Minato “I’m not good at Sage mode.” *Turns into a PERFECT Sage in seconds*
@sixpathskaiokentv2 жыл бұрын
God tier "Actually, I'm not good at Senjutsu" *Instantly transforms* Had me in stitches watching the series 😂 😂 😂
@dragondrakage2402 Жыл бұрын
To clarify, he says he's not good because it only lasts for 1 atk
@emperor8984 Жыл бұрын
It means Minato can't sustain Sage mode for longer time unlike Naruto,Hashirama,Those Toads that taught Naruto Sage mode.
@emadahmed7145 Жыл бұрын
Bs of the story. Actually kishi has ruined a lot of things with Minato. He ruined sage mode and he ruined Kurama jinchuriki.
@damage678 Жыл бұрын
@@emadahmed7145he had to be nerfed some how 🤷🏽♂️
@adamdonovan7269 Жыл бұрын
Something that everyone neglects to mention with Minato is he was already exhausted going into his fight with Obito and Kurama. He spent the entire day stopping the seal from breaking on Kushina. It was weak during childbirth and so he had to use his own chakra to keep the seal from breaking and also to supress the 9 tails. He didn't go into the fight at full power because he was exhausted. Then he saves Naruto and Kushina multiple times, then he teleports a 9 tails beast bomb then fights Obito then does everything else. Obito literally exploited every advantage and it still wasn't enough. Minato is insane.
@zacharyjohnson8847 Жыл бұрын
I’m certain this was mentioned in this video but yeah Minato is crazy
@adamdonovan7269 Жыл бұрын
@zacharyjohnson8847 No it wasn't. In fact the recent 1-shot literally makes this video obsolete. Minato as a 14 year old is at Hashirama level. Show me Itachi being the same. Yeah you can't. Even without trying to hype him that high it doesn't matter. Minato at every disadvantage nearly killed Obito. Itachi at every advantage couldn't find a single counter to Obito...
@zacharyjohnson8847 Жыл бұрын
@@adamdonovan7269 I completely agree Itatchi wouldn’t win and Minato is in his own league. Just saying he defo mentioned the handy cap before him sealing as well as the fight with Obito. Itatchi is the guy but this battle shows there’s a reason for him being number 2 in the test and even that doesn’t show the gap enough with both in their prime.
@adamdonovan7269 Жыл бұрын
@zacharyjohnson8847 Minato doesn't mentions or even recognise the handicap because in his mind it doesn't exist. In Minato's mind what happens is this: someone shows up and that someone seems like they are getting the better of me. Oh wait, they aren't. There isn't a single person that can argue otherwise because Minato is confirmed to be Hashirama level. Prove otherwise...
@zacharyjohnson8847 Жыл бұрын
@@adamdonovan7269 I think your in a genjutsu brother, we literally agree.
@gamgeez75 Жыл бұрын
Minato summoning Gamabunta is a kage level feat
@tman22rukambeАй бұрын
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@Shvinorg10 күн бұрын
Okay 😑 he is a kage after all
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
"Every single Jutsu has a weakness. You just have to find it." *- Itachi Uchiha*
@blandera89192 жыл бұрын
I’ve read that in his voice lol
@AMJ5642 жыл бұрын
Itachi figured out the weakness of planetary devastation instantly. Minato figured out the loop hole in Kamui Pretty even Edit - *pretty even* in terms of battle IQ
@PedroHernandez-uy3pi2 жыл бұрын
"I feel funny" drunken lee
@mariogrant96252 жыл бұрын
Even the flying rijin he can figure out how to stop that flying rijin
@mariogrant96252 жыл бұрын
@@AMJ564itachi figured it out to tbh , when he was about to massacre the uchiha, he popped up on obito and told him he knows how his ability works he noticed him goin in an out the village.
@rickosteel81002 жыл бұрын
I still think that Minato pulling half of Kurama was an oversight, especially after fighting Obito and redirecting a 9 tails tailed beast boom, and yet he still had enough chakra to put inside Naruto, perform a summoning and create Naruto's seal. The man had an insane amount of chakra
@rahulkindo82822 жыл бұрын
it was done to satisfy the plot, no doubt he has a lot of chakra but half of kurama after fighting and teleportation is a bit of a stretch.
@tick11802 жыл бұрын
@@rahulkindo8282 even if it was done to satisfy the plot, its still canon
@raducora71592 жыл бұрын
When he did that, he became only the second person to ever SPLIT a tailed beast, after Hagoromo split the 10 tails into 9 entities. HOWEVER, I'd argue that is not a testament to his chackra supplies, but rather a testament to his extreme proficiency with sealing jutsus. The higher degree of mastery you have over a jutsu, the less chackra you end up spending on it. That's why he was able to perform the Reaper Death Seal on something with MUCH more chackra and that's why he was able to spam FTG like it was nothing.
@silverbolt66992 жыл бұрын
@@raducora7159 this is a great explanation of a classic oversight. Kinda surprised that him being a pseudo-jinchuriki doesn't get dropped more. Definitely a result of his top tier sealing
@ittybittyshinystar2 жыл бұрын
@@raducora7159 "Ripper Death Seal" I just imagined the shinigami letting rip a beyblade lmao
@AvlisadSirk2 жыл бұрын
A bit of an oversight, Minato has learned a lot more sealing Justus than just reaper death seal and the eight trigrams sealing technique from Kushina who was an Uzumaki, who we know were basically the gods of sealing techniques so dangerous everyone literally had to gang up on them to eradicate them based on fear alone. So with his instantaneous levels of speed, plus top class sealing techniques, Minato was never meant to be a raw power type shinobi. He would definitely not try to brute force the Susanoo. I think he's more likely to find a way to seal or disable the Sharingan or the Susanoo itself somehow. As seen in the show many times the way to break sealing techniques are to brute force them with raw chakra power, or through some built in mechanism in the sealing technique. We know Itachi isn't going to out chakra Minato based on the evidence covered in this video, plus the Uzumaki sealing techniques are unrivaled and borderline busted. Even if Itachi were to figure out the mechanism to break it, Minato wouldn't stand around waiting for him to figure it out like a lot of anime characters would lol. In that time Minato is likely to instantaneously capitalize and end the fight. Also, since Minato's backstory was barely explored in the show, we really don't know much about his power or Jutsu arsenal beyond "he's extremely dangerous and fast". Whereas Itachi has tons of screen time and we got to see his story from childhood to adulthood. Based on just the fact that we know Itachi's entire arsenal and barely know Minato's but it's still borderline 50/50 matchup, I'll give the slight edge to Minato in winning at least 6/10 fights.
@Quoper1 Жыл бұрын
How difficult would a Justus to seal an eye power. What would it take to undo it?
@barbiewinagain9118 Жыл бұрын
if anything in his arsenal was of essence, minato has showed it.
@kevinguzmanvelez1456 Жыл бұрын
@@Quoper1 well tbh, there are different types of seals, but any variation in the show in to like the 10th power would be viable. For the sharingan it would easily be one like sai or the scroll types that sealed the Edo tensei people. I seriously doubt that Minato wouldn't have access to a faster and improved version of these. It could also be a type like he uses to mark people, that's already a seal, and since sealing works for chakra like with tailed beasts, i doubt you wouldn't be able to seal or disable chakra from certain areas like his eyes, that's said, it would probably take too long to do in combat imo, based on the Kurama seal and Kakashi's seal on Sasuke's curse mark.
@Quoper1 Жыл бұрын
@Kevin Guzman Velez if Minato lived to diversity with other villages as a true problem solver. Would he adapt other villages style so fluently as he has show throughout this short appearance. Learning Sai's painting style adequately, or a formal contract with the Bug stuff(I'm on the deep end) play with it.
@clockon9929 Жыл бұрын
@@Quoper1 yeah it seem like minato is insane in adapting during combat He would have killed Obito if Kushina wasn't there pregnant with naruto
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Minato and Itachi both played HUGE roles in Naruto's life.
@FortStories-Media2 жыл бұрын
No, not just for Naruto's, they're the set-ups for the end of the cycle of hatred. If Minato never put Nine Tails in Naruto he's never hated, if Itachi never slauthered the Uchiha, Sasuke never goes as far as he have and did.
@freshprinceofgettingdisres20892 жыл бұрын
@@FortStories-Media if itachi didn’t slaughter the uchiha clan and just told the leaf Naruto would have been a lot shorter
@Youngyacob2 жыл бұрын
@@freshprinceofgettingdisres2089 tell the leaf what? They already knew of a possible coup
@freshprinceofgettingdisres20892 жыл бұрын
@@Youngyacob well if hurizen wasn’t a bad hokage I guess Naruto would have been shorter
@ganuoo2 жыл бұрын
Plus Minato probably have experience fighting along side Fugaku.
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Both Minato and Itachi respected Killer Bee.
@susear59392 жыл бұрын
Everyone respects Bee. Those who don't, get disrespected by Bee. Case in point being Taka.
@veeramdeosinghrathore15332 жыл бұрын
@@susear5939 that was my favourite fight in all of naruto,it went in the direction that i really wanted but knew from anime watching experience could never happen but it did somehow and taka lost
@ShakespeareanBroncobuster2 жыл бұрын
@@susear5939 dude was one of ten, or so, people alive that could say they are one of the strongest in existence. Not a ton of people who are definitely stronger than him.
@VainFriggus2 жыл бұрын
Genius ninja respect a perfect jinchuriki???? No way!!!!
@VainFriggus2 жыл бұрын
They have no choice else he’d drop a diss track and end their career
@jjonahjameson999 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama created the flying raijin to defeat the uchihas... And Minato is using that... against an uchiha.
@krzysztofszuba18752 жыл бұрын
I do believe that Itachi's sickness is just fact he unlocked and used his MS a lot at such young age (he was 13 ) - his body probably couldn't handle the stress and chakra drain this required. For comparision - at the start of Naruto, Kakashi (an adult in his twenties) could only use normal sharingan very briefly and needed a lot of time to recuperate afterwards. Same with MS later in shippuden - a few uses and he's out.
@yoinkyeet6402 жыл бұрын
yeah but shisui unlocked the mangekyo at 7
@TannerWombat2 жыл бұрын
@@yoinkyeet640 but he didn’t use it and had a built in recoup time. I think the mass use of it is what helps support this idea.
@Some_Dude162 жыл бұрын
Kakashi is also not an Uchiha
@markusmikulas68062 жыл бұрын
Only problem with that argument is that Kakashi isn't an Uchiha, so the chakra drain for using sharingan for Kakashi is exponentially higher
@malachistice81112 жыл бұрын
@@markusmikulas6806 also that it's complete speculation
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Minato: I trained Kakashi. Itachi: I put Kakashi in the hospital.
@yellowflash58282 жыл бұрын
Kakashi wasn’t on Minato level tho! Minato would pack Itachi up! Minato would pack Pein up!
@hokage84262 жыл бұрын
in 1 second too 😂
@Itachi_Uchiha666-n7d2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowflash5828 sure bro? what if i trap him in a genjutsu before he even can react?
@Jmofromthebando72 жыл бұрын
@@Itachi_Uchiha666-n7d you must’ve not watched the video
@loukanjima-bechard71802 жыл бұрын
@@Itachi_Uchiha666-n7d 😂
@JT-km6th2 жыл бұрын
During the 3rd ninja war, the order given to rival villages was when you see Minato, run on sight. He will kill you and the 20people you came with, and he'd do it with a smile. He got that DAWG in him 😂
@Mgforshorttd8Ай бұрын
Actually run on site was before that war
@samiulshaon123419 күн бұрын
@@Mgforshorttd8no it wasn’t also the run on site order was only from the hidden stone
@Mgforshorttd819 күн бұрын
@ no it wasn’t that’s just the only village that was shown so yall just making it up
@Mgforshorttd819 күн бұрын
@ on till the creator actually says it or makes it canon
@blacewest59992 жыл бұрын
The reason Minato says he's no good at sage mode is simply because of how it affects his fighting style. For him, there's simply so much more he can do during the time it'd take him to collect nature chakra. We must also remember that this is a man who broke down one of the most complex jutsu in existence as a teen and spent 3 years creating a jutsu that he still wasn't satisfied with. The man is a perfectionist, hearing how the first used to eneter sage mode in an instant and never having reached that point himself is why he says this. in no way is it true because we see him enter sage mode without even visibly concentrating on collecting sage chakra. He just a humble dude really.
@gunplamaniac85002 жыл бұрын
he could enter Sage mode easily because at that time, he got half of Kurama gathering nature energy for him. (we seen Kurama doing this for Naruto)
@Jmofromthebando72 жыл бұрын
@@gunplamaniac8500 nah bro, your right about the Kurama part but it was not because of him why minato could use sage mode fast
@odibejuwah36022 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Frtggggg2 жыл бұрын
Wrong actually, minato said he is bad at sage mode because he cant get much nature energy, we saw that in war arc. He got in sage mode and used one normal rasengan and it wore off. Think abt naruto or jiraya who can spam massive rasengans and rasenshurikens in single sage mode
@Jmofromthebando72 жыл бұрын
@@Frtggggg umm no that’s wrong, he did say that he wasn’t good at it BUT that only because he’s comparing himself to the first hokages sm he literally used it in one second cmon now. And jiraya did not spam rasengans in sage mode stop cappinp
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Minato and Itachi had the highest test scores in the Chūnin Exams.
@HippoD5892 жыл бұрын
Tobirama would've been highest if Chunin exams were a thing in his time 🤞🏽
@kleatise522 жыл бұрын
Gaara
@oskarfalkstrom13462 жыл бұрын
@@neonicon8500 no he said in the Academy several times. Itachi was fastest in the second phase of chunin exams until Gaara showed up 👍
@Mchal-hf9zv2 жыл бұрын
@@kleatise52 i think they are talking about the test scores And imo Gaara isn't genius as Minato or Itachi
@oskarfalkstrom13462 жыл бұрын
@@neonicon8500 obviously did though haha
@TheRealKulFin Жыл бұрын
Established titles is a scam btw.
@davidburton9532 жыл бұрын
Mad props for the amount of effort and information you put into all of your videos. Your quality has legitimately caused an issue since I now demand this quality (which I won’t get) from all channels.
@thorn62_yt532 жыл бұрын
I know that's why I'm so glad he made his other channel the weeb commander cause he goes in depth about most other animes like he does with naruto
@patricklynch4074 Жыл бұрын
TRUE im the same. I binged his channel and realized the other narutubers dont keep up
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
If Minato can tag Itachi, then it's an Endgame
@FortStories-Media2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@UmthiBeauty2 жыл бұрын
yeah
@CristanioPeweyyy2 жыл бұрын
When Minato tags Itachi, then it's Endgame.
@goldcobraarima98192 жыл бұрын
Just teleport the Susanoo away...its a physical object afterall
@AuraMK32 жыл бұрын
Its too ez to minato to tag him so Itachi uses genjutsu if he has even enough time
@thebossman5470 Жыл бұрын
Your "for me" line is starting to become a "would you kindly" equivalent for myself. And I love its effect on how much I love your videos.
@braylenlevi32292 жыл бұрын
I think it also kinda depends on how the rules of Minato being able to teleport chakra like he did with the tailed beast bombs works in this situation. Cuz if he’s able teleport bits and pieces or even the whole sussano away then this really puts Itachi in a bind
@daiyanii_2 жыл бұрын
W pfp
@LuciferArc12 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if it's actually possible to do this as the susanoo is just an armor made of extremely dense chakra. I would say maybe for the impartial susanoo like just a rib cage but maybe not for a half or full susanoo
@dennismilburn64702 жыл бұрын
Very very good comment/observation
@braylenlevi32292 жыл бұрын
@@LuciferArc1 I’d agree with you if Minato didn’t teleport an entire Biju bomb which is lit just a giant ball of condensed chakra. Much like Minato’s rasengan which he based off said technique
@LuciferArc12 жыл бұрын
@@braylenlevi3229 true but we haven't seen him do it with a susanoo in particular I'd argue the susanoo, especially a complete one, is well above a biju bomb
@danieldensel36332 жыл бұрын
I really give this one a 50/50 shot. It's tough to call the fight decisively. Both of these two are the pinnacle of what ninjas should be without having a tailed beast.
@commonsense90762 жыл бұрын
How would itachi maintain the stalemate? He doesn’t have the stamina or the killing ability cause Minato has instant teleportation. Itachi will lose to exhaustion. Minato can even teleport and get a snack 😂
@WafleEnterprises2 жыл бұрын
Minato wins due to having superior reflexes, speed and a close enough battle IQ to counter Itachi’s. Itachi’s battle (and normal) IQ is most typically shown against people who either aren’t nearly as smart as him, or against people who are close to being as smart but are blinded by revenge or rage. Minato is arguably not quite as smart as Itachi, but comes very close. Close enough that in my opinion, there’s no valid argument in my eyes that Itachi could simply outsmart Minato.
@iamroshan48182 жыл бұрын
@@commonsense9076 itachi can find the weakness of flying raijin
@dunker8882 жыл бұрын
Idk what makes you think Minato is not as smart as Itachi
@commonsense90762 жыл бұрын
@@iamroshan4818 Itachi will die. Either from exhaustion or by Minato. This is just a bad matchup for him. Not just because FTG is broken but cause of the guy using the jutsu. What is it with itachi fans and not seeing logic? Minato is smarter than itachi with more combat experience, higher reflexes, extremely deadly with the ability instantly be where ever he wants. Y’all keep thinking he’s gonna pull a Naruto and run head first. He’s a tactics and combat genius. Itachi is also a tactics and combat genius but to a lesser degree cause he has to end the fight as quick as possible. Unlike Minato that can extend conflict to as long as he has to get a win. And that’s Itachis worst matchup. Genius guy that’s extremely good at combat with extremely high stamina that can prolong fights = Minato
@subhzgaming488227 күн бұрын
Itachi - don't look into my eyes Minato - then don't blink your eyes
@Babycam082 жыл бұрын
I never clicked on a video so fast! This is the fight every NARUTO fan wanted to see
@c-handle26762 жыл бұрын
This video is either going to get a ton of love or a LOT of disrespect, depending on what the endpoint is 🤣 folks love these two.
@Z3L7R0N Жыл бұрын
"Like an old Mac book" 😂 that was great. Loved the video.
@capihood45302 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot is that Minato could summon Gamabunta to counter Susano, not a win move but can also make Itachi waste even more chakra.
@dmansfile Жыл бұрын
But totsuka blade 1 taps him
@capihood4530 Жыл бұрын
@@dmansfile well... Too bad for Gamabunta, Itachi just wasted a ton of Chakra killing a toad lol
@iWreckzombies Жыл бұрын
@@dmansfiletotsuka blade has been deflected before so I don’t see why Gamabunta wouldn’t just parry totsuka blade and him and minato attack
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem to cost any chakra for Itachi's Susanoo to seal stuff, though. So, summoning at all would be worse than useless against him. You would permanently weaken yourself even if you survive the fight.
@donovan4222 Жыл бұрын
Summons don’t work on Itachi, because they are huge targets and one glimpse of Amaterasu and they are out of commission. Just like Sasuke did vs the 8 tails, or Itachi did vs Nagato summons.
@rahene2 жыл бұрын
Minato!!😂😂😂 No need to say why!! You did a excellent job sir. Great video 👏🏿
@kylemikewizowski3852 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, your analysis on this VS match was pretty on point. Honestly, they both have the battle IQ and ability to break down all of their jutsu and come up with unorthodox solutions to exploit whatever weaknesses the jutsu has but at the end of the day Minato can throw hands all day while itachi can only square up at lunch
@twontwon1827 Жыл бұрын
Not really what stops itachi from using amateretsu on minatos kunai it would stop his movements because minatos natural speed isnt that fast an itachi natural speed is . Ilsage mode for minato last s few secs so its an Ireland power in this fight because itachi would not give him that time to access it! Similar to how sasuke wouldnt let naruto use shadow clones . We have h2h feats for itachi but minato without flying rajin is a different story
@imalpha4471 Жыл бұрын
@@twontwon1827 you didn't just say Minato natural speed isn't fast lol
@twontwon1827 Жыл бұрын
@@imalpha4471 yea it really isnt that impressive dude its his ftg that makes him that fast and his reaction time not necessarily his base speed ! Unless u can prove it but from what i see and remember he doesnt have any amazing base speed feats ! Everything is with ftg !
@imalpha4471 Жыл бұрын
I ain't gonna waste my time showing you panels, just go re read the manga, you will see how wrong you are @@twontwon1827
@DavidLucian Жыл бұрын
Even if Itachi is basically a pacifist, that doesn't mean that he can't mobilize and adapt in an unnatural situation, especially if the confrontation is a serious one, he prefers most of the time to finish the fights as quickly as possible, that's why Itachi should never be underestimated. Itachi lived his whole life so that Sasuke could defeat him and become an Uchiha hero as well as a hero of the leaf. That, obviously, didn’t go as planned. However, it did allow Sasuke to grow and begin to start asking the right questions that would eventually lead him to becoming the man he (Itachi) wanted him to be. (Itachi was killed so that Sasuke could grow more powerful both as a character (to us in a real world moral sense) and as a Ninja. Itachi from the get go was extremely talented which more precisly means that Itachi just like Minato was pretty much an unique, authentic and especially unpredictable Shinobi which could exceed or overcome almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto himself) In my opinion No One in the series should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). That is why it is arguable/debatable that he probably could or could not defeat foes like Minato, Obito or Pain/Nagato. Itachi was also a prodigy from birth and he knew all sorts of tricks and he's definitely a troublesome fellow to encounter. In my opinion, they are both very versatile, unique, interesting and especially very unpredictable in their way of fighting style approach. If you make an effort to look or to rewatch at all of Itachi's fights, you might discover that he's pretty much always able to outsmart anyone during a fight or a encounter, because of his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach. His way of thinking and his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience factor it's very authentic and underrated, his true potential remain still unknown, because he wasn't go all out against anyone during the series.🤷🏻♂️☯️ I don't understand how some of you guys even dare or can to underestimate Itachi like that, many of you guys forget that Itachi isn't just any ordinary shinobi either, he is still considered by a very wide range of Naruto connoisseurs to be a very unique and unpredictable character at the same time and no one should underestimate him as some of you guys currently do. ;/ ☯️🤷🏻♂️What you have to remember, is that even in his battle with Sasuke, he has been fighting to lose. Itachi has always attempted to avoid conflict at all costs. He has to maintain his cover as an Akatsuki member, so he has to make viable excuses to avoid battle. When he says that fighting Jiraiya would have serious consequences, we know that he has an innate desire not to fight anyone at all, let alone a hero of the leaf, and he was a spy protecting Konoha from shadows. He could have killed Kakashi with ease. Kakashi even states that Itachi could have killed him, and wondered why he didn't. Knowing this, it is easy to see the pieces that point to a picture of Itachi that is devastatingly powerful in combat. In his confrontation with Asuma and Kurenai when he enters Konoha, we see him send Kurenai flying a large distance with a simple kick. We also see him deflect chidori, and snap Sasuke's arm like a twig with a single hand. He also sends Sasuke flying clear down the hallway with another kick in this fight. He is obviously a powerful, versatile, unpredictable and underrated taijutsu user. We know that he can kill with a glance using Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, and become nearly invincible with his Susanoo. We see him use exploding clones, (it's his one of his unpredictability in his fighting way approach) powerful genjutsu not linked to his sharingan, ( with a single point of a one of his fingers) and making hand seals at insane speeds. He kicks the shit out of Kakashi and he barely moves. Tobi also tells us himself that Itachi could have killed him if it weren't for carefully guarded secrets. Orochimaru beats Tsunade and Jiraiya without the use of his arms. Granted, Jiraiya was drugged, but it's still the point. Orochimaru couldn't use seals at all. Itachi obliterated Orochimaru effortlessly. Itachi has been a step above from the beginning. In order for him to keep his cover in Akatsuki, he had to avoid conflict without arousing suspicion, and the best way to do that was to present himself as being much less powerful than he actually is. The one thing we have been able to see in detail, is his intelligence and unpredictability in his fighting way approach. Itachi has been shown to be able to plan events years in advance, to account for possible flaws in his plans with powerful contingencies, and to use every possibility to his advantage. Shikamaru plans a few hours in advance, and we label him a tactical genius. If that is the case, what does one even call Itachi? The only real flaws that Itachi possesses is a smaller chakra reserves, and his own morality which keeps him from gaining Eternal Mangekyo. But even the chakra is arguable. The techniques we see him use are enormously powerful, and would therefor have a huge chakra cost. I'm not going to say he is the most powerful character in the anime, but I am going to say he is definitely very very high on that list, and probably higher than most people seem to give him credit for. Lastly but not least, Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. 🤷🏻♂️☯️✌️
@hitomiyuki32602 жыл бұрын
Small little detail you missed. When Sasuke made the comment about the susano making every cell in his body ache, he only had the ms. He didn’t get the ems until the beginning of the war
@rexill88192 жыл бұрын
but wat does it change, XD this information is not needed in this video he is talking about itachi who had ms only
@hitomiyuki32602 жыл бұрын
@@rexill8819 If you’re going to do something, you have to be accurate.
@rexill88192 жыл бұрын
@@hitomiyuki3260 but he wasnt wrong what do you mean XDDDDD
@rexill88192 жыл бұрын
@@hitomiyuki3260 your argument is driving on wheelchair
@hitomiyuki32602 жыл бұрын
@@rexill8819 he was wrong. He said Sasuke had end when he’s stated every cell in his body felt like it was burning. He had the regular ms, not ems. Sasuke didn’t get the ems until the war started. So to say he isn’t wrong isn’t actually true. I don’t hate the guy, however, he did get that part wrong. Whenever you’re going to do information based videos then it’s best to be accurate
@staticgaming562 жыл бұрын
Minto doesn’t necessarily need to break the Sosano since it’s made out of chakra he should be able to teleport it away, the same way he did with the biju bomb
@spicyboijohnny43602 жыл бұрын
But minato couldn’t blitz itachi so he wouldn’t even need susano
@pendexion29952 жыл бұрын
@@spicyboijohnny4360 he could blitz Itachi without it, that man is insanely fast
@jocoolshow2 жыл бұрын
@@spicyboijohnny4360 Itachi is slower than KCM1 Naruto and the 4th Raikage who are both relative to Minato’s reaction speed so Minato is blitzing him Itachi whine being forced to fight at full power was relative to a causal Naruto that was trying to talk rather than fight, while Naruto had to focus 100% of his power on blitzing the Raikage and using the body flicker which is a massive speed amping technique to dodge the Raikage
@spicyboijohnny43602 жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow never said itachi was slow just his Sharigan ain’t finna go for that blitzing bs If hiruzen was the strongest living hokage at that time that mean the raikage speed can be reacted too If they ain’t blitzing hiruzen they ain’t blitzing itachi
@josephhamori574 Жыл бұрын
@@spicyboijohnny4360 The perception of the sharingan isn't enough to keep up with minatos speed,it's a fact. Minato could blitz itachi faster than he could register a thought let alone active a jutsu and that's simply by wanting too.
@Blindcontroller Жыл бұрын
We’ve never even heard Minato fight a genjutsu user. We can’t assume a hokage doesn’t have resistance.
@kevinigweh8076 Жыл бұрын
Being a hokage doesn't necessarily mean he'll have some sort of resistance. Naruto is a hokage but he's easily the least genjitsu resistant character in the whole show😂 . I love my boy but he was really lucky Sasuke didn't use genjitsu is their fight. Fighting an Uchiha would be nightmare for him😂, he'll most likely still win tho😅
@Blindcontroller Жыл бұрын
@@kevinigweh8076 genjutsu is a waste of chakra on jinchuriki
@ruthlessslayer7067 Жыл бұрын
@@Blindcontroller tsukuyomi aint lmao that shit would kill u before kurama would even know ur in a genjutsu
@Blindcontroller Жыл бұрын
@@ruthlessslayer7067 who have you seen or heard successfully use it on a jinchuriki? It’s not even in a light novel.
@NarutosRasengan510 ай бұрын
@@Blindcontrollerthe only person to use genjustsu on a perfect jinchuriki was Obito which means his level of genjustsu is LITERALLY HIGHER THAN ITACHI’S lmfao Itachi fought that same jinchuriki Obito had under genjustsu and lose his first akatsuki partner and had to retreat…the mfka at his somewhat peak was losing to the 3rd weakest tailed beast minato would fold him and y’all need to cope🤣
@susu-tk7hp2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my first thought was the stamina as well Itachi is just not touching Minato all he has to do is run and teleport until Itachi can't keep his susanoo on anymore
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
If Minato is immune to Genjutsu like the Fourth Raikage, then Minato wins.
@rinuchiha69612 жыл бұрын
The Fourth Raikage was placed in a genjutsu by Madara. A simple but powerful genjutsu
@frogfarmer35512 жыл бұрын
So far, only Sasuke ever countered Itachi's tsukoyomi and one could argue he let him break it. If kakashi couldn't resist it, and regular Shar genjutsu could beat orochimaru, there's no reason to think anyone without MS could counter it
@shadowslayer99882 жыл бұрын
@@rinuchiha6961 That is the thing Madara put him in the genjustu one of the most powerful Sharigan users.
@malachistice81112 жыл бұрын
@@shadowslayer9988 you are aware of itachi's genjutsu prowess right?
@rkeazazel21632 жыл бұрын
@@malachistice8111 don’t forget that minato was raised in a time where the uchiha existed so I would guess that minato has fought uchiha before and would know about their basic abilities. I almost forgot about the fact that minato has perfected sage mode which would allow him to sense any sharingan jutsu as he would see the chakra build-up, minato would also get a physical amp that would make him stronger than the night of the 9-tails raid and if base minato beats obito he definitely beats itachi.
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
What if Minato knew of Itachi's sickness and waited for the illness to kill Itachi?
@onioni14962 жыл бұрын
Itachi would kill him with his totsuka blade if he tried to wait it out
@billiondavid2 жыл бұрын
@@onioni1496 He's not touching someone who teleports.
@onioni14962 жыл бұрын
@@billiondavid makes sense
@donovandacosta22762 жыл бұрын
minato stated to naruto that obito was stronger than pain and both are stronger than itachi and minato beat obito without using sage mode
@bengalbrown28342 жыл бұрын
Waiting for someone to die from illness isn’t what one would call a death battle.
@anthonyjackson63542 жыл бұрын
Minato CAN break through Itachi’s Susanoo. He would have to attack the same place consecutively. And as smart as he is, i’m sure he and Itachi would figure that out as well
@Violate..2 жыл бұрын
Minato cant break susanoo unless he is in sage mode he can start to make the cracks with rasengan but minato isnt good at gathering much sage mode chakra it wares off after 1 rasengan
@ze4980 Жыл бұрын
Kishimoto realized how you guys are trying to downgrade Minato so he release a manga that explained to us how strong Minato was. Even at age 15, Kurama compared Minato to Hashirama
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
When Itachi was 7, he thought like a Hokage.
@Suko442 жыл бұрын
Minato is literally the youngest hokage ever
@ayodejiogundeji82742 жыл бұрын
@@Suko44 inaccurate
@minatonamikaze38622 жыл бұрын
@@Suko44 Hiruzen was
@jashaskarbarman2 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about Minato's chakra level being on par with tail beasts bcoz of the reaper death seal.... Finally someone spoke about that
@a-arons43642 жыл бұрын
But at the same time he used flying raijin only a handful of times the night he died and it was stated by both obito and minato that he was on the last bit of chakra he had left, so while he has a lot of chakra flying raijin uses a ton of chakra also confirmed by the second and the leaf ninja that had to combine chakra to use it just once. Honestly his bias to minato was a little apparent
@dogsaregods47712 жыл бұрын
@A-Aron S Considering how death reaper seal works it makes sense tho? No? He honestly should have more than half of kuramas Chakra considering the events of that night. His admission of being on his last Chakra legs prior to successfully sealing half of kurama only bolsters his argument too
@quentinjones68772 жыл бұрын
Yeah he used flying raijin 3 or 4 times that night plus he used a rasengan and reaper death seal
@a-arons43642 жыл бұрын
Except the sealing of a tailed beast itself doesn't require a lot of chakra and the only requirement to who it can be sealed in is the persons total possible chakra available not what they have available at that time. So the only chakra he really used was for the activation of the reaper death seal and since tailed beasts don't have actual physical bodies or souls it only required minatos life not much chakra.
@tronortron2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where its stated that you can only pull the amount of chakra that you yourself have?
@squilliamfancyson3552 Жыл бұрын
pretty in depth and good video man, should make more of these type of videos
@kanoreese1253 Жыл бұрын
Best genjutsu is Jiraiya's Demonic Toad Chant. It's unblockable, works on hundreds at a time, works on the dead and can't be broken out of.
@Yusufsanad8 ай бұрын
Itachi Broke it
@thedevilman.2 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this one battle for a LOONG LONG time.
@DannyDangereux Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best Naruto channel on KZbin
@makkavalley91442 жыл бұрын
"This is a very broken ability"🤣 Idk if you were making a joke or not but you explaining Minato's speed made me laugh out loud
@leonelleonelccano80112 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect Minato to have that much shakra and strong stamina but it makes so much sense and very logical. Minato is literally a shinobi god along with Hagaromo, Hashirama, and his son, but Itachi is one of my faves and nothing to scuffs off. One of the best anime character, both of them are the most loveable character in the verse.
@natsusatsujinki83422 жыл бұрын
Nah dude. Madara,Hashirama and 3rd Hokage are the only ones. Minato was just talented at a young age.
@obsidianquill79492 жыл бұрын
@@natsusatsujinki8342 Minato is actually supposed to be faster than the 3rd hokage in base form. With KCM he would be unbelievably fast. The 3rd hokage would not stand a chance. Also notice that everyone was waiting for minato to arrive during the fight against the 9 tails even though the 3rd hokage was supposed to be in charge since minato was with kushina.
@natsusatsujinki83422 жыл бұрын
@@obsidianquill7949 bad writing. I find it hard to believe the 3rd couldn't handle the 9 tails when a sick Orochimaru handled 9 tails at 4 tails.
@obsidianquill79492 жыл бұрын
@@natsusatsujinki8342 then why didn’t he? Minato was not supposed to be leading the attack against the 9 tails.
@slickricky7692 жыл бұрын
All I am saying, if Minato stayed being Hokage, Pain would never have attacked the village...
@mish69372 жыл бұрын
once Minato manages to get a flying raijin mark on Itachi, it's fight over. he can just teleport inside the Susano and slit his throat. also Minato had a seal that was powerful enough to sever the connection between Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan and Kurama so i wonder how that could also work on Itachi
@kreznevligas69132 жыл бұрын
I just love these two characters. Both talented and with good heart.
@Squidlark2 жыл бұрын
Itachi is a school shooter.
@jocoolshow2 жыл бұрын
Sage Mode Minato is probably blowing away the Susanoo. Keep in mind, Naruto’s initial Rasenshuriken output was considered to be on par with Minato’s regular damage output. Then putting a Sage Mode amp on top of that
@tomekszarek7438 Жыл бұрын
May i know the source of this information?
@lifeofentropy Жыл бұрын
Naruto with sage mode and rasenshuriken is implied to weaker than ms sasuke. Sasuke doesn't surpass itachi till he gets his ems. If what you say is true about Narutos initial Rasenshuriken being on par with minato(I don't remember it) the there's no way Minato is scratching the Susanoo
@ashwinchamp9354 Жыл бұрын
@@lifeofentropy what? How is sage mode weaker than ms? That's just bs. Naruto in sage mode was comparable to a rinnegan user lol. Pain > Itachi btw
@lifeofentropy Жыл бұрын
@@ashwinchamp9354 pain and itachi are relative as seen in their edo fight. Obito feared itachi the most out of any other Akatsuki member. Also Naruto did pretty fuckin badly against the pains. Like worse than Jiraiya and Naruto had Intel. If it weren't for him going crazy tailed beast mode he would not have won. Sasukes fight against Itachi was a lot more impressive than Narutos against Pain. And then Sasuke got a massive power boost and fought the raikage, someone Naruto only surpassed when he unlocked kcm 1.
@ashwinchamp9354 Жыл бұрын
@@lifeofentropy How are they relative? It was just nagato without his six paths and it still needed Itachi + kcm Naruto + bee. The six paths version of nagato is ezily stronger.
@xavierelmhorst1452 жыл бұрын
It's believed that kotomatsukami is similar to kamui in the sense that both abilities while having the same name work differently similar to how when Danzo used kotomatsukami it clearly wasn't as strong as when Shisui used it in the light novels to make someone commit suicide. The right eye being the once per day and the left eye being the 10-year cool down.
@toe_sucker_4165 Жыл бұрын
He didn't make the guy commit suicide, he had a ROOT seal.
@jmtexx2 жыл бұрын
Minato using his kunai to test out susanos durability😂
@OVOBartholomew Жыл бұрын
Itachi is the Chuck Norris of anime.
@Mangaka-Knight2 жыл бұрын
I've been asked this question before regarding a versus match between Minato and Itachi and your conclusion was the same answer I gave them. The determining factor is stamina. The only way Itachi is going to win is if he attempts to ends the fight as soon as possible. A long dragged out fight between the two would end in Itachi's defeat and for Minato, he wouldn't have anything in his arsenal to beat Itachi except the Flying Raijin and if he couldn't get through the Susanoo, then he would have to drag the fight out.
@Beam672 жыл бұрын
Minato moves instantaneously, all he needs to do is teleport around until he can touch itachi, at which point he can one shot him with a literal kunai in an instant…. Whenever he wants….. theres literally nothing itachi would be able to do abt it
@Frtggggg2 жыл бұрын
Stamina isnt issue, itachi wins right away cause tsukyomi, normal genjutsu and finger genjutsu. Minatos sage mode is bad like he said cause he cant gather much nature energy and cant make sage mode last long enough, we saw that in war arc when he got in sage mode and used one normal rasengan and it wore off. Think abt naruto and jiraya who can spam massive rasengans and rasenshurikens in single sage mode. Genjutsu wins this fight
@jeromenicholson7432 жыл бұрын
I really like how he brakes down everything. They can beat each other, it simply depends on how they fight. I also forgot, Tsukiyomi apparently was stated/shown to work in like 0.00000001 of a sec. Unless he fights with his eyes closed the whole time, which I doubt, Minato probably will need to go into Sage mode before the battle begins, or try set something up, beforehand, considering it’s potential speed. But they’re also both geniuses, so itachi could set stuff up too. Dude literally known for beating people before they’ve realized it. Logically speaking both Flying Raijin and Tsukiyomi’s speed is absurdly fast and beyond ridiculous lol. This would be a very interesting fight.
@plfui2 жыл бұрын
@@Frtggggg The video literally talks about how genjutsu would do nothing since Minato has no reason to look into Itachi’s eyes..
@TandJgaming2 жыл бұрын
If tsunade can crack a perfect susanoo from madara then minato can find a way to break itachis legless susanoo
@solarflare19542 жыл бұрын
Had no idea Minato had that much chakra. Although with Itachi's susanoos weakness of not having a defense against attacks from below couldn't you just do a jutsu like double suicide decapitation and travel underground? Just a thought.
@leonelleonelccano80112 жыл бұрын
Me too and strong stamina but it makes so much sense and very logical Minato is literally a shinobi god, but Itachi is one of my faves and nothing to scuffs of both of them are the most loveable character.
@IceflknАй бұрын
25:15 No he did NOT kill 1,000 warriors, he simply made them retreat. Even so, All he has to do is place his mark on Itachi and it's game over.
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Can't we just be glad that Minato and Itachi exist?
@shottyllama44832 жыл бұрын
I mean they used 2😪
@xvingar63182 жыл бұрын
Fr
@coltizz2 жыл бұрын
No! It’s like the lion and tiger debate we have to argue who wins in a fight. Tiger is stronger and faster. The lion is more used to fighting and got protective armor around the neck. Now let’s argue who wins even tho there are multiple cases of both killing each other.
@yukotrey94222 жыл бұрын
One thing I wanna bring up is the the Yata mirror is that it’s explained very similar to a truth seeking orb, and the only thing that can break one is senjutsu. That means you could argue that senjutsu cuz just crack the yata mirror. Just a cool interaction to me.
@YogeshwarGorantla Жыл бұрын
That actually makes sense
@AnimeFridays2 ай бұрын
Would be so awesome to get a Minato tv show or movie at least
@soupsnorter2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with a lot of your analysis, and I really like this style of video! Just thinking through their skills and not doing any big long power scaling, I think I agree than Minato would take it more times than not, I think it's a situation where both of them are smart enough that if they knew the others abilities going in and the other didn't they'd win, but Minato's abilities give him more time to figure out Itachi's abilities in the heat of battle
@spicyboijohnny43602 жыл бұрын
Not really itachi isn’t that low compare to minato he did take on killer bee,nagato,and kcm naruto (fastest person that ever lived)
@user-ue6ur5nt5z Жыл бұрын
@@spicyboijohnny4360 he only took on killer bee and naruto with the help of nagato, he never fought bee, naruto, and nagato solo. He did fight nagato with the help of bee and naruto though.
@kibuki91 Жыл бұрын
If I remember right, there's somewhere in the manga that either states directly or implies that enough speed beats most Genjutsu (as you're too fast to be caught by a user/fast enough to interrupt them casting it), and with the Sharingan-specific genjutsus, they require eye contact, which Minato typically avoided at high speed. That and the fact most genjutsus can be Kai'd, and given that his chakra reserves clearly outclass Itachi's, I don't think Genjutsu would have been a viable option for Itachi to use and he would know this. Minato probably had the greatest reserves of chakra the Leaf has seen before his son. Given that Hashirama was roughly equal to half of Kurama's chakra, and Minato (while drained/not at max output) was still able to rip half of the 9Tails's chakra out, meaning his max capacity was actually greater than half of Kurama's total chakra. That's pretty insane for one man to have. And then he has Sage Mode on top of that, which tbh he probably wouldn't use seeing as he was pretty bad at collecting sen chakra... and the clone thing is a rather innovative way Naruto came up with, being a shadow clone specialist. I personally place Itachi as losing, but it wouldn't be an easy win for Minato. It would be a war of attrition. Could his Susano'o outlast a barrage from a man whose speed surpasses "Shisui of the Flicker," with his disease cutting away at him? And we can infer that incomplete Susano'o users are susceptible to attacks from below (i.e, Madara during the War). As it stands, Itachi was in no condition to take on the Yondaime, imo, who died in his prime through self-sacrifice, not through being murdered or through disease.
@kaox44 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, we came to the same conclusion. BRAVO!!!! Speed kills in the world of Naruto.
@official.blaze21 Жыл бұрын
“I would have a tattoo of Itachi if I had the space” Gets one on his thigh 🤣
@AnshSingh-xx8is Жыл бұрын
Minato also has summoning contract with gamabunta and he also has stronger version of flying ryjin that we didn't see so teleporting a whole susaano is no problem .
@CH1LLS. Жыл бұрын
The question is would itachi teleport with the sussano and could minato teleport parts of the sussano like the yata mirror or totsuka blade?
@Dragonmaster2009 Жыл бұрын
that’s a interesting question
@dragondrakage2402 Жыл бұрын
To clarify, minato says he's not good at sage mode because it only lasts for 1 atk. Which is also shown when he uses it in the war arc.
@sumanthmeruga630 Жыл бұрын
& To clarify when naruto rasengans obito he's sage mode lasts for one attack. Senjutsu counters minato fight style. He had very precise chakra control.
@dragondrakage2402 Жыл бұрын
@Sumanth Meruga u do realize minato actually says that and his sage mode even as an edo only lasts for 1 atk
@sumanthmeruga630 Жыл бұрын
@@dragondrakage2402 I follow manga bro.. and tell the ep no I'll re-watch and get back to you
@dragondrakage2402 Жыл бұрын
@@sumanthmeruga630 he says it in the manga lol
@dragondrakage2402 Жыл бұрын
@Sumanth Meruga don't remember the chapter but I believe it's when madara is revived, and naruto and Sasuke r out of commission
@bearieroblox64513 ай бұрын
He doesn’t need to beat it’s his susanoo, he just needs to teleport it away like he did with kurama, many spots would itchy in a susanoo, bottom of the ocean, mt myoboku road oil waterfall
@itsmesteve1081 Жыл бұрын
Itachi said Fugaku was his worst possible match up while he was committing the uchiha massacre. Its possible if fugaku fought back against itachi he could have lost. Fugaku was touted to be just as strong as Minato. During the third great ninja world war. He was also declared as a run on sight to his enemies just like Minato. Personally, i think its safe to say Minato has the upper hand - ever so slightly. Plus it was later revealed that Minaro actually has perfect nine tails transformation AND perfect sage mode.... Yes, no amount of tsukiyomi could hypnotize minato.
@orpheus0108 Жыл бұрын
Tsukuyomi can only be broken by sharingan kekkei genkai.Sharingan kekkei genkai could control the tailed beasts. Minato countering tsukuyomi is no happening
@mightysins3842 Жыл бұрын
Fugaku was believed to equal minato with just his regular sharingan. Nobody knew how strong he actually was with his ms. I wouldn't be surprised of he's stronger then minato and itachi still felt he could beat him.
@andreleandro6931 Жыл бұрын
@@orpheus0108exactly. The people are underestimating Tsukuyomy very hard, no way Minato can win the fight if he gets caugh
The way you explain things really hooked me. I like the explanation of each character skill set and putting them into a battle between them without involving "small island, city level, multiversal threat" into the mix. Also you ooze with passion for the series. Incredible video mate ❤️
@noname-vl2ys6 ай бұрын
Well you forgot that minato also has terrible stamina.He used like twenty one jutsus, against/versus obito, before heavy breathing.That is about equal to itachi's stamina which used about eleven jutsu, during his fight with sasuke.
@godshideout400Ай бұрын
If Itachi could control and summon Kurama that would make this a lot more interesting.
@tinyrick29212 жыл бұрын
Simply put, Minato would out-chakra and out-stamina Itachi. But what insane battle it would be, a battle of sheer power and genius level intellect.
@donovan4222 Жыл бұрын
Idk about that, Minato is fast and has teleportation, but Itachi is probably pretty close in speed and has way more attack power, and better defenses. And battle IQ is pretty much equal, so neither one is fooling the other. So it’s not out of the question that Itachi knows he doesn’t have stamina and would try to end the fight quickly.
@andreleandro6931 Жыл бұрын
Can Minato get out of the Tsukuyomy?
@tevinvezina17662 жыл бұрын
I feel like Itachi is a combination of talent and lots of hard work. We’ve seen how much he prioritized training, even at a young age. If Itachi pulled off a crazy tactic in battle, it’s more than likely that he had previously practiced that specific move plenty of times. When he scored the second highest Chunin exam score, he was most likely trying hard to score the highest. On the other hand, Minato has that effortless genius vibe about him - almost like a combination of talent and luck! Look how nonchalantly he flexed perfected sage mode. If he thinks of a tactic in mid-battle, even if it seems ridiculous to even try, it’s more than likely he can pull it off. I bet when he scored the highest Chunin exam score he was just taking the test and happened to get the best score.
@yclxgxicijgxlyclglgi87272 жыл бұрын
Itachi's natural genius is just as high look how easily he moved up the ranks as a child he trained but his genius is what solidify him as talented and hard working as Sasuke was kid itachi was much more impressive
@LOLtribune2 жыл бұрын
@@yclxgxicijgxlyclglgi8727 only point with Sasuke is that he wasn't as nurtured as Itachi was and even then was still extremely smart later on, both Minato and Itachi would've trained just as much as each other btw just because you don't have Minato training montages doesn't mean it didn't happen people don't just be that strong even hashirama only got strong through battle and training.
@tevinvezina17662 жыл бұрын
@@yclxgxicijgxlyclglgi8727 If Itachi's genius is just as high, why didn't he score the same on the Chunin exams? Minato scored higher for a reason.
@sasori74382 жыл бұрын
@@tevinvezina1766 they were children when they took the exams. All the experience that Itachi got from the anbu and the akatsuki is either equal to/greater than the experiences Minato went through during the war.
@tevinvezina17662 жыл бұрын
@@sasori7438 Intelligence and experience are not the same thing. You can be born gifted in intelligence but you can't be born with experience. All this says to me is that even as children Minato was more intelligent than Itachi.
@marcioabreu11505 ай бұрын
As someone who loves both characters I gotta say if we're gonna take away Itachis illness it's only fair to give Minato the other half of kuruma too
@cataclysm79352 жыл бұрын
You forgot about ephemeral, the genjutsu itachi cast on Naruto without looking at him, he pointed a finger. If he caught minato in that, potentially minato opens his eyes and then itachi can cast Tsukuyomi, or hit him with Amaterasu while minato is immobilized. Even if minato breaks out of it in half a second, that’s enough time for Amaterasu to cast given itachi’s speed, if not he can just hit minato with some kind of jutsu in that time to kill or severely injure him if he can’t get in range for Amaterasu EDIT: it’s hard to say anything about Ephemeral though, we know next to nothing about the jutsu. We know nothing about cast time, speed, range, power, etc etc. As far as I know at least, there may be databook info on it that I’m not aware of. Minato has no Dojutsu and thus wouldn’t see the Chakra gathering in his finger to cast it, and as smart as minato his, I don’t think anyone would be expecting a genjutsu to be cast out of a finger point unless you saw Itachi cast it before.
@eventhorizon72672 жыл бұрын
Good one
@malikumarisrarawan2 жыл бұрын
not possible boss because minato never stays at same spot for more than few mili seconds plus sage mode minato cannot be put into genjustsu if he has Maa and Paa with him which he clearly can summon as he was the summoner of gamabunta he missed minato using food cart destroyer technique when he summoned gamabunta on top of kurama.
@lilkay22462 жыл бұрын
@@malikumarisrarawan 1. Minato doesn’t use sage mage mode while alive he states himself as edo that it takes him a while for the nature energy too build not to mention when he does use sm as edo it doesn’t last at all in the manga if he really could use it efficiently he would have used it when obito attacked the village and 2. No that’s not true either Minato stops and thinks in his fights he’s not just constantly moving with FTG he literally stopped mid fight with obito and thought of who he potentially was and even asked him if he was madara so he’s not always moving same deal when he fought Ay and Killer bee he was talking to them multiple times so there’s a very good chance he gets caught in genjutsu because without prior knowledge of itachi’s Fighting style which in almost every case shown is some type of genjutsu manipulation from the very moment of initial contact / direct eye contact so if itachi is serious by the time Minato realizes that he’s in a genjutsu and that’s a big IF depending on how itachi uses it it would be over
@lumberjackagies51582 жыл бұрын
@@lilkay2246 itachi catches minato in tsukoyomi, then he realises its a shadow clone and realises he wasted his one day ability on a clone. This is also another possible outcome 😁 Itachi can't tell difference between clones as shown in second encounter with kakashi. Meanwhile minato can tell a shadow clone from original by his sensory abilities. Minato can hide from itachi, itchi can't hide from minato. I don't understand why people always assume the battle will be both of then diving head first into the fight.
@nonameneeded29432 жыл бұрын
@@lumberjackagies5158 since when was it shown sage mode can determine shadow clones? And since when has minato done the shadow clone trick? U can't just take methods others characters do and making it seem like Minato would do the same
@slimm2k4662 жыл бұрын
I think you left out a couple key things about Itachi. 1. He has Kotoamatsukami in his Crow that he can activate and use on Minato even if Minato is not looking. (Everyone leaves this out when they do a fight with Itachi for some reason). 2. We have to remember Itachi put Naruto in a genjutsu with his finger. He can cast them without looking into his eyes. Yes, Minato might be able to fight without looking but he has to look at some point rather that's when they first approach eachother or some other time there would be an opportunity to cast Tsukuyomi. Plus would Minato even know not to look into his eyes? Guy only knew because he trained with Kakashi regularly. And even if he did know he wouldnt know not to look at his finger or any other body part assuming Itachi can genjutsu from any part, and if his eyes were closed Kotoamatsukami doesn't require you to look into the eye for it to work. My opinion, this fight can go either way depending how they play thier cards.
@challengeaccepted88352 жыл бұрын
1. the crow that used koto on naruto directly made eyecontact w naruto. like they make it a whole scene that naruto looks and it switches to the crow looking at naruto. this makes it pretty much indirictly tells us that they have to make eyecontact with it. 2. naruto was able to break out of that genjustsu. Would be a little dishonest to say that minato wouldnt be able to. this is beginning of shippuden naruto btw. Also if it was that effective why didnt he use it on someone like kabuto who litreally cut off all vision and hearing just to mitigate his genjutsu. That would seem like a perfect situatiion to use that genjutsu but he made it seem that izanmi was the only possible way to genjutsu kabuto. Not to mention obito who was just before fighting minato was able to control the 9 tails using his base sharingan btw, (idk maybe the creator was just trying to keep the audience from knowing he had a mangekyo so take that with a grain of salt. point still stands) didnt just simply genjutsu minato or even bring it up despite the fact minato didnt try to avoid his eyesight or atleast didnt specifically state that. So by saying that itachis finger genjutsu would be effective against minato would pretty much be saying that him pointing is stronger than obito who has genjutsu strong enough to control the 9 tails and future obito who somehow was able to put a full jinjuriky in a genjutsu so extreme it was like he was a puppet. (This technically is the second best genjutsu feat in the show tbh behind the infinite tsukuyomi, but its lowkey a plot hole n obv the show implys that itachi is a better genjutsu user than obito) 3. in character minato probably knows about uchihas and visual genjutsu but yes to be fair even if he did know theres a strong chance minato looks at him in the eye. thats the main win condition for itachi is minato looking him in the eye. Thats the most likely way of itachi winning in my opinion
@slimm2k4662 жыл бұрын
@@challengeaccepted8835 Kotoamatsukami was never used on Naruto. Itachi placed the Crow in Naruto with the intent of it being used on Sasuke, but it ended up activating on Edo Itachi. If it was used on Naruto it wouldn't have happened here since there is a 10 year cool down. Kotoamatsukami does not require eye Contact which what makes it so dangerous and the fact the person does not know they are under a genjutsu. Remember Donzo had bandages over his eye and still casted it on Mifune. Naruto was not able to break out by himself. He was trying and Sakura and chiyo had to break him out. When he fought Kabuto you have to remember Kishimoto had decided to make Itachi a good guy. He was not trying to kill Kabuto. Izanami was used to make him good again (as we see in Boruto) and while trapped in it, He was able to make Kabuto break the reanimation. And if you're referring to finger genjutsu Kabuto was more skilled then Naruto when it comes to breaking Genjutsu so he would have been able to break a basic genjutsu like that unlike Naruto. If you're referring to Kotoamatsukami, it was already used on Itachi and the eye was destroyed by Itachi. I mean tbh that genjutsu that Obito has might not have been a thing at the time of that fight. Kishimoto added and changed alot over the course of writing that it left alot of plot holes. Like Kotoamatsukami is implied to be the strongest genjutsu, but as you said Obitos mysterious genjutsu is able to pretty much do the same exact thing better and with no cool down. But maybe the finger genjutsu would not have worked on Minato. I assume but could be wrong that if itachi can use a basic genjutsu with his finger, he can Tsukuyomi with his finger and the only way to break out of that is having a strong enough Sharingan. In that fight with Naruto he said he didn't use Tsukuyomi because he wasn't able to at that moment. Which is probably because it was fake itachi. And I agree with your last point. I think it would have been a good fight that could have went either way
@user-ue6ur5nt5z Жыл бұрын
Koto is a great arguement. Finger genjutsu is not. Genjutsu has levels to it and obviously mangekyou genjutsu is the top tier, (not including tsukoyomi and the specific mangekyou abilities, just the upgraded version of base sharingan genjutsu). Sharingan genjutsu seems like it takes kage level chakra control to dispell (solo) or it might even be impossible solo. (Depending on the user too I guess). But the finger genjutsu is *not* a sharingan genjutsu, nor is it a mangekyou genjutsu. It is a genjutsu that uses other senses besides the eyes to apply a genjutsu, and based on what we've seen in the anime, most non ocular genjutsu can easily be dispelled solo. Kabuto's feather genjutsu was dispelled by genin. (Sakura, shikamaru) for example. No way a super easy to perform genjutsu like the finger genjutsu is on the level of ocular genjutsus, if it was as potent then itachi could've just spammed it.
@annettevarela7507 Жыл бұрын
@@challengeaccepted8835 na cuz danzo used koto on that one guy at the 5 kage summit meeting without eye contact
@annettevarela7507 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ue6ur5nt5z na finger genjutsu effects the eyes naruto night as well have taken 10 hits of acid when he was under that shit
@A.I.Truths Жыл бұрын
Ima just say this, Minato washed a guy who had the most broken offense and defense. He beat someone who had the ability to unconsciously become intangible… itachi is a goat but for me, Minato is HIM
@confusedindividual Жыл бұрын
Minato vs. Itachi, even when restricting the versions of them to Naruto’s birthday Minato and sophomore Akatsuki Itachi, can vary dramatically depending on pre-battle circumstances. Since we’re talking about characters whose greatest asset is their minds as opposed to any weapons in their arsenal or how their physical bodies and chakra reserves are, the importance of what they do before the fight even starts cannot be understated. How much do they know about each other going in? Itachi might have an edge simply because he’s from the generation after Minato’s prime and therefore has more extensive information to examine as opposed to Minato at most only knowing about the first six years of Itachi’s life - the majority of which is completely irrelevant for the purposes of a death match. If the history of warfare has taught us anything, it’s that most high-level battles are determined before they start. Obviously, allowances have to be made for unpredictable occurrences and quality of execution, but good preparation going in goes a long way. There is no version of this fight that I can think of where Itachi isn’t better prepared than Minato. Even if you don’t allow them any actual prep time, Itachi would still know more about Minato than Minato does about him. Once Itachi knows he’s up against Flying Raijin, he’s not making any big attacks with Susano’o or Amaterasu. He’s going to use Minato’s lack of knowledge about him to bait Minato into giving him an opening. Now, how likely is this to happen? Probably a toss-up. Itachi would have to nail his first opportunity to win too because as we’ve seen with Minato’s fight with Obito, even an obscure and unreal ability like Kamui is almost completely worthless when trying it on him a second or third time. Itachi basically needs to create a scenario where he can insta-kill Minato before Minato can even comprehend that it’s time to use Flying Raijin. The totsuka blade is certainly capable of that but the formation of Susano’o probably takes longer than Minato’s reaction time and a big object is easier to perceive coming in. If Itachi does kill Minato, it’s probably with something as simple as a kunai. So, yeah. Minato vs. Itachi? I have it as a straight fifty-fifty shot either way. Itachi has a moderate scouting advantage with a slightly higher battle IQ but Minato is significantly better-equipped. There’s no way Itachi fights Minato if he doesn’t have to but since he does here, that’s my analysis.
@DavidLucian Жыл бұрын
Even if Itachi is basically a pacifist, that doesn't mean that he can't mobilize and adapt in an unnatural situation, especially if the confrontation is a serious one, he prefers most of the time to finish the fights as quickly as possible, that's why Itachi should never be underestimated. Itachi lived his whole life so that Sasuke could defeat him and become an Uchiha hero as well as a hero of the leaf. That, obviously, didn’t go as planned. However, it did allow Sasuke to grow and begin to start asking the right questions that would eventually lead him to becoming the man he (Itachi) wanted him to be. (Itachi was killed so that Sasuke could grow more powerful both as a character (to us in a real world moral sense) and as a Ninja. Itachi from the get go was extremely talented which more precisly means that Itachi just like Minato was pretty much an unique, authentic and especially unpredictable Shinobi which could exceed or overcome almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto himself) In my opinion No One in the series should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). That is why it is arguable/debatable that he probably could or could not defeat foes like Minato, Obito or Pain/Nagato. Itachi was also a prodigy from birth and he knew all sorts of tricks and he's definitely a troublesome fellow to encounter. In my opinion, they are both very versatile, unique, interesting and especially very unpredictable in their way of fighting style approach. If you make an effort to look or to rewatch at all of Itachi's fights, you might discover that he's pretty much always able to outsmart anyone during a fight or a encounter, because of his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach. His way of thinking and his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience factor it's very authentic and underrated, his true potential remain still unknown, because he wasn't go all out against anyone during the series.🤷🏻♂️☯️ I don't understand how some of you guys even dare or can to underestimate Itachi like that, many of you guys forget that Itachi isn't just any ordinary shinobi either, he is still considered by a very wide range of Naruto connoisseurs to be a very unique and unpredictable character at the same time and no one should underestimate him as some of you guys currently do. ;/ ☯️🤷🏻♂️What you have to remember, is that even in his battle with Sasuke, he has been fighting to lose. Itachi has always attempted to avoid conflict at all costs. He has to maintain his cover as an Akatsuki member, so he has to make viable excuses to avoid battle. When he says that fighting Jiraiya would have serious consequences, we know that he has an innate desire not to fight anyone at all, let alone a hero of the leaf, and he was a spy protecting Konoha from shadows. He could have killed Kakashi with ease. Kakashi even states that Itachi could have killed him, and wondered why he didn't. Knowing this, it is easy to see the pieces that point to a picture of Itachi that is devastatingly powerful in combat. In his confrontation with Asuma and Kurenai when he enters Konoha, we see him send Kurenai flying a large distance with a simple kick. We also see him deflect chidori, and snap Sasuke's arm like a twig with a single hand. He also sends Sasuke flying clear down the hallway with another kick in this fight. He is obviously a powerful, versatile, unpredictable and underrated taijutsu user. We know that he can kill with a glance using Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, and become nearly invincible with his Susanoo. We see him use exploding clones, (it's his one of his unpredictability in his fighting way approach) powerful genjutsu not linked to his sharingan, ( with a single point of a one of his fingers) and making hand seals at insane speeds. He kicks the shit out of Kakashi and he barely moves. Tobi also tells us himself that Itachi could have killed him if it weren't for carefully guarded secrets. Orochimaru beats Tsunade and Jiraiya without the use of his arms. Granted, Jiraiya was drugged, but it's still the point. Orochimaru couldn't use seals at all. Itachi obliterated Orochimaru effortlessly. Itachi has been a step above from the beginning. In order for him to keep his cover in Akatsuki, he had to avoid conflict without arousing suspicion, and the best way to do that was to present himself as being much less powerful than he actually is. The one thing we have been able to see in detail, is his intelligence and unpredictability in his fighting way approach. Itachi has been shown to be able to plan events years in advance, to account for possible flaws in his plans with powerful contingencies, and to use every possibility to his advantage. Shikamaru plans a few hours in advance, and we label him a tactical genius. If that is the case, what does one even call Itachi? The only real flaws that Itachi possesses is a smaller chakra reserves, and his own morality which keeps him from gaining Eternal Mangekyo. But even the chakra is arguable. The techniques we see him use are enormously powerful, and would therefor have a huge chakra cost. I'm not going to say he is the most powerful character in the anime, but I am going to say he is definitely very very high on that list, and probably higher than most people seem to give him credit for. Lastly but not least, Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. 🤷🏻♂️☯️✌️
@thanatoes5379 ай бұрын
What's with the whole essay lmao. The guy never said Itachi was bad or overrated. It's just that Minato's abilities and condition are objectively better than Itachi's. And barely anyone says that Itachi is weak, and those that do are just hating on him.
@DavidLucian9 ай бұрын
@@thanatoes537 Well, it seems that you don't know anything about Itachi's scaling, if you make an effort to look or to rewatch at all of his encounters, you will find out that he was always one step above anyone else, he didn't go all out against anyone during the series, his potential remain unknown, Itachi it's in the same league as Minato boy, so stop underestimate a shinobi unpredictable such as Itachi. 1. (Tsukuyomi) The best trick a magician could pull off was one even the audience could not be aware of until the very last minute. Illusions are a weapon of choice for many ninjas in the Shinobi world. But no one could master it the way Itachi Uchiha had. Even without his Sharingan, Itachi could create illusions that seemed extremely life-like and real. True to his pacifist self, Itachi mainly uses Genjutsu in combat to neutralize his opponents without even raising a finger. When combined with the superior illusionary techniques of the Mangekyo Sharingan, Itachi gains the ultimate Genjutsu ability - Tsukuyomi. Via Tsukuyomi, Itachi can affect the enemy’s perception of time, torturing him for days in a make believe world while in the real world, it would just be a matter of seconds. While both Minato and Itachi have a superhuman battle sense and strategic mindset, Itachi has a severe advantage in this field. It is mainly because of his Sharingan. His Kekkei Genkai amplifies his analytical thinking in battle. Able to quickly find out the flaws in opponents’ plans and striking back at their weakest links with the least possible effort is somewhat of a forte of Itachi Uchiha. While Minato is just as proficient in this field, the Uchiha prodigy scores better also due to the fact that he blossomed at a very young age compared to even Minato. Itachi was 3 years younger to Minato when he passed the Chunin Exams. By the tender age of 7, his power levels were considered to be just as high as any Kage. Itachi’s quick reaction time is the stuff of legends. The technique of Kirin, considered to be the fastest lightning based Jutsu in existence, is arguably hundreds of times faster than the speed of sound itself. The only person who has proven to be quick enough to dodge it is Itachi Uchiha. From performing hand signs even Sasuke and Kakashi could not follow through with their Sharingan to countering Killer Bee’s eight sword style, Itachi’s superhuman reflexes are extraordinarily gifted, even by Uchiha standards. This gives him quite an edge against Minato, who likes attacking opponents from their blind spots.
@thanatoes5379 ай бұрын
@@DavidLucian As you said, Minato is smart. He wouldn't be so dumb as to look an Uchiha in the eyes. That makes Tsukuyomi only getting a small chance of landing if Itachi manages to catch Minato off guard. Even then, ALL genjutsu has been shown to have a split window. Itachi still has to actually cast it before it lands, a time that Minato can dodge. And Minato would be able to break out of any other genjutsu that itachi can cast since Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu in Itachi's arsenal that can't be broken out of. When it comes to intelligence, Minato is the superior. He got a better grade in both the written part of the Chunnin exam and the academy. He also has FAR more experience, as he completed 874 missions while itachi completed only 340 (need I remind you that Ebisu, Konohamaru's Sensei, has done more missions at 498). Most of Itachi's missions were C-rank, being 152, while Minato has completed more than twice that with just A-rank missions being 323. Then there is Kakashi. He has worked closely with both Itachi and Minato and even when he was defeated by Itachi after the Chunnin Exams, he still considered Minato the most brilliant shinobi to ever live. And lastly, he managed to figure out Obito's Kamui ability in mere moments, there is no feat Itachi has that compares to when it comes to observation and awareness. The flying raijin was made by Tobirama Senju specifically to counter the Uchiha's Sharingan, and Minato is a better than master of the technique than Tobirama. Its straight instant teleportation of either the person casting it or any object that has the specific marking. There is no amount of reaction time that can react to instantaneous teleportation. And kirin is not faster than lightning, its bloody made of it and is just aimed. It's the same speed of lightning, as said by Black Zetsu. Minato dodged the damm fourth Raikage when using his lightning chakra release mode, who in the same mode managed to dodge Amaterasu, a technique that instantly sets fire to the target as long as they are in the caster's sight. And when it comes to reaction times, Naruto in his sage mode was able to dodge edo tensei third raikage without any chakra from kurama using its advanced sensory. The third Raikage was probably not as fast than the fourth Raikage but they used the same technique so we can infer that he was still incredibly fast. And naruto dodged him with only sage mode. Sasuke had to rely on susanoo when fighting the fourth raikage because he couldn't dodge any of his attacks. Since Minato is a perfect sage, he would also have reaction times that fast, fast enough that not even MS Sasuke could percieve. Itachi would be equally forced to rely on Susanoo since he has never shown an actual feat of speed that beats MS Sasuke. And relying on Susanoo would only backfire on Itachi due to his much poorer Chakra reserve compared to Minato.
@DavidLucian9 ай бұрын
@@thanatoes537 This encounter could go either way. Both of them have almost real chances and can win against each other, in my opinion I think that their encounter will be quite unpredictable. You seems to forgot that Itachi was 3 years younger than Minato when he passed the Chunin Exams, and he did it alone, only by himself. Both are incredibly smart. They are both prodigies and geniuses. But A lot of people think that because Minato performed better at the written part of the Chunin Exams he is much smarter than Itachi. But they always forget that Minato took the Chunin Exams at 12 years old. ( I could be wrong feel free to correct me) while Itachi took it at 9 years old, Three full years younger than Minato. And he came really close to beating his score. But let’s look at some other interesting facts. Itachi graduated from the Academy at 7 years old,one of the youngest graduates ever, younger than Minato. I am not saying Minato is dumb, he is one of the smartest Naruto Verse characters. But saying that he is so much smarter than Itachi because he performed better in just one Exam while leaving out every other Exam/Test where Itachi outperformed him is simply wrong and ignorant. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ If you're talking about Flying Raijin Technique that Tobirama create it in the first place, then after Minato tried to perfected... still, this isn't an instant win against special Shinobi's like Madara and Itachi and I'll tell why: If your argument it's based on the fight between Tobirama Vs Izuna, then I will tell you that Izuna could have dodged it, but his arrogance and ignorance brought him his dead. While he was fighting Tobirama he was using only his 3 Tomoe Sharingan, while he had His Mangekyo Sharingan in his Arsenal. Even so... even with his 3 Tomoe Sharingan he had the upperhand, just a minute before Izuna's fatal injury, Tobirama looked at his eyes without warning and being careless, and he instantly closed his eyes, at that moment Izuna had the opportunity to stab Tobirama but instead he chooses just to punch him.🤦🏻♂️ Later on after the creation of the fog by the clash of water and fire style techniques, Tobirama threw the kunais which Izuna clearly saw them coming but since he had no clue of teleportation jutsu he didn’t try to deflect or move away from those kunais. In short, since a kunai can't penetrated the Susanoo( look at Sasuke Vs Danzo If you don't belive me) especially the one that Itachi has(with Yata Mirror) the teleportation jutsu becomes invalid as an attacking technique. 🤷🏻♂️ For me Itachi has slightly better chances of winning because of his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience. In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series xD) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totsuka Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
@jarretthoward45935 ай бұрын
The plot hole with Minato and sage mode is he never used sage mode in combat
@RoninFarmer Жыл бұрын
Itachi is the weakness to every Justus 🤣
@BigHeadClan Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that Koto Imatsu Kami only had that insane cooldown period because it was no longer apart of Shisui's body. Danzo has it and then the crow of Itachi, neither of them are Uchiha, unless one of the books confirms Shisui has the same limitation my guess is he could use it far more frequently. Its also stated by Kakashi that Minato probably couldn't use Shadow Clones to train like Naruto implying his mastery of the technique is beyond compare so its unlikely that Minato could use them for something even more difficult like channeling Sage Mode.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm Жыл бұрын
My guess is it is similar to Kamui. Seperately the abilities were fine, but having booth sped up and empowered booth. Also Minato never used as many Shadowclones but is a much better perfect sage for sure. Gathering nature ebergy in moments.
@ashleybent7015 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Minato was an anomaly and itachi was darwanism. Minato just happened and some how was comparable to kage and itachi was the collective work of hundreds of years of selective breeding. I know its an anime, but its true. Sometimes theres just someone born that can do things nobody else can
@strawhatsanji49852 жыл бұрын
Hey great video as usually, just one thing you didn't mention is Danzo vs Sasuke and Danzo finding the Susano weakness the Susano's back. Now I'm not sure about you but I believe Minato is a lot smarter than Danzo and would be able to find the Susano's weakness faster than Danzo was able to. Long story short Itachi is my favorite character in anime but in this fight he'll lose. Anyhow great video again👍👍👍
@integritybeats2 жыл бұрын
Damn I love how articulated and well thought out your analysis is. You've actually swayed my opinion. Now I think minato takes the W on this one. Well done bro. 👏👏👏
@DaddyHensei7 ай бұрын
Minato has an answer to Itachi’s susanno actually. He could teleport it away. It’s not complete, gara pulled madara out of his own susanno (which we didn’t see it follow him either, it also wasn’t in its complete state at that time either.) Susanno is still a physical object. If Minato can yeet a beast bomb, he can yeet a susanno. Would be pretty funny too, I don’t think Itachi would even expect that one.
@joshuap9352 жыл бұрын
You left out a key factor I believe. Killer bee was able to predict and match minatos teleport speed during the scuffle with the future raikage and itachi has the sharingan which helps predict movement and he’s a hell of a taijutsu fighter. The battle doesn’t have to start out with jutsu, js
@fellowtexan90012 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is worth looking into
@mathieubastien7762 жыл бұрын
Hmm true could itachi see minato marks with his sharingan ? If so it could land to a well placed Amaterasu or just destroying the marks
@kaskew2437 Жыл бұрын
Minato was even trying fr. He could’ve place many more marking and kept teleporting 😊
@josephhamori574 Жыл бұрын
Well killer bee has faster reaction speed and far better taijutsu than itachi,the fastest attack itachi ever reacted to was kirin while bee clearly outclassed that when he reacted to flying thunder god, and minatos body flicker speed (as shown against Obito) by itself was shown to serverly outpace the perception of the sharingan when he body flickered from one side of the room that Naruto was born in to the other side right as Obito was a inch away from stabbing Naruto after he threw him up in the air at such speed that when Minato had already sped right past Obitos face,retrieved Naruto and was on the other side of the room Obito was still looking up at the ceiling. Even with a hashirama celled powered sharingan Obito was still outclassed by minatos speed. Further proof of this is Obito was aware that he would never be able to keep up and catch minato to the point where he resorted to setting trapes (like he did with the explosive tags on Naruto) in hopes of catching Minato. Bee taijutsu by itself could is already overwhelming for the sharingan. Bee and Minato are literally nightmares for the uchihas.
@clockon9929 Жыл бұрын
Flying Raijin is made to counter Uchiha eye Tobirama created to flash cut Izuna without him noticing Itachi eye can't predict a movement that's faster than his eye can react
@keacherr9225 Жыл бұрын
We’ve never seen minato fight with his eyes closed.
@elpsykongroo83082 жыл бұрын
Great video!....I think under the circumstances Itachi would be smart enough to realise that against someone like Minato his susanoo is a liability rather than a benefit and would most likely ditch it. While Minato is the fastest ninja, I bet itachi with his sharingan can keep up with him. His fighting speed should be almost at A's and MS sasuke's level, still he would most likely not be able to beat Minato. TLDR: Itachi has a much better chance if he doesn't use his susanoo.
@sethsameer43792 жыл бұрын
Sharingan can't foresee instantaneous teleportations. Minato isn't traveling at light speed or anything, he is teleporting instantaneously to the location. That's why Obito couldn't react to Minato and was bodied almost instantly despite having a Sharingan. Without the Susano it's an quick one tap from Minato tbh.
@coltizz2 жыл бұрын
Yee the Sharingan is verry good indeed to read movements but teleportation jiutsu is it weakness. As seen by the second Hokage killing Madaras younger brother with it. There is no read with teleportation it’s instant and therefor no counter to it if you don’t know where the teleporter will teleport to. And with Minatos experience using it and can make seals everywhere it’s impossible for him to know where Minato is going to teleport.
@nonameneeded29432 жыл бұрын
@@sethsameer4379 only the telaporting is instant. The attack after it is not. Obito was bodied because he wasn't expecting it and thus couldn't react to the rasengan.
@nonameneeded29432 жыл бұрын
@@coltizz you can counter it if u can react to the attacks they do after the teleportation. Its only foolproof if the mark is right on the persons body
@coltizz2 жыл бұрын
@@nonameneeded2943 that’s not the best argument, a counter only works if you can predict or react fast enough witch is nearly impossible. And if you try to counter it by some miracle he can just counter your counter with the teleport. The attack after is not instant but it carry’s the momentum before the teleport. As the second Hokage slices Madaras younger brother. So not only do you have to predict cuz reaction is nearly impossible but you also have to consider what move the teleporter is doing. The only way someone with that jiutsu is loosing is if the opponent is so much stronger and faster that it negates your teleport. The only thing Minato lacked was a better finishing jiutsu against the strongest of opponents but even then he can still be very useful in almost all circumstances as seen in the war arc.
@mkim143882 жыл бұрын
Itachi does have the yasaka beads he can use in Susano. Not sure how far it goes, but at least it is a ranged weapon.
@commonsense90762 жыл бұрын
What’s he gonna hit with that?
@mkim143882 жыл бұрын
@@commonsense9076 the core of a chibuku tensi lol
@commonsense90762 жыл бұрын
@@mkim14388 Here I thought he was fighting Minato
@mkim143882 жыл бұрын
@@commonsense9076 woops, you're right
@selfmadetjh8889 Жыл бұрын
Theres nothing Minato can do to itachis susanoo but theres also nothing itachi can do against Minato. All Minato has to do is jump around the battlefield until itachis chakra/stamina gives out. Then its cover
@dreamrockstudio11110 ай бұрын
I love Itachi so much. But I have to give this fight to Minato at 8 out of 10. Very nice video. I love your analysis and the way you laid out your conclusions. Please do more.
@DavidLucian2 жыл бұрын
This encounter could go either way. Both of them have almost real chances and can win against each other, in my opinion I think that their encounter will be quite unpredictable. For me Itachi has slightly better chances of winning because of his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience. In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series xD) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can they even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totsuka Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️
@Violate..2 жыл бұрын
Itachi illness will not allow him to win he is way too weakend because of this
@DavidLucian2 жыл бұрын
@@Violate.. Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi either. Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. You underestimate Itachi and you downplay Itachi too much, and you don't even know how Tsukuyomi Nightmare Realm works. Their encounter could go either way, but for me Itachi has slightly better chances of winning because of his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience. If you remember in the first part when Itachi and Kakashi faced off, although Kakashi could see Itachi's clone, (thanks to the Sharingan) he didn't know that Itachi's clones could explode, so he caught him by surprise. Itachi's clones are legendary, unpredictable and unique, they can always catch you by surprise even in the smallest of seconds. Also, how can you leave out the fact that Itachi has an unpredictable way of fighting style approach and the forbidden Izanami and Izanaghi techniques, which are made to combat also forbidden jutsus users, Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. You need to stop downplaying Itachi's way of fighting style approach, in my opinion their encounter could go either way, both of them can win against each other If you ask me. What many have forgotten is the very unpredictable factor of Itachi's fighting style: the way Itachi could beat Minato in my opinion is as follows: The Explosive Clone Tactic: Itachi's clone feints are legendary and unique. Having knowledge of Izanami doesn't prevent it from happening (it is the most sublte jutsu we've ever seen), because any kind of sensation they share can be set as the anchor and there is no way of knowing which. All Minato can do is to either avoid all kinds of physical contact, and he can't fight like that, or he can just try to refrain from repeating an action more than once which is near impossible with his one trick pony skillset. Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you (or his Explosive Clone) during that time in the real world and he can finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good/exceptional at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time, even If the opposite opponent is an Uchiha. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS.🤷♂️
@Violate..2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLucian i know itachi is not ordinary u dont have to tell me this but minato battle iq is also up there, obviously not as much as itachi because the fact that itachi can make multiple loops against kabuto that was just waaaay beyond tbh but minato is also intelligent, fast, and itachi doesnt have much durability and stamina because of his illness unless there is a way itachi can one shot minato quickly i cant see him winning, altho there is no way minato can get through itachi susanoo also because even in sage mode he can only use up to one rasengan he cannot gather much sage mode chakra at all
@Violate..2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLucian What itachi did against kakashi i dont think he could of done all of that against sasuke even if he wanted to because he was done already near death with his illness itachi died to plot
@DavidLucian2 жыл бұрын
@@Violate.. For me personally, Itachi it's much more versatile, unique, interesting and especially more unpredictable than Minato. If you make an effort to look or to rewatch at all of his fights, you might discover that he's pretty much always able to outsmart anyone during a fight or a encounter, because of his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach. Itachi, just like Minato it's a very special Shinobi and no one should underestimate him If you ask me. His way of thinking and his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience factor it's very authentic and underrated, his true potential remain unknown, because he wasn't go all out against anyone during the series. Still... their encounter could go either, both of them have almost real chances to win against each other, Minato wouldn't underestimate Itachi, he surely has his chances, but it will be a close fight, both of them can outdo themselves in this matchup in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️☯️
@puggnacity Жыл бұрын
@Swagkage should weigh in on this if he hasn’t already
@loganfalvo73492 жыл бұрын
Maybe minato can spam flying raijin because its instant teleportation and he doesn't have to actually move to move so he can fuel it with nature chakra. He's a sage so he knows how to gather nature chakra, he doesn't have to be a be a perfect sage to achieve this. Then the question is can you use raw nature chakra for a technique? If so using a technique that takes a mass amounts of chakra but doesn't require you to move but moves you is incredibly powerful. Similar to hashirama riding his wood style creations. Could you theoretically immediately channel nature chakra into a technique as you gather it, you need to balance it with your own in order to enter sage mode but if you can burn it as fast as you take it in could be part of why minato believes himself to be an imperfect sage until his chakra pool is doubled with kurama.
@jessefry96162 жыл бұрын
Do you really think he can spam high-intense chakra Jutsu and perfectly suck in sage mode? You literally can't move at all. Have you guys ever seen any sage mode user output chakra while pulling in sage mode? NO, YOU haven't O_O......Yall stretching so hard it's unbelievable.
@zomboii23252 жыл бұрын
@@jessefry9616 ...Kabuto?
@lliw4945 Жыл бұрын
@@zomboii2325 LOL amazing response bro ngl.
@lliw4945 Жыл бұрын
@@jessefry9616 Minato has spammer flying raijin before actually he spammed it about 1000 times to kill 1000 shinobi.
@takaazakayi35242 жыл бұрын
I really liked this type of vs battle honestly power scaling or actually the power scalers make these type battles annoying so I'd really enjoy your take on some of the popular Naruto battles do Sasuke vs tobirama next please 🙏
@LaeryWayne-zg1qy10 ай бұрын
One year later he also has an Itachi tattoo
@c-handle26762 жыл бұрын
Nick started this month denying being a power scaler... Sir, you're on the right path to becoming one 🤣
@DBL6Domino2 жыл бұрын
If we knew the full extent of Minato's fuinjutsu, Itachi might not have a chance.
@JAYTHEARTIST20042 жыл бұрын
If itachi wasn’t sick we would see a full fledge beast especially since he was smoking people beyond Kage level while being sick
@habhachi55652 жыл бұрын
@@JAYTHEARTIST2004 itachi trash accept it if itachi isn't sick that mean he isn't dying there for we can give Minato kurama
@itsmyboardwhotalk2 жыл бұрын
@@JAYTHEARTIST2004 tobirama developed flying raijin to kill madaras brother, who was said to be as strong as him. Minato is the master of flying raijin, wouldnt that mean he is the perfect counter to any uchia and thats the real reason why Konoha was attacked, to eliminate the biggest threat: Minato
@Violate..2 жыл бұрын
@@habhachi5565 why would u randomly say give minato kurama? U might as well just say give minato the ten tails and a rinnegan😂
@9nine657 Жыл бұрын
Funny that people also forget that minato is a sensory ninja 🥷 as well in combination to sage mode 😊😊
@gerardocovarrubias30582 жыл бұрын
Do you think if Kakashi learned sage mode and flying Raijin without getting the Sharingan he could have been more stronger and Powerful
@j-cotto3332 жыл бұрын
Do you think if he increased his speed and power he would have been more stronger and powerful???😂
@gerardocovarrubias30582 жыл бұрын
Yes but he didn't learn them because the Sharingan drained his Chakra I think if he learned them right before the kanabi bridge he could have been unbeatable be more stronger than Minato and Jiraiya
@rahulkindo82822 жыл бұрын
both of these require a huge amount of chakra ,which Kakashi did not have.
@gerardocovarrubias30582 жыл бұрын
Okay not both but one sage mode versus flying Thunder God which wins which is better
@malachistice81112 жыл бұрын
@@rahulkindo8282 did you just say sage mode requires a huge ammount of chakra? what show did you watch?
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
I think assuming just because Naruto used shadow clones to give him access to significantly more sage mode chakra that this means Minato would do the same is kind of an oversight. Naruto used shadow clones to overcome his limitations. Minato didn't have the same problem, so while he could be a perfect sage, it was much more limited in duration than Naruto's. And it being more limited would mean he couldn't spend the entire fight using the perfect sage mode senses, which would mean he would either have to risk eye contact, or put himself at a serious defensive disadvantage to avoid tsukuyomi, which would be a weakness Itachi would be able to exploit. And I'm not saying this means Itachi wins. But it would re contextualize some of the major fight elements. Sure, Minato could probably figure out the shadow clone trick after watching his son do it, but we never saw him attempt anything like it earlier in the series. Just like how Kakashi and Minato failed to add chakra natures to the rasengan while Naruto figured it out. And if we're letting Minato use ideas his son had, then at that point it's a 4th war edo Minato vs edo Itachi battle, which would be a whole different set of circumstances. Just my take anyway.
@justkashi9481 Жыл бұрын
i feel given Minato's inteliegence it makes sense for him to know the same fact of Chakra and information transfer, after all his student told naruto that. Given the major things we see minato do he never needs it or theres story elements to explain why it wouldn't be prepped, if we're giving them both their full arsenal it only makes sense to say minato can do something he'd realistically think of to overcome his limits and could easily do given his chakra reserves
@OldManInternet Жыл бұрын
@@justkashi9481 True, but Naruto learned to do it because of his own shortcomings, as a way to accomplish something that other people could just do normally. If Minato was never in a situation where he felt like he had to develop a way to overcome that limitation, why would we assume he would immediately jump to Naruto's solution to a problem he never felt he had? It's something he would probably figure out over time if he had a longer life, or would possibly develop because of a fight like this after the fact. But given he was relatively young when he died I think it's a bit of a jump in logic just to assume he could to it on the spot just because his old mentor and his essentially chakraly disabled son figured it out.
@illyayekimov96636 ай бұрын
I don't know, in a fair fight Minato would win due to stamina, but the Izanagi literally rewrites reality, Itachi could use it to sneak attack Minato (no sure if Minato is even aware of the sharingan being able to do that)
@n.68472 жыл бұрын
What if Orochimaru kidnapped and took Kakashi's body (when he ran into him while running away from Hiruzen) Important to note that Kakashi at that point have already awakened the Kamui Mangekyou & Orochimaru have experimented successfully with Hashirama Cells Kamui+Hashirams cells: unlimited Kamui unlocked just like Obito To do list for the new improved "Kakashi" 1. Going back to the leaf pretending to be the real Kakashi and kidnap Naruto in secret - for the 9 tails, and maybe Sasuke for backup. 2. Do a lill grave robbing for more Edo puppets. 3. Kill Hiruzen while at it i guess, but this time assassinating him with Kamui head-hunting. 4. Going to war with the Akatsuki and Obito after finding out about the infinite tsukuyomi plan that would prevent him from exercising his free will. 5. Also maybe hunt Obito for the other Kamui eye.
@malachistice81112 жыл бұрын
yes yes yes
@raducora71592 жыл бұрын
I think the unlimited Kamui thing is quite a stretch for two reasons: 1. Kakashi only awakened Kamui unknowingly at that point. It took him way more than 3 years to awaken it consciously (only the time skip is almost 3 years). There's no evidence that supports the idea of Orochimaru unlocking it sooner and after 3 years he would have most probably had to change his body again. 2. While Orochimaru's experiment on Yamato WAS successful, he only became aware of that when he met Yamato again in Shippuden, which is once again way past the "expiry date" for using Kakashi's body.
@n.68472 жыл бұрын
@@raducora7159 1. "Theres no evidence .. .. of Orochimaru unlocking it sooner" Yes there isnt lol. Because this is a hypothetical headcanon scenario i came up with. It didnt happen in the Manga as you know. So considering this is a headcanon what if scenario we'd just have to make it so that it happens. Its up to us to decide how it happens. Also, Kakashi didnt unlock the Kamui earlier because KISHIMATO didnt unlock the kamui earlier lmao. The idea for Kamui was definitely not developed when Kishi was writing part one Naruto. Same with so many things that was later retconned into the story. Like why Tobirama not having FTG when he was summoned by Orochimaru to fight Hiruzen. Because at that point Kishimato did not have the idea for FTG or if he did he was working with his original intent of it being a jutsu developed by Minato. This was only later changed to be a Tobirama jutsu. During part one era Kishimato said in an interview that Minato was the strongest shinobi dead (Hashirama and Madara was also dead at the time) But later again Madara and Hashirama got the mythical unrivaled legends treatment for Shippuden. Shit like this happens all the time in weekly manga. The auther does not have the entire story and all of its details in their head when they start working on it. Plus Orochimaru & Kabuto knows wayyy more about the Sharingan than Kakashi did at any point in the story. He could have easily figure it out the moment he got Kakashi's body. 2. I wasnt referring to Yamato. I was referring to Shin Uchiha and Danzo's Hashirama cell body mods. 3. If/when Kakashi's body starts to reject Orochimaru's parasitic soul he can just take the eye out and transfer it to his next host u know. We're talking about a story in which regular chunin level medical ninja like Rin can perform eye transplants lol. So Orochimaru and Kabuto would be able to do it in their sleep. 4. Also theres the option of turning Kakashi into a Edo Puppet after Orochimaru changes hosts. Either way unlimited Kamui is up for grabs for Orochimaru 5. Again, this is headcanon what if scenario. Its up to us to tell this story. We can only do it by changing certain things to fit our story.