NEBULOSSA "Zorra" Reaction to Benidorm Fest 2024 live performance

[@hugosnow6092]

Los eurofans españoles estamos hartos de que año tras año enviemos propuestas de calidad musical y vocal y que nunca sean valoradas... Esta vez no nos importa no ganar..VAMOS A DIVERTIRNOS Y A DISFRUTAR❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@JanBors]

actually they got valued but important is what you say at the end! ❤️🙏

[@starsanz19]

Di que sí ♥🦊

[@FranciscoMartin-mc3ly]

As a Spaniard, I am very happy that Nebulossa represents us at Eurovision 2024. Nobody gave a single euro for them, with their low budget and the criticism they have received for their vocal quality and against all those walls, Nebulossa came out on top... And because ? Because ? If there were singers with better vocal quality... Yes there were... And my respects to all the participants at the Benidorm Fest; But for a song to be good, you don't have to have a great voice... How many world-renowned and well-known artists are there who don't have a great voice!?? Admitted by themselves. And "ZORRA" is an anthem against the sexism of a percentage of men in society, who try to disqualify women by calling them bitches and also for that "sector" of women who also try to belittle your life by calling you a bitch. !! Simply out of pure envy. That's the bitch message and it's very big!! But the song also has spark and is danceable, where it has been seen that the public sings with the artist and sings backing vocals, without being world-famous and highly consecrated!? In Sweden that stadium will become the coliseum and its gladiors will be: NEBULOSSA!!!!

[@JanBors]

thats actually expected when tickets are bought primarly by hc fans... I am glad for Nebulossa to represent the country, after all its not her fault. She gave her best. I am on one hand glad, that Spain dont take Eurovision seriously. On the other hand they should give this privilage to a country who does and try to go through semifinals like the most.

[@mariansantos-co6kd]

Is not that Spain doesn't take seriously the contest, it's at round, Eurovision has treated very bad Spain and the fact it goes to final is because it is one of the "owners" of the contest and put more money to the contest than the others

[@G_RAM_CR]

Hey @JanBors - Watching your channel for the very 1st time bro .... I would like to understand better the answer you gave above. I really don't think it's fair/correct to say "if Spain is not taking it seriously they should give this privilege to another country who does". (In reference to direct pass to the final) To have fun with it doesn't mean (necessarily) to not taking it seriously Unless either the broadcaster or the artist itself declare they no taking it seriously, we should not support that statement just because the fandom mention it. If there's a national final, a whole production involved, money invested, how could we just say they're not taking it seriously? Either jury or televote decision, choices are made ... even if the winner is not my personal favorite, but that's another matter. You seem to be a cool guy and I know your intentions are not offessive or malicious I just wanted to understand better your thoughts on Spain this year.

[@LAUVERLL]

The jury has valued the pack, not just the voice. That you have a great habit of valuing voices. Last year we had an extraordinary voice and we were 17th. Croatia 2023 and Moldova 2022 won the televoting without having strong voices. Televoters want fun, something that makes them happy or makes them dance.

[@JanBors]

there will be such music. Big 5 countries have responsibility over Eurovision, they also have granted finals. Juries are not there to please peoples taste, that why you have juries. They are there to also add profesionalism and this comes also with vocals. Because - package can change, the staging, choreographx, visuals, this is all articial. But the voice / vocal is real. And this will be a sad viewing. And just one claim - if peope outvotes jury, I would be absolutely fine with it. But it is a scandal that jury voted for a singer who just simply cannot sing. Then we just rly can have robots on stage just for fun if this package is a case.

[@JanBors]

and btw 17th was amazing score for Spain. Second best after Chanel in years. The song was ununderstandable for Europe unless few others and again jury was mistaken. Kinda believe Spain should do international juries like norway or sweden. 10 countries, 50 people from profi scene. Not 6 people

[@TheLiverage]

She won and she will go to the contest representing Spain

[@JanBors]

I know. :)

[@theobenkaya]

🤣@@JanBors

[@enriquecalvonavarro1955]

Hello, Spanish here. In case anyone is interested or wants to know the context of the song, the word "zorra" (in Spanish, it is the feminine of the animal fox) has been used as an insult to refer to girls who are "so sexually active" (basically the prostitutes/slut/bitch girls), or also the girls who could be classified as "rebels". The intention of this song is that the meaning of "zorra" stops being an insult and becomes a synonym for female empowerment.

[@nachovillaro7750]

Just to make it clear, "zorra" means "bitch", "slut".

[@JanBors]

staging looks more like men empowerment

[@FabianMarSo]

You Can see that in the video but, the staging showed a different concept. Very, VERY different.

[@antonionavasrendon9237]

This song is great by the lyrics, music and spirit.

[@hericvzla]

EUROPE WE DEDICATE THIS TO YOU: ZORRA ZORRA ZORRA 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JanBors]

you did

[@erebos02]

I don’t think vocals are AS important when they have a good song, like Kaarija last year. I don’t think they are gonna win because semi final 2 has the strongest songs in my opinion but she has this charm that makes her unique among other ones.

[@JanBors]

actually I thing that was the reason what cost Finland the win. So it is important. But it depends. In a right combination it does not to be a main thing but it must be at least ok. With the rest I totally agree with you.

[@dvd24es]

❤❤🦊💕🦊

[@FabianMarSo]

Before winning, this song aimed to be a female empowerment anthem, seeking to reclaim the word "Zorra," which men use to offend women who feel free to be as they wish. Now, the song's lyrics are predominantly used as an anthem by the gay community, once again showcasing their power to change a concept originally meant for women. It’s kind of sad.

[@lazarohernandezcollados8994]

🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊

[@rafaishbiliya]

ZORRA❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@oscarcuber2478]

I totally agree with everything...i have to say the 3 of the 4 spanish juries are not known for their lyrics or quality of their music

[@JanBors]

but that does not make them relevant, I also cannot compose a song but can be juror

[@JOSE-nr5kq]

The song translate to english: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bae1hJV5l6x0aJosi=d6hWvrOXigJTtHNT

[@maribelcat6952]

Europeans think they are open-mind. But they are not. In Spain people are more open mind than you.

[@JanBors]

being open minded also means to dont be worried to say you dont like something but let it also be what is it

[@felixtalavera5912]

Por fin en España no nos importa lo que piense Europa!! 🦊 🦊 🦊

[@maribelcat6952]

@@JanBors Don’t be afraid of loosing your masculinity just warching a man’s body. Don’t be afraid of being a bit ZORRA 😘 This is part of the message 😉

[@AugustoNicolai]

Los bailarines son un fuego 🔥🦊

[@JuansBlanes]

This is an anthem of empowerment. The voice will be greatly improved when Europe sings it at the same time. This song and dancers are not suitable for closed minds.

[@JanBors]

Anthems of empowerment works unviolent way. This is virtue signaling by staging. The song itself basically violates its purpose on stage. Why? Idk... but it does it.

[@HistorialChannel]

I like music...I like choreography...but HEY! what's happening?... I'm not gay. I like dance but I'm not gay, I'm just looking to comment on it. Good song when I close my eyes. I'm not gay....Nice butts, what a shame I'm not gay... Jan, finally a straight man commenting on the video for us. We like it and we have no problem with... whatever anyone thinks but... we are not gay.

[@JanBors]

good than, I have more problem with vocals, this staging is more virtue signaling and not pleasant for my eyes at all but whay not. People can lika various things :)

[@chanbara3]

I don't understand either how they won the juries. I can only think it is because the crowd sang this as crazy and they were really close so they blend in with their joy and forgot about her being out of tune a couple of times.

[@JanBors]

can be many reasons, the show had very good energy also

[@inakiabril8861]

Puritan MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JanBors]

I just dont like virtue signaling and also dont like to watch non-aesteist things. Thats it, not a big deal.

[@MarcosBellet]

She did much better in the final

[@JanBors]

she did not but people loved it :)

[@ayoubmextress65]

@@JanBorsshe did , stay safe tho xx 💋

[@oyemarta]

As a Spaniard I will support her, but she did not, dear@@ayoubmextress65 deal with it.

[@adrimacias1421]

Amigo, gabar jurados no pero si kariija que no cantana una mierds quedo en el top 10 y el chipriota andrew tambien, que me estas contando hermano.

[@JanBors]

What do you mean? I dont get it :D

[@pablorodriguezmangas9051]

But be serious please, you told that you don’t like literally you said “another disco song”

[@JanBors]

yes, in studio version - there were like 10 of them? Live performance was very undewelming but as a music it kinda works. Ofc staging excluding this virtue signaling would be much better and singing also is bellow any standard but as a tribute to the fascinating Nebulossa its nice. For Spainish eurovision reputation and Eurovision in general its itresponsible decision but so what. It is what it is and I try to find possitives on it also. For sure will make a video with different POVs.

[@oyemarta]

Well, the vocals are not on point, but if we compare last year Käärijä (from Finland) placed the 2nd and Blanca Paloma placed 18th, (or La Zarra 17th for example). So...

[@JanBors]

And I think you sum up the Spanish issue - like most of the "looser" countries - sees the problems where are not. I need to do a video about it. Exactly the developement - big breath of hope (Chanel) -> lets send something we love but no one understands (Blanca Paloma) -> troll eurovision saying and saying it does not matter (Nebulossa) The problem is - it matters, especially for big5 country. This stereotype must be broken. You cannot compare Kaarija to Blanca as his song was universally understandable or La Zarra which song was killed by staging and average performance, he was not perfect singing but he was on point (unless your representative rly cannot hit a single note now) and even though you have a song which is catchy this year, you did yourself a bad favors long term. As damages are harder to overcome than successes. Don't forget that as you are automatically in the finals unless most of countries, you should prove every year that you deserve to be in the finals. And also lead the example. When your artist win public voting by 5k votes, where even in Norway, which is 10 times smaller, winner receives 80k votes.... that speaks for itself where is the problem. It is not outside the Spain for sure.

[@adrimacias1421]

Listillo España no tiene que demostrar estar en la final porque para eso paga parte del show junto con los otros cuatro grandes, agradecidos deberían de estar de que gracias a eso cinco países hay fiesta y siempre les castigan enviándolos a los últimos lugares, da igual lo lleven, el año de Chanel a España le roban por la guerra y a blanca el año pasado dejándola novena cuando era la mejor voz del año pasado karrija y loreen por delante es que te tienes que reír macho.

[@nunoeiranunoeira7650]

If the singer knew how to sing, she would easily win

[@JanBors]

she still can

[@joseluispastor6803]

You see, you do not like the dancers dresing that way because they are men, and you would have said nothing about it if the dancers were ladys. Think on it. In fact the lirics is about empowering women and the boy dancers reinforce teh mesage of the song.

[@JanBors]

who knows? no way to find out, right? I just rly dont like thid

[@CarmenRodriguezCabrera-ue5rs]

Y fueran chicas?? qué pensaste de Channel también enseñaba nalgas?? La puesta de escena va de eso . Porque siempre son las mujeres la wue lleva poca ropa y no los chicos.? La cancion aunque es un alegato feminista también es una critica a toda la moral impuesta por esta sociedad patriarcal

[@CarmenRodriguezCabrera-ue5rs]

Los chicos además de grandes bailares son también un símbolo.

[@JanBors]

First - its a context, so in this context I just did not like it. I dont hate it but it also made me focus on someone else than artist. Which was exactly opposite to Channel. Even though whoever can wear whatever. Also whoever can like whatever and go on. Its clear.

[@yo7veces]

I am quiet surprise reading here that vocals are not important 😳 yes, is a catchy song, is a good song with most imp great lyrics, but will be understood just for Spanish speakers and message wont be delivered for most of the viewers. She does not sing well. She is a 4.5 out of 10. Her actitud is not enough to cover her vocal weakness as she is too plain. And yes. Spain had better singers, but it is what it is. Kind of joke kind of proud.

[@JanBors]

this is an approach!