Navigating Awkward Stack Sizes in Multi Straddled Pots

[@montezuma6962]

99 is no good, what are you doing? As he hits the river....Classic 🤣

[@tehblogger]

can't we just jam this pre. Or jam on the flop. This seems very straightforward.

[@Stockhandle123]

You cannot jam this preflop that's just torching. You can over bat jam on this flop sometimes for sure.

[@WesBundy82]

Its a Super easy fold on the turn.. Very limited to think about given the board and the heros holdings...

[@jgod9788]

feel like if hero’s going to commit the stacks regardless of the turn card, he should bet big on flop or even overpot jam to deny equity from overcards

[@NealBurkard-ut1oo]

I think I'd bet larger on the flop since any 2 over cards are going to float

[@ThePatriots010304]

But how much though? 200-250 is calling and if you're betting more than 300 you might as well just shove. Seems like villain is a maniac and I don't think he's folding to any bet on the flop other than a shove. I would have check shoved the flop or check fold based on his bet size if he does bet.

[@TheNow_Now]

With them being this short, any two cards definitely shouldn't float, just torching money in the long run

[@pot_kivach160]

depending on the opponent. Some sticky players would called even with a second/third pair. They just do not fold if they have more than 10% equity!! Beside, how do you know you're not against nuts??? You're ramming into the Rockwall with all your soft and fragile horns!!

[@Stockhandle123]

@@ThePatriots010304 personally I like jamming this flop.

[@eli4poker424]

Bart, are you no longer working with HCL?

[@Unhingedanduninformed]

Dude, it’s crazy that this dude is talking about how nines are no good when he takes that sizing with just open ended straight draw and then gets lucky on the river

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

he floated flop hoping to steal on the turn, then of course he's not folding for 300 more. also, he said that after the river

[@footteatimeofficial7832]

Fantastic hand evaluation

[@hansari8697]

People just blind cbet 1/3 these days bc they saw it in some video. On a board like this one where all your over cards brick and you aren't cbetting range, typically more of a polar range you want to size up. You are basically saying I have an over pair or air for the most part. 1/3 probably generates almost zero folds from IP. They probably only fold A4dd or like 4h4d. I think QJhh, 66, Ac4c all continue and force you to play a bloated pot oop vs that small size. Want to bet atleast half pot on this board and less often imo. 9s9 is a fine check call imo.

[@Stockhandle123]

You should be cbetting range on this board in a 4 bet pot. The solver is going to like the small bet but personally i think im just going to over bet jam here.

[@hansari8697]

@@Stockhandle123 Yea you cbet range on most boards in 4bet pots but this was a 3b pot quite a bit different. If you over bet jam this hand you are folding out all the hands you have good equity against and when you get called you are gonna be dead or flipping at best.

[@Stockhandle123]

@@hansari8697 it's 4 bet the $20 was a blind raise making the opening a raise a 3 bet. Its ok to fold put what you're beating with a shove because there is already so much in the pot and 99 needs a shot ton of protection.

[@qsdailydose8970]

Fist off I would not have 3-bet But in this scenario I would have check called flop and check fold turn to a decent sizing the Qh is a horrible card for hero.

[@gabrielrockman]

The big question here is whether or not the villain turns hands like 8-7 and 6-5 into a bluff, or if all of his bluffs are no pair hands with two overs + a straight draw. You have a lot more equity against 8-7 than you do against A-J. If he's checking back hands like 8-7 and 6-5, then all of his bluffs have excellent equity.

[@sog1272]

When you have low pairs maybe from 10s with this type of preflop action, you have to put villan on high cards and either jam or check fold after this kind of flop and live with results.

[@charliesandson2081]

What I don’t get here is if we’re going to check-jam a bad turn card anyway, why not just jam turn and have our fold equity

[@benjamintaylor8665]

easy fold. either keep bluffing or let it go. very easy

[@pokersensei1245]

3bet bigger preflop to like $320, then you can just open-jam that flop because it’s close to a pot-size bet. Not standard in a $2/5 game, but the double straddle makes this very shallow effectively.

[@pot_kivach160]

6:30 I'm folding here ($400 turn bet by HJ). b/c that is the best solution on the long run. For this particular hand, not really sure if that is right or wrong (how can I know whether he has KJ or QK/QT/TJ/AT...any hand that beats pocket 99). If I do the same (fold) in all similar situations, I'd be making money on the long run. That's how poker game works.

[@32266ms]

Because he didn't 3! pf, I think overs are highly weighted. JJ and TT are possible. Betting $400 OTF should get him to fold overs. As played OTT, I think folding is fine.

[@JayPaulson-hg2mc]

Preflop raise to 330 would have made this much easier to play. As then caller makes pot equal to stack size.

[@rickwelch8464]

bet 225 on flop. Hand over. Move on.

[@checkmugged]

You can tell Bart wants to play the hand the way he wants to play the hand and uses faulty logic and circular talking to get to his desired action here.

[@superfreeeeeak]

my thoughts about this hand: first of all - the villain SHOULD be holding strong hands - don´t forget this is live poker :) - secondly -i really don´t like the flop size, which is even lower than the preflop raise. Now if he is not so strong, an was just gambling, because it was siuted etc... - which holdings WILL he fold to that bet on the flop? i guess - NONE, it´s an easy float, first of all because of backdoor possiblity of overcard value, second - because the size looked weak. I guess a villain with a certain basic aggression level will, call flop with any two, and BET turn - after checked to, with any two. Do you agree? Additionally he can make a 400 Dollar bet which works - as if he risks 690.

[@superfreeeeeak]

might be still a fold, because of equities on this board

[@rayoconnor4413]

Just reading these comments and it strikes me that a lot of people would rather make a sub-optimal play rather than make an optimal play that could potentially lead to future difficult decisions.

[@scottyrabbit]

Most people are pretty bad at poker lol

[@TheMightyDoon]

I respect Bart for the professional he is, but this is nuts. This hand as played isn't supposed to be theorized. Sometimes stacks dictate play and this is a good example. Hero's flop bet leaves him less than pot, which is fine when you have AA but makes no sense when you have 99. Huge difference. Pot is 650 and hero has 850 behind. Just shove. If you're beat so be it. Hero checks turn and Barts offering draws Villain might have with his bet. What? Hero has less than pot and villains gonna bet a draw? IDK maybe it's me cause Hero built a pot with a marginal 99, got a favorable pot and then offers villain a chance to draw a cheap turn.

[@seslocrit9365]

I'd love to play 4-bet pots with you.

[@bryan-still-a-poker-player]

​@@seslocrit9365lol facts

[@fredrick2390]

Shove turn with third pair? You're a fish.

[@TheMightyDoon]

@@fredrick2390 I never said shove turn, I would've shoved flop, but as the old saying goes, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

[@fredrick2390]

Difficult to understand what street you're talking about when you got the pot size wrong and your writing is unclear. If you meant you wanted to shove the flop, you are still a fish.

[@ryanyuan9183]

not a good hand to 3b pre flop at this stake size - only 50bbs what are you expecting

[@newstandardaccount]

I like the caller's play and thought process. I think he has enough equity to call though I didn't run the numbers. There are so many straight draws on this board that I suspect a lot of players will have too many bluffs. Additionally Bart didn't discuss it too much but there were the spade draws to consider as well. Hero 3-bet pre in a spot where a lot of players are going to 3-bet or fold, so villain will have a lot of hands heading to the flop. The small flop sizing means most of villain's range continues to the turn. KJ was one of the primary bluffs we considered - hero had probably twice as much equity as villain but got unlucky on the river.

[@Jermo484]

Why do you HAVE to put the extra money in on the turn? On very rare occasions he's just checking back a 10 on the river and you save yourself $300.

[@theofilosgougoulas8549]

terrible play from both sides and first of all the 3b from 99 oop...99 dont play well in a board with low spr...vilain could have pocket AA all day long there

[@Rich_Newell_]

Caller is delusional

[@TheIambogart]

Idk im not a fan of the action post flop smh with that stack to pot ratio on the flop, I just would have jammed flop smh what is betting 1/4 pot gonna get too fold talking about ya hand need protection? Smh the more protection ya hand needs the bigger the bet sizing needs to be smh if I'm villian I'm not folding KJ to a 1/4 flop bet either smh hero played hand to passive on the flop smh