Wow - what a helpful review - thank you for all this detail. Stunning service to the astro community
@alandyer9102 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! We are certainly spoiled for choice in this class of filters. So any real world testing is a great help in making a decision what to buy. Well done!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan!
@mistaskate8715 Жыл бұрын
Great reviews! Nobody goes into as much depth in an easy to understand and entertaining way than you. Love it! 🤩
@thimitri12 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico.. new subscriber here.. thank you very much for this excellent review!! Just what I needed to learn.. and mostly, thank you to your patrons who help make this video (and others) happen!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I can't thank my patrons enough!
@jonathanshields20169 ай бұрын
Great reviews and a valuable service. I was considering the l-enhance for EAA which is my thing. Definitely looks an option.
@neudan77882 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best astro reviews I have seen. Thank you Nico for remaining honest and professional. Unfortunately some astro KZbinrs lost all of their credibility. But you along the years have always kept your content honest and unbiased- which it should be if you are someone who is really out there to help the astro community. You have helped me a great deal getting started with this hobby and also now. Thank you!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Dan! Clear skies!
@AstroDust Жыл бұрын
Impressive, thanks for sharing
@CuivTheLazyGeek2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Nico! By the way, assuming the spectrometer measurements are correct, the L-eXtreme being a tad off in terms of centering is good! At least in your case, as from what I can tell the wavelength is to the left of the bandpass, meaning you can expect that filter to work well on fast optics too! Some L-eXtreme samples have the reverse....
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I need a setup like yours for the high-speed testing! Thanks Cuiv!
@AstroBlender2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my L-eXtreme was useless at f/2. Interesting to see the differences in filters off the line Cuiv.
@indysbike30142 жыл бұрын
@@AstroBlender There is an updated version 2 of the L-eXtreme which works also at wider apertures.
@derektion22 жыл бұрын
Great review Nico! I have the L-Pro and L-enhance already but I have been thinking about getting the extreme. Overall the optolong extreme and antlia are very similar, except for the halo in that one image. Maybe I will switch directions and go with the antlia filter instead. Things to consider for sure
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
It was definitely impressive!
@KajZu22 жыл бұрын
Tnx mate, a nice review..
@cemoguz27862 жыл бұрын
That was helpful thank you.
@flexable92562 жыл бұрын
You should have asked Optolong to send you their coming L-Ultimate (3nm dual band) filter! :)
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd like to try it! I just heard about it a few days ago.
@flexable92562 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos I think Visible Dark has one for a month or so, maybe you can see with him? - and thanks, btw, for the test.
@jdat Жыл бұрын
awesome review! im considering getting one of these filters, but i shoot from b4. would you think that these filters would be useful for skies that dont have a lot of LP?
@sergeyt.7564 Жыл бұрын
Hi, nice comparison. What a filter you used for bright objects( galaxy, star clusters, planetary nebulas)? Bortle 4.Thank you
@skye7690 Жыл бұрын
Would like it see review on Antlia Triband RGB Ultra too
@hwangluke29822 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, could you do a comparison of all the filters including CLS filters and Dual or Triad filters on the same target? It would be great if you could compare all of them :D ( eg. svbony cls vs L-ehance ). Shoot them on the same target could help the people have a wider vision of what could be done with their CLS filters versus a dual band filter. Hope you could read this.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I find it very difficult to even get through 4 filters in a single night. Keeping it to the same night keeps it more fair. So I'm not sure if I can realize your request, maybe if I find a more efficient way to do the testing some day with multiple copies of the same telescope.
@hwangluke29822 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Hello, thanks for your reply. Sorry because my request is difficult for you :(. I believe you could do it with two nights separately. Is two nights with the same weather and temperature conditions rare to happen?
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
@@hwangluke2982 Yeah, it's very rare to get two clear nights in a row, so then I'm waiting a month, but that often goes to two months and then the objects are at different altitude. So if I find a way to be more efficient (two scope for example) I will try to do more filters at once, but two nights doesn't work for my location.
@travelswiththebeast333710 ай бұрын
Nico, I have question about narrowband filters for those of us lucky enough to live in dark sky areas (I live at 9300 ft just west of the Continental Divide in Colorado and my house is in a Bortle 2 area. I have been into Astrophotography for about 18 months and gone from shooting Milky Way wide field with tripod APS-C DSLR and a wide angle zoom lens to now shooting with an iOptron CEM26, Askar V, ZWO ASI2600MC Pro, Guide scope with ASI120mm and ASIair+. So the question comes from my wanting to be able to use SHO (and variations) and am considering buying some filters like the Antlia ALP-T Dual (Ha, Hb, Sii, Oiii) set. Is this path worth the cost and trouble? I understand the limits using an OSC camera versus a mono camera. Going this route seems to get me the emission lines I need to have for SHO processing.
@NebulaPhotos10 ай бұрын
I haven’t tried those new double dual NB filter sets, but in theory it makes sense. You could always start with the standard Ha/OIII filter and then add the SII/OIII filter later.
@roadtrippin27812 жыл бұрын
Got any non-Chinese made filters you could stamp your approval on?
@Robert_Nik2 жыл бұрын
Даже пар со рта не идёт, значит погода тёплая. Везёт)
@sandb18672 жыл бұрын
9:51 It seems the Antlia is doing a better job of passing OIII, despite its transmittance curve suggesting that it would do similarly or worse than the L-extreme.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
They looked very similar when I separated out the green and blue channels. I tried my best to process identically, but it can be hard. It's difficult to see, but my guess is I measured 80% transmission with Antlia at [OIII] and 84% with the L-eXtreme, and 92% with the L-eNhance, but the smaller bandpasses make a difference too for making it easier to push the OIII since you have the better contrast. So the peak transmission doesn't tell the whole story if that makes sense.
@Merlinczech2 жыл бұрын
I´m so sorry...My debit card I had in Patreon expires and I didn´t know, since June it was canceled, i´m an idiot :-( So new year new sub with PayPal because Patreon declined my new card. So clear sky and happy life Nico!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
No worries! That happens a lot with Patreon. Happy new year!
@ricardosnauwaert68262 жыл бұрын
the more LP the narrower the filter, otherwise you block good data too instead of only LP
@Raketenclub2 жыл бұрын
great stuff, but hard to listen, sound is distorted....
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Was it just the first 3 minutes (the intro that was recorded outside) that had bad sound? It was a windy night unfortunately.
@Raketenclub2 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos hi, yes after the ouside recording everything is fine again, sorry :) i posted tooo fast.
@SandroShugladze2 жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Many thanks. I have stock Sony a7III with tracker and guider. Will those filters help me on Bortle sky 2 during no moon?
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
If you are shooting emission nebulae, yes.
@JohnDoe-pm9cg2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thank u very much. I wonder why is no Filter out there with 3 Bandpasses for Ha, OII and SII?
@ollinevalainen8642 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Do you happen to know where could be checked whether Optolong L-extreme fits to a certain DSLR type? For example, I use Canon EOS 6D Mark II, because it has been reviewed as quite a good DSLR for astrophotography, but turns out that all narrowband filters that I am previously aware of do not fit it. For these optolong filters, I have not yet found out whether they could be used with that camera model. I am using telelenses instead of a telescope.
@lukomatico2 жыл бұрын
Hey Nico! - What a superb test my friend, I can only stand back and appreciate the time and effort this must have taken to put together! 🙂 Wishing you and yours a healthy and happy new year! All the best, Luke
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke! Yes, these comparisons always take so much longer to make than you'd think. For this one, I planned to also get real world tests for all three filters from Bortle 4 as well as the Bortle 8 results shown, but after getting clouded out (twice!), I had to give up on that aspect of it. Hope you have a very happy new year as well! -Nico
@JoeGeiger8 ай бұрын
Great video Nico. One thing to mention about the Antlia ALP-T is that Antlia sells a companion narrowband filter that captures SII and Hb. When used together, you can create true SHO pallet images with a OSC camera by separating out the channels and recombining them. I got decent results on the NA nebula with this technique. Antlia has a tutorial on how to create SHO images with both filters. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2rLXnSdbKpgn7s
@daenu2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, excellent video, thank you. It would be really interesting, how to build a DIY spectrometer. Would be great, if you could share that in another video!
@douglasestrada262 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, great review and I think Antlia is the winner here because of no halo, do you think this filter work with Celestron RASA's? Thanks.
@jeffhall1912 жыл бұрын
On the Cloudy Nights vendor announcements, LYAstro stated: "We will have a few versions optimized for F3, and F2 will not perform very well"
@douglasestrada262 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@stelaras12 жыл бұрын
once again what a great video! you should add L-Ultimate in comparison when available :) thank you
@alekhshah53932 жыл бұрын
Hi this is a wonderful video and just subscribed! I have an unmodded Nikon camera and an Orion f/6 scope and was wondering if the l enhance filter is worth the money to use on emission nebulae with a standard unmodded camera like mine. Thanks!
@hael86802 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I only wished you had pointed the camera to the Horse Head for the ultimate showdown.
@redabdab2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this excellent review. I’ve had the L-extreme for a while and I really love it for emission nebulae (the Veil looks wonderful!). So it’s really good to see what the other main ones are capable of. Aside from a bit of halo (I agree with your finding), I’m happy I made the right choice 👍 (I shoot at f/5.4 with a 2600MC Pro)
@Ishan70192 жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel but you bet I am going to watch all your videos…I don’t know anything about AF yet, but your videos are helping me so much…soon i will buy a reflector for AF as soon as i have a some knowledge of this!!😅😅
@SoftwareSavesMe2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Excellent comparison; now I need to check your website for the filters I actually have.
@frosthastrophotography2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video!
@LawnDamn2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you I was just looking for a filter and wanted to chose between L-enhance and exreme living in a B8 place and this video helped me with my choice
@oq172 жыл бұрын
Hello - thank you for all your great videos. I really appreciate them. I wanted to ask you your thoughts on the s/w "Backyard EOS" - I have searched your channel, but did not see a review of it. Do you not use it ? If not, why ? I was thinking about purchasing this as it seems like a nice way to control my camera and see things on a larger screen. Would love your thoughts.... and any one else's on your channel. Thank you!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I own it and have used it a half dozen times. It works very well and I can recommend it. The reason I don't use it more is for me part of the allure of the DSLR is keeping it simple, and not using a computer at all. I usually have a more complex computerized setup going with a dedicated astro cam that is all automated, and then for my DSLR kits I keep them as simple as possible: just a DSLR, a good lens, and a star tracker.
@afryhover2 жыл бұрын
Great job Nico! I've always wanted one of these in 77mm size, so I could use it with my camera lenses.
@cameranerdsmedia2 жыл бұрын
Incredible you got the Astro filter domain! Great work! This will super useful
@mitchallen552 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Your videos are great. What are your thoughts on tri or quad bandpass filters like the Radian Triad? Worth the extra money?
@mrCetus2 жыл бұрын
Great review Nico, I'm especially interested in the Antlia when it comes to generally availability. I can confirm I get bad halo's at f5.5 with the Optolong L-Extreme too and did a similar test with the STC Duo Narrrowband vs the L-Extreme, which showed no halos on the STC Duo images... Not sure if it was my eyes, but the Antlia appeared to have more detail, but looked noiser in the nebula itself. Perhaps YT isn't helping
@daveinthewild2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, Have you ever considered going live on youtube or twitch for maybe post processing sessions or weekly astro-talk episodes?
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, I go live once a month for my Patreon members on Zoom. patreon.com/nebulaphotos At this time, that about all I have time for. Maybe more in the future
@nocturneastro25392 жыл бұрын
Great video Nico, thanks for doing this comparison!
@astronomynotebook2 жыл бұрын
Nico, great video ….❤️
@stevekuzmic39112 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison Nico . As always, very informative. I am keen to see how the optilong ultimate with 3nm pass preforms
@enigmaticfool2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’m holding off on the antlia to see what the price/performance is compared to the l-ultimate
@HogarthsAstrophotography2 жыл бұрын
Great review Nico, I'm especially interested in the Antlia when it comes to generally availability. I can confirm I get bad halo's at f5.5 with the Optolong L-Extreme too and did a similar test with the STC Duo Narrrowband vs the L-Extreme, which showed no halos on the STC Duo images... Not sure if it was my eyes, but the Antlia appeared to have more detail, but looked noiser in the nebula itself. Perhaps YT isn't helping
@ballage2023 Жыл бұрын
I have at least one really strong halos with the L-Extreme too with the Redcat which really hard to handle in post processing will change it to Antlia
@hudsonr.2182 жыл бұрын
Really wish they would release the L-eXtreme as a clip in filter. I love the L-eNhance with my DSLR setup and lens, but I wish I could get that little bit extra. Seems that astro modifying my camera would help me more than getting a different filter though. Great video and super insightful results Nico! P.S. - I think you helped out my group with our cube sattelite, RamSat (unless there is some other guy named Nico Carver). Small World!
@Thefuror385002 жыл бұрын
Of course it will help you way more...you are leaving 70 to 80% of the Ha on the table...
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Yes, astro-modifying will help more than getting a different filter when it comes to passing the H-alpha line which is most dominant in emission nebulae. RE: RamSat - ha, yes that's me, small world indeed!
@LambdaHDvideo2 жыл бұрын
There is a 3d printable converter with which you can use any 1.25 filter as a clip in for canon Thats how i use my l extreme
@hwangluke29822 жыл бұрын
@@LambdaHDvideo Could you show me how you do it?
@hudsonr.2182 жыл бұрын
@@LambdaHDvideo huh that is quite interesting. Could you share a thingiverse or stl file link? Are there any problems with vignetting with the smaller filter size?
@MrSpike24502 жыл бұрын
Thanks another great informative video. Is it worth imaging with these filters during a full or over 50% moon.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Yes, these test results were done with about 70% moon out. The [OIII] would have been better if I'd tested when the moon wasn't out, but with the weather we've been getting I needed to take a clear night when available.
@chimerasaurus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico. I saw this filter pop up a few weeks ago and was curious about it. I wanted something to live inside one of the Redcats for a portable setup and this looks like a good filter for that purpose. I appreciate your detailed measurements, it's super helpful!
@dr.joeluciani14822 жыл бұрын
Great review Nico! Much appreciated. Which of the three do you think would work best with fast, f/2 hyperstar? I know these are touted for fast ratios....do any of these stand out...or is that another investigation for you. Anyway, do keep up the wonderful videos and effort.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I believe both Optolong and Antlia have 'high speed' versions in development. I haven't heard that either is for sale yet, but keep your eyes peeled. I'd definitely wait for those for your f/2 hyperstar!
@justindame2 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always Nico! Proud to be a Patreon/Discord member!
@juanjosemoreno20262 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You go right to the point, excellent, very helpful.
@avt_astro2062 жыл бұрын
Very Informative Video Nico!! Appreciate your Efforts. Thanks For Making This. Will help a Lot on my Decision on buying filters!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
@TwoPancakes2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Nico ! I got my Antlia ALP-T 4 days ago but I haven’t been able to use it for 5 days because clouds. Thanks for showing me a sneak peak of what I could see !
@AstroBlender2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work here! I like that you use an at home-spectrometer rig for testing. It seems like the L-eXtreme and the f/2 version both struggle with star halos. Hopefully they can nail it down. Clear skies Nico, and thanks for the detailed review.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cody! Clear skies to you in 2022!
@numerics772 жыл бұрын
I believe the ALP-L offer a version for f/2 systems… hopefully the rest of the vendors will catch up.
@jeroenvdw2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I never tried astrophotography yet, 30 minutes shutter time seems insane. How come the images still have noise with that shutter time? If I take a picture with any shutter speed and ISO 100 or high ISO and for example 10 sec shutter speed there is never noise.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
We are trying to bring out objects that are impossibly dim compared to anything you would shoot normally. We then stretch (increase brightness) the image very aggressively to bring those dim objects out, but that also brings up the noise
@leoncorns14502 жыл бұрын
I have the optolong l extreme and don't think it's worth upgrading on these results. Thanks for another great and informative video Nico
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help Leon! Thanks for watching! -Nico
@dmytroabraimov63023 ай бұрын
Hello, very interesting video! Did you had chance to test filter SkyTech L-PRO MAX, which seems is analog of Optolong L-Pro?
@tompage86747 ай бұрын
Every time I want to know something I google it and it just so happens Nebula photos has done a video. THANK YOU!
@ryh69PL Жыл бұрын
THX Nico!
@patrickbisaillon307 Жыл бұрын
@NebulaPhotos If I may suggest an idea for an upcoming video, how about comparing these two OSC filter sets: Askar Color Magic Duo Pack (D1 OIII+Ha and D2 OIII+SII) vs Antlia ALP-T Dual Band Filter Package (Ha+OIII and SII+Hb). I haven't been able to find a one-to-one comparison out there of these two competing sets so I think it would be a great if you would do it first.
@kevinashley4782 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your testing as it takes away a lot of the subjectiveness/opinions. I saw the KZbin video of your panel with Biscuit. Good stuff. I'm hoping to catch Leonard for the last time tomorrow night. Happy New Years!
@CammieRacing2 жыл бұрын
Super beginner here, are £30-80 ($50-$110) light pollution filters worth my time? Or too cheap to be of any use?
@adamcarpenter78232 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Antlia ALP-T highspeed from Starizona (along with their Hyperstar C8 v4 and some other various stuff) earlier today. Not too far from you here in Billerica so looking forward to testing it all out soon if these cloudy New England spring nights ever clear up. Thanks again for another great video!
@beniciocaro47722 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that you took these in Somerville because I am starting at Tufts in 2022!
@koppervik1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, and thanks for a very informative channel! I shoot with a full spectrum modified Canon 60D, and my scope is 61EDPH II at f4.5. I first bought the l-enhance clip-in and was very happy with the filter. I later also bought the 2" l-extreme and have used that since, without really comparing befor/after since I did not shoot the same target. I shoot from a bortle 5 for now, but also have access to bortle 3 in the mountains. I came across a graph (Jim Thompson, Abbey Road Observatory) showing the performance of l-enhance vs l-extreme as a function of speed of the scope. At f4.5, the l-xtreme had quite significant worse performance than l-enhance in Ha. I understand that in bortle 8, the more narrow bamd passes is better to block light pollution, but this graph made me wonder if I actually would be better off with the l-enhance in bortle 5 and 3?
@MADHIKER7772 жыл бұрын
Another well done, informative video!
@wzuhl2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Thank you!
@GrowingAnswers2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought about doing a head to head comparison with a cooled mono versus cooled 0SC using a narrowband HA filter? I understand the mechanics of it but I have not seen any direct photo comparisons. Mono will always be better obviously but I think that can be also categorized by a persons personal taste for quality.
@indysbike3014 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a 5min sub with a mono + Ha filter and a 5min sub with a OSC + L-eXtreme.
@Everything_I_Like.8 ай бұрын
Nico, can you try out the Nisi night filter and K&F concept night filter? i've been thinking of buying them for my camera but idk which one to buy
@bryankelly62552 жыл бұрын
This is the most thorough, yet concise, review on these filters that I've seen on these filter. Excellent job!
@davidbrown-yx3gz Жыл бұрын
i don't understand bortle measurements, my area is classed as bortle 5 and i have Edinburgh and Glasgow to deal with, even my dark site is bortle 4 and yet the area you are in on this video is bortle 8 and still looks much darker than where i am. Learnt a lot from your videos. You make things clear and understandable. One of the best if not thee best astrophotography channels on YT, just wish i could image with you see how you go about it hands on
@fredmercury1314 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how these compare to the ZWO 2" Duo-Band Dual Narrowband Filter?
@claudekaber609 Жыл бұрын
To my personal taste, the l-enhance produces the most beautiful image, despite the light pollution showing a little bit. At that price vs the others, its a no-brainer for me.
@richards31922 жыл бұрын
As always, good informative review without bloatspeak Nico :) I have the IDAS NBZ DB filter (later version) which has a wider bandpass than the Antlia ALP=T but is optically excellent, seems to be spot on as per wavelength and no halo so far
@slim18572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very interesting video. I've owned the 3 filters and I finally sold the 2 optolongs. The L-extreme (or especially my copy?) produces extreme ugly halos on bright stars which is definitely a show stopper for me considering the post processing time to reduce them a bit.
@rayyanimran15572 жыл бұрын
It was a common issue with the L extreme to produce horrible halos. How was your experience with the L enhance? I'm looking to get a filter for my setup, my camera is an eos 1200d, what would you recommend based on your experience with all 3
@slim18572 жыл бұрын
@@rayyanimran1557 the L enhanced filter is also concerned by halos but in a much lesser concern. I would recommand the Antlia or the IDAS NBZ instead.
@MrRnk222 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative video! Looking forward to more like this.
@ateiviz2 жыл бұрын
Great information and comparisons, I'm shooting with a stock nikon dslr and lens so footer options are almost non existent. Until I can upgrade to telescope and Astro camera I'll be choosing my targets accordingly to not waste hours in the cold.
@miltonbatera69102 жыл бұрын
I'm living um Brazil, in a city with bortle 3-2, i need some filter?
@kekedong Жыл бұрын
I think this video is actually a persuasion to modify your dslr
@riaandewinnaar50402 жыл бұрын
Awesome Nico! Been waiting for this. We need more equipment put to head to head test!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Great! I agree, they are a lot of work, but nice to see comparisons.
@Lumber91 Жыл бұрын
Why is bros eyes blue? Like around his pupils 😮
@MarkusGebhard3 ай бұрын
I wish all reviews on KZbin were like this one!!!
@ianmoore23322 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico.... great video - really helpful. Would you expect the results to stack up significantly differently when viewed from a (say) Bortle 4 location? Do you have any resources that show which DSO targets are best suited to Ha, S2 or O3 etc. ?
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
They work great from a Bortle 4, but my conclusions would be the same. Check out the bottom of my Antlia ALP-T written review to see some Bortle 4 results: www.astrofilters.com/2021/12/27/antlia-alp-t/ I don't have that resource, but I've found if I just Google Image search the object name and 'SHO' I can usually find some helpful astrophotographer websites that can give me ideas for what to expect. I then bookmark my favorites like this one: billsnyderastrophotography.com/
@AstroLeo20242 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Thank you for sharing. Also, please Stop! You're costing me a fortune 😁
@robb73422 жыл бұрын
Nico, thanks so much for making this video happen, timing is perfect. I now have the alternative that I was looking for. Also, great explination as to the filter usage for Nebula as well as what to expect in moon lit skies.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help Rob! Clear skies, Nico
@Preciousvibez2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE HELP. I want to shoot a nebula . Please help me 1. I have no more money for mods 2. I have a 8inch dob telescope 3. I have a canon t6i 4 I have a good laptop will download any applications for edits 5. I have a suv for travel to dark loc 6. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET BEAUTIFUL PHOTIS LIKE YOURS 7. I have a goal to gift family members with sky portraits from me this year 7 is there a cheaper filter 8. I have a couple lenses
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest driving to the dark location, and using just your Canon t6i with the lenses on a tripod. The 8" dob is a good scope for visual astronomy or images of the moon/planets, but won't be ideal for shooting the stars/deep sky objects. Your camera lenses will be better for that. I have complete start to finish videos on shooting Andromeda Galaxy (kzbin.info/www/bejne/ponGg36lrbmDjMk) and Orion Nebula (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6awi3pjiN53ebc) with just a stock DSLR (not modded), no filters, just a lens and tripod. These videos present a lot of the same information, but either one should help you achieve your goal with the gear you have.
@martrich10982 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have used the STC astro dual band clip in filter, which I think gets similar performance to the L-extreme with my modded 6D ( I have even balanced the L-extreme on the front of my Canon 50mm f1.8 with predictable mixed results). Both of these give me large red/purple colour fringes (vignetting? I'm not sure) that don't calibrate out, even at f4 with this lens, leaving only the central portion of the image useable. I also get a bit of colour fringing when using the L-extreme with my 250mm f4.9 Redcat and dslr. By the way, would love to know how you rigged up your spectrometer!
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I think some color vignette is fairly common with the clip filters on full frame, It's hard to fully illuminate the sensor without some shading. A lot easier on the APS-C bodies. Email me about the spectrometer: nicocarver at gmail
@pietroalessandrini2 жыл бұрын
I did NOT expect that much difference
@jster91 Жыл бұрын
Can you get to the full spectrum image quality level with the standard SLR by adjusting your exposure length? Exposures being equal, it's obvious that full spectrum is superior, but can you get to the same image by just extending the exposure length compared to full spectrum?
@NebulaPhotos Жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Opening up the sensor to that part of the spectrum really changes color balance so even if you exposed longer (longer total integration) to get the SNR equal in that part of the spectrum, the color balance would still be very different.
@seledkapod222 ай бұрын
May I ask, what shutter speed and ISO did you use to shoot with the stock camera?
@NebulaPhotos2 ай бұрын
ISO3200 and shutter speed I changed based on the filter to match histograms, I believe all 4-6 minutes. Details listed in my text reviews here: www.astrofilters.com/
@balboadancer7512 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review Nico! Interesting to see that the Antlia ALP doesn't have the halo's around the star. Any idea on how it will perform with a fast lens/scope?
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
It will work at f/3. An f/2.8 lens will likely be fine too. Any faster than that, you'd want to look at the pre-shifted 'high speed' filters
@balboadancer7512 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Excellent. I'm going to give it a go at F2 on my 135mm, but will stop down to 2.8 if it fails. Thanks again for the very informative review!
@jster91 Жыл бұрын
Another question... Should you even bother using these when photographing at a dark sky site like Cherry Springs (Bortle 2)?
@NebulaPhotos Жыл бұрын
Sometimes yes, if it’s a special trip, I’d normally prioritize broadband objects when going to a dark site. However all deep sky photography will work better from a dark site, so if you are going after an emission nebula, esp. a faint one this type of filter will really help bring it out. (At the cost of natural star color, but if you want to get fancy you can capture a second set of data unfiltered just for the stars)
@Veptis2 жыл бұрын
Are there any interesting emission lines in the N band? Around 8-12μm I would love to try ground based observations using uncooled microbolometers
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Not emission lines per se, but the infrared can be very interesting with some nebulae. Especially dusty/dark nebulae. I've been trying to get into this. Check out IR surveys for places to explore: galaxymap.org/mwe/mwe.php
@satanite132 жыл бұрын
Super cool video! Especially measuring the bandpass widths yourself 👏 I had a tangential question regarding filters. How do you manage to focus with so little light coming through the filters? I have a very difficult time nailing focus and I don’t even use a narrow band filter 🥲
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
I find my target without a filter, then add the narrowband filter and focus by taking an 8 second test exposure at high ISO with a Bahtinov Mask on the telescope. I keep taking test exposures moving the focuser a little bit each time until focus is perfect. It takes anywhere from 1 to 10 minutes depending on how lucky I am.
@satanite132 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos ah I see! Thanks! :) I’m going to try this next time
@gregerianne38802 жыл бұрын
Great video and review, Nico. Thanks! How did the filters compare in terms of finding your targets with a DSLR? This seems to be the toughest part of using stringent filters for me.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, Yes, I didn't mention it, but it is a pain. Live view is absolutely useless once you install these filters. Very bright stars come through a bit with the L-eNhance in live view, nothing comes through with the L-eXtreme or Antlia ALP-T. I do initial star alignment and framing with no filter installed. Trying to frame up the target with any of these filters already installed is too annoying for me. After I have everything framed up with no filter, I install the filter and focus. I take 10 second shots at high ISO to focus with a Bahtinov mask. -Nico
@gregerianne38802 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Ah, that's been my experience as well. I tried my Astronomik UHC and IDAS LPS D-3 filters last week and it was a bear to try and find my target (which I completely whiffed on for two of the three nights!), especially from my more light-polluted backyard. From your description, it sounds like it would be even more difficult with the L-eXtreme or Antlia ALP-T filters. I will try the framing-before-inserting-filter (which sounds oddly like brain-in-gear-before-speaking!) technique next time and see how it goes. Thanks again!
@indysbike3014 Жыл бұрын
I use platesolving in APT and no problem finding the target with the L-eXtreme.
@gregerianne3880 Жыл бұрын
@@indysbike3014 Thanks for the reply! Yes, once I got the ASIAir Plus, I started using plate solving and never looked back. Of course, other software (like APT) makes this approach feasible as well. It makes it so much easier to find targets with stringent filters! Thanks again.
@mini14kid7 ай бұрын
there all way over priced ,
@drithen Жыл бұрын
How does the ZWO Dual band filter compare?
@NebulaPhotos Жыл бұрын
Very similar (if not identical) to the L-eNhance.
@alneid27072 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I'm waiting for an L-extreme to be delivered - hopefully before the end of the week. This comparison makes it clear that it will be a huge upgrade from the ZWO dual-band I'm currently using - the ZWO filter has wider band passes then the L-enhance.
@Neanderthal752 жыл бұрын
I have the zwo duo band too, although I haven't complained about it much, beside it causes some halos on some stars, but I've been looking around for another dual band filter.
@NebulaPhotos2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I didn't know that ZWO had one. I'll check it out. I wonder who makes it for them?
@AdmiralSym2 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos i got mine for about $60 and they normally go for $80-100 so a pretty good budget option
@Neanderthal752 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralSym - It's actually not a bad filter by any means, considering the price ! I have taken some very nice images , and there isn't a lot to complain about. I image on Bortle 5 so it might be different at more light polluted areas, I don't know.
@alneid27072 жыл бұрын
@@Neanderthal75 I am also in a Bortle 5-6 setting. My version of the ZWO filter does not produce star halos, but the contrast, especially in OIII leaves a bit to be desired. Still, my images with it are so much better than no filter at all.