The First Sturmgewehr: The MKb42(H)

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

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@connorwinter9257
@connorwinter9257 Ай бұрын
"and acting shocked when that happens." The subtle shade there. We haven't forgotten that guy Lol.
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 Ай бұрын
Who?
@GaryHamad
@GaryHamad Ай бұрын
who?
@sthrich635
@sthrich635 Ай бұрын
The Forgotten guy
@TrinSpin
@TrinSpin Ай бұрын
No clue who you mean. The guy who had the .50 cook off?
@ОлегКорнійчук-е1х
@ОлегКорнійчук-е1х Ай бұрын
@@TrinSpin I think he meant an old video of a guy getting a cook off in his AR-15 after a couple of "click"s. He acts VERY surprised.
@lloyd9846
@lloyd9846 Ай бұрын
This thing absolutely shreds on Red Orchestra 2. You understandably become ridiculously overpowered when you have an assault rifle and every other player is forced to use bolt actions.
@christophersayers598
@christophersayers598 Ай бұрын
Video games are not real life
@Vin_San
@Vin_San Ай бұрын
​@@christophersayers598did he said that? He was talking about in game fact, not real life, don't be a jerk/anti video-game boomer
@Vin_San
@Vin_San Ай бұрын
The SVT 40 isn't avaible on the Soviet side?
@acezabi
@acezabi Ай бұрын
@@christophersayers598 Really? Wasnt aware.
@serpentlord285
@serpentlord285 Ай бұрын
​@@christophersayers598Why do you have to tear the poor guy to shreds for sharing something interesting you douche
@Lustanda
@Lustanda Ай бұрын
The stock and reciever connection just screams "HK". You see it in the G3 and MP5 and the like.
@kutter_ttl6786
@kutter_ttl6786 Ай бұрын
It certainly isn't a coincidence 15:47
@cosmicyoke
@cosmicyoke 27 күн бұрын
They’re direct descendants of the StG rifles!!! StG45(M) specifically
@some-replies
@some-replies 15 күн бұрын
@@kutter_ttl6786 I see it now
@MUCKLEECH
@MUCKLEECH Ай бұрын
Thank you for revisiting this rifle. I think I speak for everyone else in saying that re-done videos like this are MORE THAN welcome!
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 Ай бұрын
I learned something new today--1938 was the first prototypes. Thanks, Ian.
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 Ай бұрын
It's not a tilting-block lockup - it's Haenel-retentive.
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh Ай бұрын
😂
@svetovidarkonsky1670
@svetovidarkonsky1670 Ай бұрын
😁😆🤣🤣
@bradys68
@bradys68 Ай бұрын
Ha nice
@fdp9521
@fdp9521 Ай бұрын
Go to your room... now!
@bobbressi5414
@bobbressi5414 Ай бұрын
How dare you correct Professor Ian!😂
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 Ай бұрын
Honestly like how the MKb42(H) looks compared to the later versions, mostly because of the gas tube being almost as long as the barrel.
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 Ай бұрын
It looks better
@mollymcallister1671
@mollymcallister1671 Ай бұрын
Indeed, I don't know what if anything the 'expansion chamber' lends to the operation of the gun but it does very-well balance-out the aesthetics very nicely.
@wahttehfuk
@wahttehfuk Ай бұрын
Honestly my favorite version of it. It looks brutal, it looks like an ASSAULT rifle, it looks like it came off the factory floor begging to kill. It's such an iconic and insanely cool design.
@DruidTimer
@DruidTimer Ай бұрын
The bayonet lug seals the deal. Battle rifles should have bayonet lugs, because you never know..
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 Ай бұрын
@DruidTimer Mkb42 (H) is not battle rifle
@hopewilliams6705
@hopewilliams6705 Ай бұрын
Damn PSA for getting our hopes up!
@smokeyplane3285
@smokeyplane3285 Ай бұрын
at least they were honest about their shortcomings
@ShutUpBubi
@ShutUpBubi Ай бұрын
Shame on you blaming PSA for another companies f*ckups
@KinoTechUSA69
@KinoTechUSA69 Ай бұрын
It was always those hucksters at HMG, they've been selling lies for YEARS.
@adlerarmory8382
@adlerarmory8382 Ай бұрын
The USA subsidiary of SSD has some MKb42H parts.
@williamskora8920
@williamskora8920 Ай бұрын
Rather than trying to replicate the original in differing calibers and using differing mags, they should have just duplicated it in original calibers and completely original spec dimensions using original design mags.
@RamBam3000
@RamBam3000 Ай бұрын
The OG pattern of grandfather of them all. Thanks for showing it.
@mcorte2224
@mcorte2224 Ай бұрын
A completely unrelated comment, but i'm very thankful about how apolitical, consistent, and to the matter at hand this channel is. It is VERY refreshing and helps me disconect from the worlds noise. Greetings and warm thanks from Spain.
@jidk6565
@jidk6565 28 күн бұрын
I think the only time he's dipped into politics is the rhodesian genocide guy he helped put out a book It's Actually a REALLY good track record with a single smudge I leaves everyone on either side of the aisle feeling pretty good about themselves watching it!
@tgirlshark
@tgirlshark 28 күн бұрын
💀
@rpnvg
@rpnvg 28 күн бұрын
@@jidk6565 Are you a Redditor?
@JohnDoe-vd4br
@JohnDoe-vd4br 26 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more, it's very relaxing and calming watching these videos. He still talks and acts like a normal human being. Apolitical, secular, entertaining and stays on topic. These videos provide a temporary escape from the world.
@tgirlshark
@tgirlshark 26 күн бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vd4br "normal human being" the dogwhistles go crazy with this one 💀
@HE-162
@HE-162 25 күн бұрын
The comment about the hand guard getting hot - anyone who’s had the good fortune to be able to spend some time shooting a sturmgewehr, more than just a quick range rental, knows just how hot that hand guard gets lol. Especially during the summer on a sunny day, after a mag or two it can start to get painfully hot. It’s like the one truly egregious ergonomic oversight made when designing the rifle. They’re such comfortable, intuitive, easy to handle and shoot, natural feeling guns…but my god do you need a glove sometimes if you’re putting one to work 😂 Even just in semi, the thing gets hot. They sure are fun though. I’m very lucky to have a friend with one, and to be able to spend whole afternoons on a backyard range playing with it like it were a cheap 22 plinker. Being able to really spend an extended amount of time handling and shooting it really makes you appreciate just how revolutionary and progressive it was, and how well thought out and designed it was. Truly ahead of its time, and by no means an obsolete or dated platform today. Heavy, sure, but one could easily be modernized with a pic rail and hold its own against modern intermediate cartridge platforms. Truly deserves all the praise and admiration and influence attributed to it.
@liammeech3702
@liammeech3702 18 күн бұрын
I guess soldiers would use asbestos gloves, or wrap something round the barrel?
@HE-162
@HE-162 18 күн бұрын
@ not to my knowledge, guy probably just used normal gloves maybe? Pretty sure the statistics for ww2 firefights suggest most combat lasted only 2-3 minutes at a time, so it probably didn’t cause too many issues. When it does get truly hot, it’s not like it’s so hot it’s going to cause serious burns - it’s just hot enough to be very hard to hold. At least that’s been my experience shooting them. That might be different if you’re nearly ripping mags through it full auto, back to back. It may get hot enough to cause burns in that case but if you’re fighting and needing to rip through mags like that, your adrenaline is probably pumping enough that it doesn’t matter. It’s worth mentioning that while the hand guard gets scalding hot, you can just hold the mag well. That just gets warm, and is just fine to hold even when the hand guard is roasting. In my experience, holding the mag well or even the mag doesn’t seem to cause feeding issues using both original and quality repro mags.
@chefZaphod
@chefZaphod Ай бұрын
Beautiful piece, very jealous of all the neat history you get to put your hands on.
@cbroz7492
@cbroz7492 Ай бұрын
.good dentist friend of mine here inSo FL has one..he bought it for(IIRC) &1500 in the late 70s or early 80s...Ive held it...dude is a HUGE collector of all things NFA...
@mr.stotruppen8724
@mr.stotruppen8724 Ай бұрын
Of course he would be a dentist
@11Kralle
@11Kralle Ай бұрын
Schmeißer ('schmeißen' means 'to chuck') will always by the most iconic name for a weapons-constructor.
@daedalus6433
@daedalus6433 Ай бұрын
Schneide's Futter und Saatgut (ehemals Schmeißer's)
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV Ай бұрын
The "two-barrel" look from the extended gas tube is so damn cool, especially compared to the shorter tubes used on the final design and AK-type designs. Basically peak Dieselpunk/Star Wars Blaster look.
@stuntmanmike37
@stuntmanmike37 Ай бұрын
Looks like an M1.
@NotACutie
@NotACutie Ай бұрын
@@stuntmanmike37 in what shape or form does it resemble an M1
@stuntmanmike37
@stuntmanmike37 29 күн бұрын
@@NotACutie From the hand guard forward. Have you ever seen an M1 Garand?
@jamarrchasingjoe3310
@jamarrchasingjoe3310 26 күн бұрын
​@@stuntmanmike37 I mean other than the fact that the M1 Garands gas cylinder is only a couple inches long, and is on the bottom of the barrel instead of the top, sure.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 25 күн бұрын
Imagine if Valve had written Half-Life as a Second World War game. This rifle would have had an alternate fire mode that shoots from both barrels at the same time.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 Ай бұрын
Gonna show this to my 104 Year old Grandfather who was given a STG44 in Autumn of 1944. He speaks fluent English and after WW2 was hired by the US Military to give Lectures in the US on his Experience against Soviet Partisans and Soviet Soldiers He's still amazed by the Fact that there are Americans like Ian who are this much into "anything German" as he says haha I told him a lot of Americans are into German Cars, Weapons and other Devices. But for some Reason he is skeptical of that Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@williamsovich8314
@williamsovich8314 Ай бұрын
I for one would love to hear his response/thoughts. Would be fun to see a video or even audio only response video of it. Plus his stories from every side of the war are disappearing daily from the few still around from back then.
@tominva4121
@tominva4121 Ай бұрын
I also would be thrilled to see a video of his response.
@localextremist2839
@localextremist2839 Ай бұрын
What did he say?
@HE-162
@HE-162 25 күн бұрын
By chance was he in the battle of Berlin, or part of the 12.Armee/9.Armee?
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 20 күн бұрын
Whaaaaaat arrrre youuuu doing in berchestgarten?????
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 Ай бұрын
In all these videos that Ian has been done at Morphy's, the OCD part of me is always irritatingly distracted by that M60 in the rack, and wishing he would turn around and push that left bipod leg into the fully retracted position to match the other one.
@jaggedcashew
@jaggedcashew Ай бұрын
Now I won't unsee that!
@gunman11
@gunman11 Ай бұрын
😅
@highlandoutsider
@highlandoutsider Ай бұрын
Oh great, thanks for sharing 😐 never noticed that, so glad you pointed it out, good job 😒👍😭
@Mygg_Jeager
@Mygg_Jeager Ай бұрын
SAME LMAO
@Dante_S550_Turbo
@Dante_S550_Turbo Ай бұрын
oh i hate you, now i can't unsee that
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 Ай бұрын
wood for stock?: absolutely! wood for pistol grip?: no problem! wood for handguard?: absolutely not, are you crazy?!
@bagen3268
@bagen3268 Ай бұрын
Or even slap some bakelite on it? Neverrrrr
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical Ай бұрын
Only knew about this gun from Red Orchestra 2. It was only added so that it would be historically accurate/possible to use a gun like this in maps set in battles that took place before 1944. I appreciated the historical detail to avoid anachronism The gas block being further up the barrel honestly makes it look cooler than the actual STG44
@utarefson9
@utarefson9 Ай бұрын
I still remember RO1 veterans making fun of the developers for including this. For good reason.
@WOLFkraut
@WOLFkraut Ай бұрын
@@utarefson9 The Darkest Hour mod for RO1 (still being developed) has the MkB42(H) now, but even still, was very intentionally not added to Stalingrad maps. It's more of a very rare easter egg weapon. Including it in RO2 and making it an "unlockable" item there was a terrible decision.
@mr.stotruppen8724
@mr.stotruppen8724 Ай бұрын
RO2 had a lot of good design decisions but weapon progression was definitely not one of them
@OGPatriot03
@OGPatriot03 10 күн бұрын
Something I'll always appreciate about Ian is that he always puts the link in the description when he says he will. Seems like most youtubers completely neglect to give us even that much respect..
@tiortedrootsky
@tiortedrootsky 5 күн бұрын
I think i was duped by Ian at least one time.
@ericmitchell985
@ericmitchell985 Ай бұрын
I know it's utterly pointless, but the faux gas tube running all the way to the muzzle looks so much cooler than the STG44's freestanding front sight.
@kerrybullock4554
@kerrybullock4554 21 күн бұрын
That’s a beautiful looking weapon
@n990
@n990 Ай бұрын
Handled one in the vault at Aberdeen PG with J. Ellis and under the watchful eye of Dr. Atwater… in 98? Did some light table photos of it and some others. Good times.
@carlosspicyweiner7865
@carlosspicyweiner7865 Ай бұрын
Going to APG was on of my favorite trips as a boy. Guns and tanks: What more could an 8 year old want?! 😊
@bulukacarlos4751
@bulukacarlos4751 Ай бұрын
1938!!!! I didn´t know. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 Ай бұрын
just imagine if the machine would have backed this 100%? from the start. the money wasted on rockets, rail guns, jets? would never equal the potential of this system to cost, impact rato.
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 Ай бұрын
🌍🌎🌏🏆🪖
@lizzardwizard2000
@lizzardwizard2000 Ай бұрын
The history is amazing. I had no idea this was in development in the 30’s. Just like the Lockheed P-38 Lightning, except the P-38 was used effectively in WWII.
@justanothergunnerd8128
@justanothergunnerd8128 Ай бұрын
The StG44 was used effectively too, albeit in small numbers. Check out Hans Dieter Handrich's book - it is utterly amazing.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Ай бұрын
The P-38 was plagued with very serious problems.. I live near a P-38 training base and the surrounding hills are littered with P-38 crash sites... one even crashed into the local Woolworth's store.
@lizzardwizard2000
@lizzardwizard2000 Ай бұрын
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke what did the greatest fighter ace in America fly?
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 Ай бұрын
​@@lizzardwizard2000effective for its range, I wouldn't call it a standout. Didn't fair all the well in Europe. Many aircraft performed well in specific theaters. Personally not afraid of the p38 in il2, poor agility at speed and energy retention, super easy to ID from a distance which is a massive disadvantage, id take a mustang or a p47 over the 38 in Europe any day
@ndenise3460
@ndenise3460 27 күн бұрын
Never play.to your opponents strength. Did I Hong zoom and boomed, dive out of the sun, unit one of two and use kinetic energy to climb out of reach, and then set up for another attack.
@brandonking9780
@brandonking9780 29 күн бұрын
I love the STG but I’ve always had a thing for the Mkb42H, it’s just so cool
@trycoldman2358
@trycoldman2358 29 күн бұрын
Bridges of Druzhina be hitting different with MkB42
@mrchambers31
@mrchambers31 Ай бұрын
Ian, when will you do a video on the Ag m/42? The WW2 semi auto nobody talks about
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons Ай бұрын
Not sure when they will post, but I have one filmed on the 42 and one of the 42B, plus a couple of experimental 7.62mm versions.
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 Ай бұрын
​@@ForgottenWeapons oh what's that gun ?
@anter176
@anter176 Ай бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons New video on the Ag m/42? awesome!
@sootmann
@sootmann Ай бұрын
Great video, as always. I really appreciate how good your subtitles are.
@michaelguerin56
@michaelguerin56 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for a nice informative video. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 Ай бұрын
Fascinating. I love the real history and development of the forgotten ones.
@simplyminded3529
@simplyminded3529 Ай бұрын
Enlisted peaked my interested in guns like these. The models that led to their final design. Cool stuff.
@VaterOrlaag
@VaterOrlaag Ай бұрын
Blurry Germany sure had some cool guns.
@chromastrophe
@chromastrophe Ай бұрын
and uniforms
@davidh5903
@davidh5903 Ай бұрын
Ah, but who can remember
@Moondog66602
@Moondog66602 Ай бұрын
And literally nothing else.
@Morbacounet
@Morbacounet Ай бұрын
@@VaterOrlaag Mustache guy had terrible taste in guns.
@OberGefreiterZ
@OberGefreiterZ Ай бұрын
@@chromastrophe please dont think german uniforms were designed by hugo boss, at that time they were just a little company and one of many manufacturers of the uniforms, but NOT the designer
@motorosso3349
@motorosso3349 Ай бұрын
Thanks for an informative and fun video on the SG history.
25 күн бұрын
Very interesting Weapon. Thank you for the Video
@8.6GivenAdqVacSysm
@8.6GivenAdqVacSysm 25 күн бұрын
Open-bolt also greatly increases natural cooling of the barrel between burst of fire, as air can flow through the barrel and open bolt. Which helps keep down the temperature of the barrel in normal operation. This doesn’t, of course, do anything for continuous sustained firing
@panzer5698
@panzer5698 27 күн бұрын
I live in Poland and this weapon is the most seen in all musem across in Poland, where in Poland we have a huge amount of German weapons more than German museum, is crazy
@prdubi
@prdubi Ай бұрын
I had the pleasure and privilege of firing one from a private collector while in Arizona. It was interesting, but he only had some sort of customized ammo for it made by a company. It was having feeding issues while firing it. My feeling is that his ammo was weak due to being exposed to the environment. Ammo was stored in an outside barn like building. His magazines felt weak also. His was amnesty registered. I helped him get brand new PPU ammo for it and you are very correct about the handguards. IT. GOT.HOT. very quickly. Gorgeous looking gun. Gotta give the Germans style points for that. Thanks for the video.
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Ай бұрын
With such a good explanation has to come a side by side comparison with the final model. Even better, with the early AK as well. That would be a very very interesting g video! Thank you.
@sthrich635
@sthrich635 Ай бұрын
It was a StG44 that was the best firearm for the German infantrymen, without ammo it was nothing more than scrap metal. Which is why the 8mm Kurz made, and in a way, broke the German Sturmgewehr. The new rounds was the heart of the weapon, yet obviously the Germans had zero reserve of such, unlike 8mm Mauser Rifle or 9mm which was produced since WW1 and had ample reserve. Providing a completely new round for frontline infantry use was an enormous industrial task - Italy and Japan both tried to replace their rifle rounds with more powerful calibers, only to discover the difficulties in replacing sheer amount of rounds they stockpile for decades in just a few years, and when the war started they were stuck midway, complicating logistics with two different rifle rounds and Italy tried to went back years worth of effort and issuing back older rifles. The German leadership clearly realized such problems and Hitler put a lower priority on the rifle program since the new ammo production and reserve were far from ready in 1942, especially existing industries had to supply massive amount of 8mm Mauser for MG (the Kar98k (which StG44 would replace) was seen as support weapon for MG42/34 and only use small share of 8mm Mauser) and could not be spared. Adopting the StG44 early on was simply not an option for German armies and industries at that time. Producing tens of thousands StG in 1943 that would only receive sufficient rounds in 1944 would be counter-productive and waste of valuable German industrial effort that could be spent on existing weapons that could be used immediately. As such German leadership allowed the 8mm Kurz production and logistics to gradually set up while in the meantime blocked the program on the army distribution level simply because the logistics were not ready yet. A popular myth that Hitler completely disregarded and halted the entire StG concept doesn't add up when one consider when the German leader first halted the program (before allegedly officers tried to "hide" it), the Mkb42, it was essentially 80% finalized product, with the MP43 next year being a more-or-less finalized, (aka it already finished development by then). Had he actually halted the program then Mkb42 wouldn't even existed in the first place.
@nospoon4799
@nospoon4799 Ай бұрын
😃
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 Ай бұрын
But some machines producing 8x57 IS could be used for 8x33, much measurements had been the same.
@sthrich635
@sthrich635 Ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 Except the 8x57 was German military's main rounds already, with high wartime demands, especially when considering the ammo consumption from German general purposes MG34/42. Just like how Germany kept using Panzer IV in 1945 despite having Panther already, or MG34 still in use by infantry despite MG42s, the strained German war industries meant little of existing 8x57 production could be handed over to speed up Kurz ammo production, and hence the need for German high command to suspend the Sturmgewehr rifle deployment to avoid the wasteful mis-match of rifle and ammo quantities.
@DruidTimer
@DruidTimer Ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 they could have developed an entirely new cartridge, as the bullet is not the same bullet used in the standard 7.92x57 cartridge. They probably intended to use that bullet, but were stuck on the bullet diameter. Side note: Also, another historian (read this many years ago) noted that one of Hitler's real objections was the rifle being issued in too low quantities to make a difference on the battlefield, while also complicating logistics.
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 Ай бұрын
I had read that the Army was plagued by ammunition shortages until the end of the war.
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl Ай бұрын
the sturmgewehr(all years) has got to be my favorite battle rifle of the second world war.
@mnkyman478
@mnkyman478 29 күн бұрын
We all appreciate your work, keep it up sir.
@Coldominator
@Coldominator 28 күн бұрын
red orchestra 2, hate being on the receiving end of this gun but love to be the one using it, glad people are still remembering that game to this day
@EventHorizon1776
@EventHorizon1776 Ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful firearm.
@grahambrown1980
@grahambrown1980 Ай бұрын
I have less blood in my brain right now!😅
@pollyskirt1
@pollyskirt1 Ай бұрын
Cool vid Ian ,they are such a steampunk kinda design,We all want one .
@Roperfield
@Roperfield Ай бұрын
I remember fighting like hell with this within the derelict apartment buildings of RO2. Good times
@utarefson9
@utarefson9 Ай бұрын
Man, RO2 was such a dissapointment. Red Orchestra 1 as well as its mods still remain an all time favourite though.
@Mau4ever2
@Mau4ever2 Ай бұрын
"We had to restrict the use of MP44 & FG42 in Call of Duty for some players way back in the days" Cause: To Overpowered in the Hands of the "fast guys" on Pavlov's House - 2 German took Stalingrad with a FG42 & a MP44 against a full russian team
@localbod
@localbod Ай бұрын
​@@Mau4ever2*too overpowered*
@stevejohnson6593
@stevejohnson6593 Ай бұрын
You can still play today, at least in the evenings there'll be action in the EU... in game
@Mygg_Jeager
@Mygg_Jeager Ай бұрын
YES! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 29 күн бұрын
Why Hitler "disliked" the Sturmgewehr. (Or rather the new cartridge): Up until pretty late in the war the Wehrmacht didn't view itself as part of an economic system. They were soldiers after all, not bean counters. Hitler had a skewed (because of his racial ideas), but often better understanding of the economic and logistical situation he had maneuvered his Reich into than the Wehrmacht. This is still often overlooked. Imagine this: Spring 1942. The Wehrmacht is mostly infantry. The entire _idea_ of infantry in the Wehrmacht is centered around the 10 man squad with K98, which itself is centered around the MG. Both weapons use the same cartridge. In the dire winter of 1941/42 there was precious little ammo in the east. Rifle Soldiers had strict orders to only take out a single bullet from the belt of their squad machine gun belt _if_ a valuable target presented itself. With this tactic the Wehrmacht had been barely able to hold it together. Logistics were stretched to the max. But it worked out. Now some weapon manufactures invite you to a demonstration of a gun with a totally now cartridge. Absolutely no commonality to any other weapon in the arsenal. The very idea of the current 10 men MG squad falls apart. The one saving grace for the Wehrmacht in the east would vanish. You would think those people were pulling a joke on you.
@Goc4ever
@Goc4ever Ай бұрын
The MKb42(H) is a fantastic gun to look at, it would make a fantastic museum piece. Even though it was rather short-lived there's no shadow of doubt it along with the MKb42(W) and the STG44 had a considerable impact in the history of firearms especially when the one of the STG44s was seized by Mikhail Kalashnikov who went on to develop the AK-47 and all of its subsequent variant and copies. There's no doubt that some of the weapons developed by the nazis led to multiple breakthroughs in the field of research and development of multiple civilian and military projects like the jet propulsion and many, many, many others.
@cameronhermann9400
@cameronhermann9400 29 күн бұрын
Amazing video, and I watched it at an ironic time. I just finished an essay on Operation Barbarossa and hearing the mention of the war in the East made me smirk with irony that I understood in depth what the designers were hopping for in sending it East.
@WillnichtRein
@WillnichtRein Ай бұрын
That's one neat looking gun
@diego.rivero
@diego.rivero Ай бұрын
Having one of these in Red Orchestra 2 made you unstoppable
@DawidKov
@DawidKov Ай бұрын
I think the whole "Hitler didn't like it" thing may be a bit of an attempt by the designers and/or army brass to blame Hitler in order to avoid admitting their own shortsightedness. Similar to how the Barbarossa generals blame Hitler for wanting to take Moscow, when it was their own ego-driven idea, one Hitler was initially against. Because really, when you think about the situation Germany was in during 1942, you'll see that the last thing they needed was to adopt a new rifle and_ more importantly, a new cartridge. What they needed was more guns, not more expensive guns. It's similar to how the Soviets kept making the three-line rifles rather than produce the SVTs, despite understanding the advantages of a self-loading design (pre-war, they planned to fully rearm with SVTs). If anything, we're lucky that the German designers and army brass weren't clever enough to understand these logistical concerns, and never applied them to stuff like tanks.
@phaeronseherekh1754
@phaeronseherekh1754 26 күн бұрын
If I recall right they would variously understand that same notion with tanks, which would lead to various programs to simplify or unify the various production lines and models, I think they even did it for hauling vehicles too. It's just that their procurement/economic system was not particularly well built for it to begin with and adapting it mid war would have crippled their production in the short term enough for it to be just as undesirable.
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 Ай бұрын
KZbin: is that a 20 round mag? --o IAN: this thing is a very long magazine.
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 Ай бұрын
30.
@ComiCBoY000
@ComiCBoY000 Ай бұрын
Loved this since I first saw it in Red Orchestra 2
@gregoryschmitz2131
@gregoryschmitz2131 29 күн бұрын
Well done for the early development I had not seen anything on looking specifically at open vs closed bolt.
@jeffstevens156
@jeffstevens156 Ай бұрын
Thank You as always, Ian.
@kuukeli
@kuukeli 17 күн бұрын
great video once again
@gunman11
@gunman11 Ай бұрын
Damn interesting Ian. One more example of working out the bugs .
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR Ай бұрын
*You may not like it but this is what PEAK assault rifle looks like.*
@grahambrown1980
@grahambrown1980 Ай бұрын
It’s getting me bricked up! 😁
@Benji_4
@Benji_4 Ай бұрын
Apparently the only guy who doesn't like this is Hitler.
@wallacemoore2398
@wallacemoore2398 27 күн бұрын
I personally think this is one of the greatest looking rifles.
@f3uibeghardt522
@f3uibeghardt522 29 күн бұрын
1:02 You say the Nazis wanted to use a gas trap?
@colonthree
@colonthree Ай бұрын
This is a Sturmgewehr. It sturms and gewehrs.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 Ай бұрын
What does Gewehr mean? In Military context a Gewehr is a fullsize rifle, in contrast to Karabiner. In Civilian context, every long gun is a Gewehr, so an umbrella term only. But why is bayonnet in german either Bajonett or Seitengewehr, a bladed weapon called Gewehr? Well Ge- means a lot of - ( for example Gewässer/ a lot of water, Gesang/ a lot of singing, Geschrei/ a lot of shouting) and Wehr means weapon ( for example large Bauernwehr knife arround 1500). Sich wehren means to defend yourself. So Gewehr: A lot of defence, in older documents a Gewehr can be both a firearm or bladed weapon.
@RennmausG0ttes
@RennmausG0ttes Ай бұрын
​​@@brittakriep2938thanks, that was interesting and reminds me of when I tried to learn German.
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Ай бұрын
@brittakriep2938: ‘Wehr’ is coming from ‘defending’. ‘Wie wehren uns gegen die Russen‘ = ‘How do we defend ourself against the Russians?’. It’s a verb. Thus ‘Wehrmacht’ means ‘Force to defend’ aka ‘Defense force’.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 Ай бұрын
@@theblackhand6485 : When you read ,die Wehr' ( das Wehr is something quite different) , mit blanker Wehr', ,die Seitenwehr' ( sidearm, can be pistol or sword) in older texts, then it means a mostly bladed weapon. In case of Wehrmacht, Reichswehr, Bundeswehr or Feuerwehr ( fire brigade) it means a trained unit, which defends against enemies or fire. Btw., i am german.
@ElitePraetorianGuard
@ElitePraetorianGuard Ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 This is a reference to an old meme, "Zis is a flammenwerfer, it werfs flammen." kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3eTnIyKiqtgn7c It is a silly meme that makes no sense to German speakers, but sounds funny to non-German speakers because of the way that German is constructed especially in the way that German weapon systems were named in WW2. Like Panzerkampfwagen literally translating to armored-battle-vehicle, but in English we would just call it a tank. 😆
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson Ай бұрын
Cool gun, one of my buddies had the successor with a closed bolt system that he found on the local reservation and purchased, he had a hard time finding a good load to make the gun run successfully, he ended up with a duel powder load using a bit of Bullseye to touch off some rifle powder in a compressed load using cases he made using some forming dies. It was complicated so he didn't have a lot of ammo for it. We did take it out in his cow pasture though and make some cow pies bounce with her. She we a good machine rifle; fun to shoot and if the ATF had seen us we would probably still be in jail. Sadly it was destroyed when his mobile home caught fire, that is a bad thing about trying to be off the grid, when you catch fire the local fire department has no idea how to find you, they did find it but much to late to save any of his extensive firearm collection hidden in a false wall in his trailer house. He is no longer into guns and runs a small black smith outfit in a little town in a remote part of the USA.
@joepuente666
@joepuente666 29 күн бұрын
Awesome love the video, thank you 🎉
@Slakrrrrrr
@Slakrrrrrr Ай бұрын
Wonderful video, Ian! I've seen pictures on a Mauser rifle (in addition to mention of trials in January 1942) that was also a part of the MkB program. I believe the original fired a 7x39.1mm DWM round, has a lot of mechanical and visual similarities to the Gewehr 35 and Gewehr 41. I'd love to see a video on it one day, I know Jean Huon took the photos of it!
@ManuR-l4m
@ManuR-l4m 26 күн бұрын
One thing is for sure. This one looks so much cooler than the Walther version.
@spondulixtanstaafl7887
@spondulixtanstaafl7887 Ай бұрын
Thanks, very interesting, never knew it started life as an open bolt.
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 29 күн бұрын
Your pronunciations of German words has improved radically since you first began this channel.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw Ай бұрын
Thanks Ian. .
@illletyouknowin20businessd34
@illletyouknowin20businessd34 Күн бұрын
This Gun is in Killing floor 2 (2017) and it’s a lot of fun!!! A punchy early round assault rifle, that is dual wielded by one of the bosses who is basically a German scientist from WW2.
@JackMaus
@JackMaus Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video
@_porkadobo
@_porkadobo 28 күн бұрын
Great video!
@MaxUKR
@MaxUKR Ай бұрын
Great video as always ❤🎉
@Getpojke
@Getpojke Ай бұрын
Always wonder what troops on the wrong side of the muzzle thought when they first saw their enemy armed with what was essentially a pretty "sci-fi" looking weapon. Yes they may have had sub-machine guns, but this thing had rate of fire, range & punching power. Must've been pretty demoralising to see a whole bunch of enemy armed with them for the first time.
@adlerarmory8382
@adlerarmory8382 Ай бұрын
@Getpojke The Rooski PPS-43 was already fielded by then. At distance it would look like a wood stocked PP3. At close enough range to tell the difference, it wouldn't matter if it's 7.62x25 or 7.92x33, dead is dead.
@smoogy2164
@smoogy2164 Ай бұрын
If you read The Devil's Brigade there is mention of entire squads in the First Special Service Force being equipped with Johnson light machine guns and the result there was "pretty damn demoralizing" at a minimum
@GimpyChinaman
@GimpyChinaman Ай бұрын
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that maybe Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearme and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK (which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history) could use some emotional support from that rifle?
@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries
@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Ай бұрын
Well, I'm seeing a lot fewer cursed guns lately :(
@stelianghile822
@stelianghile822 26 күн бұрын
Very interesting video!
@АлексейФролов-в4ь
@АлексейФролов-в4ь Ай бұрын
Держал я такой в руках...за номером 5.
@joshb8233
@joshb8233 28 күн бұрын
this is my favourite version of the weapon. it sucks australia has the worst gun laws. I love the long stroke piston cover it just looks real mean looking
@kinobi911
@kinobi911 Ай бұрын
Very nice explained, some parts are so simple like the triggergroup (the G-3 is a tiny bit complex). The holes for the charging handle are likely the first thing with mud in it and the soldier cant clean it fast and propper.
@jesuschrist711
@jesuschrist711 Ай бұрын
I originally heard "It's in .38" and not "it's in '38" and got really confused while staring at the magazine
@donnerschwein
@donnerschwein Ай бұрын
Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas are Gun Jesus videos in 4K
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons Ай бұрын
I post all my videos in 4K on the History of Weapons & War app, which is linked in the description.
@kawaiiarchive357
@kawaiiarchive357 Ай бұрын
Looks cool and intimidating with a bayonet.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 Ай бұрын
So, from...Japan? 😛
@NeilMacMillan-fb3hd
@NeilMacMillan-fb3hd Ай бұрын
enjoy your videos well informed an done my compliments
@squidious1662
@squidious1662 Ай бұрын
Very interesting Ian.
@jayrivers773
@jayrivers773 Ай бұрын
Just in time for the holidays, unlike a rescue breakthrough
@СрулесарСрулесарович
@СрулесарСрулесарович 28 күн бұрын
The first application of MKb42 took place on the Eastern Front of WW2. Soviets analysed the captured samples and decided that they want something like this, but more ergonomic, reliable and GI-proof.
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 Ай бұрын
From a "looks" perspective it still my favorite variant of the Sturmgewehr family.
@ssyn6626
@ssyn6626 29 күн бұрын
Ok I like it way better than the stg, the bayonet nearly had me but greand laucher too, I am sold. Plus it looks a bit better just make it closed bolt and maybe do something about the hand gaurd....
@MohJam
@MohJam 29 күн бұрын
Love to see a side by side comparison to an STG - 44, just to see the differences. I'll have to g look :)
@929Finn
@929Finn Ай бұрын
Oh hey the bane of every RO2 player (other than the MG 42 and PPSh).
@fredboat
@fredboat Ай бұрын
Thanks, Enjoyed the video, Kraut magic.
@talex7473
@talex7473 Ай бұрын
An exceedingly rare firearm. Hopefully they’ll let you shoot it Ian!
@craigjewel4539
@craigjewel4539 Ай бұрын
At the end of the video you can see the holes and openings in the gun that allow you to see through it. I can see how it would get heavily fouled when in combat.
@minisforerbody
@minisforerbody Ай бұрын
Do you think in theory you could adjust the gas on the piston by threading it in/out of the bolt carrier? Obviously you could only do 360 degree rotations. But if they’re fairly overgassed it might work?
@fjallaxd7355
@fjallaxd7355 Ай бұрын
Great video.
@chillypepperjr
@chillypepperjr Ай бұрын
Does the gas piston/linear hammer(?) not go forward and put the bolt into the same position it would be in while it's locked up? I don't see what's holding it back away from the bolt counteracting the recoil spring force
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 26 күн бұрын
I got to handle an original StG44, and I was surprised at how heavy it was.
@jankusthegreat9233
@jankusthegreat9233 Ай бұрын
The front end looks so good
@Pixy335
@Pixy335 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing this thing in a CQB training scene of Jin Roh. I was wondering what’s that weird StG thing, until I looked it up on IMFDB.
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