One was smooth, the other won: Rachel Maddow and MSNBC panel react to the vice presidential debate

[@aviewer9516]

It is soooooooo strange to me that people are debating whether FACT CHECKING should be done or not done. What is the alternative? That we are told lies or inaccurate information???? What is the whole point then? That we vote based on things that are not even REAL???? The whole premise is bizarre to me.

[@bpxl53yewz29]

"fact checking" in debates is code word for moderators-get-in-on-the-debate-against-the-Republican-candidate. It's all one-sided. Kamala told several lies in the debate, ex. about our troops not being stationed in combat zones, but was never fact-checked. It was 3 vs 1 debate. Ridiculous.

[@natealis4]

@aviewer9516 when it's one sided and the fact checking isn't accurate. Then it's a problem.

[@gene-wh9oq]

​@@bpxl53yewz29Nope, everything that came out of Trump's mouth were nonsense at best, or just outright lies.

[@natealis4]

Also, why are the moderators always liberal. Makes it one sided. Should have 1liberal and a republican to make it fair.

[@Mightywrath1115]

@@gene-wh9oq Kamala literally lied the entire time. Yet they only "fact checked" Trump. And a few of the fact checks were incorrect. It was pathetic

[@isaiahvazquez4851]

Why did this debate seem more like a presidential debate than the actual one? 🤔

[@fallenhades3891]

Because these two didn't act like children at least, I mean they were pretty civil

[@Vic-nr2jz]

For sure. DJT could not do that

[@JudithHernandez-wx4do]

I agree

[@Rocky-w5r]

That's because they both dislike trump.

[@SYNTIFICMUSIC1]

In this case, the moderators didn't let out the disdain for Vance like they did for Trump

[@pinoykayaker]

We need a leader who will unite America, not divide it.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

Weren't you impressed with Gov Walz' ideas on leading Minnesota. Sounds like a great place to live. Keep going Gov!

[@chrisbacarella839]

Well Biden and Harris need to go trump 2024

[@vickijurden5942]

@@chrisbacarella839yes Trump should get 20 to life for his 32 federal charges

[@thailaoder]

They both are good actually better than Trump 💙💙

[@TamaraSwan-f6y]

@@thailaoderWalz was utterly terrified. JD stayed cool and never wavered

[@justlisa9220]

JD Vance 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@GerrieH-te7hw]

@@justlisa9220 Why?

[@Bluelightcheaphotel]

@@GerrieH-te7hwhe’s intelligent, articulate, capable. And he’s your VP 😂😮😂

[@wendyhay1302]

Authenticity and intelligence is a winner every time.

[@epochchange6803]

You're right. Go Walz!

[@jasona9846]

Yup that’s why Vance won 1000%

[@nicholasdeptola5639]

@@jasona9846these clowns think self proclaimed knucklehead Tim won!

[@wouterroos2359]

​@@epochchange6803 jy is dom

[@normajeansinclair6225]

@@jasona9846 there is no 1000%...only in a MAGATS world. I'll bet you graduated maybe the 5th grade?

[@MaMonteClaro]

Not fact checking the candidates' statements is where I find an issue in this debate when America needs the truth right now.

[@kingluithe1st]

They only “fact checked” JD

[@Ldardren]

Agreed

[@Free4Ever-grace]

Omg they had a QR code on the screen that you could scan with your phone to get up to date fact checks!!

[@believe53787]

@@kingluithe1stThey only fact checked one thing and that was about the Haitians being in Springfield illegally. There is currently a civil lawsuit from the Haitian families in Springfield against JD. I’m guessing they intervened there to avoid being caught in that.

[@AncsaKunos]

The moderators did some good fact-checking. If you lie more, you'll get fact-checked more. Deal with it MAGA.

[@Johnsmith46392]

Glad to see them cordial and respectful to each other before and after the debate. Refreshing.

[@jmonni8]

100% people should be focusing on this. What a debate should look like.

[@BrooklynAlien]

@@Johnsmith46392 because trump wasn't there. Tornado of negativity.

[@Bootmahoy88]

Indeed. That was very refreshing for me. I was actually dreading a Jerry Springer-esque type hullabaloo.

[@starryeyes2067]

You're idiots. Vance is a wolf in sheep skin. A TOTALLY different person from the campaign trail. IDIOTS.

[@careyharben7865]

Agree; I took note of that and felt pleased to see civilized mostly decent interactions! And yes Refreshing and much preferred to the harsh petty low vibe dynamics that have been taking over the past decade or two ?? Although Towards the end there was a shift and it seemed like Vance was glaring and tried to take a bite out of Walz ; Overall I thought they both did ok ! I find Walz down to earth , transparent and Honorable / sincere as he Speaks of past present future; and offers plans and agenda!

[@bernardbrennan1612]

Maddows take on this debate is a result of being perpetually stuck in an echo chamber. Walz was terrible for most of the night.

[@vickijurden5942]

@@bernardbrennan1612 JD Vance said that a Trump administration would defund Planned Parenthood. Vance and Trump have made it clear that they’ll attack our fundamental freedoms and rights if elected this fall. Vote accordingly on November 5.

[@chrisjenkins203]

Exactly! The only consistency she has is to be disingenuous, dishonest and deflect, deflect, deflect! Thankfully, most are smart enough to see right through it, except the special sheep like and unconditionally committed MSNBS daily viewers 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@HRMColoniallifeinsurance]

The vice presidential debates consistently exude an air of gravitas and sophistication. It is gratifying to witness a genuine political discourse during a moment of paramount significance in American history.

[@AshleyKeith-vw7ws]

Truly, these debates have been educational for the future generations of Americans, demonstrating the art of debating without resorting to personal attacks. They showcase the importance of presenting one's platform or policies to the public and serving as role models for aspiring leaders to guide the United States and the world towards a brighter future.

[@HarlowReign-r7r]

Tim Walz appears noticeably tense and restless, almost exhibiting a sense of paranoia, while Vance maintains a calm and composed demeanor. Nevertheless, my suggestion remains steadfast: Do not rely solely on leaders to address issues. Consider engaging a financial advisor. Personally, I have benefited from the expertise of Desiree Ruth Hoffman for more than four years, consistently yielding positive results. I have generated close to $3 million in profits during this time.

[@AshleyKeith-vw7ws]

Indeed, I also took note of Vance's remarkable composure amidst the evident bias in moderation, displaying utmost professionalism. Initially, when encountering the name Desiree Ruth Hoffman, I, too, held reservations, perceiving her as just another typical advisor when she was giving calls on Nvidia at the beginning of the year.

[@MelissaHobbs-qm8wi]

The intensification of the election season has undeniably captured global attention, particularly focusing on the United States. The anticipation is building for what promises to be a tumultuous ride! In light of the economic updates we receive daily, it is imperative for each of us to take responsibility for our financial matters. JD Vance undoubtedly exhibits exceptional debating skills and adeptly navigates discussions. One may ponder, why not consider individuals like him as presidential candidates?

[@HRMColoniallifeinsurance]

I just looked her up on the web …Desiree Ruth Hoffman's AUM is off the charts at the moment. She's definitely causing a stir in the financial industry.

[@abritsview]

I adore this Channel - everyone on this Panel is pure 'Gold'. I'm watching from the UK. Well done. Educated Brit.

[@amandaclark52]

lol

[@iriedance70]

Whoever appreciates this news station is completely out of the loop

[@tking1170]

MSNBC is the most dishonest, biased channel out there. You are severely misinformed if this is where you get your news.

[@abritsview]

@@iriedance70 Projection! But that's fine - 'Intellect' clearly isn't your 'strong' point. But thats ok, all are welcome.

[@abritsview]

@@amandaclark52 Your intellect rises to 3 letters 'lol', very good Ms Clark. Nice dog by the way!

[@michelebouvet8074]

I will say I am impressed that it was civil, polite and they agreed with each other. Refreshing!

[@rogerquintanilla863]

Well we will find out as to what will be unburden by the passage of time as we look in to future as the time get nearer and will look at the situation in a holistic way to study was being the burden that we had and how it will be resolve if it hasn't been resolved. I remember how Circle Back used to explain so clearly. Has anybody looked at the cases Kamala talks about when she was I California. They have not been found yet.

[@Kiki-en9vm]

You are another jd vance,spreading lies,the fact remained that some of those cases wre sealed,that is why you haven't seen them online,cos of privacy.​@rogerquintanilla863

[@marilynmanchester]

​@@rogerquintanilla863Well, your comment was a good example of word salad. Lots of words and said what? Are you a maga?

[@oldauntzibby4395]

​@@marilynmanchester the comment by rogerquintanilla seems to have been written by an AI program that was poorly programmed. It knows a lot of words but knows no substance. Hmm. Strangely like Vance.

[@derekmclean5603]

@@rogerquintanilla863what are you actually saying here? I could not make sense of a single thing of your incoherent ramble. I think you’ve just come fresh from a Trump rally.

[@BrettDavis-c5r]

Walz could’ve not shown up and this panel would have said that Walz won

[@markbergman1229]

Maybe, but the fact is he did show up and won. Speaking of winning, do you believe Trump won the 2020 election?

[@billgerhart633]

Cream pie Walz lost and everybody knows it.

[@greenmean6414]

Yeah vance was just that terrible

[@tomfields3682]

Because Vance gaslighted the whole time.

[@reichstrikesback]

@@greenmean6414 sarcasm?

[@jasperwellington11]

That handshake between Vance and Walz and their wives was nice to see. The cordiality was great.

[@Chocopie-nr8md]

Yeah. But Vance Won..the moment they asked the hong kong question, tim facial expressions are clear. But I am amazed tim did so good. But JD Won. As an Independent I choose JD Vance here. 60/40

[@Facts_and_statistics_matter]

that's what we could have if Trump would just go away

[@xavierb9061]

Theyre not fighting for anything so makes sense

[@Facts_and_statistics_matter]

@@Chocopie-nr8md how does mixing up the month you were in china mean you lost the debate? why is that something anyone should care about? Did you watch the rest of the debate? Tim had the upper hand most of the night and was on the right side of most issues

[@stuartb3609]

Vance had nice eyeliner tonight. So did his wife.😊

[@wanderernotlost2867]

if you have to complain about being fact checked than don't tell falsehoods.

[@MambaAllDay]

fake media is just mad that Vance fact checked the media.

[@bbiancini]

They don’t fact check democrat candidates

[@MeidasMJ]

CBS hid the fact that they made an agreement with TRUMP to have a NO FACT CHECK rule in place. They agreed that they would NOT fact check , and the candidates couldn’t fact check. That had a huge impact on the debate. That allowed Vance to LIE with impunity. All he did was LIE. One after another from start to finish. The debate would have been very different if Walz had been permitted to fact check him. Walz would have had Vance on his heels, backed against the wall with no escape. But CBS cheated for Trump. Instead of allowing the people to hear the truth, instead of Trump/vance lies. We were robbed of the chance to see Vance panic and squirm as his lies were crushed. Once again, we have the right wing owned media, cheating for their right wing masters, instead of doing their job. They are supposed to be a CHECK ON the government:.: not political operatives:

[@MeidasMJ]

CBS hid the fact that they made an agreement with TRUMP to have a NO FACT CHECK rule in place. They agreed that they would NOT fact check , and the candidates couldn’t fact check. That had a huge impact on the debate. That allowed Vance to LIE with impunity. All he did was LIE. One after another from start to finish. The debate would have been very different if Walz had been permitted to fact check him. Walz would have had Vance on his heels, backed against the wall with no escape. But CBS cheated for Trump. Instead of allowing the people to hear the truth, instead of Trump/vance lies. We were robbed of the chance to see Vance panic and squirm as his lies were crushed. Once again, we have the right wing owned media, cheating for their right wing masters, instead of doing their job. They are supposed to be a CHECK ON the government, not political operatives.

[@brachio1000]

You can't be that naive.

[@robynnilsson6394]

Lawrence we love you!!💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@robynnilsson6394 hope God he wins I can't afford or stand Tim Biden and Harris anymore

[@kamwickw933]

@@Jojo-x2f What are you blathering on about? Lawrence O'Donnell isn't running.

[@JLS521]

Well, the voters said otherwise.

[@sharonberry410]

You cannot negotiate with a malignant narc. They are supreme predators. They will never show mercy.

[@mcmarine777]

@@sharonberry410 right, Kamala is exactly that. Flip flop Marxist Harris

[@paigerideout6996]

Agree. Harris must go.

[@enricofermi67]

@@paigerideout6996 Agree, Harris must go to the oval office.

[@chuckery5177]

@@enricofermi67Bro I just want to be able to afford to live. I’m tired of poverty please just stop listening to billionaire media conglomerates

[@lileos2837]

not a malig narc. sociopath (APD). different, but related, disorder. the tells are all there in video interviews. not as much in a practiced debate, of course. maybe a narc too. haven't analyzed that one myself.

[@alexann665]

I overall liked the debate - it was nice to see an actual debate on ideas instead of insults. If you didn't focus on the actual content on what each were saying, then sure JD was a much smoother talker - as to be expected with his background. But if you look at the actual content, I think Walz had the better arguments. JD stuck to his usual lies, but was just better at packaging it - yet still managed to ruin the illusion when he couldn't admit that Trump lost the election and claimed that Trump "peacefully" transferred power. What was the big "lie" they caught Walz in? About what month he was in China? For me personally, I care more about when politicians lie about their own policies and opinions, which Vance did when he claimed he never supported a national abortion ban.

[@tigerlily102511]

JD has to be a smooth talker because it's easier to speak lies that way

[@markgentry6688]

And that is the biggest problem with all Republicans, smooth talkers but absolutely no platform. Although, greed does stand out with republicans!

[@mildredhodge1811]

AGREE!

[@StellaDoe]

I didn't catch Walz's lie. I only heard his explanation about his stay in China several years ago. I read somewhere that he stayed in China to learn the language and culture. Now I understand why the maga called him spy for China but there was no evidence or proof of this allegation.

[@rayannschramm9761]

Other then the untruths it wasn't to bad

[@Gruin]

"Tired of the Hate and division"

[@TreeGod.]

It’s interesting that people in the comments constantly talk about what they hate about “the other”, an then get tired of their own hate and division that they are creating for themselves. An you don’t even realize it

[@herballycorrect]

ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@surfpsych]

@@herballycorrect Yes. JD was very impressive in sanewashing his demented, crazed running mate. Even if not all lies, there was certainly fantasy/ misrepresenttion.

[@herballycorrect]

@@surfpsych CBS did not honor their agreement.

[@Mob4336]

@@herballycorrectit’s funny how they were totally wrong when they fact checked too😂

[@triciac1019]

I so love this discussion, the truths you tell and the fun you had. Truth is wonderful! I am glad you did fact checks. I loved how Walz explained all he did for Wisconsin. The housing, etc. Love the discussion about Trump saying he will cease federal land.

[@e-spy]

Sorry, Walz is from Minnesota, not Wisconsin.

[@elisabethkolling6697]

Minnesota. He forgot to mention how he let Minnapolis burn during the Floyd riots.

[@49neenee]

I didn't believe anything that came out of JD Vance's mouth.

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@49neenee oh but yet Tim waltz trip overseas which he never took but made it up himself is better when thou he was caught lying tonight

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@49neenee what u smoking Tim waltz lied about a trip being overseas which he made up himself

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

That's because you're bought and paid for

[@Jojo-x2f]

@YourChannelHere2000 ahha ur smoking

[@Jojo-x2f]

@YourChannelHere2000 how much Harris paid u to support her

[@bettyanzy77]

I just heard Joe talking about why Tim Walz had a jump in favorability after the debate..I know a part of why this happened..at least for me.. While I have been a fan of Gov. Walz since before he was the VP pick..I have never been able to speak in public..an issue for many people..I watched the Governor struggle to overcome his obvious nervousness..I related so strongly that I felt myself concentrating on slowing my breathing, in an effort to help him...He succeeded in calming himself (I probably would have had a panic attack)..His success felt like a personal success..I think many people felt the same way...

[@billyford2262]

He literally had a giant dip in favorability look it up dummy lol.

[@mildredhodge1811]

MR. TIM WALZ DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE DEBATE AND HE WAS GENUINE!!!!!!! MR. JOE WAS CORRECT WITH HIS COMMENT!

[@herballycorrect]

CBS did not honor their agreement - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@bettyanzy77]

@@herballycorrect 🤣

[@CarsonLee-ll8ph]

@@mildredhodge1811 Mr. Joe. Is that what he's called in Congo bot farms?

[@376ironman]

The fact that vance said, " I thought their would be no fact - checking and you're fact - checking me" I was done!!! This race should not be close!!!

[@spideyy37]

He fact checked them, I don’t care if you have a problem with that, there were not supposed to be any live fact checks, but he said since you’re doing that here are the facts “immigrants can apply to get legal status using the CBPOne App” if you want to classify that as legal we might as well change our complete legal immigration process

[@gangstuhpenguin3013]

You're barely literate, you shouldn't be able to vote.

[@karmstrong8143]

The race isn't closest it's actually over Trump 2024

[@dianestallings392]

@@spideyy37 the only reason there was no fact checking is because of trumps 33 plus lies and Harris 1 lie, and the his handlers cried and was going to refuse to debate. Bottom line...the right whined until CBS lamented

[@MrPowerlock]

To me jd Vance won...... To everyone except msnbc.... Jd Vance won. ​@@spideyy37

[@mr.jonesbones6760]

Rachel Maddow is to journalism as almond milk is to real milk....

[@richarddesrosiers5982]

@@mr.jonesbones6760 I hate almond milk.

[@Me97202]

In other words, healthier than real milk

[@mr.jonesbones6760]

@@Me97202 the fact that you point out "it's healthier than REAL milk," shows that you get my point she is fake ...

[@jamesbaxter9150]

Rachel Maddow does not seem to predict things very accurately. To be fair that is hard to do.

[@MariannA-u4l]

Touché Lawrence. GREAT LINE. Vance is the only VP candidate in history who doesn't know who won the last Election!

[@Qthekat1984]

The whole world knows Trump won, and they committed Treason.

[@noouhh1420]

@@MariannA-u4l “I’m friends with school shooters” “I misspoke about Hong Kong” Bunch of hypocritical liars the democrats are. Trump lies, it’s the end of the world. A democrat lies, it was a mistake.

[@nestorcalucagjr7290]

In all fairness, a large part of the Democratic Party have been acting as if Trump is still in power. (AOC (“…taking this country back) Kamala Harris (we can’t survive 4 more years of this), Walz’s Wife (Bye Bye Donald Trump), etc) when he’s been out of office for almost 4 years

[@barbra7562]

@@stjohnsriverrat7161 We all know who tried to steal it. There fixed it for you.

[@philshuster7463]

Are you kidding me. The evidence (the eye witness affidavits) and precinct videos speak volumes.

[@chrizzy.m1576]

If I lived under a rock , I would of thought these two were running for president

[@Volvary]

Apart from the fact that they were aiming at the current presidential candidates, yeah absolutely.

[@josepha.r5839]

JD probably is. Donald is bye, bye and JD is 'heir apparent'. Tim .. he's got to wait and see the next 8 years ... if s/he are elected this time around.

[@tonyrusso9956]

Absolutely

[@Bootmahoy88]

Yes, absolutely.

[@elizabethdillon4945]

Chrizzy.m- what exactly are you talking about. Quite clearly, they are the vice presidential candidates and were debating as such. The vice president is a heartbeat away from being the president and perhaps that's what you're referring to. But they were there to enhance their running mates position.

[@anthonybarcinas5229]

Vance is a contradiction. The man you saw in the debate is not the same as the one making appearances on TV and rallies. One more thing, what was the name of that billionaire that purchased his place on the Trump ticket? How much did Donald get paid to take Vance as his VP?

[@cadetpatricia3921]

Silicon Valley Tech billionaire Thiel? I don't know amount but must be bigly, hyuge.

[@cindyschneider4728]

Oh and since you asked Trump had no ground game, election donations are being used to pay his lawyers and Melania for a speech, her hairdresser and wardrobe. Elon is financing the ground campaign.

[@davidpurser4938]

Peter Thiel gave Trump $12 million to pick JD Vance.

[@oldauntzibby4395]

Exactly. Vance seems to change what he says depending on what the audience is. He doesn't seem to have any true beliefs.

[@IloveGod-q4q]

@@oldauntzibby4395 same as kamala and biden, but u didn't notice that didn't you?

[@EveHenleySpread]

This woman needs help!!

[@Mob4336]

💯

[@carmenmccauley585]

If u say "how dare they fact check" , you are saying "i want lies".

[@bigpapi42]

Or they mean why only fact check one of the 2 candidates...

[@hendrybuijs7462]

Or why where the moderators lying when they themselves said no fact checking

[@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen]

No, he's saying "don't fact check me and not fact-check Timmy tampons." If you can't see these moderators in the past dozen presidential debates are politically biased then you have the eyesight of Ray Charles. Democrats are scared to go in front of conservative-leaning moderators. Petrified!

[@Lucylou7070]

Of course! Fair is fair!

[@herballycorrect]

Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. Walz has also finally admitted to lying about his DUI. In fact, Walz lies quite a bit, but the biased media always gives him a pass.

[@ext1013]

I thought it was just me. Vance did not answer most questions.

[@Qayin]

Just you

[@trippcheek5332]

It’s not just you, I was thinking the same thing

[@dfattyadams123]

It wasn't just you. Vance dodged most questions. He just didn't have the answers, said we shouldn't trust experts and still wouldn't say that Donald Trump lost the election. Vance is a liar. Just like Donald Trump.

[@rondent2879]

Trump never answers a question either,just word salad.

[@Westcoastefx]

@@rondent2879i feel ya same with Kamala they all can't answer questions

[@Castlecrasher777]

Being an election denier alone is enough to disqualify Vance. Him repeatedly lying also didn't help his cause any.

[@mattmunger5667]

Hillary? She still thinks she won

[@Cilantrchef]

I'd disagree. His lack of experience and more importantly is dropping your pants grabbing your ankles...leaving your morality and pride at the door...for a POWER GRAB!

[@korpman]

Wait…but wasn’t Tim lying about being in China during a massacre and lying about his military rank and lying about carrying an automatic rifle in war and much more 🤡

[@korpman]

“Mis-speaks” a lot… where I’m from that’s called a liar…

[@patiencesilva]

The only people who say this are those how believe the media rather than doing your own research. It’s easy to not see the truth when you’re choosing to not look 🙈

[@llamabanduio5668]

What debate was this dude Maddow watching?

[@MinimalistExplorerEDC]

Vance lies like it’s a birth right.

[@sherrih6375]

@@MinimalistExplorerEDC Trump needs a liar to keep up with his own lying ways.

[@EdgarHernandez-dq4vj]

Cope lol

[@ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe]

Shady lies like a rug. And he’s just as low and dirty.

[@CKLoving]

He lies like the project 2025 creators want him to do.

[@Alex-tm4th]

Well if Tim doesn’t lie does that mean he really is friends with school shooters like he said last night?

[@ardenseyefineart]

JD Vance did not answer if he supports separating children from parents during a mass deportation using the military.

[@holdmybeer123]

That is not even the biggest problem with that idea. Imagine being frisked randomly in public or at work, just to find out if you're illegal with one of Trump's hit squads if Congress ever passes that. How exactly does one carry out this mass depo without sacrificing American liberties?

[@angiejorah]

Should have asked Walz why 325,000 children are missing because of Border Czar Kamala allowing it.

[@troutfisher7182]

​@@angiejorah the separations and disappearances happened beginning with Trump . Trump lost those kids.

[@angiejorah]

@@holdmybeer123 The biggest problem is the 325,000 missing children that crossed the border under Biden/Harris.

[@normajeansinclair6225]

@@holdmybeer123 Hitler did this. When he tried to send the Jews to other countries and they weren't wanted Hitler gassed them. You cannot round up 50 million immigrants and give them clothing , feed them build camps. So they will start killing them. Trump was reading how Hitler did this in Mein Kamph according to first wife Ivanna.

[@elaineponzi88]

I personally think Vance did a good job in terms of being very smooth and saying what he thought undecided voters would like to hear. But like the chameleon, he changes color to suit the environment.

[@sarov7658]

Demorats project a lot

[@VerseauT-cm6tj]

Shady Vance appeared “smooth” and calm only because he is a sociopath.

[@BrooklynLilly]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@sarov7658]

@@VerseauT-cm6tj all in ur mind?

[@mildredhodge1811]

MR. TIM WALZ WON THE GENUINE DEBATE!

[@sonyawood3984]

How these goofballs can sleep at night is beyond me.

[@elizabethparkhurst2824]

the inability to answer the question is disqualifying

[@michaelsack9981]

Then they are all unqualified.

[@enricofermi67]

@@michaelsack9981Could you please give an example for each that disqualifies them, or it enough to state a lie and offer no proof of a ridiculous statement?

[@patjohnson5586]

@@michaelsack9981 NOPE, SHADY VANCE couldn't or wouldn't answer the question - we all saw it

[@herballycorrect]

ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@herballycorrect]

@@patjohnson5586 ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@LeeHardingakaFirmament]

Whether the debate moves the needle significantly is arguable but, yes, I agree - Vance WAS slick and polished but I think “grounded, man of the people” who states fact after fact is a far, far better deal for America.

[@herballycorrect]

CBS did not honor their agreement - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@rosanneallen-hewlett9973]

Wow. Tim Walz...a REAL human as our newest VP! 👍 Some of the best people I know who are running things wouldn't be good at debate. They're busy focused elsewhere Ms. Harris already took care that . 💙💪💙👠💙🌐🙂🇺🇸

[@deadlyninjafish]

​@@herballycorrect it's wild how much time and effort you guys put into painting yourselves as victims, like you need every possible excuse for failure or stupidity. It's incredibly weird behaviour.

[@andyroubik5760]

@@herballycorrect Vance called Trump America’s Hitler! I don’t trust him. He’ll do no better than Mike Pence when push comes to shove.

[@Alverant]

@@herballycorrect CBS or ABC? Pick a lie and stick to it.

[@MaggieNip]

I'm thinking about moving to Minnesota, cause the way Tim put MN on the map today, have me thinking 😀😃😄😄😄 He proudly represented MN today. My kind of VP

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@MaggieNip can't u just make a fake trip up to Minnesota like Tim waltz caught in ur headlights over a fake trip overseas that he made up himself 😉😂🤣

[@J.P.-dd6ij]

They didn't cover it, but since he became governor, reading and math scores were 5th. Very impressive. Today they are the 17th. Is he still governor?

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@J.P.-dd6ij u smoked dope huh made up stats

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@J.P.-dd6ij made stats keep on smoking

[@J.P.-dd6ij]

@@Jojo-x2f Be honest, you couldn't compose a grammatically correct sentence if you tried past elementary standards.

[@carlfrye1566]

Walz's own family voted for Trump.

[@tltrani]

"A smooth lie is still a lie" love that! Thanks Joy.

[@IloveGod-q4q]

Its not a lie, its just his truth

[@jacquelinecallejas1390]

@@IloveGod-q4q Is that like "alternative facts?" because everybody with a brain knows "alternative facts" are LIES.

[@ericvocals9034]

Stupid

[@L0REN0R2Z0RR0]

@@IloveGod-q4q He doesn't believe his own lies, so it's not a truth. With Trump, that may be different.

[@lebohangmohapi8605]

You talk about lies and you're listening to MSNBC?

[@B.NICE302]

My conclusion is, Vance is a better debater than Donnie. But, then again, is that really saying much 🤔

[@terellcarter8780]

Yeah ie kamalas’ debate

[@daydays12]

@@terellcarter8780 What does that mean?

[@emmap188]

Bidensniffskids

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@B.NICE302 yeah it better to make up a fake trip like Tim waltz did

[@walterbo7687]

​@@Jojo-x2fyeah it's better for Vance to make up immigrants eating cats and dogs 😂😂😂😂

[@ricdcarroll4751]

Shady reminds me of an evil weasel! You can see him lie in his eyes. In short shady gives me the creeps!

[@Catturner2284]

Meee tooo 🫣

[@VerseauT-cm6tj]

They should ask the question, “which one of these men would you trust to babysit your children?”

[@Catturner2284]

@@VerseauT-cm6tjOk now that’s a good one 💯 Certainly not weasel face 😬

[@Gruin]

Vance listen to waltz's replies and then twisted the words to meet his objective. Weasel words

[@Gruin]

Vance listen to waltz's replies and then twisted the words to meet his objective. Weasel words

[@florencedavis3417]

I’m watching from New Jersey

[@leeanncarpenter2436]

If you’re honest, you shouldn’t worry about fact checking.

[@scottonandrew]

Agree, picking apart every little thing Vance said if a waste of time, when the real issue is that Vance was right back in 2016! Trump is a Fascist, he is a cancer on American politics, and he needs to be defeated. It does not matter what else this man says, he is second banana on Team Evil.

[@Jelly_Skelly]

Obviously, but we don't live in those times anymore.

[@VuNguyen-gi3mp]

@@leeanncarpenter2436 I don’t think he was worried. He schooled the moderators and you can see the embarrassment in their eyes.

[@bluerayfrequency7335]

@@leeanncarpenter2436 Unless of course you are being ridiculously manipulated by 2 nervous woman that can only read from the script, We have so much to cover! Not interested in what the debate is actually about....just stick to the surface.

[@TYGNYT]

He corrected their incorrect "fact check" it isn't about fact checking its about the moderators consistently allowing the democrats to lie while "checking" the Republicans - even though the "checks" aren't even correct.

[@AprilB-vy6uq]

So wonderful to see Rachel and the panel having a fabulous laugh at the expense of Trump and Vance.

[@mildredhodge1811]

FORMER TRUMP AND VANCE PANEL CONSISTENTLY HAVE A LAUGH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

[@herballycorrect]

What sucks about debating a moderator is they do not allow you to respond to their fact check. How fair is that?

[@herballycorrect]

CBS broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@K.L.M.Online]

Facts are simply that, facts. If someone has a problem with fact checking, perhaps they can try speaking the truth.

[@blizz2795]

@@herballycorrect 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shady Vance is only qualified to mop floors.

[@ThatGuyInVegas]

Anyone complaining about getting fact-checked is complaining they aren't being allowed to lie.

[@Jmadison224]

Only the 'fact checkers' of MSNBC lie.

[@tinynijman9077]

I like that 👍

[@delrench4785]

the point was they network had just stated they would not be fact checking it was up to opp.then fact checked first three answers from vance and none on tampon tim......truth matters and msnbc and dems aint that ................Trump by 100 elec votes nov.5th..........still listening to these same talking heads who have been bamboozling you fools for 9 years...same idiots who set and bragged about joe winning till the truth set in.......set and laugh tomorrow the reality vance stomped walz sets in.................funny crap

[@j.b.macadam6516]

Agreed! Liars don't like being corrected!

[@Silverblood13]

​@CK-iw5bn people think illegals are immigrants. They are called illegal aliens. We don't know who they are, and technically on paper, they don't exist. I'm surprised other countries haven't sent military through our southern border or maybe they already have.

[@spider-man910]

yeah Tampon triumped ....edgy , unnerving , told lies and the FCs looked the other way ...

[@Erin-ir4hy]

Vance and Walz performed exactly as we expected for them to based on how we have seen them perform since the campaign started. Vance is a politician. Walz is a coach/educator. They were civil towards each other and even agreed on a few things. The "win" was the reason Mike Pence was not at the debate, and whether or not Vance would be a firewall to prevent another Jan 6th.

[@philshuster7463]

Excuse me, where have you been the past eight years while Walz has been the con politician he is as a two term Governor.

[@lizporto4860]

He's not a con Vance is​@@philshuster7463

[@johnmcevoy3598]

"If you're going to point out my lies, fewer people will believe them. Unfair!"

[@Erin-ir4hy]

@@philshuster7463 Observing how the people of the state of MN voted him governor

[@giovanni-ed7zq]

@@philshuster7463 walz talks like a normal person. vance talks like a used car salesman. its why walz appeals to regular people cuz he talks in simple terms and doesnt go around in circles to deflect on stuff he doesnt want to answer.

[@KatrinaRaven]

Vance is good political speaker but he is a bad guy who morphs allegiance to whoever his running mate tells him to.

[@treybradberry5415]

lol insert Kamala and woman in that sentence iyw 😂

[@treybradberry5415]

Except for the “good political speaker” bit..

[@Braden84]

@@KatrinaRaven maybe he just loves the country

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

You think he has no spine... Kamala is worse. She sucker her way to the top

[@daydays12]

@@treybradberry5415 What? Your reply is incomprehensible.

[@Nonbleachedblonde-dv3jk]

“Smooth lies are still lies” joy that’s right

[@herballycorrect]

Walz lied about his military record, his China connection, his DUI and so much more!

[@herballycorrect]

ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@jondaniel6948]

News flash, ALL politicians lie.

[@joannemoser3443]

@@herballycorrectIn your dreams.

[@bigpapi42]

​@joannemoser3443 so I guess dreams do come true

[@bellaquins2139]

When is Rachel Maddow going to retire? Anyone know?

[@gunselshaly537]

Common sense is not accepting a job that was vacated after the boss tried to have the former guy killed.

[@mannyharris524]

😢😢😮😅😅😅😅

[@SunnySydeRamsay]

Only tried to have him killed because he didn't agree with him and override the Constitution for him. JD Vance publicly supports the lie.

[@henrywheeler467]

He never told the truth about anything

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

You can't really be this brainwashed, can you?

[@rachaelbean1439]

he's sold his soul so he can president when Trump dies.

[@lnstarr]

Does Vance understand what his possible position ACTUALLY does?? The VP doesn't have the authority to do the vast majority of things he claimed VP Harris didn't do! Learn the functions of the JOB, JD.

[@zachary2727]

yes it does. you're wrong about everything

[@gal2727]

Well the VP does have control over the border and look how that has gone. It’s astounding how many excuses you will make for these incompetent liars! Why just why?

[@Curiousinternetperaon]

@@zachary2727 I love the MAGATs from idiocracy knowing only two phrases "you're wrong" (with no explanation cause that's the limit of their brain) and "half my teeth are falling off". At least one of them is true though.

[@IloveGod-q4q]

She was responsible for border, everyone agree its in crisis, plus this female presenter in the middle, talks how democrat candidate did so good, but blinks like crazy, what i learned is person who blinks a lot obviously consciously lie, proved claim in my own skin when trusted person who was blinking like that and proved i should have trusted.

[@brachio1000]

She's trying hard to pretend she had no association with Biden.

[@gibbyandrae]

A smooth lie is still a lie...

[@CormacNJ]

Well stated.

[@leongardner710]

Exactly 💯 💯 💯

[@herballycorrect]

ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@CormacNJ]

@@herballycorrect I don't agree. Who won the election in 2020? Vance didn't answer. Too funny 😂

[@lastcallbartendingla8849]

These people are absolutely disgusting & should be ashamed of themselves.

[@epi965]

JD Vance was incredibly smooth talking but did not say one memorable thing

[@robbannstrom]

Style over substance.

[@joe_tiger]

Everyone will remember that JD Vance won, by miles.

[@robbannstrom]

@@joe_tiger History will say otherwise.

[@ernestclary6035]

He did say - trump doesn’t listen to professionals- that was most telling.

[@richardstewart6900]

"He said words but didn't answer!" Classic! That perfectly describes not just Vance but Trump and most of their supporters I've seen so far.

[@marclewis1199]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you haven’t heard word salad harris answer questions have you?

[@matthewn1805]

Trump never answers questions, just rambles about sharks, batteries and fictional characters as he never understands the questions.

[@JuanCJaimeDiaz]

@@matthewn1805 please share the mushrooms you are ingesting. you are tripping.

[@gigibau]

​@@marclewis1199 Trump never answers questions either, like "childcare is childcare" 😂😂😂😂. So what are you talking about? Sit down

[@Girlonwheels254]

That makes the two of them Or three plus 3 Kamala Harris

[@cherpiette4216]

LOL. JD Vance complaining about them fact-checking him.

[@emilyhutchens3682]

If they told them they wouldn't fact check in real time, I think it's fair to comment on that. The moderators tried to fact check him but were wrong.

[@PeanutButterJelly-bn9gu]

Lol they couldn't handle it and cut his mic when he fact checked them fact checkers.

[@herballycorrect]

ABC lied and I guess you are okay with that?

[@herballycorrect]

ABC broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@herballycorrect]

@@emilyhutchens3682 And ABC did not keep to the terms that were agreed upon for the debate. Incredibly dishonest.

[@jtl-en4yx]

Literally everyone including every other democrat anchor says the Vance won, but sure Rachel, your guy won despite what everyone else says!

[@lovingoldlady4872]

Winning in the case of a debate is , of course, subjective. Like those that say Vance “won”, I agree that he was smooth, polished and a slick performer. If truth and honesty can be eliminated from a “quality” debate as important factors, Vance “won” hands down. However, a lie is a lie is a lie, even when wrapped in shiny , even slimy, delivery. That’s why Walz “won”. If you want a polished performance, go to the theatre, not a Vice Presidential debate.

[@jtl-en4yx]

@@lovingoldlady4872 A lie is a lie, is a lie, unless walz tells it, then he's just a "knucklehead"!

[@Mob4336]

@@lovingoldlady4872 sounds like you missed The Wenz liesss and the misleading / exaggerations.

[@jeremysmith9694]

He clearly won. There's no question. These people lost all credibility by saying the exact opposite. Completely ridiculous

[@seanpritchett-b3f]

They had a body language expert on Dr. Phil breaks it down beautifully.

[@robertkukla591]

"You're not allowed to call out my lies!"

[@BrooklynLilly]

😂

[@mcmarine777]

TDS

[@jondaniel6948]

I think the issue is he was being called out for his lies and his opponent was not.

[@gavinbuck8130]

@@mcmarine777 Ooo I love The Daily Show, also, this refers to JD Vance, sooo will just be adding that to everyone in your team if someone speaks negatively about them? JDVDS?

[@persico9017]

trump 2.0 😉

[@kadogo7712]

Walz won huge. Vance couldn't answer any question without lies and bwing evasive . 12:53

[@gregharrison2951]

Walz got caught in a lie and admitted to it, plus the moderators pressed him on not answering questions. 😒 Delusional and intellectually dishonest take.

[@lidopina4334]

@@gregharrison2951 Cry harder!

[@lidopina4334]

@TheLawrenceReport-v8m Need more tissues?

[@Th34rti5t]

@@gregharrison2951lmao look at the comment below u bro. The moment these people get any push backs they become a literal child

[@gregharrison2951]

@Th34rti5t Anyone with a shred of intellect can see Walz lost the one-sided debate. Oh, and don't forget he said he was "friends with school shooters". 🙄

[@escarelet]

Vance is smooth like someone trying to talk you out of withdrawing your investment from a pyramid scheme.

[@denisedean2446]

He is an attorney

[@misamasa1]

I thought he was supposed to be wierd

[@johnfetter]

only a dem o cultist would word salad it like that.

[@RepublicSaversSince1791]

@@escarelet Walz was like a Biden on stage.

[@taxpayersownd.chotel2403]

@@denisedean2446 A lawyer who seemed to not practice law. Is there some meat on that bone because I could not find any.

[@ms.rickie]

Vance was the winner, hands-down in my opinion

[@chocffee2863]

@ms.rickie On public-speaking and poise, yes Vance won. That's expected from a Yale graduate of Law. But in answering the questions truthfully and consistent with the policies his team is running on, Walz definitely won!

[@juneramirez8580]

Republicans say one thing then swear they NEVER SAID THAT!

[@kepcar]

Denial and/or whataboutism is how a delusion is maintained

[@Kiki-en9vm]

They are kings of liars,I mean republicans and their Fuhrer trump.

[@floatingplanet]

just like Kamala flip flopping her stances in a desperate attempt to gain voters.

[@joshuaerickson6670]

Only republicans do this? Really? Do you know who is running for president on the Dem side?

[@natealis4]

@juneramirez8580 ya like come to the border when trying to win an election, and as soon as you do a year later, say don't come. Hypocrisy is real

[@CarlAquaForce]

The gaslighting never ends.

[@jtl-en4yx]

Not on MSNBC!

[@CarlAquaForce]

@@jtl-en4yx I hope you're being sarcastic.

[@Mob4336]

I hope too

[@hammerbro2125]

Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Big laughs)

[@tink1964]

You guys are my favorite group for analyzing what overall happened

[@stevejette2329]

tink - You like them even better than Larry, Curly and Moe over on FOX ?

[@blizz2795]

@@stevejette2329 Everyone is better than anyone on Fox ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL!

[@taylorspastpresent1014]

I would like them too if I was delusional but I had to take the red pill and wake up

[@stevejette2329]

@@taylorspastpresent1014 Maybe time to quit the pills ?

[@bellaquins2139]

Are you ok?

[@LFGCUTIE]

One bad moment for Tim Walz? What are you people smoking? JD Vance is a class-act. You can pick up a few pointers from him!!

[@gavinbuck8130]

Best way to avoid being fact checked, state facts not lies.

[@fernandovriese6409]

Stating facts doesn’t mean you will avoid being fact checked.

[@brachio1000]

How quaint.

[@gavinbuck8130]

@@fernandovriese6409 If those asking the questions are in possession of the facts then at the point of asking yes, there's no need to vocally fact check. Once a question has been answered and not fact checked vocally then the viewers may want to fact check, but that's not what this is about.

[@ericvocals9034]

All democrats do is lie then accuse Republicans of lying.

[@Alex-tm4th]

Is that why they cut his mic when they wrongfully fact checked him and he brought evidence to prove them wrong?

[@CKLoving]

Vance is such a Pinocchio! Blaming Kamala for everything then turn around and tried to imitate her by talking about his dear mother and meemaw.

[@RealJackHQ]

Sebastian Maniscalco would have a field day with JD calling his Grandma “meemaw.” 😂😂

[@dremm7174]

Right because Walz isn’t blaming Trump for everything. It’s hilarious how bias people are and don’t realize. Personally I don’t care for either one. Just love the hypocrisy

[@CarsonLee-ll8ph]

@@RealJackHQ So this is obviously the first time you've heard him speak.

[@brettfine3444]

Sure shady was smooth at lying. I have to give him that.

[@cleophusfowler]

MSNBC watched a different debate. It's like a comedy show. Vance wiped the floor with Walz. MSNBC thinks Walz won. 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ChandraMarley-ze4nq]

They know Walz lost but truth is not important to them

[@stephenm8898]

They're literally the only channel that are saying this lol they know their viewers are morons

[@amelaine82]

JD lost me at the first question when he didn’t answer the question and started talking about himself. I don’t care who he is.

[@Angela-xz6mn]

We should care who these people are

[@Tron1400]

Kamala does the same thing thoguh

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

And haven't we heard enough about his "I was born a poor white child" bio already? He lost any sympathy for a rough beginning by spending his adult years sucking up to horrible people and becoming the kind of person who does not care a whit about his poor relatives.

[@dohseyes5744]

Read P25 and you’ll know who they are. The dark forces.

[@Jrben13]

That’s wild that Harris did that her whole debate. Nobody cares who she is, it’s what’s she’s done the last three and a half years.

[@sanflo2810]

It was a great debate. Very cordial. Vance had the hardest job to defend criminal Drumpf. Walz was excellent. Vote Harris / Walz 💙💙👏🏽

[@catsrus2890]

@@sanflo2810 Walz was the shell shocked... And completely lost. I don't know what you were watching. Everyone on the Internet is saying that Vance won.

[@bigH44]

YOUR BRAINWASHED

[@don9598]

Voting for Trump the only choice to get our country back on track

[@mildredhodge1811]

GOD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SOLVE AMERICA'S PROBLEMS !!!!!!!

[@RonnieMorris-qx7pq]

@@catsrus2890 HOW TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY FROM A DICTATOR TRUMP. VOTE= VOTE: VOTE VOTE AS YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES, SEND THE MESSAGE OUT TO ALL, FAMILY AND FRIENDS, TO STOP THIS DICTATOR, FROM ENTER OUR WHITE HOUSE, BECAUSE IF HE GET BACK IN, HE WILL DESTORY ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE BUILD. HE MUST BE STOP, AT ALL COST, OUR TIME IS SHORT, SO PLEASE SEND OUT THE MESSAGE, LETS FIGHT.👉💥 I,M NOT A BOT FROM RUSSA, CHINA, IRAN, I,M FROM THE GREAT STATE OF COLORADO.👈💥

[@anthonygriffin1958]

I have to admit it was quite a civil vice-presidential debate in New York City.

[@MrTom-kl7hy]

The city Dumps current wife and youngest son chose to live in.

[@Man.from.the.90sgeneration]

Agree

[@nr14989]

For sure it was civil until the moderator Margaret sneak a fact check and failed miserably

[@anthonygriffin1958]

@@MrTom-kl7hy I have reason to believe that you make a strong point regarding that matter on the internet.

[@anthonygriffin1958]

@@Man.from.the.90sgeneration there's no denying that fact regarding the world of politics in the country.

[@GM-um8rh]

Regardless of everyone's opinion about the debaters... majority of Americans already have their minds made up. The debate was just that... debate! It doesn't take a genius to know who's right and fit to lead this country. Harris/Walz!

[@AprilB-vy6uq]

Shady Vance and cult leaders have 3 things in common. They are smooth, have a certain charisma and lie through their teeth.

[@rayssis2]

AMEN

[@Lucylou7070]

We've been told for months that he was thought he was rough, rude, and evil. He was careful with his presentation last night when he answered the questions truthfully abut now he's smooth, liar and charismatic. Geez, time to stop the nonsense.

[@herballycorrect]

Walz lied about his military record and his China connection. Walz has also finally admitted to lying about his DUI. In fact, Walz lies quite a bit, but the biased media always gives him a pass.

[@herballycorrect]

CBS broke their promise and fact checked JD - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@herballycorrect]

What sucks about debating a moderator is they do not allow you to respond to their fact check. How fair is that?

[@soriyazz]

He's a dangerous man. Vance

[@sarov7658]

Yup Tim is

[@stylemeister1]

@@soriyazz what’s dangerous is voting for the same 💩 we already have.

[@margomargao2004]

@@sarov7658 Poor Vance, searching for the missing pet cats and dogs. Poor delusional Dumpty looking for the wall he never built🤣🤣🤣

[@soriyazz]

@@margomargao2004 😂😂😂😂

[@soriyazz]

@@sarov7658 the CULT is real. Trump said he likes the poorly uneducated 😂😂😂 would that be you

[@visnuexe]

Waltz presented well on substance without losing himself, his integrity too deeply in refuting the lies that spooled out of Vance's answers.

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

You seem like the type of person to do whatever the government tells you

[@badbob6689]

Like when he was in Timmons square?

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

@YourChannelHere2000 Am I wrong?

[@walterbo7687]

​@@ziggyjohnston5302you seem like the type of person that declares himself a sovereign citizen. Am I wrong?

[@walterbo7687]

​@@ziggyjohnston5302 you seem the type of person that's driving on the left side of the road in the USA and on the right side in the UK

[@Chrisp969]

It's funny watching them try and Dem-wash it. "JD Vance sure he's a greater debater, but inside my head Waltz won." 😀😀😁😁😂😂🤣🤣😄😄😅😅😄😄

[@Mob4336]

@@Chrisp969 it unbelievable isn’t it. Just goes to show what this network is ALL About

[@AndrewWernick]

You guys are great. Thanks for your clarifications. Cheers.

[@donr5593]

CBS lied no fact checking they fact checked J..D.

[@tisha954]

Walz won but i actually liked this debate. No one was ripping each other to shreds, no drama, no eating of cats and dogs, no Trump. Couldnt asked for better.

[@robertbarnes9005]

Hahahahaha. Walz won? Did you watch the debate drunk?

[@MishaShvartsman]

Walz did not win, you have issues with eating stupid propaganda. Think for yourself

[@scrubled6854]

I'm voting for harris walz but no walz was way too nice he didn't win. Vance did all the hard work for him and gave him so much material leading up to this and walz was up there trying to be his bestie. He missed, many talking points I'm so disappointed.

[@johnbull1568]

So you want the status quo of career politicians pretending to oppose each other while they feast on our remains? You're as much of a problem as they are.

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@tisha954 Tim waltz was a deer in headlights over a trip to overseas that he made up himself what u smoking

[@twhite8308]

💚We🌏are💚not🌏going💚back🌏

[@tinynijman9077]

👍💚

[@jowbloe4700]

Trump 2024 🇺🇸

[@kristinguelmine6565]

We were better before. You probably didn't live here then

[@jannichi6431]

Forgetful brains. Simple brains. Captured 'conservatives'. Better Like Vance, he may be your guy after coward DonOld chooses to bail IF elected.

[@RepublicSaversSince1791]

@twhite8308 Think about how violent democrats will be after the election. Alot will be ended during their riots.

[@carlettabenjamin9652]

Walz won, Vance could not say that Trump lost the election and he would not say that he would certify this election.

[@susanhollywood1411]

You are clueless if you think Walz won this debate

[@Tokimonster916]

100% gaslighting 😂😂

[@SBayrd]

It's all the bots in the comment section for me. NameNameNumber seems to be a popular username layout.

[@alliepetty1005]

When you have a documented liar participating in an event, in-the-moment fact-checking should be mandatory.

[@stevensko9153]

Walz is a liar

[@cwtckness]

Steven ski,, you are so lost,, god bless you

[@cwtckness]

Steven sko

[@TheJaybrone]

Yeah it's to bad the media will never fact check the lies from the left. Walz was lying left and right and Vance was calling him on it.

[@stevensko9153]

@@alliepetty1005 maddow is a liar.

[@nerdguru86]

JD Vance lied a lot during the debate...just because you know how to speak, doesn't mean you care about people... Doesn't mean you tell the truth. He also ducked and dodged questions as well

[@mariegotti6492]

Walz lies every time he opens his mouth.

[@mildredhodge1811]

MR. WALZ WON THE GENUINE DEBATE!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@paleocon777]

What did he lie about?

[@paleocon777]

@@mildredhodge1811🐑 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rommerocampo]

Walz is very much uncomfortable... Clear winner is vence he so relax...

[@annebiggins7180]

Vance was too polite or some might say phony! Walz was anxious and shaky but became stronger the last 30 minutes! Tim earned his pizza 🍕 tonight!

[@laseourable]

I was worried at first, seeing that Walz seemed nervous. Then it became clear to me, he actually came across more genuine. Vance -polished and tricky. Side stepping issues.

[@nataliemullings6908]

​@JimmiZeroAre you talking about your father. He needs to stop telling you his secrets.

[@daydays12]

@JimmiZero If you use ignorant insults like that it is obviously not possible to take you seriously. Are you like this with everyone?

[@SIERRATREES]

@@laseourable he did. played to his strengths.

[@rogerquintanilla863]

Tampon did okay with the boys. They will keep on working on the children if they make alive.

[@niwempleh]

sure wish we watched the same debate to have the same conclusions! JD Vance was by far on point and in control while Walz flustered and panicked his way through!

[@terbhang]

A smooth lie is still a lie. Thank you, Joy Reid. Exactly.

[@angiejorah]

Joy is smooth.

[@expletivedeleted]

Joy Reid, the single most racist human being there ever has been.

[@Spatgoober]

What did he lie about?

[@user-zk1tb1yx2e]

@@angiejorah Especially her bald head

[@natealis4]

@terbhang did you just use joy Reid to prove a point!? Wow- you need to put down the msnbc

[@John-zn4lp]

Walz was a little stiff overall and his facial expressions could have been more relaxed, but once he got his footing, I think he did well against Vance.

[@billbill5326]

I live in Minnesota. Governor Walz is not a smooth talking car salesman, but he is a down to earth person and speaks the truth. I will take his honesty and integrity any day.

[@seancunningham1244]

​@@billbill5326hahahahahha walz lied about being in china tonight in a live debate. Just like his time in war, and IVF, and being a head coach. He lies, and embellishes

[@rainydaysunnylife5718]

Walz facial expressions and his body language overall is just his style. He is who he is. He's a very passionate and expressive person.

[@teenmomAT14toRN]

When someone is lying it really makes you 🤯​@@rainydaysunnylife5718

[@don9598]

Trump/Vance 2024

[@Amarejgaming118]

You guys watched a different debate, walz did not do well on the other hand Vance seemed more presidential. Your bias is what is killing America

[@mumsyweber161]

If he didn't lie in the 1st place, fact-checking would not have been an issue.

[@CaptainSleep]

Yeah, couldn’t keep up with Walz’s lies. Good he got called out.. that was a massacre RIP Walz

[@scottmcaninch6255]

​@@CaptainSleepanother maga looser🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@herballycorrect]

CBS did not honor their agreement - no surprise there. So, it was 3 against 1 as usual, and JD still mopped the floor with Walz big time!

[@DaBlackX]

Now....over here in reality Shady Vance got stomped, because he was too stupid to do anything other than lie.

[@blizz2795]

@@herballycorrect Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

[@Trolling4Strange]

A debate between 2 mid westerners....the only thing missing was "ope, I'm sorry" a bunch. Civil, nice, agreeance, respectful......wow what a breath of fresh air.

[@noouhh1420]

@@Trolling4Strange “I’m friends with school shooters” “I misspoke about Hong Kong” Bunch of hypocritical liars the democrats are. Trump lies, it’s the end of the world. A democrat lies, it was a mistake.

[@JDR8]

Vance was nice because he was dealing with a guy with early onset dementia. Just like Trump in the Biden debate.

[@catherinekalden-blum3164]

As usual, Joy you looked amazing tonight 😊❤

[@p.siadoreyou9050]

😂😂😂get your eyes checked

[@dianavaldez3371]

I see she lost her Trump wig 🤣🤣🤣

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

Get your eyes checked

[@joe_tiger]

If she wore a turtleneck she would resemble a life-size stick of roll-on deodorant.

[@mildredhodge1811]

MRS. JOY LOOKED AMAZING AS USUAL AND NO NEED TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO SEE AN OPHTHALMOLOGIST!!!!!!!

[@kevintyler7401]

Rachel Maddow must be high if she thinks Ballz won!

[@rochesterpippinsocks52]

@@kevintyler7401 Walz won.

[@kevintyler7401]

@@rochesterpippinsocks52 so you are high too! Got it!

[@js27-a5t]

The problem is, some undecided voters are likely not that educated on the issues and they probably won't be able to tell that Vance was lying so much.

[@h-bombg3809]

What did he lie about?

[@angelamarie4137]

I'm from Ohio, and I'm still disgusted that he was ever voted into office. He's a real slick one.

[@mattbelcher5502]

@@h-bombg3809Trumps role in the ACA, his own stance on abortion, and when he said most of our solar panels come from China which is not true. Should I keep going?

[@josepha.r5839]

Shhh! That's the dark secret!

[@MrCplChicken]

Like yourself?

[@victoriah.2083]

JD= "Snake Oil" salesman. 😬

[@joe_tiger]

JD = Vice President on January 20, 2025

[@DK101GT]

Tim tampon salesman

[@TaylorSmith-nm6em]

You're soft like the party you represent.

[@lorilemonade6649]

Walz missed the opportunity to call Vance out on "Childless cat ladies", he failed to mention Trump's deranged "Eating the cats and dogs" assertion, and several times he allowed Vance to set the false narrative that Kamala has done nothing for the past 3 years, when he should have countered with Trump's dismal record as president for 4 years. 😐

[@ritatharp5238]

I know, I was wondering why they didn't ask more about Governor Walz's high truancy rate and lowest test scores in Minnesota?!?!?!

[@Garethw710]

Cats dogs and ducks are factually being caught and eaten by immigrants as they can’t afford the meat prices in the grocery stores . There was videos going viral . It’s not the most far fetched thing to think about . The question that should be debated is why do we have so many people legal and illegal who are going to such desperate measures to get food.

[@jamesdurden-fl6bk]

A debate isn’t just about throwing insults and talking about complete bs that is completely irrelevant. I guess you all are just so used to it since we’ve been seeing Donald Duck 🦆 do it for so long.

[@theinvisibleguests]

@@Garethw710it’s a fact that you’re full of crap comrade

[@callnight1441]

​@Garethw710 the story was based on a claimed incident of a haitian immigrant eating someones pet in springfield. The case was investigated by the police and found to be false. Its just a fear mongering tactic. Haitians dont even fall under the "illiegal immigrabts at the border crossing"

[@ashblond6]

beforei i even watch this i am betting it was jd that was smooth and walz won in all your crazy heads but lets see if you all prove me wrong because vance won this debate without a quiestion even the haters have said this

[@elgatoblue17]

Don’t forget: “Jan 6 was not a Facebook ad.” ~ Tim Walz. It was pure gold.

[@ziggyjohnston5302]

Don't forget: "Tim Walz put tampons in the boys bathroom." ~ Tim Walz. It was pure gold.

[@Jojo-x2f]

@@elgatoblue17 was also pure gold about Tim waltz fake trip overseas that he made up about himself

[@johnfetter]

pure dem o cult fail fantasy

[@joshuabean9409]

It wasn't comparable to pearl harbor, and wasn't an insurrection either. Jan 6 is a straw they keep grasping at.

[@DeeCristal]

@@Jojo-x2fAlso Pure Gold! JD Vance unwillingness to admit Trump lost the election to Biden. I’m sure that will be a campaign ad! 😮