You Are Not Rational

[@MiyamotoMick]

This analysis certainly explains why so many debates/discussions tend to lead to heated exchanges. We're all too personally attached to the ideas and beliefs that we hold, and struggle to separate the logic behind those ideas from how they make us feel, especially when they're being challenged and stressing us out. Thanks for this Neel! Very insightful.

[@alpha9775]

The biology of this is really interesting. You're a great speaker of contemporary issues.

[@britasha1194]

This video was probably very healthy for my brain... thankyou Neel.

[@jesselawrence-brown8912]

This is a somewhat surprisingly informative video, I definitely wasn't expecting such an in depth analysis of such a nuanced subject. 10/10 Top tier content good sir.

[@Randomkloud]

i wasnt prepared for a truth bomb, i just wanted to have breakfast.

[@froyothewolf]

I’m not rational, I’m tired.

[@hreedwork]

Holy Moly! Thank you... Haven't heard that type of connected holistic essay style since Dave Cullens left the internet (circa 2016-7)... This type of big picture perspective is very much needed 😎👍🙏

[@officerj4371]

We all have biases. This is true. Our ability to think rationally is constrained to a significant degree by our emotions, psychology and the society we live in. This is also true. But we should all aspire to be as rational as possible and to overcome our respective biases. To commit ourselves to truth and to distinguish facts (which are objective) from moral values (which are subjective). This is very difficult to achieve at all let alone consistently but it's not impossible. Be it individually or collectively. Fascinating video nonetheless, Neel.

[@Danobot11]

Even more tricky, all motivation is value driven, and therefore inherently emotional. The reasons we examine anything at all is motivated by some sort of value. However…Learning to “emotionally” value a detached objectivity helps in an ironic way, but people ought to be aware of how emotions cannot be detached from logic.

[@adorablechrysalis7386]

@@Danobot11idk I mean you can say that the intrictic motivation is emotional. But you can still say to be in a state of detachment

[@Nate_R_]

Once upon a time, we had a prevailing wisdom that categorised discussion of certain topics as faux pas or taboo, frowned upon socially due to the poor resulting outcomes associated with indulgence in the discussion of inflammatory topics. That used to be a short list of; don't talk about religion, sex, money, or politics in public. Don't make assumptions, don't speak out of turn, don't judge people and don't correct people. Mind your manners. It's pretty simple and it did allow everyone to get along, for the most part.

[@comradecam9530]

When was this great time of utopia you speak of?

[@Nate_R_]

@@comradecam9530 When did I mention a great time of utopia? Stop being a devicive clown.

[@roguetrooperblue]

Why would speaking about money be a problem? I understand the other three but money i dont get.

[@Nate_R_]

@@roguetrooperblue I assume it's based along the lines of class distinctions causing problems in civil conversation

[@Marscompany]

@@roguetrooperblue some people might wanna use the info to their advantage when they know that one has financial problems or a well filled bank account

[@plasticspoon60]

Yes everyone has a biases. Even a rational critical thinker has come to the conclusions he has because the information he has consumed. That doesnt mean that the worldview is irrational and largely emotional.

[@nelsonphillips]

cognitive science says the worldview of humans is irrational and emotional. Neel was still only half right, which is still better than you. (edit: this is a response to a much different claim to the heavily edited one above, when you are wrong just pretend you weren't🙄)

[@plasticspoon60]

@@nelsonphillips How would one come to that conclusion?

[@plasticspoon60]

@@nelsonphillips Also Isnt that a contradiction? If every world view is inherently irrational and emotional, then how can we trust that conclusion. It would also be emotional and irrational.

[@nelsonphillips]

@@plasticspoon60 brain structure is built up in layers. Info comes in, gets filtered in old parts of the nervous system. That then goes to basic parts of the brain that amplify and distribute to the rest of the brain that will build our thoughts. After that those "thoughts" then get translated into either actions or filter/amplified to go back into being reconstructed into thoughts.

[@nelsonphillips]

@@plasticspoon60 pretty much, us monkey are pretty unsophisticated even though we have convinced ourselves otherwise. Emotion and irrationality can be confirmed or denied, that is how our thoughts are constructed. now you are an instant expert in cognitive science

[@TheTpointer]

My worldview is 90% molded by the algorythm that generates my social media timelines. There is no tribe left! I m becoming one with the machine!

[@fredericdouglas3574]

1:57 "palms would be sweaty, knees weak and heavy" - you forgot to mention mom's spaghetti. 🍝

[@admiralsn4ckb4r30]

I was looking for this comment

[@cirtainrod9492]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Swegnemite]

bro turned into eminem for a sec

[@TheTpointer]

17:00 minutes of what I already know and believe to be true. Neel, pls stop reading my mind :)

[@dario5178]

Someone's been reading Nietzsche

[@lezlez121]

At like 2 mins in did any1 else's brain say Mom's spaghetti?

[@Rationalist101]

Damn right.

[@rylandscott7541]

This is amazing Neel!

[@rylandscott7541]

+ I hope to see a Neel and Jordan podcast on this topic one day (maybe there is one that I've missed I'm not sure)

[@staC-wh6ik]

Very interesting points and good video. We are all emotionals and that's why we have to control our instincts and strive for a balance between a heuristic process and a systematic one. However, the problem with what is nowadays called "culture war" is that it is frequently shown as a new phenomenon but it's nothing new, culture clashes have been a constant of humanity since ancient times. We now experience them in a faster way than before because of the speed of modern technology and the globalization of communication and interactions.

[@Sitbear]

This video misses a very big concept, which is that of intellectualism vs. anti-intellectualism. While it's true the left, right, and center are all motivated by emotion, there is a far stronger tendency for the right to distrust scientific consensus, educational institutions, and artistic or philosophical projects. Rationality is not something easily predicted by politics, but politics can predictably favor or disfavor intellectualism.

[@JedPotts-jv2ux]

the right distrust "scientific consensus, educational institutions, and artistic or philosophical projects" because the illusion of knowledge is far more dangerous than the absence of knowledge, and ultimately we're all getting our information from the same source: journalists. and we're all a bunch of monkeys who think we're rational despite the fact that we're emotional, NONE of us are rational, NONE. those who believe they are rational are delusional and dangerous, because they think "i am right because i am rational, others are wrong because they are irrational" and it leads them to justify "punishing everyone who disagrees with me because if they disagree with me they're irrational". and when you've studied science at university, you see how atrociously bad most science journalism is, scientists are a bunch of contentious argumentative people desperately seeking to break the old consensus by proving someone else wrong, because part of learning science is learning about how horrifyingly wrong we've been in the past. the scientist who discovered germ theory was dismissed early on, believed to be an insane fool, because at the time the "scientific consensus" disagreed with him and he had no option but to spend DECADES dismantling it so that people could see the truth that germs ARE real and DO cause disease. and "brilliant scientist discovers new truth and has to spend decades fighting the 'established consensus' to get people to see the truth" happens over and over and over again throughout history. science is not a religious scripture, its a process. and "science enthusiasts" are the single greatest threat science has seen since the church burnt people at the stake for heresy. the church has since stopped doing that, but educational institutions love blacklisting scientists who disagree with the consensus because it threatens the ability of those institutions to secure funding. if a scientist discovers that "oh actually this huge problem we were super worried about isn't actually as bad as we thought", administrators panic because "holy shit we're gonna lose $100billion in funding if this gets out" and that scientists gets treated as a heretic. anti-intellectualism isn't a rejection of science, its the accusation that institutions and individuals have betrayed science for their own selfish interests. even in the old days, the catholic church vehmently insisted "witchcraft doesn't exist" and yet self-appointed "god enthusiasts" outside the church went around burning women alive for reading books because "thats witchcraft" and the same shit is happening today with "science enthusiasts" who think they have authority on the subject because they did science in grade 12, and it happens because as a species we're all dogmatic zealots, its literally not possible for us to be rational, and when we believe "we're rational and we're correct" we do horrible things to the people who disagree with us.

[@DerSwaggeryD]

I love these Essays. Keep it up. 💪🏻

[@symbungee]

WHAT have you been reading recently? Thinking Fast and Slow?

[@kevinbeck8836]

I just came here for the confirmation bias

[@williamkazak469]

My ancestors have nothing to do with me right now.

[@ParkourChildhood]

youre actually such an amazing philosopher

[@jonw3462]

Sounds like a video I saw recently explaining my adhd. Simplistic, boring, stressful but easy jobs have been perceived by my dumb brain as legit dangerous threats to protect me. Really good video either way. If people could self reflect, admit they are wrong, be slightly self deprecating and stop picking tribes with things as silly as a 2 tier government rulers the world would be a much better place

[@theaustralians1325]

Just found this channel great stuff m8👍

[@leonm4273]

When I am getting a signal that is causing me to be under stress, I will react apropriate and fight or flight. However afterwards, I will reflect on that so I can maybe save some energy in the future or even gain profits from judjeing the situation with more experience/context. Some people call this learning. (excuse bad english, I am from the NEIN, NEIN, NEIN, country)

[@qwertyuiop9060]

Well researched

[@DelaronZarath]

It is not just about making fast and snap decisions. Rational thought has one major issue: It depends on perception or conceptualization. If you perform actions that have no perceivable outcome or you are not able think of such outcomes, then those outcomes cannot be incorporated into your thought process although they might be quite severe. One reason as for why that might be the case could simply be time and memory. If a great span of time lies between your actions and their outcomes then you will hardly correlate in your mind. However intuition is in some part the result of evolution, which means that if something in the genes of your ancestors caused them to act in a certain way to produce a more favorable outcome for themselves, it is more likely that could have spread their genes. Therefore you wouldn't actually want to act completely rationally.

[@MultipleMadness1]

“Mom’s spaghetti?”

[@fredericdouglas3574]

That is what I also expected at 1:57.

[@saimonishetikala2441]

This is deep

[@GTRFREAK17]

Brilliant talk Neel, keen to know what music tracks where used - they sounded great for focusing in

[@ΚλειώΑλκαίου]

The rational thing to do is to listen to what i have to say!!!

[@DoctorLazertron]

Our world views are built by meaning, and we do have a say in what meaning shapes it. Rationality is good, when you can manage it, but I chose Christ because if I’m gonna have some unconscious default opinions that aren’t my own, they might as well come from something that’s worked for a good few hundred years. Ofc I’ve got my selfish desires and my vestigial habits that don’t jive with God, but that’s kind of the crux of our sin. Hope I can get by alright with it.

[@ferdinandbardamu3945]

The thumbnail proves the title, I hope that's intentional - because all the people in the thumbnail are system approved fake versions of their respective labels.

[@miscl_anon]

I thought this was gonna be a skit/bit, wasn’t expecting a commentary-

[@ameliamnicol]

160 (logic), 310 (stat)!

[@_Dust]

Sometime the deeper thinking upon an initial response happens in post, i.e learning from past mistake's and having the foresight when weighing up your options under pressure or fear with more clarity, you can have an initial response and understand that you could have had a more well thought out response in post "hindsight's a b***", regardless of having a fight or flight response initially, sometimes it take experience's to have a more clear perception of danger or options etc evolutionary in your processes, building upon a frame work of past experience's if you will, especially if there experiences are new one's in a sense. I think a good example of pre programming of thought, is the White Rabbit in Monty python's Holy grail, and also just the Anti-Hero in a nut shell, take The Penguin (batman return's) for instance, to begin with he is considered the villain, only to shed light on the fact the he is trying to raise the bottom line and go's against capitalism at the expense of other's i.e those at the bottom, so he vibes more like an activist as the movie progresses as your pre conceived notion's are quickly altered, Evolving

[@MattH-l3i]

I don't know about Gretta being educated. That's a stretch. I would more say influenced.

[@nelsonphillips]

I don't think you understand how Asperger's functions and how changes the affect of influence.

[@MattH-l3i]

@@nelsonphillips yea I don't think you understand why calling her educated is asinine. Someone who claims to know the science but hasn't even finished school yet. I don't care if she has Asperger's or not.

[@nelsonphillips]

@@MattH-l3i considering base primary school level science can confirm the existence of climate change being educated on the matter is really accessible. As if "influenced" isn't a trope 🙄

[@MattH-l3i]

@@nelsonphillips yes, the existence of climate change is undeniable. Throughout the earth's history there have been major fluctuations in the Earth's climate. However, how can you honestly tell me that a little girl with a disability can examine decades of climate data to formulate her idea of political and energy reform, without being influenced by certain political activists with large sums of money. There is no chance that she thought up any of her talking points herself.

[@piotr_jurkiewicz]

I mean, I'm leftist and pretty much every leftist content creator I listen to clearly states that not only every opinion is emotional, the emotions are necessary to value some facts more than other. Example: Munecat - 'I Debunked Evolutionary Psychology'

[@astraea9644]

This is brilliant

[@krishnadastv6621]

i will just ask you a question for you to ponder why did u read sapiens by yuval noah harrari and why didnt you read(atleast heard) of The utimate resource by Julian Simon? That i suppose sums it all up for me.

[@mmarchiori]

Neel, You are an amazing influence for people, you're funny and writes really well, but I must tell you that this video talks and talks and say nothing and helps me nothing that I can't tell you why, because if I did you would simply dismiss me as a hater or some patronizing figure. Being in such a stalemate I'd remind you that in the age of enlightenment, when they started calling the middle ages as dark ages for some reason, the so-called philosophers broke with the classic thinkers and started anew and was at this moment that the overwhelming of your arguments where created. Yes, your ideas are not yours but someone else's and that is not a problem (I use to believe that I don't need to have an opinion on something, I can simply have someone else's opinion, since I make sure I'm incorporating to myself an opinion based on truth, I should be good to go) the actual problem start when we are not able anymore to tell between the ideas base din truth or not and that would come just and only from studying further and searching more. Being in this position, I'd like to invite you to start reading the classics to see what the 'enlightened' wanted to discard. It did me good and maybe do you good as well. Try Plato, Aristotle, Socrates see what they have to tell you, you may get surprised by their philosophy.

[@poducha]

This video is just horoscope for poli-sci majors

[@HelvellynMusic]

Neel I think you might be god 😂 jk, thanks so much for this insight, absolutely mind blowing

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

details vs patterns, facts vs feelings... sounds like you would like personality theory

[@Crabb90]

I don't think you're supposed to run from predators because that triggers them to chase you.

[@ICEknightnine]

Pretty sure some are more rational than others, we all have our triggers, but it matters how we look back on reality and choose to respond after the immediate stress has resolved. Also some stereotypes are organized and rational, say you go back to that stressor idealogue and see that it's like talking to a brick wall. Why bother going through that effort in communication again with someone who fits the description of an npc? When your time is better spent accumulating a resistance to this psychotic mob, even if not everyone in the mob is evil, why take that risk?

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[@Kuppiie0070]

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[@Coffee_paradox]

When you ask the question of bank teller versus bank teller & feminist, some people may interpret the question as P(bank teller & not feminist) vs P(bank teller & feminist). When you ask the question of X or Y, people usually assume that X and Y are of the opposite nature therefore mutually exclusive.

[@masteroogway8601]

where's the joke

[@dalorasinum386]

I liked the Eminem reference around the two minute mark.

[@bigjohn8407]

People are snowflakes who can't handle pressure. They have no real stress so they fight each other. This is why we need laws that encourage natural selection.

[@vicadegboye684]

Neel, is this your video rational?

[@thebarkingmouse]

My positions range from left-to-right to Centrist to I don't care. It all depends on the topic. The reason I identify more with right-leaning or so-called conservative values at this time, is that the left has made their attack on freedom of speech, the right to bear arms and even scientific reality just so obvious. As long as you're pretending that women become men and men become women and then you want to insist that I pretend that is truth myself I'm not going to side with you. As long as you were trying to restrict speech that is not incitement to violence, the commonly accepted long tested exceptions, then I'm not on your side. As long as you're playing games with non elected officials and organizations like the batf to try and disarm Americans I am not on your side. I will sooner side with people that I disagree with, whom I can have a conversation with and disagree on principle, and have that be respected. And that stopped being possible with the left sometime around the early 2000. I gave up on the Democrats in 2009. I don't belong to any party now. But recently I've been voting straight Republican because they're the only ones even pretending to respect her civil rights. And let me be perfectly clear. Today's antifa aren't anti-fascist, they are Fascist. People who pretend not to understand why Rittenhouse was acquitted, are Beyond me. There's video evidence from beginning to end. He was clearly under attack and it was one-hundred- percent within his rights to protect himself from those assailants. And they had zero excuse to attack him Of course I cannot see my own failings consistently. Which is why conversation is so important. Which is why the left deciding that they were done with being civil and we're simply going to call you every horrible name of the book if you did not buy into their pseudo religious ideology, means that I can't be around them anymore. I'm not gaining anything of value with them. At least in a principled conversation with a conservative or a Centrist, I might be able to see a different point of view I might be introduced to some better data. It's never going to happen with people are screaming in your face because you violated the tenets of their religion. And the left is a religious cult today

[@nelsonphillips]

are you a bot?

[@staC-wh6ik]

"The Left" is a wide and varied spectrum that covers several ideological branches not always agreeing, unlike the monolithic entity that propaganda paints. I don't know what are those "leftist" attacks on free speech. I suppose just a bunch of angry Twitter users shitstorming someone who posted an offensive tweet. I don't like the shitfest Twitter was and is but, as it should be obvious, free speech doesn't come with freedom of consequence. If you want to post something online you've got to be ready to all the responses it will get, 'cause the same way you exercise your free speech your own way others can exercise it their own way. Think before acting, just like Kyle Rittenhouse should have thought of the consequences that his acting like a wannabe-vigilante far from his hometown would have led to. The interpretation that the Second Amendment extends to individuals’ rights to own guns only became mainstream in 2008, when the Supreme Court ruled in a landmark gun case, "District of Columbia vs. Heller", that Americans have a constitutional right to own guns in their homes, knocking down the District’s handgun ban. What the Second Ammendment states is: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Transgenderism has happened throghout history in numerous ways, no matter how many times moral authorities have tried to deny it. Instead of discriminating and pushing the new Lavender Scare people should read more about the topic, just like they should read more about other scientific topics. Science marches on. Anti-fascists can be violent and nasty but never fascists, since the fascist is an authoritarian political figure that stands for a nationalistic state with a strong hierarchical society based on traditionalism and militarism and antifas don't stand for it. I dislike Democrats and how they seem to ignore or downplay important topics, but I'd rarely trust a modern Republican on matters of civil rights, especially the Trump-cult and their big corporations minions, stomping on workers rights, welfare and public policies in favor of privatization and increasing the divide between rich and poor.

[@thebarkingmouse]

@@nelsonphillips not last time i checked.

[@nelsonphillips]

@@thebarkingmouse all good, a copy and paste of this comment responded to a bot so I though I would ask

[@MrSh4des]

You should have had a picture of ye instead of shapiro in the thumbnail he's a far better representation of right wing ideology than shapiro lol.

[@jammaschan]

Im quite sure there aint a lot of right wingers who support hitler.

[@fredericdouglas3574]

Ye publicly confirms his mental illness. Until Ben Shapiro does the same, it is more appropriate to critique the thinking of a sane person.

[@jabbersjay6871]

First

[@JoshuaKimbrough]

Lex Fridman isnt centrist

[@erwark]

What would you call him? Centrism seems pretty subjective. Left wing thinks they're right wing and vice versa.

[@mmjohns2705]

The funny thing about the thumbnail is that if Greta is left then Shapiro would be center.

[@ryana-6762]

Far right is the best way I believe

[@MultipleMadness1]

“Mom’s spaghetti?”