NEET PG 2024 Strategy | Normalisation of Marks in NEET PG |

[@RishabhJain2970]

1 month strategy for NEET PG. Here is the link: COMPLETE ROADMAP- last 1 month strategy for NEET-PG '24 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3e4cnWEhaimiM0. Normalisation is a complicated process. It helps well prepared students score better overall if they get a moderate or tough exam. Nevertheless, the fact is your raw score needs to be as high as possible. So what to be done? Well in any scenario, you have to attempt to >175. The more the merrier. NBE won’t label the exam as tough or easy, it’s the average score of a shift which will reflect it. So for you- try to answer as much as you can. Normalisation doesn’t change your study strategy. All the best! This too shall pass.

[@criwery]

Guys there's just no time left to think about this normalisation bullshit. Read as much as you can in the days that are left, guve your best shot. Its new for everyone. Everyone's gonna go through it. Hope that the best and positive will happen ❤

[@devashreesurve9459]

Just a scientific way of giving grace marks 😂 NBE played well 🫡

[@rraviranjan1]

When PSM comes into play😅

[@Gigi-xt6ee]

So we can never calculate the actual scores even with recall😂so no one can blame nbe again

[@RishabhJain2970]

Yup. No point in worrying about shifts. Basically Raw scores ache rakhne hain. above 140

[@K00711]

​@@RishabhJain2970what 140? Neet pg exam happening for 800 marks

[@Gigi-xt6ee]

@@K00711 he meant the corrects

[@RishabhJain2970]

@@K00711 correct questions. I was assuming +1, -1/4 but yes you can do calculations based on +4, -1

[@pritammalik8963]

Difficult paper main kya bonus marks extra milega agar main ne question leave kia to?

[@yavnikachauhan6013]

Thankyou so much sir 🙏🏻....it was really helpful

[@criwery]

Now only Dr. Aditya Sanjay Gupta sir's opinion on this can fix me 😂

[@Bazinga792]

There gonna be delays in counseling. People will again fight cases in Supreme Court. Isse acha abhi krado 1 shift

[@MandeepSingh-gf2ek]

Sir easy paper tough paper we can't tell during the paper.. maybe we get easier sections before the tougher sections.. then we can't change anything in previous sections.. attempt to high Leni hi padegi.. jo time Mila h padhai mein laga lo.. ek hi tareeka h nauka paar lagane ka😅

[@ananyagupta1364]

Sir - but its not like the two shifts will be grossly different in terms of difficulty, people are making it out to be as though one paper is going to be extremely easy while another shift is going to be extremely tough. Both the papers will almost be in the same ball park of difficulty, todha sa hi different hoga na

[@prashantkumar-uw7xr]

22 june 2024 ko night Tak admit card with candidates for exam next morning for neet pg 2024 , phir achanak se woh exam postponed to 11 August 2024 but now NBE is not able to conduct exam in 1 go with a single paper for the same number of people jinke liye dedh mahine pahele tak admit card tha ? Online exam hai computer mein timing chalta rehta hai so neet ug mein toh bahana chal gaya paper distribution mein delay, wrong distribution wagiarah and grace marks k naam par scam walon ko marks , so neet pg mein kuch aur sochna tha so at the last moment paper postponed and ab decide kark aaye hai with new idea to hide behind with different papers, differents shifts, different marks on the name of normalisation/standardisation

[@dr_granger268]

Is it a good measure for students who score above 150 and 160? Or will well performing ones also get affected?

[@arti_priyakh1715]

Sir, should we continue doing marrow qbanks or should we just do custom modules now?

[@anujajayan5171]

Thanks doc but how do we know we come up with the decision whether the paper is tough or not in order to attempt 190+ questions when the exam is happening in 40 question set?

[@Rinchatt]

I just lost my mind suddenly when i saw the formula😂😂😂

[@criwery]

Damn maths ain't mathing anymore 😭

[@criwery]

Yrr isse acha to equal paper lelo. 1st shift me Aortic dissection, fungal meningitis, placenta previa and 2nd shift me COA, bacterial meningitis, abruptio aise pooch lo. PYTs repeated once every 2-3 yrs inko alternate sets me pooch lo. Itna kya difficult h yrr paper bnana 😭😭😭

[@criwery]

This means it's a cut throat situation now. You give your paper in the morning shift for eg. you felt the paper was moderate to difficult and boom the examiner is announcing that the morning paper was easy and everything's fucked up

[@dr_granger268]

Keep your negative thoughts to yourself. Most of the toppers are studying now and they don’t give a shit about all this!

[@Tequila_sh0ts.]

​@@dr_granger268 because toppers will never be affected in any situation. It is us average scorers who want to get around 5k to 6k ranks who'll get their ass beat once again.

[@tanisadas1638]

​@@dr_granger268... This is the reason why we are having so much scams... No one is there to protest .. All are studying .. But ultimately all efforts are going in vain..

[@ananditachauhan5285]

Guys..plz hear me once. Ye chutiya NBE bohot khel loya humara sath. Itna kya mr rhe h ye log jaldi se exam niptaa dene k liye that they r doing it in 2 sessions? Tabhi lo na jab single slot k liye centres available h. In our study group - ppl are writing this mail to some mail ids. Ye kua chutiyapa h..2 alag alag papers, papers bahar nhi denge, key nhi denge, candidate answer schema nhi dikhayenge..kuch b normalisation lagake..kaise b score denge aur fir bolenge he lo tmhra rank. Dekha na neet ug mai ranks mai kitna inflation hua ye sab grace marks, normalisation k chakkar mai. Kuch nhi krna h..bas 2 min nikalo.. Copy this mail's content..and send it to the mail id i m giving below. I m not saying isse pakka kuch change hoga but atleast let our displeasure be knowm to them in huge numbers. Kya oata kuch badal jaye.. Mail - Respected Sir/Madam, I am writing to express my concerns regarding the decision to conduct the NEET PG exam on August 11th in two slots. I believe this approach, which involves the normalization process, introduces several biases in the scoring system which decides our ranks and eventually the specialty branch we get into. The normalization process, though intended to equalize differences in difficulty across multiple slots, often fails to capture the complexity and nuances of each slot's exam. The lack of transparency in the normalization algorithms can lead to distrust among candidates, as they are unable to verify how their scores are adjusted. Candidates of different skill levels may cluster in certain slots, skewing the normalization process if not properly accounted for. Additionally, slots with significantly different numbers of candidates can produce unstable statistical metrics, affecting normalization accuracy. Outliers or extreme scores in a slot can distort the mean and standard deviation, leading to unfair normalization. Candidates often feel that the difficulty level varies across slots. If the normalization process does not accurately capture these differences, it can lead to unfair score adjustments. Variations in question paper composition, such as the mix of clinical versus basic science questions, can impact candidate performance differently across slots. NEET PG unlike other exams has no limit on the no.of questions that can be asked from a subject and hence it will be difficult to determine the difficulty level and normalise the scores in such a scenario where rote learning and clinical aptitude based questions clash This normalisation method is not an ideal 100% accurate method but is something that is needed mostly where a huge no.of candidates are appearing for exams that can't b fit in a single slot which is not the case with NEET PG usually. Even AIIMS discontinued it after seeing its demerits in INICET 2023 January session where all toppers were from the morning session. Normalisation method should be an option but not the only choice like how NBE did today. Moreover, the NBE's current practice of not releasing the exam paper, answer key, and candidates' answer sheets exacerbates the trust issues. Candidates have no way of verifying the correctness of their responses or understanding how their raw scores translate to normalized scores. This lack of transparency can lead to confusion, dissatisfaction, and a feeling of unfair treatment once the ranks are announced. We do not want to face a similar situation to the NTA's NEET UG, where fallacies in the scoring system, i.e inflation of ranks post result declaration caused significant distress among candidates. If NBE is justifying using normalisation process as other exams in the country also use it like IIT-JEE, then it should follow suit and release question paper, answer keys, candidate's answer sheets just like IIT does Only 2 lakh people give NEET PG, compared to other exams like UPSC, IIT-JEE where many lakhs of people give the exam mandating the need for multiple slot exams and normalisation. There is no such need for NEET PG. Up until now NEET PG was successfully conducted as a single slot exam. Why not now? I urge the NBE to reconsider conducting the exam in multiple slots. Most of our seniors are warning us of how the multiple slot exam by Prometric in the past prior to 2017, proved to be a disaster due to data breach and faults in normalisation, which is why since 2017, TCS started conducting a single slot exam. Instead of learning from past experience, why is NBE regressing backwards and is in such a hurry to get rid of conducting NEET PG 2024 by August itself even if it means jeopardising the sanctity of the exam and scoring system by an unfair normalisation process. We can easily wait till September for single slots to be available for a fair and equal exam for all. Its clear to us that NBE is holding the exam in 2 shifts due to lack of centres at a single given time. I would like to reiterate that JR3 in many states are posted till 31st december 2024 in hospitals which wont cause any scarcity of residents in hospitals even if exams are delayed and counselling starts a little later in October. So its in the best interests of students and NBE that NEET PG exam is held in a single slot, in September guaranteeing uniformity and an equal playing field for all the aspirants. I hope MOHFW and NBE pays heed to its students - the biggest stakeholders in this NEET PG exam and act accordingly. Thank you.. Plz mail krdo yaar. Itne mahine mehnat se padhayi ki not to be screwed at the last moment like this bcoz NBE ko chul machi padi hai jaldi jaldi exam nipta dene ki.isliey kaise b, kahin b thoos rhe h hume.. Mail ids to be mailed to - [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] [e-mail] Also u all have to write on nbems communication portal regarding the same as nbe doesnt have a functional mail id. Nbe will first verify email id via otp and then u can write down ur complaint. It has word limit. So cut short some matter and write acclrdingly. Sab info de diya. Poora mail ka contnet aur mail ids bhi..bas 2 min nikalo copy paste krke mail krne.. Many ppl r already mailing. U also join. Jitne jyada h utna acha h. Shayad kuch ho jaye.

[@DrKden]

All this doesn't look fair to me, lossing hope now, it's all depend on ur luck actually and how others in ur shift performs😢😢

[@nishithipad5217]

There is nothing called luck in your life. If you have prepared well , no matter what you will prevail

[@dr.house.md.3969]

You need to live a little more.​@@nishithipad5217

[@Itsme-pb5zk]

@@nishithipad5217ye neet ug ki trah..! h na..!!

[@vishwajoshi1705]

hello sir according to you in moderate shift also how much correct we should aim for decent rank?

[@riochishi928]

I mean why they had to make it soooo much confusing …could have jsut set only one paper like before,man

[@Medjam10]

Why not they divide the two groups of students (as there are two shifts)and two separate 50 percent and 50 percent seat matrix of these two groups,that's simple!

[@radhamonyps5981]

Is it the same person is attending the two shifts or eah one will get different shifts

[@DrAjaykr]

Normalozation will always be wrong...... Suppose of there will be more number of toppers in any shift then mean will be high......and avg student will suffer in such situation.

[@smitpatel8950]

True … I was thinking the same .This won’t be fair exam

[@AnshitaK11]

Well explained

[@SK-tl4bu]

Well explained dr❤

[@RishabhJain2970]

Thank you 🙏

[@DrAVSmedico]

No Wonder you Got Rank 1 in AIIMS PG entrance Sir 😂😂😂😂. My brain cannot process anything you said in this video !!💥😄

[@K00711]

Is they release how much added because of normalisation after results?

[@aashathombare8608]

Why alwsys complited things in NEET ?

[@karishmasahu447]

Sir your app which is MedEd+ is not giving any free access after being registered

[@criwery]

Sir do you think the paper's still gonna be PYQ and PYT based? I'll end up crying in the middle of my exam if nothing's from PYTs and it's a hard shift but the exam conducting system announces it as an easy to moderate one.

[@RishabhJain2970]

PYTs se hi ayega. Don’t worry. Exam conducting body won’t label a paper easy or Hard. It will be judged by Average score in your shift according to me.

[@shaileemehta7347]

And sir despite doing all thiss Why cant they just give 2 papers which are of same difficulty Either both moderate or both hard or bothe easy ??

[@RishabhJain2970]

Exact difficulty level paper banana is impossible. Also what student perceives as easy and tough is relative

[@rajtanwar2287]

Why they keep changing exam pattern 🤨

[@futuredr3552]

This is not the case that Marks will be increased for all students. I know many of my friends who did appear in ssc and they said if you score very poorly in an easy paper then your marks will be decreased . In ssc cgl also candidates check their answers from answer key and just getting 30~40 marks but when result came their score was in negative becs they performed poorly in an easy paper. Reason behind this is this formula is inaccurate in extreme of situations in skewed data.

[@futuredr3552]

Let me also give an another real example one of my friend score 200/200 in ssc cgl in maths that too in diificult shift and when result came his score was 242 out of 200 and secured AIR 4 in ssc cgl 2019 Ujjwal is the name you can check his interviews also.

[@criwery]

the fuckkk is happening? 242/200?

[@vasanthraja9509]

Does it mean No negative marks sir?

[@vasimshaikh4672]

But what is the need to conduct exam in 2 shifts, NEET UG has 25 lakh aspirants and if it can be conducted in single shift, then NEET PG can definitely be conducted in single shift with only about 1/10th of aspirants

[@chethangv7974]

But NEET-UG is not CBT

[@mahirakhurana7383]

@rishabhJain2970 sir how to jump from 165 to 175 In the last month , by practising a lot of questions?

[@wirsindnerds8546]

Yes sir how to do this?

[@RishabhJain2970]

By working on your weak subjects/topics in the initial 15 -20 days and Revsioon and PYQs in the last 15 days

[@wirsindnerds8546]

@@RishabhJain2970 thanks sir 👍🏻

[@dr.mayank5020]

Bhai I respect you, you are intelligent but bhai hum kese decide kre ki paper easy tha ya hard ? Meri taraf se easy hoga but examiner ne bola ki paper hard hai tb??

[@sharookh5]

if the average is low, it's a difficult paper,

[@sayantanr_97]

Very lucid explanation sir....but sir one doubt- since the exam will have 5 sets and we cannot review the whole paper...how should we assess the difficulty level of the paper i.e whether to attempt more or not? Please advise sir how much should be attempt to be on the safer side...

[@RishabhJain2970]

180 plus toh karne hi hain. Easy paper 195+, moderate paper 190+

[@dibakardas8049]

​​@@RishabhJain2970you mean in a moderate paper we have to score 190 corrects?

[@Shoegazer333]

​@@dibakardas8049 Bhai 190 attempt karne hain yar , correct nai😭 , exam main sara question padna Bhai answer karne se pehele, upar likha hai attempt Bhai 😭😭 190 correct karlo to rank 1 hai

[@marikantiflorence1725]

Its not correct.Both papers can not be of 100% equal standard

[@anithadayakar3201]

Who decides whether paper is easy, moderate or tough, and on what basis?Will they use statistics for that also?

[@RishabhJain2970]

Average score of that shift

[@monilvalia9425]

Ye neet wale 'NORMALISED ratio explained' wale questions naa puch le community medicine ke naam pe😂😂

[@dr.niranjanatpadkar9358]

@RishabhJain2970 Sir How will we know which shift is tougher or easier ?

[@mdnizamuddinansari6601]

दोनों शिफ्ट का एक पर्सेंट कैंडिडेट के नम्बर का मुकाबला करने से डिफिकल्टी निकलेगा

[@shaileemehta7347]

But sir nbe being nbe what is the gaurantee that they wont commit any mistakes while counting the scores by normalization

[@RishabhJain2970]

Algorithm hai. Computer based calculation hai

[@AnkitaKumari-hd2xx]

Sir I was preparing for upsc cms, should i include neet pg subject too till 14??

[@RishabhJain2970]

@@AnkitaKumari-hd2xx exam bodies are different. I’m assuming their Q banks will also be different

[@deveshshakyawar1480]

Nbe has ability to do this properly?????

[@aptainShip]

Don't panic guys...if this formula is really applied without any sort of internal corruption...things won't be bad. I just hope they will set questions from similar topics in both papers.

[@tanisadas1638]

But there is neither any answer key available nor any scrutiny options.. How to know corruptions happening or not??😅

[@aptainShip]

@@tanisadas1638 bhagwan bharose

[@tanisadas1638]

@@aptainShip 😂okay

[@Bazinga4141]

Sir how do they ensure that the level of candidates is same in both the shifts.Marks should never be decided by assumption anyway .Something difficult for me might me easier for someone else and vice versa .

[@RishabhJain2970]

They have assumed level of candidates same as distribution of exam centres and shifts is randomised.

[@Bazinga4141]

⁠@@RishabhJain2970sir distribution of exam centres isn’t randomised .its allotted on first registered basis so set 1 will have more serious aspirants ( I’m assuming they registered earlier ). The unavailability of exam centres is the major reason they are doing this.they won’t wanna piss off people by randomly allocating centres.

[@Chaitanya123mech]

Like medicine clinical trials. 😮

[@meet6109]

Sir aapne dara diya...Sir I am someone who is getting between 400-420.... I am poor so I will become poorer? ...so will my score decrease if i get between 400-420

[@tanisadas1638]

No no you will be richer if you get the tougher shift😂

[@meet6109]

@@tanisadas1638 😅..can you please tell what would happen .? I am really worried..I know i have to study and not to think about it much....but I can't control on this

[@tanisadas1638]

@@meet6109 nobody knows what will happen.. Just read revise and try to get as much correct as possible that's the formula🤞🏻and hope for the best

[@meet6109]

@@tanisadas1638 ok no option

[@Mbbsx7]

12:35

[@vanyasingh1003]

Single shift kar do

[@Anony9090]

Bhai fair ho hi ni skta jb tk same paper n ho jb tk poore bccho k😅 kuch bhi ho its fact ….

[@Dr_Hope735]

Sir yeh kaise decide hota hai ki paper tougher hai ya moderate/ easy?? 😢

[@RishabhJain2970]

Based on that shift average score

[@raninishra805]

Dear Dr. Rishabh, Thank You for your informative video. But, now it is sad for me to realize, as a medico myself and mother of a PG aspirant that my child's future and branch (which he would live with throughout his life) will be decided not by his own competency, but by others performance in his shift as well. What a pathetic condition...now no one can neither know their position nor challenge, unlike what happened in NEET UG this year (grace marks) .na actual marks se rank ka pata chalenge...na kuch kar paaoge. Ideally each student should be assessed on the same paper at the same time. I would humbly request Higher authorities to refrain from introducing new rules just before the exams....they should be introduced well in time.

[@RishabhJain2970]

I agree ma’am. Introducing new pattern at the last minute creates anxiety. But I don’t think it will hamper well read students.

[@Shoegazer333]

It won't hamper anything, its not happening just for one person, its happening for everyone, USMLE has been doing it since ages

[@dr_mohdabuhasan]

@@Shoegazer333this is not usa and this is not usmle

[@swagshetty]

Sir for neet ....till which aiims yr pyq would u suggest like must know... 😢😢

[@RishabhJain2970]

Till 2018 must know

[@swagshetty]

@@RishabhJain2970 🙌

[@Drshivanisingh928]

Hello dr , Nice explanation Is marrow RR enough for NEET PG?

[@RishabhJain2970]

Yes more than enough. Thank you for this question.

[@Itsme-pb5zk]

frjivada to hoga pr ab formula k naam pr hoga..! taaki judge ko bhi smj naa aaye 🤣

[@vickykuntal1229]

Level sbke niklenge 😂

[@Itsme-pb5zk]

arey bhai seedha bolo na - frjivada hoga ab..!!!

[@Kingofgames-wu1ky]

Bus deat mil jaye baki sab jaye bhaad m

[@maksgaming88]

Bhai ye JEE ADVANCE ke equations kaha se aa gaye?

[@RishabhJain2970]

Medical and Maths dono padho ab 🥴

[@wasimjavedmallick6921]

Centre change possible?

[@manudan3601]

Expect nearest center if you're center was too far on 23rd June.

[@sharonpaul7320]

If this works so well why aiims dropped this plan

[@RishabhJain2970]

1 shift is best. But ab NBE ne raita failaya hai toh samaeth rhe hain

[@sharonpaul7320]

@@RishabhJain2970 can yu please explain in English I shouldn't understand

[@koushikadhikary2390]

Abhiii seee

[@Susah55555]

Ek aur scam hai ye aur kchh nhi…..nbe ki ₹&#@#

[@criwery]

Scam on the go

[@vengateshr6754]

What will be the case if many toppers attend difficult paper and make it easy paper ....and an average guy get stuck with that paper ???? For example, out of 100 students attending difficult paper , if 70 of them are brilliant toppers , they will score big even in difficult paper In easy paper , out of 100 students, only 20 of them are brilliant toppers, then the top scores might decrease in that set , right??? Does this formula tackle this too ???

[@DrKden]

How is this possible selection occurs by randomization so equal no of avg and toppers will be there in a shift

[@apurbabezbaruah2802]

Does randomisation guarantee you that good nd bad student will be exact equal in number in each shift…A big no…60\40 will also bring huge rank shift

[@vengateshr6754]

​​@@DrKden100% sure , there will be equal 50-50 toppers in each set by randomisation???

[@jr7med577]

This was the same qn I was supposed to ask !!!!!

[@vengateshr6754]

​@@apurbabezbaruah2802yeah, I thought the same ...maybe I'm wrong...I don't know

[@criwery]

There are a few rumours about fmge 2024 leak !!

[@RishabhJain2970]

Let’s keep them as rumours

[@swagshetty]

😂😂​@@RishabhJain2970

[@Chaitanya123mech]

Dr explaining math🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@ace99spice]

And?

[@bhavikasarode1840]

What I get from this video that I should get difficult shift right?

[@RishabhJain2970]

@@bhavikasarode1840 if your concepts are good and you have revised, then yes difficult shift helps well prepared students

[@criwery]

​@@RishabhJain2970sir hum log to BTR, first aid, PYQs PYTs kr k Jaa rhe. Ye concepts kya hain?? 😂😭

[@ankita7207]

Makku zindabad 🤙

[@SwarnimGoyal]

10:12 Bhagwaan neet pg wale baccho ko sahi salamat rkhe... Sir btau esa kyu bol rha hu ssc aspirant hu mai aur normalisation acche se smjhta hu Ye dekh li sir kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn2onJyJZqd0a7Mfeature=shared Hope it helps you

[@RishabhJain2970]

Poor scorers ke marks aur kam ho jayenge in easy paper.

[@tum180]

Sir 30 days revision strategy ki video link please

[@SwarnimGoyal]

@@RishabhJain2970 Sir but shift will matter a lot... Seriously like hell... Why can't a percentile system as in CAT or Old AIIMS-UG Paper

[@koushikadhikary2390]

😂😂😂😂 its omg anyway