Seestar S30 or S50? Full Comparison Review

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Nebula Photos

Nebula Photos

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@samwarfelphotos
@samwarfelphotos 10 күн бұрын
Just thought I’d say, you might be the most stylish and well-dressed astro KZbinr out there.
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 5 күн бұрын
I like his hair. I have noticed a few astro youtubers have longer hair, lol.
@GalacticAstroparticles
@GalacticAstroparticles 10 күн бұрын
That DIY solar finder method is priceless!
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 8 күн бұрын
they are 3D printable as well if you have a 3D printer. I have a bambu lab printer and theres a free solar finder, lens cap, and one of those manual focusing cap with the lines (I forget the name lol) on makerworld.
@Fantic156
@Fantic156 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for this, S30 ordered.... Most interested in 'local' astrophotography. 😊
@TheAstrocast
@TheAstrocast 8 күн бұрын
Great episode, Nico!! Thanks for coming on the show!
@lonetravelerz
@lonetravelerz 10 күн бұрын
Just had first light with my s30 I was blown away.. I became an astrophotographer in one session lol. I’m 100% visual and now with this little work horse I look forward to have best of both worlds.
@-mhayes86
@-mhayes86 8 күн бұрын
Great review! I've had an S50 for about a month now and went with that over the S30 due to higher resolution images on top of adding the framing/mosaic mode to expand its FOV, and love it. I use an 8" Dobsonian for visual astronomy, and these devices are an excellent gateway for astrophotography, especially for myself since I've always been interested, but don't have a whole lot of time to really justify the cost for some photography rigs at the moment. A great feature recently added is a planning mode.
@2010craggy
@2010craggy 9 күн бұрын
Good video. A very balanced analysis. Personally I actually prefer the S30 now as you say for wide field panoramic vistas of nebulae. The S50 still has its place mind for imaging rounder targets like galaxies and star clusters. But, yes I too placed an order for the S30…… just as ZWO dropped “Framing Mode” on the S50! Whilst waiting for the S30 to;arrive I did wonder if therefore there was a need for the smaller S30 now…… But, having used the S30 for a week now here in the UK it’s really grown on me and by using it with framing mode it’s really opened up new compositions and ideas for creative deep sky photography. Whilst with the S50 you can punch in tight for “record” shots, the more open field of the S30 when used with framing really opens up the night skies. They really do complement each other. And another good thing is they’re both fully interchangeable within the app making tandem imaging (imaging two separate targets at once) a breeze. I’m curious now what the Dwarf Labs D3 when it finally drops (believe it’s now released but in very short supply) as so far a lot of reviewers are saying how good an image that also creates. Very interesting times ahead in the fledgling smart scope market.
@brianhogue1671
@brianhogue1671 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing print capabilities. I have been looking for that information, but nobody else talks about it.
@CammieRacing
@CammieRacing 3 күн бұрын
Great video, I bought the S50 in August 2024 and have been loving it. One feature that would be nice would be for it to resume stacking from the previous nights shots! Guess multi night sessions will need to be stacked on Siril or similar.
@joshjnewby
@joshjnewby 9 күн бұрын
The downspout clip might be the best solar tool I have ever seen. Bravo!
@shaunmk
@shaunmk 10 күн бұрын
had my s50 from release, brilliant bit of kit...had an equinox as well...and proper telescopes with astro kit...all sold
@johngoode1346
@johngoode1346 10 күн бұрын
Me too! I have an SS50 at SFRO in Texas and then a SS50 and SS230 at home. I’m in the process of selling all my traditional rigs!
@vidman9691
@vidman9691 10 күн бұрын
Excellent review. I like wide field also. Thus, based on your review, I would go with the S30.
@quantomica
@quantomica 10 күн бұрын
Very informative comparative review of two excellent smart scopes. There is a community of active Seestar users and modders who running the Seestar in Equatorial mode which does help with improving the quality and acceptance rate of images due to less field rotation. Using the community developed seestar alp program, these telescopes can be remotely controlled and proper mosaics ( that can be stitched by external programs ) can be scheduled. Seestar Alp can configure the telescope to keep rejected frames, and one can see the trailed stars which curiously seems to happen often at some sky positions. Hopefully, ZWO will continue to work on the tracking to improve it.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
Ah, good to know! I've also heard that ZWO may be releasing something to do with equatorial mode in software in the future. I don't know how that will compare to the Seestar Alp software, but should be interesting.
@tonydd1735
@tonydd1735 10 күн бұрын
My wife and daughter bought me the ZWO SeeStar S50 for Christmas, l am quite impress with the scope and have taken images of the usual targets Orion, Rosette etc. l bought a few add ons like the Precision Tripod Level Adjuster(about £30) filter holder (2" filters) also lens cover for the 50mm lens. For the tripod l'm using a Skywatcher tripod, has my main Astrophoto equiment is mounted on a cocrete pillar This SeeStar is ideal for holidays abroad for airline carryon and with a couple trips planned this year really l'm looking forward to.
@Naztronomy
@Naztronomy 9 күн бұрын
Great comparison! I just got back from North Carolina where I took the S30. It's not that much smaller than the S50 but I found it much easier to transport in my carry-on. A handful of people got a nice demo of the S30 down south. Clear skies!
@davidthompson9879
@davidthompson9879 9 күн бұрын
Thank you Nico. Another great review
@fotoenvrossi3104
@fotoenvrossi3104 10 күн бұрын
I have the seestar s50 and I find it really convenient to carry around under better skies than my home. One thing I noticed is that despite a good leveling (0.1-0.2) and exposures of only 10 seconds it loses a lot of data (fail stacking - stars trails etc.) in mosaic mode. On average in 1 hour of tracking I only get 15-20 minutes of total data . nice review .
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I had one night where both the S50 or S30 lost a fair amount of data due to star trailing, but I couldn’t pinpoint the source of the issue because most nights they would hardly lose any whether in normal or mosaic mode. I could see how they could be more likely to trail in mosaic mode since they are moving around more to capture the panels. Seems like ZWO is able to keep improving them through software updates so I wouldn’t be surprised if the mosaic mode keeps getting more reliable.
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 10 күн бұрын
Possible Reasons: Your target may be too close to Zenith and so you get a field rotation problem Too windy (better to keep it protected from the wind) Not stable surface you put it on? With new firmware you don't need to level it at all, just eyeballing is enough. It does the leveling calibration at the beginning of the session in which it moves from left to right to calculate how far from true level it is based on the stars. So in this case your true GPS and Time is more important, not the bubble level. Keep the level calibration always on.
@fotoenvrossi3104
@fotoenvrossi3104 9 күн бұрын
@@luboinchina3013 I entered the GPS data manually (I don't have integrated GPS on the tablet) but I'm very close to it in terms of precision, I'd say 95% precision. I'll try with the phone's GPS data
@MaggiesBirds
@MaggiesBirds 6 күн бұрын
Hey I just moved to Spain, hope we'll be on the same peninsula enjoying totality in '26! :)
@JamesHannon-j3q
@JamesHannon-j3q 5 күн бұрын
On printing, I got a great image of the Flame Nebulae and the Horse Head with the Framing mode with the S50. It came out so well I had a 16X20 canvas print made of it and it came out great. My wife even let me hang it in the living room. Exposure time was 1 1/2 hours. I'll have to get some more print paper and send you a copy.
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 10 күн бұрын
@Nebula Photos Please post on your channel that with a dewshield You ALWAYS get better results and better contrast, especially with the moon out. I made myself one for my S50 made of PRINGLES tube that I cut and sprayed black, then used electrical tape to put it on. Just remember to take it off before you close the arm.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@astrostorm4850
@astrostorm4850 8 күн бұрын
i think the s30 got a better sensor right?
@natpick
@natpick 10 күн бұрын
thanks for the video,looking at buying a smart telescope soon so this really helps.
@vzndave
@vzndave 10 күн бұрын
Same leaning towards the s50
@SourojitBh
@SourojitBh 9 күн бұрын
Nice comparison, thanks!
@vzndave
@vzndave 10 күн бұрын
How long does the battery last what can you power it with?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I was testing in very cold conditions (well below freezing) so lithium ion batteries do drain faster. They both would last about 4-4.5 hours in these conditions, while ZWO says 6 hours in normal conditions. On nights where I wanted to test longer than 4 hours, I plugged them into an Apertura All-Night Imaging Supply (a bigger lithium ion battery) that has USB-C ports, but any battery or power supply that can power over USB can be used.
@vzndave
@vzndave 9 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Thanks!
@frederickroberts6523
@frederickroberts6523 3 күн бұрын
I selected the S50 over the S30 due to its superior resolution. The S50's standard field of view lets me observe small galaxies, clusters, and planetary nebulae with good detail. However, I am utilizing the S50 primarily as a visual telescope replacement, where it excels, rather than as an astrophotography rig. Additionally, I own a Dwarf 3, which provides a broader field of view than both Seestar models without sacrificing resolution. Good review, though.
@lylebarron1153
@lylebarron1153 8 күн бұрын
Great review , thanks
@t1ll1s
@t1ll1s 8 күн бұрын
totaly agree with your conclusion and that was why i skipped the s50 and waited until i was able to buy the s30
@coolgamer125bmd6
@coolgamer125bmd6 9 күн бұрын
This is really cool. Also I wanted to see if you can make a video on how to stack photos as a beginner
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
What operating system do you use? Windows, MacOS, Linux? I have several videos where I show stacking photos for beginners, but they are part of larger start to finish videos.
@coolgamer125bmd6
@coolgamer125bmd6 9 күн бұрын
@ I’m more familiar with windows and somewhat Linux
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 8 күн бұрын
@@coolgamer125bmd6 Check out this video I made starting here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIPTZISrlJV-bNEsi=4zcKNoaxqPIeCFay&t=2944 It walks through stacking with Deep Sky Stacker (Windows, free) for complete beginners explaining everything you will need to know
@coolgamer125bmd6
@coolgamer125bmd6 6 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotosthank you
@bulldogbrower6732
@bulldogbrower6732 Күн бұрын
Love the deep sky objects, but waiting for further development in the planetary images.
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 8 күн бұрын
This is very interesting to me. It makes the cheaper and newer S30 look much better for deep space imaging
@weatherandsky
@weatherandsky 8 күн бұрын
Really nice review!! I wonder if the s30 has some focus issues when it comes to solar system objects in general and perhaps there is a firmware fix? Many of the s30 sun/moon images that I've seen look blurry to me more than just it being a resolution issue.
@chanwheeler8296
@chanwheeler8296 9 күн бұрын
I attach with velcro a Talent Cell LiFP04 battery (76.8 Wh lithium 12.8v 6Ah) to the side of my Seestar S50 and shoot either one object , or several objects using the new Plan mode, and battery on Seestar is 100% in the morning. Could handle easily several nights of use.
@thorshammer5166
@thorshammer5166 9 күн бұрын
Well done! Thank you!
@alandyer910
@alandyer910 10 күн бұрын
Excellent comparison, thank you! What’s been your experience with the two models re: the ratio of rejected frames vs accepted frames in a typical run? Is the S30 any better? It seems that ratio has become worse in the S50 of late. So much so that building a mosaic has proven difficult as it never accumulates enough successful frames. What’s the secret to success?! Thanks!
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
Thanks Alan. I did have one night where I was getting a lot of rejected frames with both models. I thought it was just a fluke so I didn’t include mention of it in the review, but you’re the second person to mention this issue on mosaic mode, so maybe it wasn’t as flukey as I thought.
@lapsy9496
@lapsy9496 8 күн бұрын
J'adore mon S50, le mode mosaïque et le nouveau mode plan sont extras. La résolution aussi du S50 est top. Il y a aussi le IA Denoise qui fonctionne très bien. Personnellement, je n'ai pas besoin du S30 en plus. Merci beaucoup pour cette excellente vidéo
@philluvschips3787
@philluvschips3787 10 күн бұрын
I'll be in Spain in 2026 for the next Eclipse, looks like I'll be packing the S30, unless something supercedes it by then, this field moves quick in a year.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
For sure! I bet with the success of the Seestars and Dwarfs that this market will just got bigger and more competitive.
@thomashendricks9774
@thomashendricks9774 8 күн бұрын
So what you are saying is that you need both, got it.
@charliezicolillo
@charliezicolillo 9 күн бұрын
Hi so would the photos from either S30 or S50 be good to sell.Which one would you recommend.Will you be doing a video of all the other smart telescopes to compare.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
Selling astrophotography is incredibly difficult. I wouldn't count on it. Selling prints is way more about finding an audience and understanding how to sell work that resonates with them. I talk about it a bit in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKXIgGqba6qbeM0 I am not sure about a video comparing all the smart scopes, I think Galactic Hunter has already done that, but of course new ones come out all the time.
@richardlighthill3228
@richardlighthill3228 8 күн бұрын
Great comparison video! When printed out on A4 or Letter size, when both images are taking in the same field (S30 cropped, of course) did you notice enough detail loss in the S30 ?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 8 күн бұрын
I did not crop the S30 field in that print comparison. It was the full image from both. While I wouldn't suggest cropping in the S30 image before printing, from past experience if your SNR is good enough it can work, esp. if you drizzle or upsample before printing. Good SNR (signal to noise ratio) comes from piling on the hours of integration.
@shinyy187
@shinyy187 10 күн бұрын
How noticeable was the undersampling on the s30 compared to the better-sampled s50?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I like how stars look undersampled so I'm not the right person to ask for deep sky. But for Solar/Lunar/Planetary, the sampling difference is obvious. Hopefully that came across in the video, but I'll upload my sample images tonight and put a link in the description for you to see what you think.
@0NetKidz0
@0NetKidz0 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison review. The solar filter doesn't cover the wide angle lens on S30. Would it been damaged when doing long sessions like time-lapse?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 8 күн бұрын
No, it’s too small / wide angle to cause any issue, same as a smartphone
@0NetKidz0
@0NetKidz0 8 күн бұрын
@NebulaPhotos Thanks.
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 5 күн бұрын
​@@NebulaPhotosI was wondering about that as well. Interesting :)
@ShizProduct
@ShizProduct 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! Interesting to see all these developments with smart telescopes. Maybe I missed it, but it seems you didn't say which was which telescope when comparing the prints?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
The S30 is on the left with both sets of prints. The on-screen text made it at 14:57, but I apparently forgot to add it when I switched to the mosaic prints at 15:30, thanks for the catch
@retirednavychief6983
@retirednavychief6983 9 күн бұрын
I have been struggling with a Dwarflab. I'm thinking of investing in a SeeStar as it appears much easier to align and track than the Dwarflab.
@dobromirdragomirov5257
@dobromirdragomirov5257 9 күн бұрын
The S30 has a bit richer colors (look at the bottom right it has a purple tint), on the prints. Also, the dust around the stars is more visible and detailed, looking at the prints. All of this is thanks to the new sensor the S30 has.
@RayGarza-sr3zj
@RayGarza-sr3zj 9 күн бұрын
What printer were you using to make the prints?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
Canon Pixma Pro-100, which has been replaced by the Pro-200. If you are looking to buy a photo printer, wait for a very good sale. I got mine for very cheap. While the inks and papers are expensive, I enjoy home printing as another part of the hobby. I did a video on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKXIgGqba6qbeM0
@bradmiller3557
@bradmiller3557 9 күн бұрын
Is it required to process the photos in software as one does for general astrophotography.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
My deep sky shots were processed in software, while the lunar, solar, planetary are straight from the device. It does give you basic stacks of the deep sky images, but a lot more can be brought out with processing on the computer. I showed the comparison in my previous S50 review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIOvmJV5gN1pjtU
@bradmiller3557
@bradmiller3557 9 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Thank you very much for your time posting a reply, and your professional expertise.
@mariospenard5125
@mariospenard5125 10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@joaodrhmp
@joaodrhmp 4 күн бұрын
Hello! I'm from Brazil. I live in Macapá, the capital of the state of Amapá. Practically on the equator. Therefore, I struggle with polar alignment in order to do astrophotography, so I would like to know from you if these S30 or S50 telescopes check polar alignment before starting the night session.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 3 күн бұрын
There is some talk about adding an 'EQ mode' in which case you would polar align the Seestar, but so far that is not official, and these are strictly alt-az telescopes. This means they do not need to be polar aligned in any way. So everything I showed in the video can be done without polar alignment, and latitude won't matter.
@joaodrhmp
@joaodrhmp 3 күн бұрын
@ Thank you very much! I am very happy to have my question answered on such a relevant channel on the internet. Thank you!
@markbabbitt1472
@markbabbitt1472 3 күн бұрын
images JPG or RAW?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 3 күн бұрын
The Solar/Lunar/Planetary images I showed were the JPEGs. The Deep Sky images were processed from the FITS (raw).
@RonGrethel
@RonGrethel 9 күн бұрын
So I am literally just starting this hobby. I found a Meade etx 60 for $60. I just ordered a telescope camera to pair with it. Any suggestions for a diy smart telescope 😂
@barrettfanning6746
@barrettfanning6746 8 күн бұрын
Have you tested the Dwarf 3 ? If so, can you comment as a comparison. Thanks.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 8 күн бұрын
I wasn't sent one, but I think others on KZbin have already compared it to the S30.
@barrettfanning6746
@barrettfanning6746 8 күн бұрын
Thanks. I’ll search.
@michaelkraus1826
@michaelkraus1826 9 күн бұрын
I am waiting for your thoughts about the Celestron Origin on this channel....
@mikecmp
@mikecmp 9 күн бұрын
I didn't see you do this in your video, but instead of using the joystick with the S30, one of the cooler things is you can tap on the wide field image and have the scope point there. I have used that a good deal to find birds and things like that easier. The other neat thing, for some folks at least, is that it can actually track something in the FOV, like an animal. I know you focus on astro-related uses, and I generally do too, but I found that for watching birds and other fun things (since its cloudy so much its one of the only things to watch at the moment LOL) the S30 has some advantages. Thanks for doing the print comparison. I would like you to perhaps do something else in a future video, if you have interest or time, which is try out the planning feature for shooting a mosaic in the normal way - planning out individual panels and stacking them on the computer. I have found this to be a superior way to get good SNR - Before the planning or built in mosaic modes this is how I shot mosaics on the S50. The built in planner will make this process much better down the road., since you could gather frames night after night.
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry 6 күн бұрын
For me too, it would be the S30 - and not for price. Yes, the S50 has the advantage when it comes to planetary (and sun/moon) photography, but both these little telescopes are obviously compromised in that direction. So, money might be better spent on a different setup if that's your main interest?
@风满楼-q9r
@风满楼-q9r 10 күн бұрын
Can S30/S50 save the raw images for post processing?
@SirMopy
@SirMopy 10 күн бұрын
yes
@风满楼-q9r
@风满楼-q9r 10 күн бұрын
@@SirMopy thanks
@spookysandwich1355
@spookysandwich1355 10 күн бұрын
thoughts on the these vs Dwarf3 like on image quality ect ..??
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I didn't get sent the Dwarf3, so I'm not sure, but I think other KZbinrs have already compared them. From the snippets I saw, I think the Dwarf3 is definitely competitive, esp. since it offers the Equatorial mode, which isn't an officially supported option with the Seestars (although some still do it). The advantage with an EQ mode is that long integrations (over an hour in a single night) will get some serious field rotation issues that need to be cropped out making the field of view even smaller. Mosaic mode fixes this since it is taking panels where the field rotation issues disappear, but if you don't want to do a mosaic, an EQ mode would be nice.
@spookysandwich1355
@spookysandwich1355 10 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos thanks for your super fast response good sir still waiting on my D3 in the UK but as you say the EQ mode is quite a game changer and now especially as they have upped the exposure times to 120 secs which is insane ive seen a few other channels of some of their thoughts but always like to get as many opinions as possible even though i have already commited to buy the D3 i had a HEQ5 mount and was using Z6 and 600mm Sigma lens which worked really well and running it with NINA was a dream , i eventually sold the mount as couldnt afford a full setup or take it anywhere with any sense and the D3 really covered all bases , and i think the way these smart scopes are going i can only imagine what they will be like in say 5 years time
@calex64
@calex64 10 күн бұрын
Is it just me or does the S30 seem to have better stars and more details/stronger signal in the boogeyman nebula ?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I tried my best to process them the same, but I agree that the S30 worked better on the Boogeyman. The Pleiades was more of a tossup. I'll upload my sample images tonight and put a link in the description for you to see what you think.
@xusiaxod6255
@xusiaxod6255 9 күн бұрын
Stupid question here. How can they take such brilliant and detailed images of galaxies and nebulae so far away but are crap at planets and the moons so nearby?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
Not a stupid question. Although we can’t see them with the naked eye because they are very dim, nebulae are actually quite large in our sky due to their massive size. If they were as bright as the moon and planets, the sky would appear FULL of nebulae. In terms of apparent size many are 5-10 full moons across. Here is a short video I made on this subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYPHZJKoqN-jgas
@What_Other_Hobbies
@What_Other_Hobbies 9 күн бұрын
2:35 S30 found my star. 😊
@astrostorm4850
@astrostorm4850 8 күн бұрын
s30 deffintly picks up more detail
@TheLandbo
@TheLandbo 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. It is actually not necessary to adjust the S30 horizontally as it compensates for any inaccuracy. You just have to remember to put the S30 in the place it is supposed to be before turning it on, otherwise the S30 may well demand and be put in a horizontal position. The same should supposedly also apply to the S50 with the new software. Experience tells me that a photo tripod is far too unstable to hold an S30 when it is windy, use the one provided instead.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
I should have explained. I'm was using them in 3-4 feet of snow, so the tripod that comes with the S30 doesn't work for me. I agree that generally lower is better for stability against wind, but there are other options there like weighting the tripod down or using a wind block. I'm not sure what you mean by putting the S30 in the place it is supposed to be? I am using the newest software, and the S30 never asks to be leveled, while the S50 only does in Solar mode. In Deep Sky and Lunar mode, they both perform the horizontal adjustments, but this does require a large patch of open sky to work. If either direction is blocked by trees, it fails. Was considering including this, but it got cut for time.
@TheLandbo
@TheLandbo 10 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos It is not easy and communicates through Google translate. I have discovered that if you try to move the S30 after it has started up, the app will ask that the S30 be placed in a horizontal plane so that the two white dots turn green. This is because the S30 has calculated how many degrees it is tilted in the horizontal plane. So therefore place the S30 where it should be on the ground/building and turn it on. I do not have an S50 but know that the S30 uses the same function to follow the sun/moon as you find to follow an object in senery mode. Therefore, I would assume that it is a bug in the software that the S50 asks to be aligned in a horizontal plane.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
Ah, I understand now, thanks
@scottm599
@scottm599 10 күн бұрын
Sorry… Not fully following. Is it the case that the S 30 does not need to be precisely leveled whereas the S 50 does?
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
@@scottm599 Neither the S30 nor the S50 need to be precisely leveled anymore. ZWO introduced a horizontal adjustment procedure that can accommodate for the telescope being a bit out of level. The only time I've been asked to level the Seestar is in solar mode with the S50, and TheLandbo was saying that may be a software bug because in their experience the Seestar should now only asked to be leveled if you move it after startup / initialization.
@TheCarlos2679
@TheCarlos2679 10 күн бұрын
They are cool toys...
@nigelsmith721
@nigelsmith721 9 күн бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but I'd have thought that "finding the sun" and "finding the moon" would be the simplest task for an astro camera...
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
Astro gear finds things automatically using star patterns to figure out what it's pointed at. The Sun is particularly difficult because there are no star patterns during the day for it to use a frame of reference. The Moon is a bit easier, but still can be difficult because it so bright that it washes out all the stars near it, especially when full.
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 10 күн бұрын
@Nebula Photos Please, last thing to compare: Which one is better at tracking rockets at rocket launches? Bring to next SpaceX rocket launch to see which one tracks better. I tried S50 and it tracked pretty well for the first 30 seconds, but then it lost it because the angular speed was too fast for S50 to keep tracking it
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 10 күн бұрын
Interesting. I assume you were tracking it manually with the on screen joystick?
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 8 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos Automatic tracking. I actually even didn't notice the launch for the first two seconds, at which Seestar was already tracking it automatically. What was even more amazing, it was through a huge fog and against the sun. Scenery mode, tracking on
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 8 күн бұрын
@@luboinchina3013 Wow, impressive! Thanks for letting me know
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 8 күн бұрын
@@NebulaPhotos You're welcome😊
@alpsalish
@alpsalish 9 күн бұрын
I just can't understand why anyone would find the S30 acceptable for anything other than smartphone viewing. Why don't you enjoy galaxies and galaxy clusters/groups? Also, really good cluster photos? Is it the expense or the tolerances required?
@ShadowPeashooter-u4l
@ShadowPeashooter-u4l 10 күн бұрын
Dwarf 2 vs Dwarf 3
@richiebricker
@richiebricker 6 күн бұрын
Wow, that tripod on the s30 is sad. The one for the s50 is not expensive , maybe $20 and the s30 is 4 bucks. They look like great telescopes although they are of little use in places like california as you would have to drive 200 miles just to use them. We have to go with big 10 inch by 5 foot buckets. none of which have starfinders and sometimes its hard to find the full moon even though your pointed right at it
@ÐianaMK
@ÐianaMK 8 күн бұрын
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@DanieleBordignon
@DanieleBordignon 3 күн бұрын
Why don't you simply say they are not good for planetary? 🤨
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 3 күн бұрын
I do.
@markmcilroy3474
@markmcilroy3474 Күн бұрын
Would love one of these but in Australia they are way too expensive. The S30 is over $800 here. Average person here can't afford to spend that sort of money on a hobby. With the extremely high cost of living in Australia we can hardly afford to pay rent, let alone have a hobby. If anyone wants free sex? Come to Australia. You'll get screwed financially as soon as you arrive.
@wiwibaguette6683
@wiwibaguette6683 10 күн бұрын
wouldnt recommend the s30, the models ive gotten has very bad star elongation on the edges to the middle
@sapientemsapientem80
@sapientemsapientem80 8 күн бұрын
not true the s50 is better with the new upgrade
@sHuRuLuNi
@sHuRuLuNi 9 күн бұрын
Neither.
@Shoopshoop
@Shoopshoop 9 күн бұрын
Which one would you recommend
@sk7262
@sk7262 9 күн бұрын
the thrill of looking at it through ones own eyes is gone. this is a one trick pony where averted vision and astronomy is deflated. this product will soon be on all market places after 2-3 uses. high price short lived hobby WWW images can do much better and most people won't have the patience let alone clearing the DEW for a 2hr exposure session. not sure if this is a paid promo??? its a market that doesn't exist really with the internet when all your interaction is via an app and you can't explore on your own; buy a basic telescope 2+ the aperture for 1/4 the price and learn.....
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 9 күн бұрын
It is not a paid promo. I don't do paid reviews. My review policy is here: www.nebulaphotos.com/reviews/ I understand that people have strong feelings about smart telescopes. My goal is just to show what they are capable of and not editorialize.
@NMHC1978
@NMHC1978 5 күн бұрын
Thanks to Trump his Tariffs the Price of ZWO material as the S30 and S50 will rise in the US. IN europe we alreday have tariffs (import Tax). For example the S30 cost 349 euro. Wel thanks to the Tariffs you need to add 150 euro to the total price not including postage. Thats also the raison why the S50 cost 700 euro in Europe. o yes and it will be for all imports.
@patadamson9296
@patadamson9296 2 күн бұрын
I will be unsubscribing to all American channels, hope you understand
@atilanunesfox
@atilanunesfox 3 күн бұрын
Fake imagens.
@NebulaPhotos
@NebulaPhotos 3 күн бұрын
Nope, all real. Here's the images used in the video for you to take a look: tinyurl.com/SeestarS30vS50
@ÐianaMK
@ÐianaMK 8 күн бұрын
Can you help me 🙏 pleased 😀 😊 ☺️
@tom-qk3jf
@tom-qk3jf 7 күн бұрын
Neither.
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