Naval Logistics - Where does the food, fuel and ammo go?

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Drachinifel

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@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 14 сағат бұрын
Pinned post for Q&A :)
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 14 сағат бұрын
Which individual ship was the least efficient in terms of stores expended over her entire operational history versus her actual achievements?
@thisisabcoates
@thisisabcoates 14 сағат бұрын
How much did warship storerooms change through the ages? Obviously an Age of Sail first rate didn't need fuel tanks, but are there any other notable differences in how supplier were stored?
@WarrantOfficerWill22
@WarrantOfficerWill22 14 сағат бұрын
I know that standard shipping containers hadn't been invented yet, but bardges had. Had the US Merchant marine got the plans for their C8 class (a barge carrier design from the late 60s) assuming that the plans were modified to be capable of being built with 1940s technology, how useful would it have been and which theature would they see the most use in?
@EvanChordar
@EvanChordar 13 сағат бұрын
To satisfy my americanness. What is the highest number of mounted guns ever put on a warship?
@richardbennett1856
@richardbennett1856 13 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your brilliant examination of storage spaces. I'm worn out after Watch, Resupply and GQ. I'm new. Where is my rack? Where do I bathe? How do you find your way around a fleet carrier?
@VintageCarHistory
@VintageCarHistory 14 сағат бұрын
The forward storeroom was a lot of fun once empty after a deployment. A big empty space that, in heavy seas, pitched quite a bit. So, when on the crest of a wave, you jump and the deck falls away below you. The goal is to get maximum airtime without breaking a leg.
@Belligerent_Herald
@Belligerent_Herald 12 сағат бұрын
Had the bottom fall out going up a double ladderwell on the Nassau. Managed to grab a cable run in the overhead and had to hang there until the ship took its next wave.
@Absaalookemensch
@Absaalookemensch 12 сағат бұрын
A couple of us were the only people on an empty C-17 through combat airspace while it did combat evasive flying. Playing catch in the back was a blast. You throw the ball, the plane turns so the ball looks like it turns sideways in mid air. Best curve ball in history.
@GeneralKenobiSIYE
@GeneralKenobiSIYE 9 сағат бұрын
So Drach was right?! These storerooms ARE magical!! 🪄🪄🪄🪄
@rushbicketybam1868
@rushbicketybam1868 6 сағат бұрын
Funny I haven't thought about gravity games in almost 20 years- AOE's tend to not dive much except in the heaviest swells, but will roll pretty well. We would play a game of walking a p- way: first you are on the deck, then walking the bulkhead and so on and so on. Miss those good times even though I didn't so much back then:)
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 4 сағат бұрын
Fantail jumping! Almost forgot that one . USCG 👍
@cliffcliffdafif9426
@cliffcliffdafif9426 11 сағат бұрын
Can we please please please please get more videos like this covering the rest of the ship?!??!? Crew quarters, machine spaces, workshops, etc. I would particularly be interested in breaking down the use of space in the superstructure.
@dougermouse
@dougermouse 5 сағат бұрын
It would be fun to partner with Ryan S of USS NJ or another one of the big ship curators to have them take a photo of some of these spaces so you can have both the plan view like this, but actually get to see the space as it exists right now.
@kwad8
@kwad8 5 сағат бұрын
I would add for future videos like these maybe a side view so we can see how low/high in the ship each level is what discussing said level.
@andersed1
@andersed1 14 сағат бұрын
Acids are mostly for cleaning. Those really deep store rooms are probably “treasure rooms”. Everybody, every unit, and every ship has a junk drawer. All sorts of interesting things are squirreled away for just in case. Mostly off the books. My aviation maintenance unit had enough off the books IC for an entire spare F-18. Highly illegal, security risk and all that, but when the call comes down to get all the planes up for deployment NOW, not having to go through supply for parts for a short period shortenes the turnaround time drastically, and that makes the officers look really good, so they don’t look to hard…
@VintageCarHistory
@VintageCarHistory 13 сағат бұрын
Oh, we would squirrel away things into any nook and cranny imaginable. I recall that Jimbone tried to store a couple of bonsai trees in the overhead of gun plot. Problem was that gunplot has all the radar and computer stuff and so is well air conditioned. His trees got blasted by artificial arctic winds and within a week were completely freeze dried.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 10 сағат бұрын
Ah, the Goodie Locker...
@danieldunlap4077
@danieldunlap4077 9 сағат бұрын
Didn't the CO of vfa 125 get fired because of that 20 years ago?
@tampaguy2395
@tampaguy2395 8 сағат бұрын
So a room filled with bread bag ties, chopsticks, opened utensil packs, and IKEA kit tools. Respect.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 7 сағат бұрын
@@tampaguy2395 😄
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 14 сағат бұрын
"At the bottom of the ocean" -Submariners
@darkadmiral106
@darkadmiral106 14 сағат бұрын
I had an Uncle who served with the modern German U Boat fleet. They had a joke that is hard to translate, but basically it said "If it swims, we can make it disappear"
@Belligerent_Herald
@Belligerent_Herald 13 сағат бұрын
I don’t get on ships that sink on purpose.
@Oksobasically2
@Oksobasically2 12 сағат бұрын
@@Belligerent_Heraldand i prefer boats that arent targets
@darkadmiral106
@darkadmiral106 12 сағат бұрын
@@Belligerent_Herald It's worse. They sink *themselves* on purpose
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 12 сағат бұрын
Bart Mancuso (of Red October fame) says again and again in the books that he thinks of everything on the surface as a target.
@michaelsullo3698
@michaelsullo3698 13 сағат бұрын
S.D Storage includes common spare parts, organizational clothing (winter gear, boots, combat gear), bedding, office supplies, and other supplies that other departments do not have the space for. As you may or may not realize, a significant portion of the of the S.D. Storage contains toilet paper.
@cpt_nordbart
@cpt_nordbart 13 сағат бұрын
Given that thing that happened 4 years ago I'm not surprised people needed a big supply of TP.
@draco84oz
@draco84oz 5 сағат бұрын
Could you almost say that the endurance of a ship is not based on its fuel supply, but by its paper supply? (both office and bathroom types...) . . . . And on that note, do ships just dump waste of that type, or do they maintain sumps so it can be dealt with in port instead? Although that opens up questions about greywater reuse from showers, grease traps from the galley and/or hangars etc. (I'm a drainage engineer by trade)
@danieltaylor5231
@danieltaylor5231 4 сағат бұрын
@@draco84oz Once you are a certain distance from land, I don't remember how far, you just pump it to sea.
@ChuJungyin
@ChuJungyin 3 сағат бұрын
TP is a very important thing to keep in supply. 🧻
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 11 минут бұрын
If you run out of toilet paper there's always the fire hoses, if you're brave enough :-)
@Niftynorm1
@Niftynorm1 13 сағат бұрын
The mysteries of the 'storekeepers' were not answered on our ship until we decommissioned the ship. Found many 'missing/never received' medical supplies buried in the wrong store rooms/spaces! Fortunately unscrupulous crew members didn't discover the large quantity of missing narcotics! Never a dull moment in the USN. LOL Also to access the less frequently used store rooms you needed to notify the Gas Free Engineer to ensure the space was safe to enter.
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
Imagine discovering after 25 years the cheese cellar on a floating hotel 😂 Regards from France 😉👍
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 10 сағат бұрын
Tales tell of an old barrel of salted pork that was just carried across and along the royal navy for "we don't know" or hundreds of years, like we took it of HMS Vanguard and it was from HMS Victory...
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 7 сағат бұрын
Seeing those diagrams brings back some memories. My Grandmother's main job during WW2 was drafting. She and her many colleagues basically scaled up and down drawings for industrial and military purposes. She'd take a massive blueprint covering a large table and redraw them to fit smaller sheets or blow up a small image into something that could cover a large table. Her abiding memory of that time revolved around the way the office was arranged: The ladies were mostly kept upstairs while the men worked downstairs. The ladies, being ladies, had the privilege of having the office's sole heater (for coffee and warmth) while the men downstairs just endured the chill and were supposed to come up the stairs to get their own coffee. Being wonderfully kind ladies, they took to heating pennies on the heater until searing hot and flinging them downstairs to see who'd pick them up. The ladies, being actually wonderfully kind ladies, regularly brought down hot coffee instead of forcing the men to come upstairs to get their own. It was a good arrangement and they got a LOT of work done despite the burned fingers.
@OtakuLoki
@OtakuLoki 12 сағат бұрын
A point about the multiplicity of water tanks: You don't want to be filling the same tanks that you're drawing water from. for any particular service. While it's possible, you'd prefer to be able to test the water in a tank before putting that tank into service. So, ideally, you'll have at least three tanks for a given use: One ready for use, one being filled from the distillation plants, and one supplying the load. Then compound this by the number of active distillation plants aboard ship: My ship had two enginerooms, each with an independent distillation plant, that could nominally supply a large fraction of the design water needs of the ship - and in practice could meet the needs of the ship by itself, if we went to strict water rationing. I'm guessing that an Iowa would have at least a distillation plant per engineroom. Though those may have been less efficient than the ones we had aboard a later era ship. Each distillation plant/engineroom would have it's own dedicated potable water tanks; and it's own dedicated boiler/engineering feed water tanks. Furthermore, since the quality of the water your distillation plant is going to vary based upon whether the intent is to produce feed water or pot water, your distillation plant can only produce one or the other.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 4 сағат бұрын
You need to make sure your drinking water had at least the minimum required content of aviation fuel!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 4 минут бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 The sweet, sweet taste of JP-5!
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
Being French, I did cancel my meetings when I read food in the title 😂... Now I am waiting the chapter about wine and cheese cellar, for garlic, hams, they are obviously kept in the boiler room where depending on the period they will have this great smoked flavor or a more exotic fuel one 😂
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 3 сағат бұрын
I'm still looking for the Armagnac storeroom. :)
@crazyguy32100
@crazyguy32100 9 сағат бұрын
21:44 For the gasoline tanks I can't speak for Wisconsin but New Jersey currently has 2 in that space used to store the JP5 for helicopters. At some point a bulkhead was ran fore-aft and split the room, leaving the 2 tanks on the port side. Ryan and Libby put a video out on it a few years ago, the 1984 plans show that space, 7-204-2-E
@jamesgates1074
@jamesgates1074 14 сағат бұрын
When you think about it Food is food for the sailors. Ammo is food for the guns. Fuel is food for the engines. And Parts are food for the machines. It's all just food.
@TomSedgman
@TomSedgman 13 сағат бұрын
And the books in the library or classrooms are food for thought
@anonnymousperson
@anonnymousperson 13 сағат бұрын
I guess it depends on how you define food. Edible food is used by humans for energy and to build their own body. Guns don't use ammunition for energy or to build themselves. Engines do use fuel for energy, but not to build themselves. Machines don't use parts for energy, but do use them to build themselves.
@Frankenspank67
@Frankenspank67 13 сағат бұрын
And poop is food for the toilettes
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
Guys you are awesome 😁​@@anonnymousperson
@cpt_nordbart
@cpt_nordbart 13 сағат бұрын
That's food for thought.
@anthonyvancampen6729
@anthonyvancampen6729 5 сағат бұрын
The landing force magazines will be where the heavier equipment of an infantry brigade will be stored. Things like Browning Automatic Rifles, M1919 .30 cal. machine guns, and grenades. The landing force gear locker will have the field gear not normally needed on ship. Load carrying webbing, rucksacks, ammunition pouches, etc.
@Rdeboer
@Rdeboer 14 сағат бұрын
I remember reading that two thousand eggs were cooked every morning aboard _Princess Royal_ alone, and another thousand in the evening. The Grand Fleet must have consumed an enormous quantity of eggs per year.
@Stella-gm7bo
@Stella-gm7bo 14 сағат бұрын
Now imagine the amount of tea
@Anon4859
@Anon4859 13 сағат бұрын
With 60,000 men in the Grand Fleet circa Jutland it would take 100,000 hens to meet demand for just one egg per man per day. That daily allowance would weigh 3600kg.
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας 13 сағат бұрын
​​@@Stella-gm7boNow imagine the amount of farts
@emmgeevideo
@emmgeevideo 13 сағат бұрын
I salute you, Capt. Obvious!!
@oneeyedakuma9448
@oneeyedakuma9448 10 сағат бұрын
​@@emmgeevideoshhh kiddo nobody asked you
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake 5 сағат бұрын
My father was a navigation officer in 1945. He had to attend navigation briefings on larger ships and from time to time he was “lucky” enough to be the presenter for that weekly meeting. For meetings on fleet carriers, they had little to grumble about. Space was tightest on the older battleships and cruisers. The absolute worst for him was when they met on old battleships, which were quite cramped. Escort carriers were rarely used except when certain senior officers insisted on remaining on their ships.
@dimitriapostola3119
@dimitriapostola3119 10 сағат бұрын
Love the channel - can I suggest for a follow up, the next time you go on a field trip to a battleship of some sort, maybe you can do a special case first person view getting some generic supply into one of the store rooms so we might get a sense of what it looks like and how long it would take
@steveschulte8696
@steveschulte8696 11 сағат бұрын
A bit of commentary. The Ships Store and Comm office is not a storeroom, per se, it held the officers and CPO's of the supply division during the day. The Repair lockers are not stowage spaces, but store the equipment for damage control and to direct the DC teams when everything is on fire. There are many engineering storerooms that store those items needed quickly for day to day sailing. The SD storerooms forward and lower in the ship store large, heavy, and bulky items that could fit through the deck hatch. There is usually a pad eye above the hatch to attach a chain hoist, or block and tackle, to move items up and down. The supply department issue room on a carrier or newer LST was usually down a couple of ladders from the main deck. I did not like going down six ladders to get a part on a carrier. Or going down several ladders, through several 18" scuttles, and through several water tight doors during refresher training drills. Ships Service stores would be items like laundry soap, ships store is where you could buy a candy bar, and they had storerooms for them. Ships Servicemen (SSx ratings) are the people who sell candy and personal soap, wash the laundry, repair uniforms, and cut hair.
@BalshazzarWastebasket
@BalshazzarWastebasket 14 сағат бұрын
oh , a battle ship awful lot of supplies, and naval history geeks need an awful lot of drachinifel post. could we make a story about the logistic issues of supplying naval history geeks with a steady supply of posts, which must be of the highest of quality, filled with dry humor, and based on thorough research.
@Kevin_Kennelly
@Kevin_Kennelly 13 сағат бұрын
Rather Wonderful Drachisms of the Day. 22:52 "A rather wonderfully labeled 'Explosives and Grenades' ". 32:02 "The rather wonderfully named 'Supply Department: Acid Locker'. I will leave it to others to describe what the acids, stored aboard, are used for. Spoiler Alert: It's not quite as exciting as you might think." Bonus Drachism (not as wonderful): 35:16 "The rather entertainingly named 'Chemical Warfare Materials Stowage'."
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
Drachism are one of the things that makes this channel exceptional
@questionmark05
@questionmark05 14 сағат бұрын
USS Wisconsin is missing the most important storage room, the wine store! Or, even more importantl, the rum room! Also, considering they may have known about its fate aboard rodney, I'm surprised USS Wisconsin of all ships didn't create a dedicated cheese store in an armoured section, gotta protect the important things first.
@jameshunter2993
@jameshunter2993 13 сағат бұрын
US ships where dry ships ...no alcohol except 'medicinal'.....officially
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
​@@jameshunter2993well us designers never understood that a dry ship is a ship without water inside the hull, nothing more 😂
@Aiwendill
@Aiwendill 12 сағат бұрын
this is not the french ship! nor british one! Instead you have ice cream machine here!
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 12 сағат бұрын
@Aiwendill with rum raisin flavor or colonel (vodka lemon 😋🥰)
@thepsychicspoon5984
@thepsychicspoon5984 10 сағат бұрын
​@@khaelamensha3624 Americans hate alcohol.
@vonnassau3481
@vonnassau3481 14 сағат бұрын
Love those, that go about naval logistics
@nmccw3245
@nmccw3245 7 сағат бұрын
“We are quite deep in the ship” - Drachinifel Truer words have never been spoken. 😂🤣😅
@bullettube9863
@bullettube9863 4 сағат бұрын
You forgot to point out the ice cream ingredients store room! All US navy ships had one, even, according to my father, on Destroyer Escorts! His ship had just one ice cream maker and when it broke down it was replaced quickly as it was considered a high priority item. I'm guessing the bigger the crew the bigger demand and thus more ice cream machines and more storage space.
@KR-hg8be
@KR-hg8be 4 сағат бұрын
Even Pt boats had a freezer specifically for ice cream as it was considered a critical item for moral for guys serving in the tropics.
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 Сағат бұрын
My ship, the USS Guam LPH 9 didn't have an ice cream maker. Maybe there was one in the ward room but not in the enlisted mess decks
@generalgrievous2202
@generalgrievous2202 Сағат бұрын
​@@KR-hg8bethere were modified pt boats designed to run around and deliver ice cream rations to marine troops during the various pacific island campaigns!
@billyshakespeare17
@billyshakespeare17 13 сағат бұрын
Thanks Drach! This is right in my wheelhouse. I served in Rumor Control, Mess Deck Central aboard the USS Neverdock. We were home ported in Bumfuch, Egypt, ComCarTray, ComSrvButr.
@NickiesAdventureChannel
@NickiesAdventureChannel 13 сағат бұрын
Just what I needed today ! A drach upload … many thanks mate
@caseyo6033
@caseyo6033 13 сағат бұрын
Spent a little time aboard a US ship, I think they called it "on-boarding". Whenever they called for that work party you better be very busy doing something else or near impossible to find. There are far more strenuous duties, that one just takes forever in what looks like a bucket brigade. Regarding the booze, we did have a "steel beach" party. Cases and Cases of name brand beer, a nominal limit of 2 beers per person. As this was a deployment to a combat zone perhaps it works different on regular floats, maybe on a regular float you just drink off ship but can confirm limited alcohol on US ships.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 10 сағат бұрын
“All hands E4 and below report to the fantail to take on stores”
@emmgeevideo
@emmgeevideo 12 сағат бұрын
A very interesting related video would be how inventory was managed during the war, i.e., prior to computer-based inventory management systems. I can imagine that it was relatively easy to find, say, a replacement fuse when you needed one. But at some point the inventory management people would need to order more to keep inventory levels at the required level. I would imagine that while the ship was at sea there would be an ever-growing list of supplies to be ordered and ready for loading when you get back to port. Even better would be an explanation of the ocean-going supply ships that serviced warships who weren't returning to port anytime soon.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 10 сағат бұрын
NAVSUP 1250 requisition forms, tons and tons of them.
@roberthilton5328
@roberthilton5328 9 сағат бұрын
In the 80s, the US Navy stocking of spare parts on ships between overhauls or commissioning was with the COSAL (Coordinated Shipboard Allowance?). The supply command back then (I recall it was in Pennsylvania) had an inventory management system based on analysis of criticality of the system and forecasted or actual demand of the part and its criticality. Back in the 80s I remember they were still using punch cards for entry of the parts.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 7 сағат бұрын
@@roberthilton5328 Yup, until SNAP II started digitalizing the system.
@josephkyle1557
@josephkyle1557 13 сағат бұрын
would love to hear more about Naval food in future episodes.
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 13 сағат бұрын
Well if you do not have seen it, there is a great episode about wooden ship food with Drach in the kitchen of Lady Drachinifel. The fact this particular episode did not won an Emmy or academy award is one of 5he biggest scandal of the century
@KR-hg8be
@KR-hg8be 4 сағат бұрын
Various editions of the cookbook of the US Navy are available for free or in print still. The ww2 edition I've looked through had quite a lot of recipes that had me wondering " did anyone ever actually cook this?", some of it was a lot more interesting than you would think.The descriptions of the food my grandfather's had in the navy during ww2 and Korea was generally pretty decent if you didn't mind it being kind of bland, one of the 2 was pretty happy with it being bland food even by the standards of the time. Ww2 sailor granddad said the food was one of the biggest reasons to join the navy, all the coffee you could drink and fresh white wheat bread every day was a real perk to a generation who had in some cases nearly starved to death or eaten nothing but cornbread and lard for long peiods of time during the depression. The tasting history channel has done a few navy food episodes, the Thanksgiving one was pretty impressive.
@Claymore5
@Claymore5 14 сағат бұрын
Fascinating breakdown Drach! Loved it!
@Charmine42
@Charmine42 11 сағат бұрын
I know about the alcohol lockers on American warships. Any capital ship is going to play the role of floating embassy occasionally. Hosting ranking American politicians and foreign dignitaries. The alcohol lockers are for high end wine and liquor for dinner parties.
@Alsadius
@Alsadius 14 сағат бұрын
*looks at video title* Into the ships, I'd imagine?
@codebasher1
@codebasher1 11 сағат бұрын
This is beyond wonderful. My wife and I had the privilege of touring the uss independencer and uss mobile bay in 1992 in Australia. We utterly enjoyed the tour but I have always wondered where things like mess areas were etc etc below the hanger deck as we only had access to hanger and above.. By extrapolation I now understand. Thank you so much.
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 13 сағат бұрын
On my ship, we kept the beer in the torpedo magazine.
@MartinCHorowitz
@MartinCHorowitz 6 сағат бұрын
Drach's new wallpaper design showing the storage layout of the Wisconsin should be a big seller this year.
@amnucc
@amnucc 8 сағат бұрын
@Drachinifel have you done any segments of the logistics required to operate USN fleets across the Pacific and away from established naval facilities? The Ulithi Anchorage recreated a naval base with: - fuel stores - ammunition - food stores - recreation facilities - floating drydocks and repair facilities - hospitals and other medical facilities All were transported across the Pacific (thousands of miles) and had to established from nothing. After establishment they had to be supplied on a continuous basis. The amount of Industrial and shipping capacity needed to ready and supply a military force so far from home boggles my mind.
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 12 сағат бұрын
30:54 Port side, just forward of frame 197, next to the detention cell, what the hell is "Lucky Bag C-338L"?
@michaelwest4325
@michaelwest4325 11 сағат бұрын
Lucky Bag is lost and found aboard ship as far as I understand.
@MrDmitriRavenoff
@MrDmitriRavenoff 10 сағат бұрын
It has replaced the Barrel from earlier days.
@mark_wotney9972
@mark_wotney9972 11 сағат бұрын
You did a great job of preparing the graphics.
@craigmorris4083
@craigmorris4083 12 сағат бұрын
Oh how I wish you would put out more vids on naval logistics. Thank you for this one. Very informative, as always Drach.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 14 сағат бұрын
If CPO Pertwee is involved, then they go to his Uncle Ebenezer, and any item with the monogram WD was supplied by a generous benefactor, Mr Wensley Dale. Plus, he has a dozen witnesses who will swear blind that he was nowhere near whatever it was whenever it went missing.
@antoninuspius1747
@antoninuspius1747 9 сағат бұрын
Ahhhh, logistics!!!! A favorite subject of mine. Really. I study the US Civil War and I laugh when you see/hear of a general being criticized for an action by KZbinrs and there's no understanding of how logistics played a critical role in his decision.
@bryansmith1920
@bryansmith1920 14 сағат бұрын
Drach the one thing I can promise as a 70yr old Brit that has crewed, Sailing Yachts, I would(although I'm scared of heights) man a Ship o the Line, I would man a Iron Man o War, as long as it wasn't coal powered(until I was 8yrs old my family home had Coal fires back boilers also)to this day the Stink of coal dust makes me Gag, But one year I shared a flotilla holiday yacht, with a Sub-Marineer(current on leave from a RN sub)whenever we put the Iron sail on, he could be found, snuggled up to the engine-box 🤔🤔🤔
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 Сағат бұрын
We had two vertical tray conveyors on my ship. When were were loading food boxes someone (usually a Marine) was supposed to remove them from the tray at the proper level. Usually they didn't and the next tray came down it would crash onto the box that was there. Then the whole thing had to taken out of service for repairs. We eventually gave up on them and shut the doors to them and everything had to be hand carried down the ladders to the storerooms.
@trescatorce9497
@trescatorce9497 7 сағат бұрын
i'm amazed at the draftsmen skills. no CAD BS. hand drawn all the way. how big were the original drawings?. i know it's a female dog to do, but for this video it would help to see a particular deck relative to the waterline.
@tallsamjones1489
@tallsamjones1489 4 сағат бұрын
Would love to see this detailed breakdown for the rest of the ship
@Welshman2008
@Welshman2008 14 сағат бұрын
The food goes fine until the cooks get their hands on it.
@andy4an
@andy4an 10 сағат бұрын
35:11 "chemical warfare materials stowage" is a pretty funny name for that! thanks for all the color coding, that's fantastic
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks Drach
@NeistH2o
@NeistH2o 4 сағат бұрын
Amazing video thank you so much!
@TexasSpectre
@TexasSpectre 6 сағат бұрын
Where does the food, fuel and ammo go? Well, if you're the Imperial Japanese Navy after the US gets the Mk14 torpedo working, mostly it goes to the bottom of the Pacific. Or the Sea of Japan, Philippine Sea, etc., etc. Where they put the supplies on a particular ship pretty much didn't matter. :P
@Oliepolie
@Oliepolie 4 сағат бұрын
Im not sure if this would interest you (or perhaps youve already covered it) but maybe you could make a video about the various methods of rescue downed naval pilots or seamen had to go through, i.e. floation devices and forms of signaling (besides the mark 1 eyeball) and maybe even their evolution over the course of time.
@tylerservies3380
@tylerservies3380 Сағат бұрын
As a retired USN Supply Corps officer, I’d expect the ‘SD Storerooms’ to be repair parts storage. The stores for the laundry, ship’s store, etc.. have separately marked spaces as do the various types of food stuffs (which I believe you skipped right over the fresh provisions storage). Perhaps you don’t believe in veggies😂
@larryaftertheroad6174
@larryaftertheroad6174 6 сағат бұрын
You forgot to mention the storeroom for storing unruly sailors on the 3rd deck.
@dave3156
@dave3156 Сағат бұрын
Very well done Drach--excellent way of color coding and summarizing the various types of storage. I wonder if the chemical storage may contain starlight shells? Great job thanks!!!
@ketchman8299
@ketchman8299 14 сағат бұрын
Last time I was this early they had just laid down "VIctory".
@carlcarlton764
@carlcarlton764 11 сағат бұрын
The rum goes into the sailors. Gotta keep them fighting men well fueled.
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my 2 сағат бұрын
All available hands for replenishment detail! Amazing how much painting is required for fighting
@tjmcdermott
@tjmcdermott 4 сағат бұрын
Fantastic presentation. Would you consider doing a similar presentation for the KGV class?
@Spartan0381
@Spartan0381 12 сағат бұрын
This will be very helpful when I design spacefaring warships. Thank you
@robertfrost1683
@robertfrost1683 6 сағат бұрын
Very good information.
@isaiahjerue6564
@isaiahjerue6564 12 сағат бұрын
Hey Drach, I'm very interested in the developmental history of French ironclads throughout the 1850s through to the 1860s similar to your developmental history of British ironclads video series and would much appreciate a series of videos on that topic, thank you.
@cowishere8222
@cowishere8222 4 сағат бұрын
I just visited Wisconsin this year!
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 8 сағат бұрын
Another question about the weaknesses inherent in battleship design - why did so many ships that blew up, start the blowing up process by their secondary armament magazines blowing up first, which led to the main magazines blowing up. Supposedly, this happened to Hood, and Arizona, and a couple others that blew up.
@creativetimewasting
@creativetimewasting 11 сағат бұрын
Blimey! I still haven’t got through all of Sundays Drydock yet.
@pmgn8444
@pmgn8444 2 сағат бұрын
Would love a logistic video on the RN for 1860 to 1914. So how did the RN support it's world ports and coaling stations from 1860 to 1914? How did coal get to the Falklands in this time period? The RFA didn't start till 1905.
@crazybarryfam
@crazybarryfam 12 сағат бұрын
Get out to the museums to see it in person!
@watershedwonders1744
@watershedwonders1744 4 сағат бұрын
While on reping, its saw many noteworthy things, the most eye opening was hotdogs that were grade E, but edible. That ruined the wonderful mac amd cheese that had hotdogs sliced up and added per the recipe card.
@geraintpynn9596
@geraintpynn9596 5 сағат бұрын
I worked in a RNAD depot where we stored shipping gear for RN up to 1990
@joehealy6376
@joehealy6376 9 сағат бұрын
Modern ships have more storage for consumables as things like armored 16inch guns, barbettes, hoists, armor take up lots of space and weight which needs displacement. Missiles are very big but launchers are very small compaired to 16 inch gun turret and barbette.
@jesseestrada8914
@jesseestrada8914 11 сағат бұрын
I was a us marine who came home from Iraq on the bonn hom Richard. I have vague memories of helping the mess sailors stock the freezers. All I remember is how massive it was
@clintwurm1802
@clintwurm1802 6 сағат бұрын
Dry stores had equipment or dry products. One would use a microfishe and get the Nato Stock number to find the details of what the item was. Batteries, flashlights, and "safety glasses" that were short drinking glasses for rum lmol.
@jfangm
@jfangm 6 сағат бұрын
"Where does the food, fuel, and ammo go?" 2nd Pacific Squadron: Yes
@nickjohnson410
@nickjohnson410 7 сағат бұрын
"Excuse me Captain, the crocodile got loose and ate one of the monkeys again... specifically the one that did the Buster Keaton routine." "That is terrible news! That was my favorite monkey. I can only assume morale must be low... time to open the acid locker."
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko 12 сағат бұрын
Where does all the "stuff" come from? In my case, I had a 1st class petty officer (E-6) who I suspect ran a trading post in a past life and he'd always acquire useful items that enabled us to do our job more efficiently.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Сағат бұрын
As an E5 shift supervisor for 1st Lt division (in the USN that refers to the janitorial staff, not a rank), I would have to take a few guys to the base supply store for cleaning and communal hygiene supplies. These aren't just issued freely; every squadron has a budget that it has to stick to for everything it needs (even fuel for the planes!). I would wear my baggy flight suit with the huge pockets, and while my guys distracted the supply clerks, I would be ....... well, I would walk out of there having gained some significant weight without even eating!
@frjonathanhill9817
@frjonathanhill9817 13 сағат бұрын
Of course French ships also had a dedicated wine store!
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 12 сағат бұрын
Do not forget the cheese cellar please 🙏 Regards from France 😉
@Aiwendill
@Aiwendill 12 сағат бұрын
and Jean Bart (Courbet class deadnought) received a direct hit during WWI into that wine store and was effectively unable to fight anymore until the repairs have been made in Malta.
@SingMineshaftGapInAFlatMinor
@SingMineshaftGapInAFlatMinor 11 сағат бұрын
Hey Drach, which spaces are designed for counterflooding or other damage control? Great video, I can't wait to tour the Missouri this summer!
@ReturnoftheNative-w8k
@ReturnoftheNative-w8k 10 сағат бұрын
I live in Fremantle, Western Australia, overlooking the harbour. When the Missouri came here, they parked it right outside my home, & what a sight it was.
@SingMineshaftGapInAFlatMinor
@SingMineshaftGapInAFlatMinor 3 сағат бұрын
Dang, what a treat! As a kid, I visited the Mighty Mo while in the mothball fleet in Bremerton. My grandfather's retirement ceremony was right at the surrender plaque, and my brother was sworn into the navy at that same spot. Good times, Go Navy!
@Halinspark
@Halinspark 2 сағат бұрын
A few of the SD Storerooms are for people to hide and have a nap. Probably at least one was also used, uh, "recreationally". Moreso as navies became more co-ed.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Сағат бұрын
When I was down in Diego Garcia, back when there were very few women in forward units, there was a gal on the Sam Gompers that got busted in a locker inspection with 17 uncashed paychecks and over $3K in cash in her locker. Very thrifty for an E3!
@philipciaffa6643
@philipciaffa6643 11 сағат бұрын
During the commissioned periods: 1944-1948 and 1951-1958 the USS Wisconsin (BB-64) Supply Department would have an S-3 Division with a Sales Officer. Sales Officer would have enlisted Ship's Servicemen (SSM, later SH-rating, now Retail Services Specialist-RS rating), responsible for Barber, Laundry, Dry Cleaning, Cobbler, Tailor, Soda Fountain (later Vending Machines-soft drinks and candies), official USN Uniforms Sales, Ship's Store (Retail convenience/personal items Sales), Storerooms custody, issue and management, purchasing, money handling, recordskeeping and reporting. Paper records and accounting, no computers!
@zachsmith1676
@zachsmith1676 13 сағат бұрын
that's a very nicely stocked barge... be a shame if someone forgot to make sure the dust is kept inside the ammunition and any that is found outside the ammunition is promptly and delicately taken care of...
@WilliamClodius
@WilliamClodius 10 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@werewolfnar
@werewolfnar 4 сағат бұрын
I pulled up a map of the 80s Iowa to follow along with. The gasoline storage is now marked as JP-5 storage. So it looks like they kept the tanks but switched out the fuel.
@ctrl_6256
@ctrl_6256 9 сағат бұрын
On the lowest deck, the second most forward water tank on the starboard side is labeled, in the plans, as freshwater. What's the reason behind your labeling it as reserve feed water? (at 08:34)
@glypnir
@glypnir 5 сағат бұрын
I noticed that too. And it messes up the zigzag pattern.
@Belligerent_Herald
@Belligerent_Herald 13 сағат бұрын
This has not changed, even on something huge like a modern carrier, most of that space is for stores, machinery and equipment. you have gear packed into angle irons, void spaces, fan rooms. Everything square foot is valuable. And most of it is still stowed by hand. All hands working party.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 13 сағат бұрын
Not that it matters in the slightest, I am just showing that I paid attention... around 7:30 one of the Fresh Water is colored as Reserve Feed Water, and the same error is around 8:30 in the summary.
@christhirion9474
@christhirion9474 11 сағат бұрын
Also, notice it. ADHD is a basterd
@richardwoo7987
@richardwoo7987 9 сағат бұрын
Very interesting actually. I wonder how much changes with post WW2 and Aircraft carriers
@EDKguy
@EDKguy 13 сағат бұрын
Dad hid his beer in the bow in WW2. I never thought about the climate control aspect down low, but maybe not so much in Okinawa.
@tarab9081
@tarab9081 3 сағат бұрын
Would be interesting to get Ryan from Battleship New Jersey to comment on this one. They've done a few videos on this topic.
@richardbennett1856
@richardbennett1856 13 сағат бұрын
I feel better for joining the Air Force. Imagine resupply at sea, pitching and rolling in the sleet, with cases of lima beans.
@caseyo6033
@caseyo6033 13 сағат бұрын
If you want short deployments, barracks like hotels, and the best food of any branch, yes the Air Force is the way to go. You will also be the brunt of most every joke from every other branch, with Marines reserving a fair bit of harassment for sailors who are not docs. Marines, the least amount of stuff, with it all old and worn out, but the highest amounts of pride. Air Force, lots of stuff, least amounts of pride ;)
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 2 сағат бұрын
As a USN flyer that spent a lot of time on USAF bases, we used to say that the Navy would build an airbase starting with the runways and then the hangars and then run out of money, and congress would say "Oh, well, you've got your base". The Air Farce starts with the O & E clubs, then the rec hall, then the commissary, then the barracks, and then when they run out of money they tell congress "we have to have more for runways and hangars".
@gstormcz
@gstormcz 12 сағат бұрын
Is it a warship? It's a large floating warehouse.
@animal16365
@animal16365 12 сағат бұрын
I think the acid room was used to store some acids used in repairs to electronics.
@StevenLuken
@StevenLuken 3 сағат бұрын
The ship's store is where the crew would be able to buy candy, tobacco and other items and the ship's service store is where the crew would go to get haircuts and things like that.
@ryanrock6434
@ryanrock6434 14 сағат бұрын
Woooooo firsties
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 14 сағат бұрын
Lets goooo
@bomba1905
@bomba1905 12 сағат бұрын
It goes into the tummies, tanks, and magazines
@thomasmahoney6567
@thomasmahoney6567 Сағат бұрын
On fast supply ships this was called "beans, bullets, and black oil*.
@Shadooe
@Shadooe Сағат бұрын
Doing RAS and even though you're both on the same team, seeing a battleship train a turret at you, has to be slightly disconcerting.
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my Сағат бұрын
Ships Service is basically. Cigarettes, razors, candy, chips... Other comforts
@thebronzegoose9169
@thebronzegoose9169 12 сағат бұрын
Will we be getting a video on the Royal Fleet Auxiliary ?
@Kowalski089
@Kowalski089 9 сағат бұрын
This video could be alternatively titled: “Praise the Lord for the Square/Cube Law”
@18robsmith
@18robsmith 12 сағат бұрын
Hmmmm...... Pipe & bar store - a place to go for a crafty puff on one's pipe while quaffing a pint or three?
@theodorewarthen6061
@theodorewarthen6061 2 сағат бұрын
With seawater being drawn into fuel tanks to act as ballast, were any considerations made for corrosion protection? Was this an issue on the inside of fuel tanks? And was residual salt contamination in the fuel tanks ever an issue that caused engine wear? I imagine there would always be some seawater left even after the tanks were fully pumped out that might then mix with the fuel.
@ethanmckinney203
@ethanmckinney203 4 сағат бұрын
It's funny that 20mm has gone from effective to almost completely ineffective, to almost required for defense against drones and subsonic missiles.
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