DSEI 2021 day 4: MBDA missiles, TKMS XLUUV, MSI Defence Seahawk, IAI Sea Serpent anti-ship missile

[@turkeyisnotineurope8123]

MBDA is probably one of the most successful European military and civilian partnership that works well.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

When you compare what they can get done for a fraction of the budget spent over in America, it's pretty amazing stuff.

[@baremetalmafia]

Could that guy word salad any better about sea serpent?? That was top level “talk for 5 mins and say nothin”

[@Max-lf3tx]

He'll fit right in at the MOD, I've never heard people talk about so much but deliver so little.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

FCAS W... Because we need a 3rd FCAS acronym to make things more confusing. It would be interesting to know what they class as a "smart" missile.

[@MardukTheSunGodInsideMe]

Where's Lockheed Martin with the Sea Dragon?

[@fisophia1734]

I like spear 3 then exocet, she look more elegant.😊👍🥰 Aster also look beautiful

[@AB-gi3qy]

Sea Serpent certainly looks like a strong contender for the RN's I-SSGW requirement. Hopefully a decision is made soon.

[@AB-gi3qy]

@Varangian Guard I think all the options look pretty good and at this point any of them would be a big upgrade over the current harpoon. The NSM does have a much shorter range and warhead than the some of the other choices so it'll be interesting to see what the RN go for.

[@AB-gi3qy]

@Varangian Guard That is true but I can't see the MOD fitting it to any other platforms than the Frigates. So one question I do have is if the missiles are sea skimming and fly very low level, is there actually any benefit to having stealth?

[@WWeronko]

As far as I know the SPEAR 3 (1:41) is still in development and will not be operational until 2025.

[@davidhouseman4328]

Not sure how far through development it is but it's definitely not integrated on the F35 yet.

[@dogsnads5634]

@@davidhouseman4328 Drop tests on Typhoon so far, no powered firings yet.

[@jackseaward2330]

F-35 shouldnt be getting it until Block IV in 2027...

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

so you don't know the name of the new MBDA concept land attack cruise missile . . . that's why your saying future hypersonic missile solution and stealth & smart subsonic missile . . .

[@yamoto1833]

Yea

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

Is the hypersonic version discontinued?

[@elnesti1890]

Why you don't speak more for that mbda hypersonic one cause none of the eu countries have one so pls more about that man

[@jccalvente]

I think they are still under development

[@turkeyisnotineurope8123]

France started their tests this year, but it doesn't look at this model. V-Max Missile built by ArianeGroup

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Interesting though that the "Sea Ceptor" (which I thought was just a Royal Navy term) is displayed in a quad-packed configuration from what looks to be a representation of a mk 41 VLS cell. I wonder if this is a reference to how the missiles will be carried on Royal Navy ships...

[@davidhouseman4328]

More likely representative of it being a sales event so showing different possibilities. 26 and 31 plans are to have them in there own cells.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@davidhouseman4328 I was mostly thinking about the Type 45s but I've been trying to find official confirmation that that's the case for some time, but the best I've found are renders & the only one of those that depict individual cells is for the T31 & that only has 12 cells, not the 24 its meant to have.

[@keithdouglas7154]

Is this open to the public??

[@possiblyadickhead6653]

I think yes on some days some or all areas are open to the public. I guess if you visit their web page you will know more tho.

[@mrpusser0348]

No

[@loyalist5736]

@@possiblyadickhead6653 NO

[@kingdomkhmer9862]

KingDom Khmer👍yes😍🙏

[@IMAN7THRYLOS]

If I am building a frigate, I want 8 anti ship missiles and I have to pick amongthe Sea Serpent, NSM and the Exocet MM40 Block IIIc, which one should I pick and why?

[@loyalist5736]

Not exocet as it can't attack land targets.

[@IMAN7THRYLOS]

@@loyalist5736 I thought that the latest versions of the Exocet can hit land targets. Regardless, I am building a frigate, not a destroyer. For land attack, the Vulcano is good enough. My focus is on an antiship missile. Which one of these above would be the best choice for ASuW and why?

[@loyalist5736]

@@IMAN7THRYLOS Thats new to me it hitting land targets, which one would I pick and why ...I'd pick none of the above I would go for LRASM and I'd pick this system because it can out reach other systems on the market and it is a very smart missile.

[@DavidOlver]

Build back better lol

[@ahmednurali4156]

The peoples have worked real hard to result a 😓😰😥 😓😰😥💧💦 a technology advanced sweat results just a human rights all of these was because of the freedom existences 😥😔😟🙁

[@samburdge9948]

Sorry to hear about you all losing the Aussie sub.....but seriously it was an absolute horrible deal.....you should move away from the child raping pope who launders narco drug money and allow protestant descendants who moved out of France during the wars of religion to regain citizenship......after you do that hopefully USA and France become best friends