Navigating the ex-Scientology community: Trust your gut.

[@AuditGoldenEra]

As a Swedish person, in our language, the word gut, translated is God. So when a English speaking person says, "It was a 'gut' feeling" or "listen to your 'gut'" translated in to Swedish it's, "Listen to God", Or, "A God feeling" Thank you, Liz Gale. You're an amazing person who exudes kindness, love, and knowledge ❤️. You're Appreciated ❤️.

[@TXTeacher1111]

I love this comment! ❤

[@swedishlina]

Jag har ingen aning vad du menar med att gut, låter som eller betyder gud …

[@AuditGoldenEra]

@@swedishlina ja kompis. jag är från den äldre generationen.

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

My gut has never failed me, but I *have* failed my gut! When I did...I paid for it.

[@ReezConnecting]

@@fairyspunfibers9098 omg 😨 me too. Not listening had me making terrible decisions. Now I try to stay congruent with my soul and actions. “The easier way” usually.

[@TheJoematarazzo]

I haven't navigated the anti-scientology world. I have simply been blindly moving around, bumping into hard things and getting hurt. I feel comfortable here.

[@psthisisme]

@@TheJoematarazzo Life has a way of doing that. This SPTV community, for the most part, is supportive and fair. I’ve learned a lot from everyone I FOLLOW on KZbin, but thank the God of my faith, I’m a NEVER IN.

[@soulie1971]

You are so right!! After all the drama I unsubscribed from some channels and I‘m following only people that really like..

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

Same! From trying to follow EVERY channel, it's shrunk to just about 6 or 7. Maybe.

[@dawnamarie]

@liz gale I'm so happy you took the time for yourself .I knew you would be back it's too deep in your soul not to. So when you need them breaks take them, we will always be here .We see you, We hear you , We support you 🫶

[@LorraineinPNW]

I'm so glad to see you back! There have been times when I didn't follow my gut, and I paid dearly for it (getting into a church with IBLP promoted from the pulpit then marrying a man who believed in it, too). You described our gut instinct perfectly..."if you get the ick about somebody, chances are that is your gut protecting you." Very wise words...that quote is going on my classroom wall! The book in your stack during your outro has now gone into my Amazon cart...Bad Girls Throughout History. If it's middle school age appropriate, then it'll end up in my class library.

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

@grandmaschuman Good idea! It also helps to describe to children what an "ick" might feel like ... to a child. Examples would have helped me tremendously, both as a child and as an adult. If your classroom is old enough, you could even share your own sad lessons with them. Being caught up in a cult is no joke and can ruin a life!

[@theholyrogue]

I love the diversities and commonalities we all have. Anyone can speak out, especially with an honest heart.

[@Annettespetessentials]

Hello the holy rogue

[@deannadowney1229]

Liz, this video resonated so much with me! You would think as a 63 year old, never-in, that I would have better instincts, but I don’t 😢 I can now see why all the ex-scientos are very guarded. I am a people person and choose to see good in everyone until given a reason not to! Thank you for your wisdom and platform ❤️ I appreciate you 🥰

[@fishdaddy35]

Hey Liz. You know I love and respect you. I have always considered you to be a voice of reason and sanity in the community. To clarify, the ex-Scn community was not always full of drama and rancor. Originally, it was a group of friends banding together to expose Scientology through books, blogs and media interviews. The first wrinkle in that was Marty Rathbun, who suddenly began attacking every other member of the community. He began the narrative that Mike Rinder was “controlled opposition,” hired by Scientology to destroy the ex community. Well, we all know how that played out and who really was in the pay of Scientology! These days, I pretty much ignore these flare-ups between members of the community, and do not follow the back-and-forth. But I DO look closely at anyone who promotes these conflicts and blows them up. And I look particularly closely at anyone who seems to be attacking EVERY major player in the community. Are they just working to grow their channel, or is there a darker agenda? Are they working for Scientology? Well, in my view, and according to my “gut,” anyone seeking to promote animosity and hatred in the community IS working for Scientology, whether they know it or not. Scientology wants to splinter the anti-Scientology movement and wants to get us hating and mistrusting each other. And they want to make the anti-Scientology space so toxic and unpleasant that no one will ever want to look at it. Hell, WE don’t even want to watch it!! Scientology is deathly afraid that current Scientologists will find these anti-Scientology channels and watch them, so they want to make those channels as messy and toxic and unpleasant to watch as possible. So who is forwarding that agenda? Of course, there will always be conflicts and arguments. But work those out privately, please, don’t spread it all over KZbin. That just muddies our message and makes it look like we are a toxic, horrible, warring group. Which we are not. YOU are not, Liz!!

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Thank you this means a lot to me

[@kenya420]

YES LIZ💪🏾I hope all is well with you and your family! I missed you. WE missed you.. BEYOND!!!

[@ServalanFan]

Wow 2 videos in one days. Glad to see you're back.

[@CubanaChica]

Liz it is so wonderful to have your calming voice back in the community❤❤.

[@cricket8438]

So happy to see you again. Things have gotten a bit rough these days. Happy to have you as one of my mainstays. 😊😊🥰🥰👍

[@susancook6115]

You’re the few I listen to anymore. Glad you are back

[@themenna007]

My gut is almost always right, my head sometimes overrides. I can't cope with the constant love bombing that goes on. Part of it is cultural - uk people don't tend to be so effusive as US folk and i find it difficult to separate sometimes. We all want to be loved

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

It is *definitely* a cultural "thing" for the U.S.-ers. 😊

[@johnanchovie2b]

Christ, spot on, Liz. After publishing my articles and book, it seemed that the totality of my social interactions was with parasitic psychos, narcissists and OSA infiltrators. I had to make a complete break and am very glad that I did so! Great talk.

[@pigsispigs51]

I’m so glad you are back, all you creators have your niche and you definitely have found yours. You are one of the voices of reason and I like your style of protest!

[@bridge1872]

Thanks for helping navigate and learning about this community .

[@maryc8121]

Couldnt agree more. Following your gut is so important . The times i havent followed my gut led me into sorrow and disappointment. Make wise choices , follow your gut, for happiness and good outcomes and results.. ❤

[@dogcrazy25]

So glad you are back. Best wishes to your son heading off to college. Your message works for us never-ins too dealing with life snd trauma.

[@Just_JuliaB]

So insightful. People need to hear this. My gut told me something about a few former sptv'ers. And sadly so far it is running true. So glad you are back Liz. #thevoiceofreason #loveyouliz

[@Constance_June]

So happy you are back!

[@Arminius420]

I am glade I had that experience, because now I have a very good bullshyt detector than ever before. I can pick up on cult like behavior very easily now.

[@HelloILoveYou1971]

So, so happy you are back! Even happier you took the time off with your family. Congrats to your son who is off to University. My niece and nephew twins are starting their Senior year of HS and soon will be off to University. I am proud and sad simultaneously. Anyway…..so great to see you. Love your content. Marcia

[@blakereed1654]

Thanks for your message and your truth Liz! ❤

[@nikkihatfield2055]

My gut has never failed me. I’m so happy you’re back on her, dear Liz!

[@LiterallySerge]

1111% THIS

[@Windswept-Lady]

❤ Liz, glad you're back. I'm a never in that supports SPTV. I don't watch as much as I used too. Lately I get my drama on Netflix. Great content 👍

[@cultyklatch]

"Gut instincts" are some of your oldest stored memories, accrued over time. Your body stores the long-term memories you don't need to access regularly down the brain stem, into the heart, lungs, and gut. The more experience you have, the more accurate your heart and gut feelings are. "Discernment" is recognizing when the head, heart, and gut are all aligned, you're probably right. Neurologists rock.

[@shewearsfunnyhat]

This is so important. Its important in every aspect of your life. I had people in my life who told me I could not trust myself. This is why I never liked AA. I was told I could not trust myself. In reality, as a child I could only trust myself. I am not going to stop doing that because its how I keep myself safe. I have found a way to be in recovery and trust myself.

[@moderndancer9071]

Great to see you Liz. Your videos are so well crafted & your voice is unique.

[@HappyHealingTrain]

I trust my gut in this and so far I have followed my red flags, and they have been true for me. Im really sensitive to drama and I dont want to indulge in it. So nice to see you back here Liz

[@Claudette09jack]

Thank you. Glad you are back, always trust your instincts. It never lets me down ❤

[@Blowdrill]

Standing outside the ⭕️

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

I hear you, Dylan! I'm usually so far outside it, I can't even see it...

[@MarygraceTOBDNCNG]

Love your podcasts! Thank you for all you do for us.

[@CountessLydia]

So happy to see you’re back, Liz 🥰❤️

[@Purplebliss141]

Aaaaaahhhh, shall I say that my gut has always been right. It’s when my brain overrides my gut that things can get kind of funky. I’m loving your new videos Liz. Your balance and clarity brings a smile to my face. I can imagine how helpful seeing your videos and hearing your wisdom is for people who have either just gotten out of COS or are thinking about it. ✨💜✨

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Yay thank you 🎉

[@nataliesherling970]

Beautifully said. Thanks for choosing light.

[@florencesouthard6804]

You are definitely the voice of reason in all this. It not easy to navigate healing from a cult that programs folks to attack and never defend and so on. I wish all of you love and healing. Welcome back lovely lady!

[@paulronk9694]

I appreciate this very much. I'm glad you did it.

[@hollylewis5302]

Welcome back Liz! You look rested, revitalized, beautiful and grounded. Great advice!

[@NeverIn57]

Glad you are back

[@jenniesecho]

Love you Liz! Great to see you so positive. ❤

[@DebS1965K]

Such true and insightful words! And I LOVE the endings of your videos!! Beautiful

[@PieceOfMyMind.]

Erickson's Trust vs. Mistrust stage of development and Maslow's Safety and Security hierarchy of needs . . . they're there for a reason. Don't forget to get outside, walk on the ground, touch the grass . . . and maybe hug a tree. 🥰

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Yesssss!!!! I’m going to talk about this super soon

[@Multichick]

@@PieceOfMyMind. aw, Maslow’s Hierarchy…. 💜 I have it on my wall 💜💖🌺

[@drifter2805]

THANKS LIZ 😊❤

[@magandmoo6146]

I really like your new outlook/format/self knowledge. I can't think of the right word now, but you are a lovely, calm presence. I've unsubscribed from almost all creators due to their ick-ness. You are a lovely way to dip my toe back in. 😊

[@AutumnMarlo]

So glad to see your smiling face again! The rest looks great on you!! Your look truly changed to calm! Keep up the self care!! ❤🎉❤🎉

[@PowerLiesToParalyze]

Liz, would your please repost your Red String Project or a pic of it in your community space. I would really appreciate it if you did.

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

I’m moving it into the new spot tmrw or the next day so yes!!!

[@PowerLiesToParalyze]

thank you @@liz_liz_gale_gale.

[@bethotoole6569]

Love having you back!!

[@LadyJaneOut]

Thanks again Liz you are level headed and a voice of reason so glad your back on YT

[@Multichick]

7:42 👏👏👏👏 only people you feel you can TRUST. Why have people in your orbit you need to ‘wonder’ about? Love this Liz!

[@Jazzy.girl.Sarah2023]

So happy you're back❤

[@The_SP_Chef]

Thank you Liz, love your vibe, your smile and hair! You bring a lot of kindness and understanding in this space. 😊👨🏻‍🍳

[@patkimbrell1820]

Love your new channel just lovely

[@kellineal5369]

As a never in that has been watching different creators...this is wonderful advice! ❤

[@Madam.H]

Thank you Liz for your insight …

[@A93-qg9xj]

I believe we all have a God-given intuition. Cults, dysfunctional families, abusive relationships all try to stop trusting our insticts. Great video, Liz!

[@mybirdsofparadise]

I am glad Liz us back! I miss the old video background though ❤

[@ButFirstCoffeeSuzyOberholtz]

Honesty is huge for me. If I find out someone is dishonest or fluffing up stories to benefit them, in done. I can’t trust dishonesty or self absorption. That’s why I love you. I feel I can trust you implicitly

[@VT_KITTEN]

Great video! 🧡💛

[@Lori.kaffel]

Liz! Happy to see you and you make great points

[@SarasotaJerry]

Words or wisdom. Good to see you back Liz Liz

[@SweetStephee]

Also-- I'm LOVING your intro, outro & format❤❤❤

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Yay! Thank you!

[@KeilahMcDonald]

I miss you and so happy you are back. I need you to come on Mental Health Matters because you are the most amazing person and you care about mental health. Love you my friend ❤

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

I'm coming back slowly, but I'd love to at some point! Thank you

[@glwatley]

Should always follow your gut. It’s always right.

[@shelleyogden3907]

Some have stepped away from the mission and rant too much for me. It’s sad to watch the implosion, so I have stopped watching several ex-Scientologists.

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

So have I!

[@Babygirl54782]

Hi from Palatka Florida, watching on replay! I'm so glad you're back! Your gut instincts are very important and a good tool to utilize.❤❤

[@psthisisme]

I love liz liz gale gale!!❤️❤️

[@Multichick]

3:27 😊 ‘fool me once, I have my eye on you… try that shit twice, gone.’ 💙💜❤️💖 mental issues are one thing… ‘Karens’ and ‘mamas’ are just weird, right??? 🤔

[@bethotoole6569]

Here's one to add.. Put. Down. Your. Phone!! Decompressing from social media can be the best thing to 'reset ' your intuition...

[@surrealistgirlx]

Hey Liz. Psyched to see you back. I really like your intro and the music. Is that you singing? You have a combination of insight and pragmatism that makes this video accessible anx illuminating. Thanks for sharing information to help me understand on a deeper level the individual and group dynamics of former Scientologists. I'm a never in. I can't really get all everyone's experiences but I want to make sure that I bring respect, understanding and compassion into my interactions on livestreams in and other exchanges. I'm a bit of a geek about how information is presented. I was a Technical Writer, plus I taught a class about it at a community college. Engaging presentation, cogent expression and organization of your content. It's logical, linear, and so many other fun things that my coffee deprived brain can't express them. Lol. Great backdrop. Excellent. The only thing you might want to check on is the sound. The volume changes a bit throughout. It seems like it's a matter of the placement of the mic. It seems that perhaps you're wearing it on your clothes. Movement can affect the volume.

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Yay thank you so much! I’ve been nervous coming back w new content so this is really nice to read

[@surrealistgirlx]

@@liz_liz_gale_gale You're doing a fantastic job! I kept editing the comments lol. I was a Technical Writer and was a consultant. I kept finding more and more positive elements. I thought you might want to see my finished notes lol. Color me impressed.

[@Blackmail1]

More beautiful and creative than ever

[@rebel1218]

I do trust my instincts, and most of the time, they are rights. In this community, one channel did fool me. But, as with the other channels that I found offensive, I unsubscribed. Now, there is less yelling and less drama. I delete those in chat who support certain individuals, and I find chats to be more enjoyable. My only wish is that some channels stop responding to those who continue to spread lies, threaten, and cause drama. Just ignore them. They crave attention. Don't give it to them.

[@Rose-ls1hj]

Wonderful to see you back! I ❤ the new outro!

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Yay, thank you! I thought it would be too long for an intro

[@janeS9773]

Glad you are back!!! xo

[@Larrylar1]

That was an amazing video as a never end I had a start on following so many people because I was getting triggered and mentally effed up over all this s*** that's going on in this community. I just started out so amazing and then everything went upside down real quick you had some real genuine people and you have drifters and they are destroying it for all to the point where I had a disconnect from following every single day cuz I was hooked Happy to see you back always loved Liz thank you for amazing information definitely trust your gut and that's what I did this is my second video I seen in the last 3 weeks maybe a little less but anyway point made trust your gut absolutely thank you Love you stay strong God bless

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

So glad it helped!!

[@Amers-77]

Good to see you Liz!

[@Lily_J85]

There she is! Welcome back Liz. Good to see you again.

[@Starsinthesky21]

Love this 100%

[@1gypsy731]

Loved this video, Liz, and I love you

[@Multichick]

9:06 💜💜💜💖 aw, Liz, you are so insightful. 🙏🏼 they do not know how fvcked up this cult is!!! I sometimes don’t watch the protests because it is stressful that way. Protestors, please use utmost safety precautions out there, always have someone with you 😊 and learn about this cult’s messed up criminal acts.

[@SweetStephee]

Still BEAUTIFUL, INSIDE & OUT ❤❤❤

[@NancyCanadian]

LLGG YESSSS on the instincts !!!

[@pault54]

great to see you back

[@montrealsquirrelgirl]

Wow so happy to see you !! ❤❤❤

[@AbusesOfScientology]

In my experience, people who try to destroy other people's credibility, accusing them of being a bad actor yet have no concrete proof are themselves the bad actors. People that get caught up in it hurt the very people who are trying to make a difference. The ugliness lately has caused many good KZbinrs, supporters and survivors to disengage completely to take care of themselves. If people want them to come back and stay active, IMO some accountability needs to start happening too. For one, why are people still hanging out in livestreams if they don't support that person's platform? I believe the healthy thing to do is report harassment and misinformation, give it a thumbs down, unsubscribe, ask KZbin to stop recommending those videos and completely disengage. Then support the people who are fighting to bring down this cult who proceed with actual facts

[@sandihill]

100%, 100% This! This video is definitely something you should be proud of. After many year’s follow this community I was ignoring the ick feeling I became a follower so therefore in my head there was a leader & that goes against everything I am. Strangely and now understandably also thankfully the recent upheaval had bought me clarity & a sense of peace and stability & this video puts into words exactly my thoughts & feelings on all that has happened to be able to but this into words is something I can’t do so well done Liz what you have is a gift that you have and have to work really hard to be able to create and then share the world is a better place because of your hard work. Thank you

[@mgers75]

Ive soured on a lot of the Ex Scientologist's who youtube. Learned alot but, they just infight too much using the old tactics they learned while brainwashed.

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

I totally get that

[@justdana2524]

Glad to see you back here again... you are a voice of calm in the SPTV community. I love this community, but sometime I just need me some quiet. Thank you for being that for me today.

[@waitwhat8321]

So glad to see you back. Love the new background. But the bouncing booby mic is killing me lol.

[@waitwhat8321]

I don’t mean anything weird sorry was just distracted by it popping into the frame.

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

I totally get it! I need a new audio set up tbh

[@waitwhat8321]

@@liz_liz_gale_gale I thought you sounded great the movement just kept drawing my eye. Great topic as well.

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

@@waitwhat8321 thanks!!!

[@melodyharcrow5940]

I think every creator brings something good/bad. Awareness is so important. Cant wait to see your upcoming art. Very great to see you again.

[@nealm6764]

Often "your gut" is just a response to charisma. That is why most of the people who trust their gut have a trail of bad relationships, victims of cons etc. Using biblical discernment and judging by the fruit people bear is better.

[@heidifluteatl]

🎉. I know this is only like your second video. But I love your new focus, this one was so good. I don't think my gut has ever not been right. Now have I done what my gut says rarely! Lol

[@liz_liz_gale_gale]

Wow, thank you! I appreciate your words so much and it’s nice to feel on track

[@fairyspunfibers9098]

Interesting side note: biologists have found BRAIN neuronal networks in...the GUT (okay, intestines) and the HEART. When they "twist"... heads up! I wonders where elses they might find them, I wonders; yes, I does... 😊

[@Kelly-BC]

Love you Liz ❤

[@MargaretKelly-Gorbett]

Brilliant

[@randamgrrl]

I am so glad to see you back! Your voice is so important in this space. Your beautiful soul shines through.

[@nancymckinney1006]

Liz, I am a never in who is so happy to see you back. You are a kind and caring voice of reason!

[@SPionage101]

So true