Neil deGrasse Tyson SHUTS DOWN Ben Shapiro

[@cellardoor2197]

It's the social version of being a Karen, "I DONT LIKE THAT SO ITS WRONG!"

[@ruhfuhquh]

The right has so many oblivious hypocrites lol

[@liledd1307]

Shapiro is literally the embodiment of a Karen. Always whining about something in his high pitch lady voice, that he has no business even discussing. He works so hard to make it seem like he’s a 1st class citizen and everyone who doesn’t agree with him is automatically in a different class of person. He needs to get slapped.

[@whooley8782]

Typical conservative mindset.

[@dlg78]

'I like this so it's right' There, I just made the other side of the argument. So seeing as both are in direct conflict, maybe we should use something else to decide? How about science, biology, and what's socially acceptable and beneficial to the majority.

[@tsinquisition3455]

@@dlg78 How about we stick to science and biology and we kip society and "common sense" out of this?

[@user-wn3zd4ll1y]

I love how the Conservatives play the biology card, but still oppose Darwin's theory of evolution. Ben, facts don't care about your feelings.

[@MasterMote]

....this comment is so idiotic and also incorrect, i don't known where to even start. Who says conservatives don't believe in evolution? Who says Ben Shapiro in particular doesn't believe in evolution...also what does one have to do with the other...can you explain what a woman is? If you can make a case for gender ideology, make your case. To me it makes no sense. What do u even mean "biology card".. Like what else is there when it comes to gender? Its the "reality card" if anything.

[@mlghaxx1421]

@@MasterMote Gender expression/gender identity are different from biological sex. No one's arguing that an MtF trans woman possesses XX chromosomes, or is a 'biological woman/female'. I would assume this is the "biology card" (misconstruing biological sex and gender, or arguing that gender always conforms to, or should always conform to biological sex). This is why there are different terms such as male, female, man, woman, sex, gender, trans, cis, Etc.; because they differentiate and define these things. Gender identity is the personal sense or identification of one's gender, which conforms with biological sex in the majority of people. Gender nonconformity is recognized in medical literature and in historical contexts. It is completely "normal" in the sense that; it's an observed pattern that some people do not conform or identify to their birth sex. Gender expression is a persons presentation/interests/behavior, that are traditionally associated with gender (masculine or feminine), and/or are seen as gender norms/roles. Historically, basic things such as Education were seen as "masculine", barring women from pursuing education due to the strict adherence to these norms. Nowadays in the US, this type of discrimination isn't problematic because of legislative changes like the Civil Rights Act, though it still creates issues in a social context. Examples of modern gender norms/roles are; the expectation of wearing gender-specific clothing, certain careers and activities being seen as masculine or feminine (without a biological basis). Women being expected to be more polite, accommodating and passive. Men being expected to be more assertive, dominant, and emotionally unaffected. Certain actions, such as women raising children, and men making money and being financially independent, are expected. So if you hear someone say "abolish gender norms" or something, they're probably referring to something along those lines. Obviously it would be impossible to "abolish" these, as well as the fact that some gender norms can be beneficial, and many people are not strictly attached to these ideas; But this does not discredit the argument that the perceived importance of adherence to norms that do not have any logical or biological basis, which do have social consequences for not adhering to, provides no benefits and can cause harm. At the end of the day It's about decency and respect. I don't think most men wouldn't want to be told to "man up" or be seen as less manly if they are emotionally affected by something, or get judged because their wife makes more money than them. And if someone presents and identifies not as their birth sex, they made that choice, and there's no benefit to disrespect them or invalidate them.

[@Aleph_-_0]

@@MasterMotethe gender spectrum is created through traits given a name by society, people can call something feminine and therefore make a man who contains those traits think they are a woman. If no gender roles exist the. Most cases of transgender people disappear (more specifically gendered language etc) due to them just being a person. Im not a psychologist so I am not a professional on this topic.

[@johnnelligan7093]

@mlghaxx1421 That's all ridiculous. It's not about people self perception. It is about the self perception needing to be imposed on others. That's the issue.

[@bill-fk7tl]

Does that even matter any more since absolutely nothing is currently evolving Except technology

[@abrahamdylan377]

FINALLY someone asks “Dude, why do you care about this so much?”

[@trumptouchesivanka]

EXACTLY!

[@TheHolyphantom]

I mean he asked him, but he didn't let him answer... or at least not in these clips.

[@bobtony6036]

cuz dude, the media says we should............ :)

[@a100independent6]

@@TheHolyphantom nope he didn't answer the question I personally watched the whole thing

[@jaydezifour988]

He's a right wing, religious nutjob, that's why.

[@abstractdragon5453]

I think we can all agree Ben Shapiro is the queen of all Karens

[@andresmiguelcervantes4818]

no doubt. I think this deserves a meme.

[@brandonn161]

I don't know about that, Tucker C. is pretty up there as well. It's a hard pick between those two. Can there be 2 queens?

[@johnathandavis3693]

@@brandonn161 Two-seat bidet...

[@BusterTucker]

Deep down he wants to be a Caitlyn Jenner!

[@darenrrful]

and he is a racist to boot

[@bryanwoldridge2343]

Shapiro always sounds like he's trying to sell a 'great' used car when he speaks

[@charlesfosterkane1966]

Please do not insult used car dealers lol!

[@spacecat6022]

No, he's trying to sell houses to Aquaman

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

Scientists ask questions to get answers. Sensationalists ask questions to get soundbites to suit their needs.

[@sababaratashvili8629]

What a bs, Neil did not want questions to be asked, and answers to be found and shown to the public because people might make conclusions he does not like. So if in the future some study shows that transgenderism/homosexualism is not solely the result of some unchangeable biological conditions we must hide those studies from people or just not let such studies about these subjects exist.

[@jlepage36]

Oh great wise one. So, you just said that the Socratic Method is unscientific grand-standing. NDT is trying to make Shapiro face his own prejudices and fallacious pseudo-intellectualism. Not that Shapiro is probably persuadable even in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is wrong, but some of the listeners might be.

[@sababaratashvili8629]

@@jlepage36 He is wrong? And how in this video was he wrong? I know pseudointellectual lefties love bs but please be direct and clear.

[@TheMarsCydonia]

@@sababaratashvili8629 _Neil did not want questions to be asked, and answers to be found and shown to the public because people might make conclusions he does not like_ Was this conclusion supported by anything other than your feelings?

[@FelipeElGatoBustamanteRenda]

@@sababaratashvili8629 If you have to ask these questions, then , take a seat with BS. Since you're just as clueless.

[@lemonsqueezy6864]

Are we just ignoring the fact the banner calls him Shabibo? 😂

[@kurtklingbeil6900]

We delegate you to launch a formal complaint and come up with a snazzy pro-Ben meme ..

[@buddhaa6417]

Bens just pissed that about 75% of women are stronger than he is 😂

[@abone2pick]

What are women?

[@buddhaa6417]

@@abone2pick those beings that could beat the shit out of Ben Shapiro

[@Pain53924]

@@buddhaa6417 lmao

[@oolong2]

It literally looks and sounds like an adult talking to a little kid...

[@ronhanson9453]

A little kid trying hard to sound like an adult.

[@baycun]

@@ronhanson9453 It was slightly less sad when it was an actual little kid trying to sound like an adult. Now it's an adult hanging on to the reputation of being a kid that sounds like an adult.

[@yoyoyodogg3]

An adult talking to a cartoon character.

[@creativewriter3887]

It is! I"m glad Neil DeGrass wiped the floor with this squeaky little twerp!!! Besides, Shapiro is so far in the closet he's playing with Mr. Tommus in Narnia.

[@patmcclung7205]

@@yoyoyodogg3 He sounds like Mandark from Dexter's Laboratory running an auction

[@dangerouslytalented]

Tyson is somehow using Shapiro’s disingenuous arguments against him, while being very polite and formal and respectful.

[@codychambers8007]

As a debate should be.

[@lindaward3156]

He's a class act - Tyson. l venerate scientists like your average person does with movie/TV stars, athletes, musicians, etc - well, music is very important - but he's an idol. He makes science fun because he's so passionate and excited on his favorite subjects and jazzed about all the other sciences. ☮

[@crissyhutto8409]

masterful philosophy

[@dangerouslytalented]

@@crissyhutto8409 he does his homework, he knows Shapiro’s game.

[@jeffkrantz6872]

Rasists without questions, Have a useless cause. ..

[@greenjelly01]

What Tyson really wanted to say was: "As a scientist, I wonder... ... ... ... where you are hiding the helium tank."

[@killSeal]

Helium and Copium tanks that are combined turns you into a non-coherent robot, a damaged robot that says random words.

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

LOL. God bless you.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

You shouldn't make fun of Ben Shapiro just because he represents The Lollipop Guild, The Lollipop Guild.

[@lindaward3156]

@@killSeal lt all makes sense now...☮

[@Elrykkstorm]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

They ALWAYS go to “the children” but where did trans people come from when it was nowhere in media? Same with gay people. Unfortunately the “straight agenda” failed to get me because the “gay agenda” got me, despite me never being exposed to gay people from what I can remember. I’ve watched all of the straight Disney princess movies yet I’m gay. And they’re worried about thinks like two same sex kisses on screen for a split second.

[@justinsane2337]

This is really hard to grasp the point you’re trying to make but I absolutely love “I’ve watched all of the straight Disney princess movies yet I’m gay” lol Is the inference that those princess movies are mainly watched by non gays or that they should have turned you straight? I’d like to get some more context on that. The “agenda” stuff could be clarified too.

[@helanna9843]

Sorry, I can't get past Ben Shapiro sounding like a chipmunk on speed.

[@brianward7231]

His voice hasn't cracked yet.

[@nunusnews361]

Ana's immitation on speed s amazing too

[@justacryptocat]

I literally spit out my coffee LOL when I read this. Thank you.

[@6Ozomatli]

lol, every time I hear him I think chipmunks too. Doesn't have to be on speed, Alvin always talked fast, but he does sound like he's on the helium though.

[@creativewriter3887]

god, imagine being his wife and having to listen to that Every. single. day!!

[@jaynegrant3133]

I love NDGT “where are you going with this?” Translation: who are you trying to hurt? Who are you trying to own?

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

Doesn't seem though during the conversation like Tyson had a clear path on where he was going.

[@jaynegrant3133]

@@FeedingFrenzy91it’s not like Shapiro answered the question. NDGT has empathy, and sees people as people not ideas, no matter how clever he is, it would be challenging to have a sincere conversation with Shapiro.

[@waynefrench756]

@@FeedingFrenzy91 he was just getting down to the ben guys level !!!!

[@PaulLundgren1970]

@@FeedingFrenzy91 I get the feeling he was trying to articulate his thoughts as they were forming, instead of Shapiro, who was spitting out rehearsed talking points. It was clunky, but the overall effect was engaging.

[@s4623]

better translation: Are you trying to project like fmr. Reverend Haggard?

[@aroddo2953]

Ben Shapiro was shocked to find out that Tyson isn't impressed at all with his rapid fire speech approach. Tyson understood him perfectly and took his sweet time to answer thoughtfully.

[@annettezaleski]

their interview could ONLY BE DEEMED AS POSSITIVE if Ben truly listened to what Tyson actually said to him and we know this interview that Tyson had with him was for all the Ben's out there in the world bc Tyson doesn't just hope that he could persuade Ben in this interview to look at things from a different angle, though Tyson was spot on in doing just that for SO MANY others who were and will watch this YT clip as I have, and that's when you realize just how effective words are when they are spoken by someone who is HIGHLY respected worldwide in and out of the scientific communities World Wide, but is extremely smart on how to talk to even some of the dumbest section of individuals ex: Shapero....with the remarkable knowledge of how to talk in the lamest of layment terms, in order to make his argument, as he perfectly did, while he was able to also grab the attention and excitement of all who have struggled to put a point across that the alt right always fights FOR...America's Freedoms!! BRILLIANT...WELL OF COURSE!! Don't know how much it means that I think he's brilliant soooo...I just wanna know if Tyson would allow us to use that statement ...either clip...because he gives me hope that there is a chance for people to truly at least glimpse into empathy of others even as they have had and still and may ALWAYS have strong narcissistic ideologies that are imbedded within people...the hope is to see the soul peak out when they understands a person when word orders fall the way in which is understood by ppl who find it almost IMPOSSIBLE that their is ANYTHING to learn from life that they don't already know! I say to that logic...that if you believe that there is nothing left in life for you to learn, you've got a lot to learn!!

[@annettezaleski]

Sorry about my ramble and sometimes getting lost in my point across...I hope I can be understood here...now you may see why I envy the fact on how Tyson's wording is so effective for me...and this ex poets lack of remembering any sort of descriptive words anymore...beginning stages of Alz...

[@annettezaleski]

Respect the minds abilities and don't take it for granted esp in your young years! Allow it to develop b4 choosing to kill off your brain cells is my wish that someone would have gave my that tip long ago...wait, maybe they did! Hell, I don't remember!! lmao!

[@theisraelig5162]

When you're so braindamaged that the only thing you understand of Shapiros argument is "rapid fire". that clearly shows ur real brain capacity.

[@danielr.y5261]

Shabibo's strategy has actually a name; it's called 'gish-galloping'. Which is basically considered disingenuous in formal debates. The speaker speaks very fast, comprising several different topics in one short fast-paced diatribue. That way, the opponent finds themselves discombobulated and not knowing how or where to start working on their defense. Notice how Tyson stopped him here before Shabibo's could start adding more and more BS to his speech. Tyson was fully aware of Shabibo's gish-galloping and wanted nothing to do with that. That's why Shabibo looks good against young college students (inexperienced at debating) while anyone with a modicum of experience will always demolish him. Once they figure out his script he's rendered powerless.

[@davidleedutton]

Why would a renowned and respected astrophysicist want to waste any amount of time talking to Dave Seville's fourth Chipmunk?

[@krisw7625]

Ben Shapiro sounds like Kermit the frog on speed

[@jrodriguezmonfort]

I’ve been laughing at that shit for the last 20 min

[@jacquelinejackson1672]

Laughing 😃 so hard 🤣 😆 😂

[@patman0250]

Yeah Kermit the frog with absolute facts.

[@Spellstrife]

Neutered Kermit 😁

[@trackmusic252]

But he right their is only one woman

[@christianfiggz7057]

I love that Neil told Dave Shapiro that instead of arguing why it should not exist why don't you learn why it exists.

[@rebekahdavis5935]

Yes, because "it's real and it's there" simple yet powerful statement. Why wouldn't you want to know more about something that happens all over the planet and HAS for thousands of years.

[@neil2444]

The act of acknowledging something and not trying to slap labels on it or pretend it doesn't exist is literally what science is about, learning and discovery. From a purely scientific perspective, there's literally no justification behind Ben Shapiro's argument. If the point of it was not to have men in women's sports, then this can be resolved simply by having some sort of test to be able to make a scientific distinction, sure. But it's silly to treat trans people like freaks on that basis. People like Ben Shapiro want the world to fit into neat little labels, and the world is not inherently black and white. But from a scientific standpoint, you incorporate the complexity into a theory that comprises everything, you don't simply pretend it doesn't exist. That's just willful ignorance and about as unscientific as you can get.

[@DocRealTalk]

Unfortunately, that had nothing to do with the actual question. We can learn all about "why" transexuality exist. Then what? Does that change the actual question or the reason for that question...no it does not.

[@DocRealTalk]

@@neil2444 Absolutely no one made the argument to "treat trans people like freaks". It was simply about trans women in biological women's sports. You may not think it's an issue, but when trans women beat the shit out of biological women in combat sports, those biological women aren't transphobic for thinking that's unfair lol Also, no one is arguing to "pretend it doesn't exist" Who has ever argued for that? No one I know. Just attack his actual argument....don't just state other crazy arguments that were never made and act like you're correcting something.

[@neil2444]

@@DocRealTalk Ben Shapiro in his "debunked" series regarding the transgender spectrum specifically talks about not having terms for transgender people and to simply treat them as men or women with mental issues that need to be addressed. So yeah, "pretend it doesn't exist" is a thing, or at least it is for Ben Shapiro. He didn't mention that specifically in this video though, so I can understand the confusion. " when trans women beat the shit out of biological women in combat sports, those biological women aren't transphobic". Did I say they were transphobic? Also for the record, I did mention having a test to make that distinction, so I'm not claiming there are no differences between trans women and women whatsoever. Don't make the very same mistake you're accusing me of making and make crazy arguments that were never made.

[@djProduct2008]

Ben Shapiro asks an astrophysicist a social science question in an effort to sound smart.

[@djProduct2008]

@Kyle Kyle Yeah and NDT isn't a biologist either. He did shut that idiot Shapiro down though. Anyone with an IQ of 80 could do that. Shapiro didn't really need to find a scientist of any field to expose himself as a moron.

[@thomasdahman1594]

Men can play in women's sports. As long as i can bet on them 😂

[@CheerfullyCynical829]

Jokes aside, a man with a mutilated penis and scrotum should NOT be allowed to compete in women's sports.

[@Lyre000]

​​@@CheerfullyCynical829that's right, not necessarily a mutilated man can compete with women. Unfortunately, here we're talking about trans women, not mutilated men.

[@mikejunior80]

Ben Shapiro trying to have scientific conversation with an actual scientist. Complete fail.

[@2bescenecom]

Right hahaha

[@dimmy1315]

Its not even a scientific conversation. No literature that parses at genetic/social/clinical explanations for being transgender and the conversation goes into the biology of transness but they don't actually discuss any of it. No talk of androgenic disorders, neurological differences, cognitive pathologies - nothing. Not too mention, ben shapiro is pulling the usual trick that many 'debaters' do is that they interview LAY PEOPLE on incredibly nuanced and complex topics. Neil is a physicist, he's not a Psychologist, Psychiatrist, Geneticist, or Physician that specifically handles trans health. He wouldn't know shit about this topic and positioning him as a worthy debater because hes a scientist is ridiculous.

[@liquidmark5081]

Neil Degrasse Tyson is objectively more intelligent than Ben Shapiro

[@hyamsinvestments784]

You can remove "objectively" and your statement is more correct.

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

I'm getting older, is "objectively" new slang for "holy sheet gawd dam phuck by a lot"? I may be out of touch 😉

[@chrishooge3442]

Gods Bless Neil Degrasse Tyson.

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

@@chrishooge3442 may the great celestial consciousness remember him always 🥰

[@bfk1970]

As far as accomplishments go, that's like Gordon Ramsay is a better chef than my new pair of bright blue crocs.

[@saulgoodman7509]

He is literally obsessed with trans people. Acting like trans people playing women's sports is the greatest problem facing humanity. There are real problems in the world and his constant chattering about make believe problems is not just annoying, but also hurtful to many people just trying to get on with their lives.

[@larzinthelibrary2530]

@Riff Raf That's what I suspect is behind a lot of this. internalized homophobia- they're worried about being attracted to a trans woman and thus possibly "gay".

[@AnEvolvingApe]

Shabibo is obsessed with trans people because he knows there is nuance in the trans athlete debate and it is one of the very few issues where conservatives have some leverage in their argument. Almost every other issue conservatives like Shabibo are morally and intellectually wrong so they've picked this battle so they don't have to debate other issues where they get crushed.

[@codychambers8007]

@@anewfuture women athletes will no longer be a thing it will be men’s and well other mens

[@rolturn]

I am glad you brought up sports, because this is where I say our society does/should have issues with how we are handling trans issues. As a man with daughter's, I do have skin in this game. When biological males are given space to intrude into women's sports and take away the win that women in sports would receive then I say that is wrong. What is the point in having sport separated by gender if we are going to then take that away from them? It is demoralizing to a woman to train so hard only to not be able to "win" because guys are now taking over their sports. And males should care about how we are taking away the female self-esteem.

[@saulgoodman7509]

@@rolturn you are full of it! You make out like there is an epidemic of male athletes transitioning to women, with all of the difficulty involved in that, just so they can dominate womens sports. Its absolute nonsense.

[@ZombieDowneyJr]

Tyson is a scientist, you are asking the wrong person if you want religious bullshit.

[@adk46er5203]

Tyson is an astrology physics scientist. Not in biology. He is an idiot. He think women will catch men athletically. That has never happened. Why would it happen in the future. He is basically a woke idiot

[@Dan-ud8hz]

“No one is more arrogant toward women, more aggressive or scornful, than the man who is anxious about his virility.” ― Simone de Beauvoir , The Second Sex

[@silvermainecoons3269]

Great quote, it’s so true!

[@gregrock7451]

Well, Cenk is the kind of guy who will tacitly support a woman getting fired from a popular TV series for making a harmless and innocuous joke about gender pronouns, revel in Laura Ingraham facing backlash for mocking David Hogg's failed bid to get into UCLA (which she didn't), and accuse Sarah Palin of saying BLM protesters "aren't people" seconds before reading a printed transcript of the remark that showed she said they "weren't people" (which he failed to notice). He also once snidely suggested that women in general were "genetically inferior." Jeez, he must be a total flaming whoopsie, or something...

[@shesaidsomething1]

@6eq uj5 Men who are scared about their 'manliness' manifest this kind of garbage. Also, yah he's kinda effeminate (which is super cool but....run for the hills scared testosterone men).

[@liquidmark5081]

@6eq uj5 he keeps demanding that AOC debate him and getting visibly upset and acts like an incel because she keeps ignoring him.

[@drugilbert2447]

@@liquidmark5081 AOC is wise to avoid any debate with Shapiro. Completely different skill sets.

[@DakkhonBlackBlade]

NDT is the man. He literally deflated Ben on the spot. Took his anger and hate and changed it and then asked what’s your point?

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

Stopped him dead with a deadpan "are you effing kidding me right now" face 🤣 love Neil and his cousin Mike

[@DakkhonBlackBlade]

@Kyle Kyle no you totally missed the point. Good try though.

[@jondeibe2294]

@Kyle Kyle1. ) Some people say that gender is a social construct even without proof as they cannot go back and tell us when gender was constructed or who constructed it. 2.) They say that under this social construct, people act or behave in society in specific ways. Ergo, it is based upon their gender stereotyping. 3.) They then believe they are a certain gender of the indeterminate number of genders they say exist but never prove that an indeterminate number exist. 4.) They believe they are a certain gender based upon what they say that certain social construct is, acts, or how it behaves within society. 5.) They do not prove the gender they claim to be is based upon reality, as it could all be fantasy and in their head, a make-believe world, or the gender they claim to be could be derived by negative outward stimuli that pushed them a certain direction into thinking they are a certain "gender", etc, and feelings aren't facts. 6.) If gender is a construct, then tRaNs must also be a construct and will have to be deconstructed. 7.) Therefore they need to prove 100% they are a certain gender objectively and not subjectively. 8.) Given they make the claim they are this, the burden of proof is upon them to prove their so-called "gender" as just taking their word for it won't suffice. Ultimately, they need to provide empirical proof to bolster their feelings. 9.) What objective criteria do they use to determine they are this? Saying they are x, y, or z doesn't make it so anymore than they clicking their heels together saying "I'm whatever" makes it so. 10.) Feeling you are something doesn't make it so, whereas, for just one example, chromosomes, hip structure, muscle output, bone density, etc, etc, are objective and imperical, and override feelings any day of the week as believing one is tRaNS is ultimately subjective.

[@johnlast8578]

Whats the point of people making statements in regards hard science?

[@JamesOfKS]

@Kyle Kyle the point was ok then what? What's the end game with that?

[@minsmama]

I'm surprised someone as intelligent as NDT wasted his time with Ben Huffing Helium Shapiro

[@occhamsrazor]

I was doing it before just was never able to point it succinctly as this B5 quote... When a person does a foolish thing, you should tell them they are doing a foolish thing. They can continue to do it, but the truth is where it needs to be.

[@occhamsrazor]

@Kyle Kyle SInce he didn't say that, you didn't actually watch the video 14 Nov 2020 bot.

[@occhamsrazor]

@Kyle Kyle Yeah, no. That's not a real thing. people would only "cancel" a scientist if they lied. Look at how the right has been trying to "cancel" Fauci for over a year now. How has that worked for them? Or the alligations of sexual harassment that NDT has had. Still not "cancelled" Also, if you "know" he didn't say that, why did you say that he did?

[@occhamsrazor]

@@FalconXE302 Come on... This is the BS crowd... Think they are really gonna side with a black scientist over their own BS?

[@boxsterman77]

Huffing Helium! Hilarious. I just cannot take his voice. But I'll give him this: It matches his face perfectly.

[@patricktanna4947]

I think Neil articulated my thoughts better than I ever could. But if I were to commentate on this conversation between the two of them, I wouldn’t characterize it as Ben getting shut down. I think it’s much better characterized as someone who gave his guest a real chance to articulate his ideas, and that it was an actual conversation between two people. It’s really tough if not impossible to change someone else’s heart and mind if a conversation like this can be characterized as someone getting destroyed or shut down.

[@REALdavidmiscarriage]

its the young turd what do you expect?

[@gratefuldad4092]

Totally agree and well said! I personally side more with Ben’s thinking than NDTs, but I very much appreciate that these two can come together to exchange ideas rather than just trying to climb on top of one another to see who’s ‘right’

[@UberHeroMystic]

Tyson laying down the intellectual smackdown on a phony self proclaimed “intellectual”

[@juliobrian4757]

It's like a Mike Tyson Fight...

[@nickcarducci3413]

that comment proves the stupidity of fkn commie tools like you and the losers that you follow, your fkn smackdown is coming tool

[@lenniebostone9123]

@@nickcarducci3413 communism is the bogeyman for you cowardly fools. go hide under the bed so the commies don't get you.

[@nurse425]

@@nickcarducci3413 Were you dropped?

[@jimcarlson3303]

Like a pea shooter vs. a Howitzer.

[@OhMyPearls]

On top of everything else, Shapiro’s voice is seriously annoying.

[@JoseGarcia-kd9ux]

he reminds me of my ex when she whines. i hate him!

[@FreshtexBlackman]

Actually he sounds like a mosquito in your ear.

[@DA-rv6vf]

He sounds like a voice over from cartoon or star wars character

[@planet4change]

Wow, so I’m not the only one who is irritated by his vocal tone and pitch ?

[@calferath]

Yeah Shapiro looks evil too.

[@nosybystanders]

Facts don’t care about your feelings Ben 🥴😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pycellesbeard9728]

Since when are "Your truth's" facts??

[@tuberx5121]

what "facts" are you referring to...specifically

[@nosybystanders]

@@tuberx5121 1) that it has no effect on how Ben lives his life and 2) this is a topic to be researched by social scientist not astrophysicist 🥴

[@nosybystanders]

@@pycellesbeard9728 right 😂

[@nosybystanders]

@live fornight the whole argument about trans individuals is simple. If you are not suffering from gender identity issues then it does not concern you. I’m not gay and gay people don’t intersect in my life that would cause me to have an opinion about them, they are not stopping me on the street causing me to be late for work, they don’t interact with me getting my daily coffee, they don’t pay my bills or interact with me and my partners relationship. I simply don’t care about how they love their lives. What I do know is that Ben cares and it’s interesting why?. Even if we don’t understand gender fluidity, it simply does not matter. It’s not for us to discuss. At least that’s how I look at it.

[@justthefactsmaam2571]

Shapiro sounds like he inhales helium all day

[@MAC-yn7sq]

Sounds better than those cackling women...

[@glint3924]

@@MAC-yn7sq no it doesn't quit sucking off the manlet will ya

[@MAC-yn7sq]

@@glint3924 😆 🤣 😂

[@toddmorningstar4206]

@@MAC-yn7sq To who exactly?

[@scavengerspc]

I can't believe Shapiro still hasn't found his grown up voice.

[@donlyemanuel]

He talks like Mickey Mouse and thinks like Mike Pence

[@johnsadler6441]

It's sad but I feel the same. Too many Helium balloons perhaps. Hard to take him seriously

[@scavengerspc]

Good points all. I always thought he sounded like one of the Chipmunks.

[@joanna62]

to have a grown up voice you need to BE a grown up :)

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

@@donlyemanuel That's brilliant. 🤣

[@leodragonfang4814]

asking an astrophysicist about gender science makes me think Shapiro is trying to pull some sort of argument from authority fallacy to use later to his advantage. but it backfires when Tyson doesn't fall into that trap and proves he knows what he is talking about.

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

Not if you listen to the whole thing.

[@archimmes]

Lololz, yeah what brilliant point of “let’s not offend the idiots regardless of the scientific fact that dunks on their whiny bitch feels”.

[@michaedove3562]

@@archimmes Neal Degrasse Tyson points out, rather poignantly in my opinion, that Ben Shapiro's position isnt based on accomplishing anything other than driving hate and discord...and its kind of funny that Ben lapdogs like you prove his point.

[@luciencubano]

I’m convinced Ben Shapiro isn’t smart enough to know what Neil said to him. Period.

[@luciencubano]

@Howard Bueker bet I could. I paid attention in science class.. was one of my favs. I won’t judge you tho, because you were lost. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@brichan1851]

I am conservative and I am quite passionate about science, along with the scientific method. The condescending tone at the beginning of this video is deeply offensive and steeped in prejudice. Ben Shapiro has never suggested anyone go to a re-education camp. He has never excused, nor advocated for, violence against trans people, or any other people. He has merely stated that the biology of men and women is locked in our DNA, and cannot be reversed, no matter how one feels, thinks, identifies as, lives as, or alters themselves through surgery to be. Like it or not, males are born male. Females are born females. That’s all he is saying. I don’t disagree with either of these men. I think both make solid points in their stances on the trans-gender phenomenon. To simply write off either point of view as ignorant because you disagree with their stance is showing your own ignorance, not Ben Shapiro’s or Neil Degrasse Tyson’s. Please keep in mind that Ben Shapiro is very devout as a Jewish man and sticks to his orthodoxy as “gospel truth.” In that way, he feels that this is all a matter of God’s design. As God is perfect, he sees this as man’s (and woman’s) perversion of God’s perfection. Due to his devout faith, he should not be faulted for having his beliefs as they are.

[@TrailoFire]

Most conservatives only support science when it backs up their religious beliefs or convictions, but then claim it to be bullshit when it doesn't back up scripture. Not saying that is you, but speaking from what I've experienced .

[@brichan1851]

@@TrailoFire a fair point. Being close minded often leads to dangerous thinking. I choose to be open-minded and consider other points of view.

[@randydoak6638]

Note to Ben Shapiro, don’t book actual smart people.

[@DaemonKeido]

Or at least book people who appear smart that actually agree with your dumb bullshit.

[@rh4709]

Ben crushed him on the full vid fam

[@liquidmark5081]

@@rh4709 Ben Shapiro doesn’t actually crush anybody. He just gish-gallops people until they shrug and say “whatever”

[@vladbagdasarov1672]

@@liquidmark5081 Dude this "scientist" would even recite 4th grade biology, too afraid of the woke mob coming to cancel him and his new book. I thought that was obvious.

[@thegazetteyt]

"It's real and it's there." Shapiro just does not want it to be true. He is trying to graph science like they did religion. To sculpt it to their ideological standards.

[@rebekahdavis5935]

exactly

[@bobtony6036]

sorry, but Shapiro is actually correct here, not a religious person, but saying an XY male is the same as an XX female is simply incorrect scientifically. Tyson, along with other public facing scientists simply dodge the question for obvious reasons, it is used to dehumanize people, which I am against, but you don't get to make up your own definitions for the sake of the "greater good", that in and of itself one could argue is how religion came into being in the first place...........

[@shariwelch8760]

@@bobtony6036 I strongly suggest you take some college level biology classes at your nearest community college.

[@notallowed337]

@@bobtony6036 youre right. Most extremists dont like facts or reality. No different than tRumpf loving Republicans in that regard

[@notallowed337]

@Joey Havarti Tyson cannot challenge the science thats why he changes the premise of the argument to societal based. Basically he said society is f'd up

[@mrhettg9402]

Here’s a question for science, when is Ben Shapiro finally going to go through puberty?

[@JnEricsonx]

When his brain grows up, the body will follow. I have the opposite deal. I'm in my 40s, but my mindset is still below drinking age imho.

[@gavinelster3168]

Hears a question for the art community : Are Bens eyebrows intentionally threaded and filled to resemble French Fops? Because… I think his stylist has a more promising career than this.

[@joeycrooks6217]

He sound's like a 4chan user who just went on a rage rant about the non-binary gender option in Call Of Duty

[@emanymton5789]

scientifically speaking....when christmas and easter are on the same day and hell freezes over

[@gavinelster3168]

@@emanymton5789 is that the science hell or the Jesus’y hell?

[@nasimmusleh7902]

The belief that being transgender is a choice or caused by societal factors is not supported by scientific evidence and is not widely accepted by the medical and psychological communities. Here are some key points to consider: Gender identity is a deeply-held sense of one's own gender, whether male, female, both, neither, or something else entirely. It is believed to be influenced by a complex interplay of biological, genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors that occur during fetal development and early childhood. There is evidence to suggest that gender identity may have a biological basis, and that transgender individuals may have brain structures and neurobiological patterns more similar to their gender identity than their assigned sex at birth. Transgender individuals often experience a disconnect between their gender identity and the sex they were assigned at birth. This incongruence between gender identity and physical characteristics can cause distress, often referred to as gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is recognized as a legitimate medical condition by major medical and psychiatric organizations, including the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, and the World Health Organization. Research has shown that social and environmental factors, such as societal attitudes, discrimination, stigma, and lack of acceptance, can contribute to the distress experienced by transgender individuals. However, these factors are not considered to be the cause of being transgender. Rather, they are external factors that can exacerbate the challenges faced by transgender individuals, who may already be dealing with internal struggles related to their gender identity. Gender identity is a valid and recognized aspect of human diversity, and being transgender is not considered a mental disorder. The current understanding in the field of psychology and medicine is that being transgender is a legitimate variation of human gender identity, and transgender individuals deserve respect, support, and access to appropriate medical care, including gender-affirming treatments such as hormone therapy and gender-affirming surgeries, if desired.

[@evanroberts2771]

Gender dysphoria WAS defined as a mental disorder but was changed for ONE reason. "The diagnosis was renamed from gender identity disorder to gender dysphoria, after criticisms that the former term was stigmatizing." NOT because it suddenly wasn't a disorder, but because weak minded people were offended by the terminology... That was the ONLY reason the name was changed and the category changed. Because of being told you had a f'ing disorder. That you're NOT normal. That you have a mental defect just like ADHD or psychopathy. A defect. An abnormality.

[@nasimmusleh7902]

@@evanroberts2771 It is true that the diagnosis related to gender identity has undergone changes over time. The diagnosis was previously known as Gender Identity Disorder (GID) and was changed to Gender Dysphoria in 2013 in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). The change in terminology was in response to feedback from the transgender community and healthcare professionals, who felt that the term "disorder" was stigmatizing and could contribute to discrimination against transgender individuals. The purpose of the change was not to deny that gender dysphoria can cause significant distress and impairment in individuals who experience it, but rather to shift the focus of the diagnosis from the individual's identity to the distress caused by the incongruence between one's gender identity and assigned sex. It's important to understand that the diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria does not pathologize being transgender, nor does it suggest that individuals who experience gender dysphoria are "defective" or "abnormal." Rather, it acknowledges the distress and impairment that some individuals may experience as a result of the incongruence between their gender identity and assigned sex, and provides a framework for healthcare professionals to provide appropriate care and support to individuals experiencing gender dysphoria.

[@dankmartin6510]

There is no scientific evidence that male biology can generate a female mind; none whatsoever. Until you have done the work to prove that male brains can ever generate a female mind, your assertions about 'science' apply only to the pseudo- variety.

[@hershelbabymomma231]

“What are you trying to accomplish?” Neil Degrasse

[@Runswithwolves6323]

Oh idk maybe "THE TRUTH"!!! Ben Shapiro.👍😜

[@bloomerdavid]

@@Runswithwolves6323 why is it so hard on your agenda?

[@Runswithwolves6323]

@@bloomerdavid stfu...I cannot talk to the brainless

[@marcintosh4040]

@@bloomerdavid if finding the truth is a bad thing, then neil always love to mention that he has always been curios and always wants to reveal the truth

[@toddmorningstar4206]

@@Runswithwolves6323 What truth?

[@skler69]

Tyson: "Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals Ben?"

[@Mannyfresh23able]

Because deep down inside Ben Shapiro is probably one too but just won't come out of the closet , just like J Edgar Hoover. Lol

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

@@Mannyfresh23able Hoover was a cross dresser, allegedly. it's different than a transexual.

[@marctouss1862]

it's self loathing... he should just live his truth... he'd be much happier...

[@docdirtymrclean3610]

Remember...he's baffled by the P-word. Thinks Women dont lubricate during sex and his Wife (who is most definitely cucking him) is the one who told him that. *A gynecologist mind you* ! You cant make this stuff up

[@AnEvolvingApe]

Shabibo is obsessed with trans people because he knows there is nuance in the trans athlete debate and it is one of the very few issues where conservatives have some leverage in their argument. Almost every other issue conservatives like Shabibo are morally and intellectually wrong so they've picked this battle so they don't have to debate other issues where they get crushed.

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[@johnrichard1373]

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[@morganrose2357]

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[@lalotime]

Not sure if he shut Ben shapiro down, it was more like "yeah you are right Ben that there are biological separate sexes, but why do you care if a male identifies as a woman?"

[@florianopolis6299]

That is kinda shutting him down as he was prepared to stomp on a non-issue and blow it up...as usual. Then he was confused that neil didn't play by his roles and started what is commonly known as a "discussion". Therefore he couldn't go on with his script and was lost.. Therefore shut down.

[@marcintosh4040]

@@florianopolis6299 if this is what is shutting one down, then you need to watch more ben's video to know what shutting one down or even neil's. if anything, neil understood the issue that ben was touching upon and admitted that he doesnt have any bright ideas to resolve that issue

[@florianopolis6299]

@@marcintosh4040 them we must have watched 2 different videos. Ben never had a point as he wasn't even able to express why he was so vehemently trying to make one. He tried to explain a biological fact which HE GOT WRONG, because biology is much more complicated and there are more than 2 sexes and there are even more genders. Both are science and evidence based. Neil was nice about it when he only touched on I've of those points. But maybe you are right and Ben was not sure down... But that was because he simply is to uneducated to understand that he doesn't know anything.

[@marcintosh4040]

@@florianopolis6299 i am right and ben wasnt sure with neil? yea right

[@florianopolis6299]

@@marcintosh4040 try to read again. ;) That's not what I wrote. What, you have to see those things in contexts. Ben is a lying bigot and biology is biology. Just easily proven facts.

[@jonnawyatt]

NDT is very patient to have a "conversation" with that nasty little man.

[@andrewfrank7222]

Neil has mastered Vision's power of letting matter pass right through him... Except for Neil the power is specific right wing nonsense.

[@jonnawyatt]

@@andrewfrank7222 I'm not sure what you mean by Vision?

[@Songfugel]

Which is rather surprising, he is anything but patient conversationalist, and often starts raising his voice and speaking over people

[@jonnawyatt]

@@Songfugel He does but at least he has something worthwhile to say.

[@Songfugel]

@@jonnawyatt I think the Vision is some obscure Marvel reference

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[@bobbucks]

Does anyone else think Ben is struggling to understand his own deep secrets? He was so offended and disgusted by WAP, not a normal straight man's issue. Hmmm

[@daviddavies3637]

I am definitely a normal straight man and, while I wasn't offended by WAP, I thought it was a ridiculous attempt at attention-seeking. Careful with the sweeping comments.

[@johnmarks9287]

He is a closet case that needs to just admit it to himself and allow himself to be happy.

[@sydanaya]

@@johnmarks9287 you guys are literally being hypocrites with these comments Stereotyping while trying to claim the moral highground

[@johnmarks9287]

@@sydanaya How is what I said "hypocritical"? It's he that is the probable hypocrite as he hates on gay people.

[@sydanaya]

@@johnmarks9287 well, being tolerant and against stereotypes doesn’t mean that you can use stereotypes to assume that he is a gay guy in secret It makes no sense He is not right but let’s not say stupid things to be funny

[@sevilnatas]

Ben identifies as a religious Jewish person and he expects society to accept this identity. without any kind of scientific proof that Judaism, or any other of the religions, is true or real. It is just an idea, a feeling, one must have to accept his identity, based on faith. As Neil mentioned, we live in a free society and it is his right to identify and get the benefits of his identity and it is just the right, polite thing to do, to accept how he would like to identify. In fact, we as a society have decided to protect his right to identify and exist as a Jewish man, why can't we afford the same rights to transgender people?

[@tourist6797]

L

[@sevilnatas]

@@tourist6797 Agreed.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Absolutely agree!

[@fraiopatll633]

BAD reasoning! Here's why: If Ben imposed requirements on us vis-à-vis his unjustified (and false, in my view) beliefs, then I would strenuously oppose his impositions. For example, the Christian Right in the US has been for a very long time imposing --- to varying degrees --- its ideology on the American Society in myriad ways. Against that I stand in staunch opposition. I don't think Ben and his ilk have attempted to demand legislation to force us to accept their feelings in any form they present themselves. In fact, you don't have to engage them. You don't have to even know anything about their belief systems, etc. The situation with transgender activism is quite different. While I strongly believe that they should be left alone to live their lives as they please, I think they have overstepped in their demands that society bend to some of their unfair and unjust demands.

[@dshendricks71]

Because being Jewish is a real thing.

[@yiarkungfu]

Neil doing what few will do, asking why you have such a problem with this. The why? is conservative cryptonite.

[@Mick0722MX]

Maybe it's because many people don't like having bullshit rammed down their throats.

[@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts]

@@Mick0722MX Why do you think it's bullshit? And why does it bother you so much to begin with?

[@1369Stiles]

@@Mick0722MX i live in a deep red state. i've had christianity and right wing politics shoved down my throat for 52 yrs. at least these people are trying to live their own lives, instead of trying to CONVERT pricks like you into what they are.

[@Mick0722MX]

@@1369Stiles I don't care where you live nor do I care how you were raised. It also has nothing to do with how people live their lives. It has to do with ideologues ramming their unscientific beliefs down everyone's throats. I figured that after 52 years, an idiot like you would at least see that.

[@Mick0722MX]

@Tanner I'm not deciding anything. Biology does. Try to keep up.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

_"Why do you give a shit?"_ The question Ben had never pondered.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@Jao Bi-den Cool, why didn't he answer then?

[@schibleh531]

@@BaronVonQuiply Because his sky daddy said so, duh.

[@machestro7]

Because it's really easy getting money out of people who started out hateful.

[@OverlyCriticalAnime]

That works both ways but what do I know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@dracoargentum9783]

that requires thinking ahead.

[@janehudson838]

When an amoeba meets an intellectual giant 😂

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Yes, it takes towering intellect to answer a simple question with "It's a free country and people have the right to be believe what they want." No s***. It's my constitutional right to call myself "trans-65", but we need an objective standard of who's 65 to decide who gets Social Security.

[@AlisonGothard]

@@Dennis-nc3vw "it's a free country and I can believe whatever I want" is what hard core right wingers say all the time. The fact is that it's none of your business if a person lives as a different gender than they were assigned at birth. It's nobody's business which washroom they choose to pee in. Note that it's transwomen who are mostly under attack, and people rarely mention transmen. This is because of toxic masculinity. TERFs think anyone born with a penis is a predator. Insecure men fear that someone is trying to trick them into gay sex, and that the solution is to show how manly they are by spotting "the gays in disguise". Trust me, transwomen have zero interest in even speaking to people like that, let alone having sex with them.

[@pashatemurtem]

Projection, fear, and hatred is a toxic norm for arch-nationalist-religio-mono-culturalist-conservatives the world over. We have an opportunity to save our world and evolve if we adapt and accept that humans have not arrived at some final perfected form. We don't know the future, but we can imagine a future in which we train our minds on compassion, respect, and collaboration. To survive the challenges for which we are responsible, we need to mind our children. If we do not teach them respect for ALL life, they will be less able to collaborate. No one community can bring the necessary talent and work to stop the craziness of denying facts, refusing to think critically and long term. The "y" chromosome is degrading and a new chromosome will develop to take the function of that chromosome in determining the Male sex. We don't know all that can mean, but denying it will not stop the process. Maybe being woke is necessary to survival. The old paradigms are falling away. They no longer answer the questions confronting humans and the Earth. The resistance to change on a global scale is only bringing on the critical moments faster. Technology, the product of critical thought, is outpacing our ability to cope with the concomitant complexity. It is time to deal with the real problems and stop slinging mud to distract. We need to accept that we do not have all the answers and we need to stop creating gods in our image. We must fix our problems ourselves and respect and accept ALL life: male, female, whole biome, animal, human, old and young, in whatever combination. All are due the means to sustenance, shelter, care, and peaceful habitation and to deny anyone of these natural rights is craven and abhorrent!

[@dustydo8048]

Religion doesn’t mind “adjusting” science for the sake of its identity

[@BeNice3525]

Could you provide an example please ? Thanks

[@src3360]

@@BeNice3525 Jesus died and came back a zombie... Hows that??

[@g00gleminus96]

@@BeNice3525 Ok, here you go: Galileo was persecuted by the Catholic religion for having the gaul to plainly state an objectively observable scientific truth. Why? Because the dogma of the Catholic religion included the notion that the Earth was the centre of the solar system and Galileo challenged that notion. And so the church tried to suppress real science and substitute its own pseudoscience becasue any challenge to church authority was a challenge to the power of the church. And then there's the modern pseudoscience bullshit perpetrated by fundamentalist Christian pseudoscientists. Creationism, Flat Earth Theory, homophobia, etc. All of these are a defensive response to the fact that objective reality is a challenge to religious dogma.

[@notallowed337]

@@g00gleminus96 yeahhh but the Catholics are not really legit. Maybe the first 2 popes were decent but the rest have been pimps

[@notallowed337]

@@alexusbratva878 he has never had an experience where they enjoyed it with him

[@WinterSo1dier]

Ben: talks fast as to try to appear to be intelligent Neil: talks slow and concise and is actually intelligent

[@Scott2122232425]

YES!

[@stephentucker614]

Ben talking fast has nothing to do with appearing intelligent. Both are very intelligent. Tysons "its real and its there" is hilarious. Whats real is, that people born one sex thinks that they can magically become the opposite by saying they are. Thats not reality. You are what you are and if you can't accept yourself for what you are, don't expect others to accept you for what you are pretending to be.

[@odinisnotthesomefather4687]

@@stephentucker614 Benny stick only to well rehearsed scripts. If the other person doesn't fall for his misdirection and gaslighting, he throws a temper tantrum. Benny is a hack. Definitely not smart.

[@stephentucker614]

@@odinisnotthesomefather4687 he probably does have a script for his show but you do know he tours all over the place and takes questions right? That can't be scripted. With your line of logic, how do you feel about the president having rehersed Q and A with the media? Its been proven all of that is scripted, but when someone throws him a curveball he gets flustered and sometimes mad.

[@odinisnotthesomefather4687]

@@stephentucker614 hahaha! Whataboutisms. It doesn't defend your ridiculous claim that Little Benny is smart or well spoken. Like the way he humiliated himself reciting the lyrics to WAP, completely misunderstanding them. Or the temper tantrum and rage quit when a BBC conservative interviewed him. Benny is a dolt, and a crybaby. And you're a bloody fool for defending him.

[@Arltratlo]

Tyson said it right, free country, but for right wingers, only they have the right to freedom... no one else is born with that right to a free country... and never talk about slavery, it never happened in the USA...

[@toughgirl6837]

Yeh you should know all about slavery. Your ancestors Democrats were the slave owners and KKK. When right wingers talk about freedom. We mean it for everyone. You are the ones who ban free speech, guns, lawfulness. Because you have the megaphones like big tech and MSM. You however like the NAZis are the bigots, tyrants and racists. Trying to take guns, ban free speech and steal others hard work. Just read through this liberal thread. It’s full of hate, malice and insults. Never seen so much cruelty of thinking by a group. Liberals need to learn to not be triggered when they are challenged. We are a country formed by dissent and rebellion. Not complacency and vigilante mob rule. Your hypocrisy and pompous sanctimony is called out for good reason by the right. Because, just like the Nazis who thought they were superior, banned books and imprisoned dissenters. You will someday be the one crying when the dominant discourse no longer favors liberalism. Justice for the evils done by the Democrats party will be finally prosecutes. It will be your downfall. When enough intelligent people wake up to the truth and act moral again. I will not cry for you. Because you will deserve everything you and your evil party get at that time.

[@the_algorithm]

@@toughgirl6837 Southern CONSERVATIVES... Nice try at deflection. Please argue with a M.A. is History. I will own your ass.

[@plainolamerican]

@@toughgirl6837 1. Every Nazi was a white christian. 2. The Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right. The phrase "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support. This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. The scholarly consensus is that racial conservatism was critical in the post-Civil Rights Act realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties. Several aspects of this view have been debated by some historians and political scientists. The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years. In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.

[@plainolamerican]

@@dlg78 Slavery existed in both the north and the South even during the unCivil War.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

What freedoms are we trying to take away? You keep cowering behind this empty dogma. The fact is, we have things in our society for women, half of which you leftists asked for. Women's scholarships, women's prisons, women's locker rooms, Affirmative Action for women, women's shelters...so I'm pretty f***ing sure we should figure out what a woman is.

[@corwin8558]

People should get their minds out of other people's pants.

[@menachemsemel2940]

As Neil said: people want an objective truth. I want an objective truth. I don't want women in my family having to worry obout biological males going into their bathroom.

[@micheleriley4514]

Shapiro didn't understand a single thing he said.

[@itkojecockot]

that's because NdT basically didn't say anything...... he dodged the question..... I saw the whole interview

[@dlg78]

Neil didn't 'say' anything, for fear of being cancelled.

[@ohawwgeez3112]

Shabibo literally admitting he only cares about being a provocateur.

[@Ramiromasters]

No answer was given, nobody was offended by reason of not hearing an answer, except those looking for one.

[@mengxiong7630]

I think Shapiro thought Neil was just gonna go along with everything he said.

[@epix4300]

When did he admit that?

[@willsofer3679]

@@epix4300 I think the OP meant (thought I'm not sure) that it's because he's not actually responding to what Tyson is saying. He just moves the goalposts somewhere else. This is what a provocateur does when faced with a rational response. So, not "literally", in the literal sense, but figuratively?

[@epix4300]

@@willsofer3679 You know, that's a really good point

[@dreamerdespierta]

There’s a famous saying in Spanish that goes like this. “Lo que uno no puede ver, en su casa lo ha de tener.” “what one cannot see in his house, he must have in his house.”

[@Xathos]

By that logic, the vast majority of people have cocaine in their house. Don't get me wrong, I'd approve of that, but my point still stands.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@Xathos I can't see a lamb roast dinner in my house........ Nope, still nothing.

[@docdirtymrclean3610]

@@Xathos its the same thining as the saying , " the lady doth protest too much, methinks". in that he seems TOOO interested and into the subject to be actually... Against it. Like there's skeletons rattling in that closet and he cant stop shaking them. lol

[@dlanodpmurt5531]

If Ben is not using coke, he should. i wonder how fast he would talk on coke. And I wonder if his voice would go up correspondingly a couple of octaves.

[@violetwest3563]

Jesus you made me laugh !! So accurate

[@N0RZC]

​@@violetwest3563jesus coke

[@daisyrossdo2083]

😂😂😂 if he was to do coke he would be talking like them auctioneer guys that talk so fast all you hear is the first n last word imagine he already speaks fast without breathing lmfao😂😂😂😂

[@Shin8bi]

Ben is a Beta male shill for the elites... I am a bit annoyed at my boy Niell accepting this perversion of the male and female energies.

[@FeralMina]

That clip is an clear example of markedly divergent motivations; One person is engaging in order to both thoughtfully explore the varied spectrum of opinion and also consider and define objective reality… and one person whose only motivation is to be “right” and “win” the argument. You can’t ever have a good-faith discussion with the latter.

[@michaedove3562]

I thought it was more a revelation that Ben's on the side of presenting an argument with the purpose of driving hatred and anger and not solving anything.

[@Madmartigan6]

Since when it stating what is objectively true a problem? Tyson even says he cares about what is objectively true right after... Tyson just doesn't want to get cancelled by agreeing with basic biological facts 😂

[@michaedove3562]

@@Madmartigan6 "Since when is stating what is objectively true a problem?" You're not married are you Guy Pierce?

[@Madmartigan6]

@@michaedove3562 LOL.. I am. And now I guess I have to admit, you are right 🤣

[@fd4511]

Two divergent ideas of reality: 1) Adults have the agency and autonomy to participate in society with their unique contribution, and to discover who they are, and what best works for them, while being financially responsible for their decisions; 2) Reality is set in the old books, for all times, by the prophets and church, and we should toe the line, or else. That being said, I don't believe that the gender reassignment/confirmation surgery, specifically, has to be financed by others. But, I will respect the person's desire to be identified as a particular gender, when they let me know their preference. Whoever wants the procedure, should work hard like everyone else, and pay for the elective procedure's expenses. I argue that this is not a medically necessary procedure that we could compare to burn patients, or traffic accident patients. I do understand the opposing argument, but don't see it as a strong argument for public funding of the elective procedures, other than counseling. I don't see their original bodies as deformed, and we shouldn't have to support their surgery when they see their perfect bodies as alien to them. Just as we shouldn't have to support and pay for the tattoos, piercings, and other "modifications" that people do to feel more like themselves. Slippery slope, once you acknowledge and choose to finance something as a "human rights" issue. That open-ended approach to culture issues, and public funding of these issues, might be a part of the reason the conservatives are freaking out. Is the "identity" really whatever any individual person says it is for them, and do we all have to pay for it? This segues into a related public policy question: Could we have a federal (and state) budget with brackets that are financed from taxes by consent? Some kind of ranked-choice budget, where people can choose to put their money where their beliefs are?

[@jparko4944]

It's simply projection. He's deeply insecure about his own perceived masculinity.

[@macareuxmoine]

Or the lack thereof 🤭😉

[@jamesmcelroy5830]

Whenever I hear the term “Proud Boys” I always picture the Village People singing YMCA.

[@guibredacalixto9086]

lol

[@daviddavies3637]

Same here. Whoever thought of the name didn't really think it through.

[@SkageXL5]

@@daviddavies3637 nazis never think things through

[@countchoculitis1528]

@Jao Bi-den hahahahaha

[@jamesmcelroy5830]

@Jao Bi-den who said anything about being gay?

[@Cilantrchef]

Ohhh...don't mess with a scientist...especially Neil. It was a Tyson TKO

[@alanhamilton3789]

Neil deGrasse Tyson vs Ben Shapiro? A tiger vs a mouse? Best Shabibo can do is run and hide.

[@Grequierecafe]

I just saw the conversation between Neil de Grasse Tyson and Ben Shapiro. These two TYT people might have been watching another show. I didn’t see Shapiro as being “schooled” by anyone. The two men had a conversation. They disagreed about certain issues. The world did not end.

[@jrsanti]

Of course in your eyes, Shapiro was not schooled coz your idea of school is to teach everyone how to be a bigot on other people’s life choices. How ironic when conservatives like to talk about their freedom when it’s about their guns but when other people wants their freedom, suddenly it becomes a problem.

[@EyeonthePrize247]

Is the concept of “clickbait” confusing to you, lol? The internet is awash with it and most of the time it’s pretty harmless.

[@shoomapadoo1141]

He wasn't. It's just the left grasping at straws. Niel is sucking the liberal bell here. As it did move into the field of social science and already has been determined to be a disorder.

[@EyeonthePrize247]

@@shoomapadoo1141 You people are really something else. The delusion and stupidity just doesn’t stop.

[@jrsanti]

@@EyeonthePrize247 it’s when conservatives legislate their bigotry becomes a problem. Click and bait or talk shit to the other side, whatever you call it, is not a problem.

[@rodzalez3549]

Ben Shapiro means: “ no one should control anyone… but I should be able to tell you how to live”

[@creativewriter3887]

EXACTLY.. that's how all these moral losers are. They're so worried about what other people are doing because their lives are so pathetic and they have such self-loathing that they have to Polemic Vomit on everyone who pricks their frail masculinity and morality. Simply put.. it's deflection.. and people like Benny Sharpie are OBSESSED with sex.. that's why they rail against it and everyone else.

[@dlg78]

No, Ben specifically says many time anyone can live how they want to live. His words always are 'it's a free country, do what you wanna do'. But we can't impose our personal wants on others. Liberals on the other hand are all about control and conformity.

[@dlg78]

@@creativewriter3887 Ben shapiro....'it's a free country, do whatever the hell you want to do, I don't care' He often says that.. So how you just wrote your comment I can only guess you never watch him.

[@creativewriter3887]

@@dlg78 I've watched enough of his videos to know he's an asshat and a privileged twit who's upset that he never got to go to the prom with Ann Coulter(geist). If he "didn't care" he wouldn't be protesting as much as he does.

[@outofcompliance1639]

How did you get that? He is saying do what you want but don't force other people into your fantasy of reality. Men can't become women... literally true.

[@catherinejohnson1354]

That was good, love Neil!!!

[@mathewg7053]

Everyone pause it at 6:13 mark Andrew Kasparian has the most overt prominent Adam’s apple right in the middle of his trachea. Look at the jawline also and the broad shoulders and listen to the blatantly masculine voice tenor and inflection. THIS IS AN OVERTLY COVERT YOU KNOW WHAT.

[@jameskent5347]

It's funny how he acts so pro-science when his allies consist of young earth creationists, pro conversion camp, climate change denying, conspiracy theorists.

[@jrg770]

"act's is the key. He only uses it thinking it puts his opponents in a corner. But it is remarkable how his fans jump on board with that thinking they 'found' a hole in the armor lol

[@darthwiizius]

@@jrg770 Flat Earth logic 101, try to use scientific terminology to deny science.

[@zoeherriot]

Plus - we know that biologically sexuality is far more complex than just saying man or woman. He might find it an interesting field if he bothered to actually read about it (or maybe he did, and it made him feel gay and he didn't like it).

[@vladbagdasarov1672]

@@darthwiizius Did Neal just deny basic 4th grade biology here?

[@ethanshrago461]

Neil asking what we should ask every bigot: "Dude, why do you even care?"

[@RiceBiomedicine]

Bigots are the world's original snowflakes. They need constant safe spaces from the things they don't understand or are even just unfamiliar with.

[@albertparish1729]

"iT'S uNatuRaL"

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

I'm trans-65. Don't judge me but give me Social Security, you bigot.

[@vladbagdasarov1672]

Same question should be asked about pedophiles. Dude why you even have a registry, they're here, they exist let them live free and dont take away any of thier freedoms. Absoutely moronic

[@markportnoy6290]

In athletics, a person's sex counts. Sports separate boys and girls and men and women because women and girls would never play if you didn't.

[@desdoyle7839]

Those who continually talk about sexual identity obviously have sexual identity issues themselves.

[@SpectacularDisaster]

Why would Shapiro think he'd beat an astrophysicist in a debate

[@Cygnus888]

Because they weren't talking about astrophysics. Shapiro probably thought he could get Tyson. He didn't consider that Tyson is a public speaker.

[@wreckingKREW1]

Why would Shapiro thing he could be a house plant in a debate would be a better question. Sentinent beings,he's gonna get his ass handed to him 100 times out of 100.

[@deannasmith4443]

why does mr sha-p-word think an astrophysicist is the person to ask questions about human sex and gender? wouldn't it be far far better for him to talk to a biologist?

[@joec8649]

Lol shuts down? And they use all capitals? Give me a break lol, what a joke this channel is.

[@awsome6497]

Lol crying this bad cope

[@artistikvip]

“But where you going with this?” I’ll be honest, I’ve been asking that for years.

[@mrjpb23]

To the bank, after he cashes in on foaming up some rubes

[@artistikvip]

@@mrjpb23 easy for you to say: youre boxy brown, duke of new york. A-#1

[@mrjpb23]

@@artistikvip Damn right 😉

[@rh4709]

Because if you allow one thing, you open the floodgates.

[@KF75411]

@@rh4709 The slippery slope argument... Always rock solid.

[@okyhandoko8029]

Anyway, Francesca... I am waiting for your debate with Ben Shapiro, Girl!

[@benjaminleviston5559]

Shapiro's voice is the voice every black comedian does when imitating a white mans voice!!!

[@Mr2fiveone]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahTRUE

[@emilianosintarias7337]

so every black comedian is dave chapelle ?

[@Facts-Over-Feelings]

SO ACCORDING TO TWISTED NEIL WHAT IS HIS POINT.. JUST STUDY ALL THE UNNATURAL THINGS IN SOCIETY...OK LETS JUST STUDY BESTIALITY , DRAG QUEEN STORY TIME WHERE GROWN MEN IN DRESSES STRIP DANCE FOR CHILDREN...THIS HAPPENS NOW.. TYT. HOW THE HELL DID NEIL DEGRASSE SCHOOL BEN SHAPIRO EXACTLY... AND THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN'T STAND RACIST BEN SHAPIRO 99.9% OF THE TIME.

[@xpsxps1339]

@@Facts-Over-Feelings Neil's point was that other's people choices are not Ben's business. I add - unless those people commit a crime. Period. Where do you live, man? Where is the place where the adult men in the female outfit dance for children...? Have you forgotten about the Internet? You can find plenty of bad things over there, and the kids don't need to go anywhere from their home to see that. Let alone talk about misconduct right in the families. Ben and you just talk, okay, you screamed, lol, but seriously. There surely are the families close to you that may need help and guidance from some responsible adult if you feel so. How many of those families/kids have you tried to help and save if you are so worried about them...? So dear you, Ben, and all similar to you, guys! Stop talking/screaming and start acting. Go to a dysfunctional family if you know some and help them if you really care. What you and also Ben(!) are doing right now doesn't help anybody and anything. Thank you all for your responsible choices!

[@mwfmtnman]

@@Facts-Over-Feelings settle down with the all capa you spaz. By your reaction I am guessing you are a closet case.

[@voidOfreason2]

Being trans, gender fluid etc... Is not new, many ancient cultures had this in their society and in some those people held places of honor

[@freckleheckler6311]

😂😂😂😂😂 no they didn’t. If there’s any historical scene to this, they did NOT have science. They had religion, and primitive thinking. This is a i**ness

[@xxxnarfxxx]

@@freckleheckler6311 no U are factually incorrect, cultures all over the world HAD & STILL do have just that, and this can be proven by just traveling to one of these cultures, even via the net. #LookItUp

[@lindaward3156]

@6eq uj5 Chinese culture is riddled with it, look it up. l'm a peasant myself but I've read of the Roman empire's rather open-minded society. Greeks are famous for fluid gender activities. There are 3 to start you off. You''re welcome. ☮

[@voidOfreason2]

@6eq uj5 ancient Greece, Rome, India, some native American tribes, Maya, Polynesian etc....

[@dr.fjoer_the_crazy_scienti5841]

@@freckleheckler6311... ever heared of Band of Thebes? And army of Homosexuals and in Greek religion Homosexuality represented Male Masculinity. Even some Greek Gods are Homosexual? ......

[@hy-roller7771]

I think it just comes down to some people saying "that's just not right, because I would never do that. So nobody else should either!" A lot of this could be solved if people just minded thier own f***ing business. Unfortunately, there are evangelicals.🙄

[@sleepyash00]

true!!!!

[@renemcquick9467]

Facts!!

[@garr123]

Almost like an actual libertarian position instead of Ben's authoritarian moralist nonsense.

[@lik3mik365]

Anyone else tired of biased news channels? Left or right, what about truth?

[@MM2PuppyDog]

As lame as Ben is, he didn't act like most conservatives and yell over Mr. Tyson....He actually let him speak. That doesn't usually happen with the right...

[@michaelphilip1]

The shouting comes from the left. TH

[@whyismynametaken123]

@@michaelphilip1 The shouting comes from people. Those people shouting are both left and right. Every adamant Trump supporter I know does this. I'm sure every adamant Clinton and Biden supporters do this as well, but where I live those don't really exist lol.

[@rve420]

@@michaelphilip1 Typical right winger approach, just accuse others of what you are doing. Worked for Donald Dump, might work for you too.

[@michaelphilip1]

@@rve420 typical left winger. Keep on denying the facts. Y'all are already denying your own gender already anyway. Why stop there right?

[@royw-g3120]

Human identity is all about what is between your ears, not your legs.

[@AnEvolvingApe]

Notice Shabibo tried to own the phrase "biological woman" as if the sex organs are the only things that make that distinction. He completely ignores the brain and purposely disregards it so as to appear that science is on his side and it is as true as the speed limit of light.

[@useyournoodle100]

Well said!

[@dlg78]

@@AnEvolvingApe erm.. It's called 'the sexes' because we look at sex organs and sex hormones. The clue is in the word. The brain isn't relevant to sex.

[@dlg78]

@Vincent Magnin no, the brain isn't the most important organ You can be severely brain damaged or in a coma and 'survive' perfectly, and none of it requires conscious thought...can't survive with failing lungs, liver, heart etc

[@dlg78]

@Vincent Magnin you just fabricated your own made up definition there. Children have brains, they don't have sex lives. Their sex lives only happen once sex hormones develop. If you put two babies on a desert island and they were able to grow up into full grown adults, they would have no concept of what gender even is. That's your whole paragraph debunked.

[@lazerbeam134]

I want to see the whole video of this but I don't want to give his channel views lol

[@filipv2167]

Exactly, it's PURE PROJECTION. It's all conservatives have left.

[@scottvandenboogart5390]

@6eq uj5 It's something trolls don't understand.

[@davidfrancis6727]

Having a wife and kids doesn’t make you straight.

[@cjvaye99]

see exhibit A: Steven crowder

[@RandomPerson-cl4fr]

true...it only means you have a wife and kids PERIOD

[@cjvaye99]

@risinglotuswind I dont think Ben is gay. i think he's not interested in sex at all. what's that called? he has a "wife" but judging by his reaction to that Cardi B song and his genuine confusion at what happens when a woman is aroused I wouldnt be surprised if he's ever actually penetrated her before. maybe ben thinks "sex" is making out with all your clothes on and by the power of god his wife "got" pregnant that way. I just want to know what the Shapiro's UPS guy looks like just saying.

[@spacecat6022]

Shapiro's sexuality has nothing to do with the fact that he is a bad person. Don't try to make him gay or asexual like if it made him worse than if he was a straight man. He is just extremely judgemental and annoying.

[@davidfrancis6727]

@@spacecat6022 gotta agree. If he is heavily closeted through guilt he may deserve a little pity.

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

He didn't shut him down. He talked to him. Shapiro listened. Enjoyable.

[@XGamin1]

TYT ignores the fact that this is a Sunday Special interview in order to continue “roasting” Ben.

[@boguard4594]

Yes he did because we know your boy loves to talk over people, and dismissed them when they make points he can't argue against. Seen it dozen of times. But he, nor Candice can't handel anyone who has real knowledge and debate skills. Put them up against college kids and paid fake W♠️KE, actors. And he's the Master Debater. Lol 😂. I know hundreds of people that can destroy punkass. And he be doing the same thing. Saying Nothing!!!!

[@TheJoker-nl8lk]

@@XGamin1 This entire video is just a peaceful discussion, no one shut down anyone. TYT on the other hand tries to use this to their advantage by featuring an intellectual scientist to manipulate and spread their own agenda.

[@XGamin1]

@@TheJoker-nl8lk Exactly. This was just a nice debate that Shapiro had because he is open-minded and actually wants dissent.

[@Despondencymusic]

Agreed.

[@gchukma]

When asking the question " what motivates Shapiro " making a living and not caring who you hurt in the process. Facism comes in many froms.

[@JJ-qo7th]

He's obsessed for one reason: It pays the bills. As long as Ben can keep people mad, he can keep them clicking and paying his bills.

[@dt9913]

Yup.

[@JJ-qo7th]

@Joey Havarti #whatabout

[@zm7094]

They didn't even show ben shapiro's response.... Talk about taking things out of context.

[@hobbsdhh]

These xx and xy deniers are totally mentally ill. In the 90's it was called multipersonality disorder. They've just renamed it transgender and holler a lot. Internet spreads lots of lies and idiots believe anything that's said. Hollywood and Biden likes ya'll though. Comforted now.

[@KFP_Fanboy]

then watch the full debate, you will see ben get destroyed

[@toddmorningstar4206]

What response?

[@bakedbeans5494]

@@KFP_Fanboy He didn't.

[@westjr5085]

This was a missed opportunity by Neil to explain the biology behind this

[@nazeemslamdien8854]

Cos....there's none

[@skoopdewoop]

​@@nazeemslamdien8854 there is evidence that trans people are mentally closer to the gender they claim to be than the gender they were assigned at birth

[@Anna-sd4zl]

​@@nazeemslamdien8854there's alot of published papers on on scientific journal,but since people are just tunnel visioning on not accepting them it will just be labelled as being woke or trying to propagate a propaganda.

[@hansolodolo92]

He asked the questions I been wanting somebody to ask him. Basically "what's your problem?"😂😂😂 wtf is wrong with you, and why do you care?

[@mrgreen5597]

Because you guys think Trans women in sports is OK and you think a man slapping on a dress allows him to enter the women's bathroom. Stop doing that and people will stop complaining

[@Rarediel]

@@mrgreen5597 so buck angel should be in a womans bathroom?

[@angiesmith5995]

@@mrgreen5597 Ill take things that don't happen for 1000 Alex. Damn you guys get yourselves all worked up over make believe shit, calm down.

[@mrgreen5597]

@@Rarediel no idea who that is

[@TheMisterGuy]

@@mrgreen5597 "Because you guys think Trans women in sports is OK" No, we think SCHOOL CHILDREN should just be allowed to play sports as themselves. "you think a man slapping on a dress allows him to enter the women's bathroom" No, that's a weird strawman argument your side makes.

[@nurse425]

Ben has a VERY poor track record against anyone over the age of 19, LOL!

[@planet4change]

Hmmm, his “debates” do tend to rely on the awkward emotions of youth as opposed to The stalwart intellect of well expressed seniors. I’m just saying .

[@nitroneonicman]

Tyson is definitely correct on this one, I also appreciate how respectfully he disagrees with Shapiro, the world could use more people like him.

[@creativewriter3887]

Because this had NOTHING to do with science... it has EVERYTHING to do with the Right's fascination with the LGBTQ community and how they can strip them of their rights. If the Right were REALLY concerned about science, then why aren't they talking about CLIMATE CHANGE instead of a person's SEX CHANGE??? They only use science if it serves their discriminatory purposes... you know who ELSE used "science" to back up their claims for racial superiority? The same people Shapiro cites for his own purposes--- the Nazis. That says it all. Shapiro is like a Peter Pan boy who is suffering from arrested development who has an obsession with sex to where it borders on perversion, YET he tries to make the argument that trans people are sexual predators who want to be the other sex order to stalk the same sex... did you get what he was saying??? Which kind of makes me believe that he secretly wants to be Nanny Fine with a kick ass wardrobe and actually make money OFF THAT VOICE!!

[@nitroneonicman]

@@creativewriter3887 Bro chill out, you think a nazi would invite a black man on his show in the first place? You're the one who seems to be obsessed with peoples color and putting people into categories.

[@stephentucker614]

How is he correct on this ?

[@nitroneonicman]

@@stephentucker614 Because he acknowledges both of the biological and social aspects and takes a stance that maximizes personal autonomy.

[@quinnmcdonald3763]

Neil definitely erased Ben Shapiro's argument. He saw that coming.

[@bowser8375]

It didn't erase shit though. He just said that maybe there is more research needed..... That doesn't slam dunk anything. He also can't speak factually and he kept looking around alot because he has to watch what he says.... That is why he was looking around. TyT of course will view this as a victory...... Tribalism.... meh

[@quinnmcdonald3763]

@@bowser8375 he erased his argument. Ben didn't have a point to the position he was making an argument for. He didn't even have a solid reason to pose any questions to the ones he was deflecting to. Neil's retort called him out on that and he knew it. Objective science for the win, that's all.

[@bowser8375]

@@quinnmcdonald3763 You do realize that this was a editd clip from TyT, Ben explains himself fully in the full video. also as much as I love NDT, there is no way he can agree with Ben, otherwise he will be shunned by the majority of his base. Any real scientist knows Ben is right..... Get real bruh.

[@osas2888]

It is curious that the great scientist who constantly and almost exclusively opines about science is unable to refer to science at all on this one issue

[@quinnmcdonald3763]

@@bowser8375 there is nothing to agree over. He didn't even make any point of what he was arguing. You must not understand how foolish it looked for him even after watching the whole unedited video. It made Ben look even more clueless.

[@malcolmwilkinson4449]

Please don’t ever allow me in the same room with Shapiro….

[@sydhamelin1265]

Ben keeps pretending to be into the "freedom" aspect that is truly being spoken about by Tyson, then 180s immediately and tries to get Tyson to endorse oppressive mentality. Ben is only there to put forward conservative talking points. He will be back tomorrow, talking about all the same primitive superstitions and hatred that he lives in.

[@EliasBac]

Very well put 👏

[@MidnightHabit]

Shapiro was hoping that Tyson would go along with actual SCIENCE.

[@rgeraldalexander4278]

OMG, talk about a mismatch. Brainless Ben up against one of the smartest people on the planet.

[@dylansaus]

I love it when people can openly share ideas and broadcast them for anyone who is interested to watch, listen and learn

[@Sign-oi4oc]

Learn what? Delusion from the black guy? Hell, nah.

[@xmas4203]

If you're not looking when you hear Ben Shapiro talking, it sounds like he's the voice of Jimmy from South Park.

[@SmashingBangers]

I’m just surprised Ben allowed someone to debate him outside of a college campus

[@ilya4759]

How is your self-proclaimed intellectual superiority working out for you? Did it get you anywhere?

[@metalheadedtothemax]

@@ilya4759 It worked out for Ben Shapiro just fine. He has greedy little parasites ready to eat his diarrhea up at all times.

[@ilya4759]

@@metalheadedtothemax Shapiro talks a lot of crap, especially about liberals. But listening to these two stupid childless ladies trying to sound intelligent about gender dysphoria with their broken logic, makes Shapiro sound like the Dalai Lama