NBN FTTP Free Fibre Upgrade | Relocating NBN Box Or Router From Garage To Inside House With Conduit

[@DrCoomer_1]

Just using Drain Cleaners Australia as an example, watching and learning about stuff people deal with and ways to find solutions is honestly entertaining as hell.

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[@Ram84_1]

Congrats bud lol love the "no one cares" gag lol

[@Maclah]

love the damn recorder XD

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[@jcramond73]

Old trick I used to do Jason was unscrew the saddle above and put on another half saddle facing down, that holding the conduit with no probs. 👍

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[@michaelmaher1520]

Congratulations Jason. as a former now retired Telstra tech I enjoy seeing these videos and I can't believe some of the poor work by NBN Co contractors.

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[@kevlec1947]

Congrats Mate, you deserve it. Stay Safe.

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[@andymate2006]

Congratulations Jason for your 1 million views.

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[@Mproud661]

I’m a subscriber and find your content entertaining to watch how nbn is connected in different premises. For the QNA: what was the hardest nbn work you have done to someone’s premises

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[@AndyHill]

1:54 - ok, you get a subscribe just for that 🤣🤣

[@themaconeau]

S tier right there 😎

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[@paulkilpatrick2582]

Congratulations mate, my question is what is the best way to get an open cable license I have checked and from what I can see you need to complete and pass 3 day course and be signed off with by licensed person I think it’s 38 hours for restricted and 320hours for open i am trying to seek someone to sign off is there any other option?

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[@leonclose7823]

Any tips on getting a good, neat installation in the context of a NBN FTTP upgrade from copper?

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[@DodgeyRog]

My question is: what did you do when you left school? Who was your first out of school job with?

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[@sitecommptyltd2635]

Keep up the good work

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[@chcknew-when8602]

Q&A: Hello! I have a few questions regarding lead in cables from the pit. I have a property with 2 separate houses that need a fresh new installation of the lead in cable from the pit but discovered that the actual conduit underground has some blockage issues(the current copper cable from pit to the first property is damaged and only at 20% usage) and second property has no cables installed from pit). Is it NBN's job to have this installed for free? Because the nbn techy said that I was required to pay for it. Would you install a new conduit or need to use the blocked one? Who is responsible for the installation of the cables within my 2 properties?

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[@jeremylindemann5117]

That sounds like a property maintenance issue which might come under the jurisdiction of the local council. A new property would require a new pit and lead-in installation to be done by an approved installer, perhaps Telstra or NBN co. The old damaged copper cable for your existing property is a different story. Firstly, the copper cable should be inside of a protective conduit. If it isn't then the cable may not have been competently installed by an approved technician, but by an owner who likely decided to save money by doing it themself. I'm not sure what you mean by your conduit having "blocking issues" but it should not be intersecting any other pipework. If the copper pipe or conduit is damaged then you need to have it replaced. For that you should contact your ISP and organise a technician through them or ask for the name of an approved third party installer. If you damaged the copper cable then you will have to pay for the expensive of replacement. If a technician damaged it then you will have to make a claim with your ISP and ask them to replace it. They may require proof of who damaged the cable, how and when.

[@chcknew-when8602]

@jeremylindemann5117 The new property is an extension and needs a separate infrastructure because the builder skipped that part and no longer is contactable. Is it possible to have nbn responsible and cover the cost for trenching in concrete and lay the infrastructure under the 'last resort' option?

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@@chcknew-when8602 I don't think nbn will do it for no cost because they are under no obligation to. They might still do the pit and trench installation work so I suppose you can always make an enquiry with them and ask for a quote. You may have some legal recourse which will oblige the builder to finish any agreed work but it would depend on just how uncontactable they are. I'm not really sure, I'm not an expert on property and building.

[@alexiekola]

Congrats on the views! Q&A i like to hear about a job horror story and what is in your everyday carry kit ?

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[@themaconeau]

Hey Jason, our town is about to receive FTTP in about 12 months' time (NBN-Gods willing) and am thinking of pre-running conduit (existing service is overhead) from the property line into the house where I need it (about centre of the house). What size conduit does NBN like and do I need big sweeping radius corners to enable a smooth installation? 🤔

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[@Gabriel-wb7oj]

Q&A Hay mate on the central coast how do we go about getting NBN to fix the copper in the street. We’ve had dropouts all the time since connecting the NBN FTTN Have gone the 5G mobile service six months ago but still dropping out in peak times 5PM-9PM my home Internet is absolutely useless Any advice would be grateful

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[@jeremylindemann5117]

I had issues with FTTN copper reliability recently. I ended up getting it resolved by dealing with my ISP (iinet) but not after some difficulty. Call your ISP's tech support line and report the issue. They will likely run you through some normal, simply routines to resolve the issue. These checks will normally involve restarting your own equipment (modem/router and computers). So it would be wise to make sure all your equipment and cabling inside the house, right up to the where the lead-in cable terminates inside your property are all working properly and are not the cause of the fault. Sometimes a simple looking join can be bad so it's worth checking them. Once you've been through all those checks with your ISP you can make a request for them to inspect the line. They can do this at a few places, within your property, in the distribution pit on your property and at a local NBN node. If if turns out that there issue is your fault then you can be charged for the technicians time, if the problem is on their end they won't charge you. I had a strong suspicion that my dropouts and speed problems were not due to anything on my property so I ended up requesting that a technician be sent out 2 or 3 times. On a second inspection at the nbn node they discovered a problem with my copper line termination at the nbn node. It had been interrupted by a previous technician doing work on someone elses line. They fixed my connection and my FTTN speed went from 33MBps to 100Mbps and the dropouts stopped happening. So, in short, you'll have to go through the hassle of dealing with your ISP but it will most likely be worth it.

[@Gabriel-wb7oj]

@@jeremylindemann5117 thank you for the reply since writing this i have been connected to FTTP only yesterday The ridiculous thing according the installer the fibre has been in my area for over 2 years but has only been activated in the iast 2 weeks hopefully i will not have any more problems 🤞

[@ForTheBirbs]

Congratulations. A general question / clarification on fibre upgrades that might help some people out - In a situation where the existing incoming conduit terminates in a crap location - can you install appropriate conduit for the NBN insaller to extend the fibre run? I assume the external fibre box would ge where the external conduit terminates, and then internal fibre run in new conduit to inside fibre box. Sorry for the convoluted wording!

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[@jeremylindemann5117]

You would have to check your ISP with what they allow the customer to do. My guess would be that you can install or modify the conduit yourself but you might need the technician to inspect and approve it which may mean leaving the conduit trench uncovered until they get to your property. The cabling itself most likely has to be done either by your ISP's tech or an approved third party contractor.

[@KieranMahoney]

How much experience in the industry do you have? Any past jobs at major isps / contactors?

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[@peterbollard9181]

Hi Jason, I do some data cabling on the Central Coast, lots of people have been building granny flats in the back yard, I have lots of problems getting 2nd service when it is Fibre To The Node is their any tricks you know for a 2nd connection ....thanks

[@GavinR824]

Granny flat needs to be on its own title. Many devlopers/owners aren't doing this, and nbn are only obliged to service one "premises".

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[@ashuggtube]

Congratulations on 1M total views! That's awesome. My question is, was LV cabling your first trade and you've been doing this since forever, or did you do other things before settling into this business? Thanks.

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[@GavinR824]

Q&A, Seeing what you see out in the field, do you think nbn should have persisted with their original fibre everywhere plan? Does all the corroded joints and crappy connections balance against the broken conduit, buried pits and impossible building access?

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[@jeremylindemann5117]

From a house owner point of view I would rather have run an ethernet cable through the roof than put ugly conduit runs on the outside wall. That's not a comment on Secure-A-Com's work, he's doing what's practical with limited time, in agreement with the customer. I like to prepare things ahead of a technician's visit to make things as quick and painless on the day as possible.

[@a9503128]

Q: my unit was built circa 2000 and has internal cat4 and rj11, I would like to use the cat4 to pull some new cat6, how likely from the 00’s is it that I have end to end conduit?

[@DodgeyRog]

What material is the wall, where the cable is located, made of?

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@@DodgeyRog concrete slab, it’s standard blue cat4 to wall plate.

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@@a9503128 i’ll let the master reply but from what you’ve said, you may have half a chance!

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[@michaelfogarty3239]

Congats on making 1mil views. Do you think when they do fibre to premises that the Depth dug down is safe in regards to future with landscaping and trees?

[@commodorenut]

In the case of my old house, they couldn’t feed the fibre up the existing u/g conduit, so they had to lay new conduit from the pit to the house. We got a week of heavy rain just a month or so later, and a good 2-3m of white NBN conduit popped up in the middle of the patchy grass mess they left. I followed it both ways and with the exception of dipping down into the pit, it was no deeper than 6 inches anywhere, and in most spots was barely 2” below the surface. I rang up and complained to NBN Co, so they sent a guy out to assess it. He claimed I must have dug it up myself and wouldn’t note it down as a pxxx poor job on their part. Because of no action, I complained again and the phone operator looked up the address and told me it’s noted that the owner tampered with the install so they won’t fix it. The dirt below the shallow muddy channel was rock hard - proof it couldn’t have been properly buried, and likely the reason they did a pathetic job. My in-laws had guys with a ditch-witch come and do their trench. I’m guessing that’s what should have been done at my old house.

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[@gregbelcher937]

NBN installation requirements dictate a dedicated GPO below or below and to the side within a couple of hundred millimetres from the mounting point of the NTD. I expect the householder will have to pay for an electrician to install a dedicated GPO for the NTD in proximity to your data socket. The existing GPO seen in your video is clearly being used for other purposes and would be unsuitable for NTD use. Otherwise, congratulations on the growth of your channel.

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[@Mangoorchy]

Hey mate, good to see other quality cankers out there. Views on installers using non s008 or non rcm compliant materials? Would love to hear more thoughts on Aus telco industry.

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[@jjcoolaus]

Congrats on the views and subs. Do you have any tips on how/where to find good techs in other cities? Jason from Adelaide

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[@annoyedlemon]

Congrats question do you reckon opticomm will end tanking resulting on the NBN taking over those services as i am someone on a opticomm service and i am finding worse than the nbn HFC connection i had at the old unit

[@GavinR824]

Opticom is considered a legit nbn competitor in the market, so they won't get their network replaced by nbn.

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[@ThePred2009]

what diameter conduit do you use for cat6a?

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[@Damien_B78]

My question is: Those boxes in the ground housing all the cabling that get flooded do you think they could design a waterprof box to fit in them with access points for the cabling it seem as though they could be designed much better. Been watching your videos for short time learned a bit. Wish I had have seen these videos a last year where we used to live our telstra internet would constantly drop 2-3 times a day and it never got fixed. Luckily we moved. keep the videos coming.

[@Rusty_Gold85]

The joints are water proof but the imported contractors who dont care about closing them . The pits fill from water up hill alot of the time

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[@DDB168]

1 million views is pretty good. 👍 Possible dumb question, but do you know of any good books that would help in learning about telecommunications, but in particular, the practical side of it?

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[@TeflonTyson]

Can you make a video on how to upgrade your speed, if you already have fttp ?

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[@everyhandletaken]

Hey Jason, congrats on the 1m views ! Question.. Running a CAT cable just like in this video - this has to be performed by a registered cabler or no ?

[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

Short answer yes, Unless it's never going to connect to a Carrrier network.

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@@brendanmichaelwelsh6260 so, unless it is an air gapped network then? Anything else has an indirect route (unless anything after the network termination doesn't fit that definition)

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[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

Cat6A for a ~10m run ? I don't see what the benefit would be Vs. regular Cat6?

[@edwardsdean]

Cost difference is negligible, and less to keep in the van then

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[@willdutt]

well done. Am based in brisbane but your vid's do make some nice pop corn entertainment that hardware is just as shitfaced as software ;)

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[@richardkimmorley6384]

I"m finding NBN are saying now we will not repair your copper service because fibre is now available. Then the poor customer has to wait weeks to months for fibre to become available if it is not in the pits already. This process is where the copper service requires a complex fix ie remediation required for joints, lead cable issues that requie money spent.

[@chcknew-when8602]

Isnt it NBN responsibility to install and maintain a working cable to the property?

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[@ChrisCollinet]

Q: Easiest way to get cables up and down wall, without cutting access holes?

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[@davidranieri924]

Scared of cavity’s and roof spaces?

[@ashuggtube]

You missed the bit where he said in the video that the garage wall was single brick? No cavity. Probably no roof space either. The customer clearly didn't mind having conduit along the brickwork as there was already one there.

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[@DodgeyRog]

Neat as a pin! Refreshing to see the conduit markings rotated out of view! We used to get caned by the boss if we didn’t do that, but most don’t seem to care these days. Congrats on the 1 mil, bloody awesome!

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[@JediRobin]

Hi thanks for the videos, if it was my house i would have asked you to run the conduit under the eaves instead of along the brickwork.

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[@allenrobinson975]

how many in your company

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[@g120957au]

Why didn't you pull the old feed out from the house and pull a new CAT 8 in, in its place, CAT6a is so old school

[@GavinR824]

CAT 8 is simply overkill. CAT6a is good for 10Gbit over that sort of distance.

[@nathanstathis8390]

​@GavinR824 adding Cat 8 also has a complicated earthing situation. It's not just one cable run, it's also 2× earth wires (one at each end)

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[@einfelder8262]

OMG - why would you run that ugly conduit along the outside of the garage instead of the inside, and then under the eave instead of inside it, and then down the outside of a cavity wall. That is truly awful in my opinion. And then the NBN has to run around the double brick inside the garage to boot. Same goes for whoever ran that existing conduit.

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[@vincesnetterton5868]

ethernet over power would be another, less ugly, less expensive option, or even a second bridged router

[@GavinR824]

And the performance would suck. Nothing beats direct cable.

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@@GavinR824 yes, but no one uses it

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@@GavinR824 what performance do people need to watch youtube or netflix or facebook. no one needs it, except you

[@ashuggtube]

Ethernet over power is disgusting, get outta here

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@@ashuggtube in what way

[@vincesnetterton5868]

wifi / access point makes this ugly mess, unneccessary

[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

Some people like to have a service / network that actually works - Wifi has it's place but should never be the default goto.

[@GavinR824]

WiFi is in no way comparable to having a direct cable connection. WiFi should only be for devices that are portable and can't have Ethernet.

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@@GavinR824 no one cables their laptop

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@@brendanmichaelwelsh6260 no one cables their laptop

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@@brendanmichaelwelsh6260 um, wifi is the default go to