NBA Legends Explain Why Wilt Chamberlain was The Goat

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[@sickotwist9802]

53 points 32 rebounds 24 blocks 14 assists 11 steals in one same game!! Wilt had fast twitch muscle with endurance. Was good in 100 200 400 800meters. Was good in shot put! High jump! Long jump! Broad jump and was strongest guy in gym when preparing for Conan film!

[@jordanlindsay580]

If they counted blocks in his day he'd easily have the most career blocks and if he played 20yrs like LeBron he'd easily have 50k career points Wilt is the true GOAT

[@andrzejzborowski4920]

That line is not proven. There were no rules of steals, some blocks might have been goaltended. We don't know exactly how it was counted.

[@ottopukki9083]

Hundert gegen die Knicks without currying the Ball! Goat Right After rodman imo But what the fiuzle do i Know, 🎉

[@jirky015]

Played 48.5 minutes a game for a career. Never fouled out of a game.

[@andrzejzborowski4920]

@@jirky015 never fouled out but once recieved two technicals and got ejected. Playing entire games with fast pace and got fed by the ball all the time, being usually the tallest and the strongest player on the court his stats are nothing incredible

[@Piplz17]

Wilt, the real G.O.A.T. 💪

[@rodrigobezerra1319]

Can you imagine Wilt Chamberlain in the 80s playing for the Philadelphia 76ers with Julius Erving, Moses Malone,Charles Barkley, Maurice Cheeks,Andrew Toney and Bobby Jones ?

[@markkeneson6806]

That's just not fair.

[@michaelmorris2243]

Only better with the Celtics

[@sakhemit]

I respect Shaq especially what he has done for people after he played but he can be an egotistical jerk-25 year old Wilt would eat a 25 year old Shaq for lunch and a 25 year old Kareem for dinner..I SAW him play end of discussion

[@tobingallawa3322]

Wilt was perhaps the greatest athlete who ever lived. I can't understand why everyone ignores Wilt as GOAT

[@Johnadams20760]

for sure the greatest athlete that ever participated in basketball. and volleyball. although as for the greatest overall well rounded natural athlete, i give a slight edge to Jim Thorpe. he played pro baseball, pro basketball, pro football (and played several offense and defnesive poistions), golf, lacrosse, could swim won a national ballroom dancing competition, and won both teh decathalon and pentatlaon (15 events) gold in one olympic games aginast the best iin the world. although wilt could have probably made olympic teams in some sports. not sure he would have won gold though

[@tobingallawa3322]

@@Johnadams20760 He would have almost certainly won the Olympic Decathalon. Thorpe is another top athlete who was like an alien

[@johnrains8409]

​@@Johnadams20760While I am a great fan and admirer of Jim Thorpe, I respectfully disagree. Wilt excelled in as many different sports as Jim. The ones he didn't participate in, I believe he could have been well above average in most of then. He was fast and agile enough to play baseball. He would have been a terrific 1st base or outfielder, almost any position but catcher. Muhammed Ali agreed to box him but his manager smartly backed out. With his speed, strength, and incredible arm length, he could have thrown the javelin a country mile. Don't know enough about lacrosse to speak to it and don't know if Wilt swam or not. In college, he competed very well in the 440 dash, shot put, and high jump. Inducted into the NBA and the Volleyball halls of fame. He could have been a very good weight lifter.

[@Johnadams20760]

@@johnrains8409 i defintely know abou tthe volleyball HOF and also all the other things, including being drafted by the NFL (well he didn't go, but they watned him) and pro soccer, driving racecars, etc.. but another thing about thorpe, as a natural. he literally would neve rhad done a sport in his life, simply obseiver and immidaitely have msucle memory by watching to be better than just about anyone on his first try. example. when he was in high school, he watched some guys do the high jump, never attmpeted a high jump in his life, in fact jim was hin work clothes as he was coiing back from work. the bar was set at 5'4, but the gusy said ok try it. and as a joke thy placed the bar at the all time high school record at that time of 5'9, and on his first try in work clothes had the all time school rcord like it was nothing.

[@johnrains8409]

@Johnadams20760 It is a rather difficult comparison. When he, Jim, was riding the ship across the Atlantic, all the other athletes worked out, continually jogging and sprinting around the ship, but he just lounged on deck, catching some rays. When they got to the Olympics and time to perform, he did about 15 minutes of calisthenics and stretches and knocked 'em dead. I have seen Wilt play, but I am definitely not old enough to have seen Jim 🤣. However, at the college level, Wilt beat Jim's results in 5 of the decathlon events by a significant margin. I can't find any evidence of him pole vaulting, running 110 m hurdles, throwing discus, throwing the javelin, or running the 1500 m. However, with his times in the 110 yd dash, his agility and long legs, I don't doubt he could have run the hurdles. I do not think he could have pole vaulted. Too much height to get vertical and over the bar. He did run a sub 2 minute 880, and with the stamina he displayed, I think he could have been competitive in the 1500 m. He threw the shot put fairly well, and with his speed, agility, and strength, I think he would have been an even better javelin thrower. Ditto for the discus. With that wing span and strength, he would have been very good. Imagine the velocity he could achieve on the discus or javelin. He obviously did not play baseball, but can you imagine that sucker at first base. At any rate, it makes for a great discussion in front of a roaring fire at the tavern with a cold brew. Cheers.

[@user-dt4ey8ii5t]

Thank you finally, Wilt getting some recognition. If Wilt played for Celtics instead of Russell, it wouldn't even be close, he would be in the Wayne Gretzky category of 🐐

[@Jim_L]

I agree with you about if Wilt was with those Russell Celtics instead of Russell. I love, love, LOVE Russell -- a true basketball force. But Wilt was better than him. Is Wilt the greatest of all time? I'll leave that for those who enjoy that sort of fun debate. I don't think there is such a thing. But Wilt is easily ONE OF the greatest of all time. 🏀

[@ksager123]

​@@Jim_L 🧢

[@c99kfm]

Food for crazy thoughts; what if the Celtics got Russell, but then later drafted Wilt as well, how's that for a twin towers? And with Wilt, Havlicek and Jo Jo White still around, alongside ROY Cowens, after Russell retires, do you think Kareem gets that '71 ring?

[@Jim_L]

@@c99kfm That is a very interesting scenario to contemplate. Hmmm. 😃

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

Wilt was born to play basketball. He could have had better coaching and he might have had more rings.

[@sickotwist9802]

There is only one GOAT! Wilt😁❤

[@KOTAPA]

No.

[@kennyunderwood3602]

willis reed-nate thurmond-walt bellamy-bill russell-zelmo battey-bob lanier-bob pettit-wes unseld-artis gillmore-elvin hays-dave cowens-kareem-swade halbrooke.....and every team had 3 6foot 11 inch guys coming off the bench who would use all 6 of their fouls and hammer him.......dont look like bad competition to me.......looks scary.....and against that. he set records that will never be broken......all hail and bow down

[@chijaytavaakachija1513]

Dude was the fastest and strongest on any team. He was the fastest and strongest person in the NBA. I never seen a big run like in on a fast break. Dude could move. I dont think he benched 650, but it was well over 500. I’d be surprised if anyone can hit 450 in the league now. Not many paint warriors out there today.

[@allistermcginlay6476]

Wilt did things in basketball that no one in any other era came close to ever matching... a simple example has anyone ever seen any other player make a dunk from behind the backboard? He did it repeatedly, effectively, and it was unstoppable...

[@shadow81in]

What does dunking from behind the backboard even mean?

[@ksager123]

😂

[@allistermcginlay6476]

​@shadow81in obviously you never have seen a prime Wilt play!

[@shadow81in]

@@allistermcginlay6476 What about 1963 when he missed the playoffs? What about 1965 when he got traded in his prime, when he would’ve missed the playoffs, what about 1968 when he blew a 3-1 lead, what about 1969 when he blew a 3-2 led and had a teammate win Finals MVP for playing so well, what about 1970 when he shot 1/11 from the FT line in Game 7? Wilt isn’t the goat, he’s not even the greatest player from his era. Bill Russell won more MVPs and over 5 times as many titles. Wilt had more help than anyone from 66-72 and only won 2 titles, Russell won 3 titles in that span and was retired for half of it.

[@darthstigater6642]

I hear a lot of people say something along the lines of Wilt deciding he had to pass the ball in order to win a championship. There is at least a portion of his assist increase that can be attributed to having teammates that can get the job done when the ball is passed to them.

[@pebutts]

When Wilt came into the league, the Warriors were really struggling on the floor but more importantly in attendance and there was very real concern that the team would go under. The Warriors wanted Wilt to be on the floor and score as much as possible in order to get people to come to the games. The strategy worked and Philly, in addition to improving on the court, did much better at the gate and the franchise was able to continue when other teams were going out of business. The model of Wilt as the do it all player kept going until Alex Hannum took over as coach in 1963. He recognized (like Phil Jackson and Tex Winter would many years later with another transcendent player) that the team would be better if they didn't focus only on Wilt. He asked Chamberlain to spread the scoring around to make the team less predictable and harder to stop in the playoffs. Wilt, to his credit, agreed and after scoring 45 points a game the prior season scored eight points less a game, but the team got better, especially in the playoffs.

[@kjata77]

Wilt had the skill set of combined Kareem/Hakeem/The Admiral, the strength of Andre the Giant, the agility & speed of Kevin Durant and unmatched length. He had a great attitude to boot. Still holding that MJ was the 'small man' GOAT and that Wilt is the 'big man' GOAT. There is such little video footage of Wilt and that hurts people's perception of him.

[@ksager123]

You're funny

[@paoloalcantara2465]

🤣🤣🤡

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Wilt was way faster than Kevin Duran

[@robfalter2522]

not even debatable. WILT = G.O.A.T.

[@devilfriend]

Funnily enough, I think Wemby doing great will help young fans to understand why Wilt would destroy everybody in every generation of the NBA.

[@michaeldungee2666]

Without a doubt,Wilt Chamberlain was the goat

[@johnrains8409]

NBA added a new rule and revised 3 rules to reduce Wilt's dominance. 1. Added the offensive goal tending rule for obvious reasons. 2. Revised the inbound rule to make it illegal to inbound over the backboard. Again, it's pretty obvious if you think. Team mates would inbound over it with Wilt under the basket. Automatic 2 points, and usually a foul by someone trying to prevent it. 3. Widened the lane to move him farther from the basket. 4. Revised the free throw rule so a player had to stay behind the free throw line to shoot. Decades before MJ ever dreamed of making an exhibition dunk shot from the free throw line, Wilt did it in games. So they made it illegal. Now-a-days, as in football, they change rules to make it easier to score, not harder.

[@alexandrossimitzis146]

I never got to see the Big Dipper play ball live, but I'm glad that you're covering players even before the 80s and 90s! Keep going strong, dear Sean! Your channel rocks dude!

[@joeyjo-joshabadu9636]

People can say what they want about his era, but he still competed against the best athletes of his day.

[@natestarkey1]

With fewer teams, all of the best athletes were concentrated on to fewer teams. Every team was a super team.

[@atrueearthling4326]

Wilt,Russell, and Kareem, then everybody else.

[@johnming73]

Wilt and Jordan debatle goat. But Russell and kareem top 6.

[@GBU61]

At the center position, those are the three greatest. Each did something the others couldn’t; Russell defense and team player, Kareem with his sky hook and Wilt super human ability.

[@manfredjakobeder2853]

In todays Game Wilt would be unstoppable. back in the days the change the rules to make playing basketball difficult for him

[@natestarkey1]

It’s so hard to wrap your brain around how great he was, people try to come up with reasons to discredit him. I call it the Wilt affect.

[@russellgillick7938]

Imagine if Wilt played in Jordan's era if travelling, alley oops, no charge fouls, no "anti dunk" rules and anti Wilt rule changes on top of better teamates to start with. Nobody would be talking about Shaq or MJ.

[@lookfeelbehealthy6320]

Thanks for doing this video. I have Wilt at #2 all time behind Jordan.

[@saturdayticket]

Same!

[@natestarkey1]

It’s honestly hard to argue against them as 1 and 2.

[@jonathansmith3742]

Its really not even close. Just a race for second. Wilt is the GOAT.

[@Sizdothyx]

If basketball was a one-on-one sport, Wilt would be the top of the pops. No one would be able to come close. Not Shaq, not Jordan, not James, not West. No one. The problem is that basketball ISN'T a one-on-one sport, and consolidating your individual targets and thresholds means nothing if it comes at the cost of disrupting the four others on your team. It isn't just about stats: not assists, not rebounds, not blocks. It's about how you can get your numbers without taking away from your teammates. On that, Michael Jordan and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are the only ones I know who have had that level of "selfishness" translate into success ... and Mike is the only one who did it more than once.

[@Sldumas1983]

Shaq tripping he would get destroyed 😂😂 by Wilt who was superior in strength speed and skill

[@bayouboy8644]

I saw Wilt shake hands with Shack at a game, it looked like Wilt could have dislocated Shacks arm if he wanted to. Wilt would spank Shack, not even close. GOAT.

[@atx4fun]

Akeem destroyed young Shaq, Wilt was bigger, faster and better all around than Akeem. The other comment here is dead on. Wilt shook hands with Shaq and Ewing, it looked like a dad with his two sons. Wilt was not just tall, the man was broad and massive.

[@Johnadams20760]

and wilt was in his late 50s at th etime too. and still did that to a near prime shaq

[@ksager123]

​@@atx4fun faster??😂

[@ksager123]

​@@bayouboy8644 y'all be reaching with that statement. Shaq was just doing a handshake while wilt was trying to prove this strength

[@RG-ct6qz]

Who can beat Wilt? No one. It will take 60 players to break his records and some of them still won't be broke.

[@desmondscoby1943]

Once a generation so that's 18 years God empoweres a select few with Pure Athletic Ability then it's up to them to do something with it Wilt is one of those people

[@PeterSwift-pd2xf]

In one season Wilt averaged OVER 48 minutes per game! And never FOULED OUT. Case closed - and this from a Celtics fan.

[@Sldumas1983]

Remember the NBA waters Wilts game down so others could compete not the other way around, 10.2 100 meter speed yeah he was a freak

[@jingqi9106]

Wilt did not play against bad competition. In the mis '60s, for example, there were a number of Hall of Fame centers in the NBA - Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Walt Bellamy, Zelmo Beaty, etc... Most of the time Wilt was lined up against great centers. They were anything but plumbers and firemen.

[@jasonnelson6624]

Another lie is he only played against short players. Swede halbrook was 7'3 but they never mention that probably because they talk without knowing.

[@ksager123]

​@@jasonnelson6624 its a fact that his "great" stats are against short players

[@jasonnelson6624]

@@ksager123 he played agiant taller and shorter like every player does. How come tacko falls didn't dominate with his height or Shawn Bradley? Wilt played against 7'3 to 6'9 he was what 3 to 4 inches taller at most. Yet he still holds over 50 records Kareem played at the same time and was taller. How come he doesn't hold many records?

[@ksager123]

@@jasonnelson6624 when the league got taller his stats dropped really quick. Bill Russell outplayed him in most cases

[@ksager123]

@@jasonnelson6624 wrong. Kareem came later. Wilt's best stats were in centers who were almost a foot shorter

[@johnrains8409]

He is the only person who could consistently block Kareem's sky hook, twice in the same play.

[@EddieJames9999]

Wilt was getting offers to come back and play for an NBA team in the late 80s. Imagine a player 15 years away from retirement still getting offers from pro teams. I could see why someone would choose Kareem or Russell over him for a center career, but at their absolute bests I'd give it to Wilt for his overall package. Wilt 1967 is the peak year for a center in my view. The combination of individual dominance + versatility, and team accomplishment as the best player that year - along with being the only one to knock off a healthy Russell in a playoff series was remarkable.

[@c99kfm]

Yes. '67 Wilt had everything in greater quality and quantity than anyone before or since. His "gravity" was enormous, and with him focused on assisting, blocking and rebounding , his teammates could score at will. He averaged 21 points, 29 rebounds and 9 assists in the playoffs, on 58% FG%, while playing 47.9 minutes per game. In the 1969-1970 season, Wilt injured his knee and was never at his physical peak again. And it was not only Russell who got knocked off, it was the entire Celtics super-team. There were, apart from Russell, another 7 future hall-of-famers on that Celtics roster.

[@riofacts8283]

He's in my top 5

[@MambaM3ntality]

that no look pass by penny in the intro was soo cold

[@Mr.Cologne]

1. WILT IS THE BEST EVER. 2.Kareem Abdul Jabbar 3.Michael Jordan 4.Kobe Bryant 5.Bill Russell THIS IS REAL FACTS 🔥🤩🔥🔊

[@c99kfm]

The legends seem to recognize another legend for what he was. My problem is with a subset of modern fans and, unfortunately, commentators who keep calling Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Elgin Baylor and Jerry West "plumbers", or Nate Thurmond, Willis Reed and Walt Bellamy "short white guys".

[@ronharvey8442]

ONE NAME: "GEORGE MARCUS." This was the name Wilt played under when he was 16 and 17 years old for 2 semi professional teams in high school. He averaged 54 points per game and was league MVP in one of those seasons. He played Quakertown Faes at 17 and Pittsburgh Raiders at 16. He was dominating grown men professionally while still in high school. Please tell me if you can find anyone else who did that. He played for those teams at the end of each high-school basketball season those 2 years.

[@jellybeans336]

the saddest thing about comparing Wilt to modern players is how the ballhandling rules have changed. people say Shaq had *slightly* better handles than Wilt and Wilt couldnt even cup the ball, let alone delay the dribble. in Wilts era all modern big man post moves were impossible. spin? carry. dream shake? carry. dribbling at a 45° angle to switch hands? carry. look at Wilts globetrotter highlights, he actually wasnt a bad ball handler when he was allowed to actually dribble like normal

[@Sldumas1983]

Wilt is in Kobe’s top 5

[@jasonnelson6624]

Top 3 to be exact

[@c99kfm]

@@jasonnelson6624 "Wilt, me, Mike. Remember the list!" I do believe that list was an ordered list, with Kobe claiming himself better than Jordan while recognizing Wilt for the demigod he was.

[@jasonnelson6624]

@@c99kfm I know I'm the rare one. But I too put Wilt then Kobe. Just because I preferred watching Kobe but thats just personal preference. Either way I still got Wilt number 1.

[@jasonnelson6624]

@@c99kfm yes I remember the list he told it to Kyrie.

[@IknowImNotCrazyYoumightbe]

i met him in the late 80s, and people dont realize how big he was, even compared to other NBA players.....Wilt made Marvin (Stilts) Webster look like a kid

[@elwoodpalmer7622]

He is the GOAT

[@alexlindbjerg8283]

I'm joining the choir: Wilt is the GOAT! Him and Bill Russell are mentioned waaaay to little in the GOAT conversation.

[@unnaturalselection8330]

I have MJ as my GOAT ...but Wilt as the greatest athlete to ever play. The man wasn't a generational player, he was a once every hundred years or more combination of physical gifts.

[@ronharvey8442]

To score 100 with no 3 point line requires you to score 2.1 points per minute, the entire game, against another professional team that was trying to prevent him from reaching that mark. Even if you took an NBA player and put them on a college or highschool team, it would still be tough to accomplish, simply based on reaching 100 points in time. Now, to average 50 points per game, for an entire NBA season, required him to average scoring 1 point per minute for 3,456 consecutive minutes, with no 3 point line. Then, in the same season, to also average 25 rebounds per game, required him to get 1 rebound in 1,728 of those 3,456 minutes. Wilt's career rebounds per game average is higher than anyone else in NBA history has been able to average in one season.

[@andrewcarroll7641]

The only thing Wilt Chamberlain forgot to do while on Earth was put on that Red Cape with that big yellow "S" on it so we could all go... "oh, that explains it, I get it now!"

[@AltruisticMystic]

The real MVP.

[@karmaisreal261]

Hakeem Olajuwon is the most complete, skilled center I’ve ever seen.

[@joshportie]

For me too. But the footage of wilt owning kareem is unreal.

[@JAWrightonline]

​@@joshportieHow is a person averaging 27ppg vs another being "owned?" Also, interesting is the mentioning Hakeem when 37+ year old Kareem was dropping 40+ points on him MULTIPLE TIMES. And, BTW, Kareem dropped 50 on Wilt and held Wilt to 0 points. Who is really doing the owning?

[@nonrepublicrat]

you haven't seen much.

[@joshportie]

@@JAWrightonline an "unstoppable" skyhook blocked 8 times.

[@joshportie]

@@JAWrightonline clearly you dont know what im talking about kid.

[@tmc02086]

Dominique said Wilt would benching 650lb before the game. 650lb............

[@ksager123]

And you believe it 😂

[@jefftrag1956]

I have for years now said Wilt is the goat! Imagine a one on one game to 21 between Wilt and MJ. I think wilt wins.

[@johnming73]

Still bb is a Teamsport. Mj all Day long

[@michaelwheeler3782]

My money is on Wilt. Kareem beats him too

[@catmandude2357]

Yeah. Because Jordan doesn't have a history of dunking on 7 footers or anything. Chamberlain is the most exaggerated athlete ever. 48" vertical has his face like 5 inches over the rim. Would love to see a single photo or video of that. Looks like a typical 90s upper level center.

[@dundee1080]

lol That's not how it works.

[@williamweiss6128]

Wilt was an amazing athlete, not just a legend basketball player. Unlike anybody after him. Nobody is the goat at anything.

[@DoctorKel]

Wilt Chamberlain was the Most Dominant, Bill Russell was the Most Winning, and Oscar Robertson was the Most Versatile!

[@johnrains8409]

Shaq is full of it and himself. His style won't take away any of Wilt's records.

[@Bill_Woo]

Fact.

[@dennisrobinson8008]

Wllt was a fitness freak. What's crazy is he ended his pro basketball career "fat" for him with bad knees and he went into pro volleyball entering the pro volleyball hall of fame. In pro volleyball he reinvented himself and trimmed his physique into a slim sculpted physique in his 40's... I wonder if pro volleyball measured his standing vertical. I don't think his "ego" would have allowed an average or a low vertical. It would have been pretty high.

[@kylekahler3381]

Shaq is nuts

[@WBond-fr4ys]

Blocked Kareem's sky hook at the end of (Wilt's) his career. At the peak of the ball's trajectory. In crappy shoes. Averaged over 48 minutes/games for the entire system. At that size. In crappy shoes. Tex Winter tells the story of witnessing Wilt in college dunking free throws. He made calls and the new free throw rule -- play the release, but shooter must wait for the ball to touch the rim -- was introduced. When they change the rules to make it harder for you? That's Wilt. P.S. He'd make today's players look like bad competition. Wilt could easily dominate in this league. We'd act like no one has ever seen anyone like him.

[@GBU61]

Wilt was responsible for 4 rules changes which in each case was designed to make the game harder for him. In Wilt’s own words, he told Jordan the rules were made easier for him, which by the time Jordan came along, the NBA was changing into an entertainment first, sport second philosophy. The thing no one ever seems to bring up is Wilt got 50 rebounds against Russell, who no one’s give enough credit for how great he was. If there was any knock on Wilt, it was his inability to get his team to rise to the occasion when it mattered. But for pure awesomeness as a player, I would take Wilt over anyone.

[@thepugking319]

The thing is wilt could shoot fades not everyone knows that and he could shoot midrange jumpers yall don't believe me ask my grandfather and mother

[@jamesrobinson7381]

When I hear people not have Wilt in their top 10 and put Duncan, Hakeem or Jabar as the best center of all time I just laugh. They were all one dimensional in comparison to Wilt. 1st he blocked Jabar's sky hook 3Xs in one game in his Lew Alcinder days. One stat people never bring up is in Wilt's entire basketball life: HS, College and Pros, he Never Fouled out in a game. What grace that took for such a strong man. That's why he's in my top 5 as center. And the late great Kobe had this as his top 5 (God rest his soul): Magic, Jordan, Bird, LeBron and Chamberlain. All for obvious reasons. They were all the best at what they did. Magic could cover for an injured Jabar at Center and made everyone else look better. Jordan and Bird for their sheer will to win. LeBron could play all 5 positions. And Chamberlain with all his strength could still play Guard for the Harlem Globetrotters.

[@tateduku]

Dominique was similar to Wilt, in that, tho GREAT players by right! Their Athleticism was even GREATER!!

[@ivanflores7583]

He was the most dominant Center on his period of time and he was strong and great rebound and a score machine how many can say they scored 100 points in a game?

[@mj23goat3]

Ever notice how those early MLB pitchers were puttin' up some ridiculous numbers? Nowadays if a guy wins 300 games that's rightfully considered a world-class HOF level career. But Cy Young won _500+_ games in his day. Do any of us really think that he or Walter "Big Train" Johnson were better than say, Greg Maddux? Roger Clemens? Warren Spahn? Of course not. Know why? Because the game was in its infancy in Cy's day and guys hadn't mastered the mechanics of pitching yet, thus they weren't throwing hard enough to blow their arms out and as such were able to pitch outrageous amounts of innings culminating in equally outrageous win totals. Wilt is the NBA equivalent of that. He was playing when the game was in its fledgling stage which is why his statistics are so over the top. In the 80's-90's era (aka, the Golden Age of basketball) Chamberlain would have been a consistent 25-15-4 guy and a certain HOFer but wouldn't have been putting up anywhere NEAR the ludicrous numbers he was droppin' back in the '50's-60's.

[@jasonnelson6624]

That's totally different. We had to base thing off what batters said like with Walter Johnson. They all said Johnson threw the hardest. But it was still just here say. With wilt we have proof we have his 40 yard dash numbers, his vertical, his bench press. Based on your avatar Im guessing your a jordab fan? How wouldn't a 7'1 that runs 4.6 in the 40 and with a vert close to jordan and benches around 500. Who is stopping that today or any time? Besides you trying to compare him with guys in the 20's from baseball Wilt was just in the 60's. You may disagree but strictly from an athletic stand point no one equals him.

[@jasonnelson6624]

Just to point out about the golden era. Robinson scored 72 he is not on wilts level so ok he wont get 100 but hes doing more than Robinson.

[@mj23goat3]

@@jasonnelson6624 "Besides you trying to compare him with guys in the 20's from baseball Wilt was just in the 60's." The decade is irrelevant. What matters is how new the game was when the stats were being put up. Wilt began his career when pro basketball was only _13 years old_ as a sport, thus his bloated and misleading stats.

[@jasonnelson6624]

@@mj23goat3 @mj23goat3 I get your point. Which was why I used his actual measured ability. The guys you pointed out had none we just had to go off what generations before us have stated. With wilt he played against guys who played in your golden era like Kareem. Basketball players ability have not evolved to much. Over the few decades the biggest change has been how it's officiated. Which only would have improved his stats. He could then actually play bully ball like Shaq or Giannis. You can disagree all you want but your in the minority. Countless players and former players say the same. He was without a doubt the most athletic athlete to ever play basketball. Hall of famer in any era.

[@jasonnelson6624]

@@mj23goat3 also you keep mentioning his stats. No one is claiming he would have the same numbers. As I pointed out they might be lower or even higher. Is that your whole argument he wouldn't hold as many records?

[@justintrotter4186]

#Glad2See #ThatCaseClosed

[@jasonreardon8477]

Nobody comprehends how ripped wilt was. He was shaq height with 2x the muscle. Idc what era u put him in..no one stoppin him. Not shaq, not rodman, no one. Wilt didnt need to play with shaq agrression. If he did, heda averaged 100 🤣🤣. Dude can literally bench your starting 5. Sooo underrated cuz lack of footage. He will embarrass anyone hes vs.

[@ksager123]

You're insane 😂

[@williamwalker146]

Someone should make a career and a channel out of just compiling all the information that proves Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest.

[@johnrains8409]

Bad competition??? In the 1962/63 season, Bill Russell had 8 teammates who were later hall of fame inductees playing with him on the Celtics. Bad Competition my ass. I'm 77 years young, and have seen all but the earliest players. The NBA was formed in 1946, the year before I was born.

[@stargirlzx]

When players today talk about the goat, there is debate among them . The players that played with and against wilt ALL say he was the best EVERYONE of them

[@Browncow-fw6zh]

It is hard to avoid the conclusion that we all carry a bias in wanting to value more highly what we know better. Wilt was incredible in his day. People later hyped up Jordan more. Lately it has been Lebron pushed. But I am very skeptical that anybody will be pushing Lebron in 2050.

[@user-ps55619]

I have no idea what Shaq is talking about. Seriously. Wilt? He was interplanetary!

[@user-jw5qj8kv2y]

Although Chamberlain accumulated some of the most-impressive statistics in the history of professional sports, he was often called selfish and a loser because he won only two NBA championships and lost seven out of eight playoff series against Bill Russell's Celtics teams. Rick Barry wrote: I'll say what most players feel, which is that Wilt is a loser ... He is terrible in big games. He knows he is going to lose and be blamed for the loss, so he dreads it, and you can see it in his eyes; and anyone who has ever played with him will agree with me, regardless of whether they would admit it publicly ... When it comes down to the closing minutes of a tough game, an important game, he doesn't want the ball, he doesn't want any part of the pressure. It is at these times that greatness is determined and Wilt doesn't have it. There is no way you can compare him to a pro like a Bill Russell or a Jerry West ... these are clutch competitors.

[@allistermcginlay6476]

Rick Barry refuted that statement on numerous occasions and argues that Wilt should be first pick in any team!

[@mikewest2881]

Shaq would be humiliated out there by Wilt.

[@atx4fun]

Its hard for people today to grasp Wilt. He had equal or more athleticism that MJ, stronger than Shaq, shooting better than Curry and rebounding better than Rodman. You can look at individuals greatest games and he averaged that for a season or more. In the NBA, there is Wilt and everyone else fighting for 2nd place.

[@ksager123]

Stop

[@albertdepierro5994]

Wilt for sure, he did things no big man ever did. Even smaller players could do. Hdd Ed could of been a weight lifter, he was a volleyball champion, he could been a decatheol champion. He still holds 50records. What other player let alone a big man could do. Why is it no one giv Ed s Russell his do. People don’t understand if you played. Russell’s job was all defense . Reds philosophy was to funnel the offense to the middle where Russell was, taking away the outside. They could not penetrate. Then when he blocked the shot he kept the ball alive. Then after all that get the oulet pass to Cousy and started the fast break. Plus they were steam there’s no more team play just 30 ft jumpers and dunks. That’s why 11 champioships You will never see that again that team play at its best. Yes Kareem was great but he was a shooter only Now we come to Shaw . He was a brute . All he could do was man handle you . Everytime he got the ball he committed a foul . He committed a charge. He had no shot but a dunk. Not even a 5ft jump shot. He couldn’t shoot foul shots neither could Wilt. But foul shots are practice practice practice. If you don’t put the time in it won’t happen. Bird avg. 90’/, but took 200 to 300 after every practice that’s why. Yes Shak got 4 champioships but he had Kobe. Shak should be ashamed of himself to compare himself to Wilt, Russell. or Kareem Shaw never put the time in if he did and the calls were more fair he never would of achieved what he did. You know it Shaq give credit where credit is due!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sickotwist9802]

Wilt was blocking average of just under 9 a game. But didn't count on statistical records.

[@markwilson9840]

In his twilight.Prime Wilt blocks 15 or more every game.Wouldve averaged dbl. block on career,if blocks were recorded.

[@john.daniel14]

He blew away Arnold in a workout. Wilt was 30 years older than Arnold

[@David-pc9rg]

He was 11 years older

[@dundee1080]

Clueless comment

[@john.daniel14]

It seems like you all are ignorant. Do a search on KZbin on Arnold and Wikt workout together.

[@ksager123]

Are you slow?

[@john.daniel14]

@@ksager123 quicker than you and I would bust your ass On a basketball court... I bust everyone's ass on the basketball court.

[@essencetaiji1745]

So, Bill Russel, Walt Bellamy, the Lakers, etc. were bad competition? Yeah, go with that....

[@kris9145]

Theres wilt, and then theres everybody else

[@tankeater]

MY TOP 5- 1. MJ 2. WILT 3. KOBE 4. LEBRON 5. SHAQ 🤘 MY STARTING 5- At the 1. KOBE 2. MJ 3. LEBRON 4. WILT 5. SHAQ LMFFFAAAOOO

[@dopebeatsandmore]

I love how the talking heads have come to the consensus that Wilt is not the GOAT beut if you ask players to really be honest they have to give him his props!

[@natestarkey1]

Who said he had bad competition?

[@user-oi1iq6tt4j]

Hey shaq, wilt never had a penny or kobe or wade or phil or riley

[@ayv-]

Hip hop?! LMFAO

[@MrVante247]

Wilt's athleticism surpasses basketball.. 🤷‍♂️ everyone we mention are humans,, Wilt was not...

[@RG-ct6qz]

When people say MJ is the GOAT there's a lot of justification and stories. With Wilt there is no conversation. Who's better - no one.

[@johnming73]

What? Also for him justification and mystification. Sure He was strong and a great athlete. But championsship wise??

[@bayouboy8644]

I think there is a difference , greatest player vs greatest winner. If you talk player, Wilt winner, then you,d have to go Russell. . @@johnming73

[@RG-ct6qz]

@@johnming73 One on one no one can beat him. No justification. Check out the record book. And if you want rings its Russell. What facet are you looking at - individual play or team play.

[@ksager123]

Michael actually had footage of his legendary moments though...

[@RG-ct6qz]

@@ksager123 True. You don't need lots of footage of Wilt to understand the greatness. KZbin has enough. Plus there is the record book.

[@nonrepublicrat]

Shaq was never in Wilt's league.

[@ericroberts7485]

Shaq is so concerned about his legacy. I believe that if he had to tell the truth he would admit Wilt is better. It’s completely silly.

[@mauricecolvard]

WILT IS THE GOAT.

[@bitwbitb]

It's disrespectful how these people don't acknowledge him and have us believing others are ahead of him. Man is top 2 and he's not 2. If yall want to say championships matter okay I guess don't give him GOAT I guess but he better be BOAT then. Again he's top 2 and he ain't 2.

[@dactah5177]

It's funny. The Case has tried to be made that Shaq Shaq was more dominant than Wilt. This was of course only made by Shaq himself because he lacks any humility. Every other gray, including the invincible Bill Russell, say that Wilt is the most dominant player of all time. Occasionally it is said that wilt played against little guys. Well, in the 1960s the average height of an NBA player was exactly the same as it is today. Every other night, Wil was playing against a 7 foot Hall of Fame center. Never mind today, when we played they had to change the free throw rule before he came into the league Because he could take one step behind the following line and then jump and dunk the ball. Yes, this is a fact. They also changed the goaltending rules, added the three second violation, and widened the lane. All because of Chamberlain. And forget today. With the current rules of no handchecking, and the ability of players like LeBron, Dončić, Jokic, two simply bull their way to the basket, I would argue that even the Chamberlain back then without the advantages of current training, nutrition, footwear, etc. he would be even better. Face it, and if Embid becould put up 70+ against Wamby and routinely drag Golbert, can you imagine what Wilt would do? He might even have taken free throws more seriously. And as Steph Curry said, as far as the three Poynter goes "he would've figured that out too. I'm just happy he's not part of this current generation or he would change everything."

[@nathanlawson313]

Myth: Wilt was the Shaq of his day, dunking on 6'6 centers. Just too strong and athletic. Fact: Wilt was too strong, athletic, and skilled even for all the 6'10 - 7'2 centers he usually faced. His play style was more the Dirk Nowitzki of his day, with (an estimated) 70% of all his shots from the post being unblockable Fadeaways. I got Wilt #4 all time. Ahead of LeBron, behind MJ, Kobe, Kareem

[@anselmaule865]

Shaq would've been destroyed by a Rookie Wilt for him to have a chance Wilt would have to be in hrs fifties against prime Shaq.

[@isaacalvarado7577]

That's a lie. He had a game but not the season

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

Kareem had the nerve to say AFTER WILT DIED...that Kareem "wore him out". Obviously nowhere near as physical OR endurance. I lost a lot of respect for Kareem

[@isaacalvarado7577]

Only 2 champions. In a era when it wasn't that good

[@catmandude2357]

When Wilt played, in the 60s, the league was 85% white still, with literally 4 or less 7 footers including Wilt, and only 8-10 teams. Softer than even the current NBA, which is almost impossible.

[@Monika77ful]

So if there were only 8-10 Teams the talentdensity must have been extraordinary. So Wilt had in fact played better teams since only the best of the best made it to the NBA with a lot fewer slots than in any other era.

[@catmandude2357]

@Monika77ful I guess if you consider a league with Wilt, Russel, Elgin Baylor and like 97 white guys no one cares about at all a super takent dense league then there is no rational argument to be made with you. Look at the rosters from the year he scored 100. It takes like 5 minutes on any nba site. There is a reason Wilt and Russel always faced off in the finals, and it wasn't because they were so dang good. They were literally the only 2 strong 7 foot tall black guys in the league. For like 10 years. The opposite of 80s and 90s NBA which was 85% black guys and had 3 7 footers per team.

[@bayouboy8644]

Check yourself cuz with the white guys can’t play . Check that era and see how many white dudes are in th HOF. YEA, AND IN THE TOP 100 ever. Just saying. respectfully @@catmandude2357

[@ksager123]

​@@bayouboy8644 irrelevant comment. They still played against other UNSKILLED white guys

[@ksager123]

Wilt fans are worse than LeBron fans. At least we have a little proof of lebron's dominance

[@neboyshanicolich761]

In My opinion Wilt is number 3 all time...behind Mike and LeBron.

[@catdaddy2643]

Kobe is ahead of lebron in my humble opinion

[@ksager123]

​@@catdaddy2643 not even close. Kobe is much more skilled

[@stephencormie945]

I've heard he wasn't good under pressure so in my opinion he can't be the goat

[@wingzero2348]

Shaq aint got sht on wilt

[@michaelb789]

Wilt was a Beast but he was weak. Strongest Player ever but he was a terrible free throw shooter, did not work on his game, stepped out when his team needed him. I would take Kareem, Hakeem over Him.