectile missiles and incoming vehicles to asteroids and meteors. Commonly, larger ships and structures were protected by both types of shield, though starfighters often only projected ray shields."

[@UNSCrearadmiral]

"feat sins of the prophets" Ohmygoderhmagawfomgomgomg! Also do not advise attempting to close to secondary range in the mod.

[@imperiousrex128]

"Close to secondary range in the mod" Tried that, just got holes blown into me.

[@AhHereWeGo]

I have to say this. ANY projectile is measured WITH the jacket. The jacket is not added after, it is an important part of the projectile, and in the case of solid copper, brass or lead projectiles, there is no jacket. 7.62x51 nato has a bullet diameter of 7.62mm or .308 inches WITH the jacket, and the casing is 51mm in length.

[@spartans2383]

My takeaway is how freaking powerful covenant shields are

[@Earliersphere]

True, though when older books were written out side the MAC. Ship point defense was either not talked about or conventional guns, not coil guns. The fact covenant shield could take cruise missiles by the hundreds, plus nukes and MAC tell you how OP they were.

[@zonnodon163]

Yup

[@SungJaeUng3]

Ive wanted this video for ages!

[@Matchstick11112]

I would love if you made some game play of sins of the prophets and maybe did some lore whilst playing, also would love to see what tactics you would go with for the UNSC

[@akumadaYT]

Ayyyy, let's rock! You're awesome i00!

[@LMG1792]

This is great two of my favorite things.

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

I remember reading something on the MK 33 Spitfire coil gun, it mentioned it fired a 13 inch projectile, I think it might have been halo warfleets.

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

And somewhere mentioned the breakwater also had a destructive power of a corvette MAC gun but I’m not sure about that one.

[@TheArchaeon7777]

I'd love to see you do a video about the lore, power, and overall realisticness and feasibility of the NOVA bomb at some point. That might just be me, though. I do love a planet-buster.

[@AKlover]

I have doubts that even an FTL civilization would be that wasteful with Tungsten. I suspect the slugs would in reality have A much higher proportion of iron or steel or perhaps even copper if they were going for a fluid projectile effect.

[@bentuovila5296]

Once you start mining in space metals are cheap.

[@AKlover]

@@bentuovila5296 Pretty sure Tungsten is still decidedly more rare than iron, carbon, copper. That is before you "Work It" to how you need it for A given use case.

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

I mean Reach was very rich in titanium ore so a tungsten rich astroid or dwarf planet doesn’t seem too far off of the realm of possibility

[@sam8742]

@@bentuovila5296 Just one astroid mined could completely crash rare metals economy

[@amistrophy]

You're underestimating the absolute lack of any sort of resource scarcity in space the greatest contribution to rarity and price would be transportation, and 26th century humanity is hopping across light years of space willy nilly.

[@nanoman8]

What i hate about it is that the UNSC don't use more of these and instead use archer missles

[@tyvernoverlord5363]

Recharge times my friend, that and the immense anti-ship missiles complement… That and the UNSC used them like a boxer goes for a one-two punch

[@nanoman8]

@@tyvernoverlord5363 yeah but i mean not even capital ships have them offen like for exlample the valiant class was said to be one of the most powerful ship in the navy and there isn't a single naval coil gun besides mac

[@DestradotehRei]

KZbin deciding to show me this 6 days later even though I clicked the bell icon and made it so I saw all video uploads.

[@thebloxxer22]

The reason why they use coilguns instead of standard gunpowder is the environment - space. Gunpowder requires an oxidizer, which is absent in space.

[@GRGararge]

Gunpowder is a self oxidizing fuel, in a sealed brass case there is no oxygen, this is exactly why bullets can be fired underwater, albeit usually at the detriment of the firearms structural integrity

[@nobleman9393]

*Facepalm*

[@JHS270694]

The ability and progress of humanity to yeet an object as fast as they can, at increasing velocity, is a sight to behold.

[@robertharris6092]

One thing to think about when comparing coil guns to propelant powered guns id you can save weight/space on the propelant of the cartridges.

[@lightningphoenix7155]

So, what you are saying is that the ammo should have actually been bigger then they are in game.

[@synthwavespartan2808]

You need to help write lore for 343…. Or more like they need you…

[@apex3d595]

right? its insane he isn't working for 343

[@stephenchant8245]

What is that outro man it practically vibrates my lungs what is it. Your choice of music was perfect for your channel man. Can you put the outro song in the description or something. Legend mate

[@Trollo_Swaggins]

Had to build a training bike. Grabbed a Cuban mojito and turned on KZbin. Noticed a new video from Installation 00. Happy

[@huzaifahahmed4303]

Can you do a Lore and Theory on Infusion Gel? What it's purpose is, how it works...how Voridus turned it into a mutagenic bioweapon, used it on his own troops to "upgrade" them, and what the effects were?

[@andrew3203]

Quick suggestion: take the length of the ship, if it's known. Say 5 km long for a certain class. Divide its length with the apparent length of the gun barrels. Say you get 100 meters. Then, you can assume a caliber/slug ratio, usually 50/1 in naval guns, and you get the slug length, thus 2 meters. Compare it with known naval shells to get a diameter. Say you get 40 cms diameter. Thus, now you have everything to calculate impact energy, assuming the same Mach 10 speed.

[@zonnodon163]

Using bullets instead of seafaring naval guns is very inadequate. Folks need a good picture for these massive space faring turrets that will combat various threats. And what kind of sucks is that these things were more of a feature after Halo 2 came out. An era that brought about different revisions of various vehicles and weapons. Even though the games still had the scaling issue throughout the franchise....

[@shunyuanliang4397]

I think a good reference on the shape of the slug is the 25mm slug used in the gauss warthog. There is a pic on halopedia i think.

[@nihilityjoey]

The opening of your videos is tremendous.

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

Are you sure the projectile is made of a iron-tungsten alloy and not a Tungsten projectile with an Iron core to it? Don’t want insult you but I know some bullets and shells have different cores to affect it penetration.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

He's not well versed with firearms iirc

[@Claymore_Chicken]

It would make more sense to have a steel cased tungsten core projectile. Tungsten is much much denser, and the iron in the steel would be much better affected by the magnetic coils if it were on the outside.

[@gingergorilla695]

@@Claymore_Chicken this. Though, I wonder what would happen if you made it iridium or osmosium cored

[@hideousruin]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 Neither are you. A MAC Canon isn't a firearm.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@hideousruin munitions engineering has relation to firearms engineering

[@mattmc9812]

No wonder UNSC developed casaba howitzer which are nukes that transform into a plasma beam and nuke pumped x-ray laser nukes. Penetrate covenant shield and then shred the ships apart with these powerful guns

[@halolover6893]

Is there any youtubers that play sins of the prophets regularly? I love this mod but the videos I find on it are years old

[@billycoleman5927]

The lack of information tells me 343 needs to do a halo fleet type of game similar to the star trek online mmo

[@centurymemes1208]

why cant we see more mac guns firing? any footage like cairo station firing on view and actually hitting covenant ships i dont like mere words being said that it works or its powerful without showing it

[@madness0169]

I would love to see a video on the Covenant Naval Plasma Weaponry on their ships now. Then again, feel free to refresh my memory if 00 covered this already.

[@zonnodon163]

A general description of such

[@robertharris6092]

Sins of the profet is so horridly balanced. I played as UNSC against a easy covenant AI and lost multiple times. Then when i played as covenant against the highest difficulty i won without even trying. Which seems insane whrn you consider how powerful super MACs are. Being able to 1 shot any ship the covenant wields.

[@gloriousmaria5117]

Assuming that the penetrating diameter of a Mach 10.6 coilgun is the same ratio of a savot round is a massive assumption that I can’t get behind.

[@xcrossheart]

Hey did anyone notice a jump cut in halo between chief and the weapon's conversation??? Its quit intriguing for one shot gameplay thing 343 talking about and some one also mention this on youtube

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

Isn’t a Mac Gun considered a WOMD like a nuke

[@jacobstewart1950]

*John walking the infinity* this is my rifle this is my gun, this is for fighting this is for fun

[@gunsarrus7836]

A mod that actually interests me

[@lateefpou2986]

This may sound corny but I truly appreciate your hard work and dedication. Every time I watch a video. A grunt dies in glorious birthday death 💀 lmfao. Carry on

[@tonymondelli1732]

Not sure if I’m first or not, watching this 12 seconds after uploading.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Excellent… with this knowledge I will use this power for evil! Speaking of, tell the Sins of the Prophets guys to get me some accurate blueprints so I can add their unique models to my to-scale model collection. (Preferably on your updated scale.)

[@markmulder9845]

Ordis: Gun, GUN GUUUUUUUUN!

[@spacemichael1177]

Tjese types of vids are my fav 00🔥🔥🔥

[@jaw0449]

What material do you think would be good for a Gauss cannon? As a trained physicist so I get the idea but I can't figure out some of the materials that could withstand repeated firing

[@TheJawsProductions]

were you able to use the point defence weapon range brought up in Oblivion when making those calculations or would it not have mattered?

[@sammyspartan926]

Where did you get the opening screenshots of the ship guns? Or are those like space engineers?

[@GlorfindelofGondolin]

Very nice. Love Sins of the Prophets!

[@JUNIsLuke]

Also dude all I can say in this is thank you 🙏

[@Spartanferdowsrex]

Wonderful. So a question got most of us halo fans busy. Can the halo universe defeat the star wars universe in space battle? I say we can but we love to hear your thoughts

[@powertothepapol2803]

Just commenting to help the channel.

[@joeylawell3590]

Petition to teach this man the word -Assume- Not “Achume” “Ashume” “Athume” “Ass” like the fucking donkey, cmon guy. 😂 great lore tho

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

Wait did you just compare Mac guns to normal bullets? Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare it to actual naval guns Or tank shells?

[@SpockBorg5]

Can anyone tell me why the humans don't use energy weapons? Judging by their tech level stuff like lasers and particle beams should be a very mature technology.

[@mattmc9812]

2551 onager is a 25 cm slug

[@ekscalybur]

If your space combat vessel's kinetic energy weapons rounds aren't moving at *significant* fractions of the speed of light, then they were not worth the effort to produce or the energy required to fire them. At the distances involved, even a lumbering barge can dodge shots that take 10s of seconds to connect. And the closer you get to the speed of light, the less important the mass of your round becomes.

[@bentuovila5296]

Yea it would make more sense to shoot steel bbs at a higher velocity.

[@robertharris6092]

Long range combat is what the MAC is for. The coil guns are for close range.

[@ekscalybur]

@@robertharris6092 The velocities given for the weapon systems in this video are worthless for 'close range' space combat. The options given these parameters are long range artillery strikes, or knife fighting. Most of the battleground is not covered.

[@colchronic]

"Ashcewm" Love your videos

[@matthewcrime3769]

more great content. keep it up.

[@gpheonix1]

did you redo your outro? It sounds a more rushed than what I remember.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

Still waiting for a good Halo mod for Homeworld 2 Remastered

[@CrackDCat]

Is there a Sins of the Prophets mod for my discount Star Wars Empire at War ass? XD

[@jaxsgamesiguess9731]

Pew pew

[@bmxdude1337]

I love guns I love Halo

[@soph1823]

I'm surprised about how slow the projectiles are, the earliest railguns, and even some experimental cannons (ECT) have a velocity of between 5km/s and 7km/s, while modern tank guns have a velocity of between 2-3km/s, making these weapons comparable to modern systems, this maybe due to the era halo was made in but right now, the UNSC are extremely underpowered, not just against the covenant, but also against alot of modern systems.

[@bentuovila5296]

Especially with the velocity of some of the MAC guns being measured as a fraction of C.

[@soph1823]

@@bentuovila5296 yeah, I was personally shocked by the Rampart as, If I'm remembering correctly, it would make AA weapons from the 70s more effective

[@bentuovila5296]

Mach 10 is currently beyond anything we have. But it's nothing for a space battle. When you look at what weapons you need to fight over interplanetary distances you get into world killing WMD territory really fast. If I remember the numbers for the super MAC video correctly a single round was something like the entire nuclear arsenal in output.

[@soph1823]

@@bentuovila5296 Modern experimental weapons such as the US navy Railgun and a weapon type known as ElectroChemicalThermal are capable of reach 7km/s, significantly over Mach 10, while a type of missile known as a KEM is capable of reaching Mach 5, modern weapons are horrifyingly fast, issue is the the necessary modifications to the logistics systems required to bring them into service

[@Matt-yg8ub]

@@soph1823 The trade-off here is that the Rampart point defense gun is a rapid fire battery. Modern technology might be able to propel a single round to an ultimate higher velocity, But the rapidfire nature of the rampart makes it a far superior system in terms of point defense capability. You’re comparing what would be a modern ship to ship weapon, to a halo point defense gun.

[@catsareamazing3616]

Question is the mod for the first sins of an empire or is it for rebellion

[@kevinweber5919]

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion is the game that Sins of the Prophets is for.

[@catsareamazing3616]

@@kevinweber5919 Ty so much my friend

[@kevinweber5919]

@@catsareamazing3616 No problem! It is really neat seeing more people hearing about this mod

[@catsareamazing3616]

@@kevinweber5919 I mean I own the first one on disc I just never played rebellion before

[@Jellytarts1]

Cool

[@TheRealCoozi]

Dude I keep getting unsubscribed from your channel, every time I watch the new trailer I see your comment and resubscribe. Any idea why this is happening?

[@octopunch9300]

Yes! First one! Fornthe algorithm!

[@cullenwalsh9733]

Be bo be bo and more please

[@InveterateMendaciousness]

Thall guns.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

do they djent?

[@InveterateMendaciousness]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 *breaking the covenant begins*

[@Blitzkrieg23]

Halo and star wars "what if" future video?

[@infrestitucho8721]

that would be an very interesting video. since both universes are epic space operas. they would fit pretty well in an crossover.

[@firescar2206]

Early squad

[@syd4952]

Mod was good. Too bad they keep making it less balanced and less fun.

[@kylerblossom2924]

First

[@firescar2206]

Fake news

[@jaxsgamesiguess9731]

Lol