Neil Warnock Blames Linesman For Cardiff’s Relegation

[@GibsonHReviews]

As a Chelsea fan, I remember this game and I felt super bad because it clearly should've been ruled off.

[@casualmobs12338]

Yea

[@tonypaul3205]

Get a life😂😂😂.

[@JM91x]

As a Chelsea fan I couldn’t care less.

[@paulw6183]

Fuck off mate, warnocks name is mud at chelsea and Cardiff can rot in the championship or lower preferably. I've never felt bad about a chelsea goal

[@user.10.]

​​@miniboots6331Yeah. Cause a cup final is "nothing", lmao. You wanna see the actual jokers of London? Just look up north and you'll find two clubs there that have had multiple seasons of nothing. If you're gonna troll, at least try to do a decent job. Clown.

[@mahfuzali643]

It was exactly this match that incited serious talks over VAR, and it is exactly this match that is cited when anyone argues against VAR. That, and the Frank Lampard ghost goal. For better or for worse, this was a historic match for English football.

[@FeathersMcGrawx]

Why talk shit? VAR was already in place in numerous leagues and was to be implemented the next season hahah lampards ghost goal 9 years earlier had fuck all to do with it

[@hastyswept5486]

@@FeathersMcGrawxabsolutely did have lots to do with it you gorm don’t speak on things you know little about, the Lampard ghost goal made the entire country want VAR do you not remember everyone referring to the tennis out in challenge system for months asking for goal line technology? And for video review like in rugby?

[@mahfuzali643]

@@hastyswept5486 😭😭😭 amazing reply

[@TheCofarrell]

@@hastyswept5486”don’t speak on things you know nothing about” is a hilarious thing to say before saying something that’s wrong. The Lampard ghost goal brought about Goal Line Technology not VAR. Two completely separate things.

[@tareqalsalem4768]

​@@FeathersMcGrawxjust because you're selectively stupid doesn't mean you have to spread your brain worms all over the comment section

[@NextYen69]

I’m a Cardiff fan and that day truly pissed me off

[@OG_Clarkey]

It angers me still to this day cause we haven’t recovered from that relegation

[@felixsoheili1154]

As a Brighton fan thank god for the call. We were saved from the drop. It's like polar opposite worlds now.

[@OG_Clarkey]

@@felixsoheili1154 spot on man, we went down you stayed up and look at you now fair play

[@NextYen69]

@@OG_Clarkey what stand do you sit

[@NextYen69]

@@OG_Clarkey I sit in canton

[@rayenkhelifi9749]

Yet some people want to bin VAR 🤦‍♂️ the technology was never the problem the referees have always been the problem.

[@Ross-t2f]

They would make the same mistake with VAR

[@toastedgrapes7961]

@@Ross-t2fThey wouldn’t lmaoo. Don’t let one or two high-profile VAR mistakes ruin its entire reputation when it’s done far more good.

[@mi-di2jy]

If you’ve ever been to a game,you should know how shit var is

[@karmaascendant3936]

@@mi-di2jydoesn’t matter if it feels slow in the ground. They should have the automated offsides no matter what. They happen faster but the PL clubs voted against it for some reason

[@MrBluebirds22]

@@toastedgrapes7961var is awful But they do get offsides right

[@Waaz101]

That fuckin askapella😂

[@sphanxele5034]

😂

[@nevermind3488]

He didn't force the ref not to flag him

[@thebagelsproductions]

I know the one - Spanish bloke, sings unaccompanied - accapella - him 😂

[@harrysimpson8706]

If they had stayed up in 2019, it’d have been Brighton who went down. 5 years later and look how much has changed! Fine details.

[@rowles13]

As a Cardiff fan we all love Warnock.great manager

[@billy56733]

Same

[@dansomething7742]

I was at this match. The referring was actually properly disgraceful, 2 penalties turned down, an offside equalizer and a clear red card that was waved away. The Telegraph were making jokes about it. It was the last year before they brought on VAR and we'd have 100% stayed up if they had brought it in earlier

[@the-blue-barron2791]

no, you wouldn't have. You're ignoring all decisions that went you're way

[@dansomething7742]

@the-blue-barron2791 the old "it all evens out" myth 🙄. Sometimes, it doesn't even out. Like with us that season

[@the-blue-barron2791]

@@dansomething7742 If Cardiff had won that game, they have finished on equal points with Brighton, who finished 17th but with a worse goal difference. They have still been relegated.

[@dansomething7742]

@the-blue-barron2791 except after the late equalizer heads dropped across the stadium and on the pitch and Chelsea scored a 90+ minute equalizer (in between these goals Zohore went one on one with the keeper and Rudiger brought him down from behind and wasn't sent off). If the referee had been competent/impartial, Cardiff would have won this game and stayed up. And that's before you even get into all the matches with similar refereeing performances

[@dansomething7742]

@the-blue-barron2791 if you don't know what your talking about then that's fine, but don't feel like you have to argue with people who do

[@husseinaboul-ela2050]

As a Chelsea fan, all respect to Cardiff. It was a clear offside

[@BorceTrajkovski-u4r]

It's not var It's the incompetent no accountability thats wrong with the game

[@georgetolofari5246]

Like if a 70plus year old manager can see it you could thing the guy who’s whole job I watch that line would see it aswell

[@AdamLikesVids]

I think there’s a lot more accountability since VAR though. Howard Webbs on TV going through examples whenever they make a big fuck up. In the past everything was swept under the carpet. Still a long way to go before they’re at the level they need to be though.

[@MyCold1]

Its incompetent players and managers that are the reason teams get beat

[@wobkgs]

Sat on a bench from 50 yards away through a crowd of players? Not likely. We all could see it in slow motion.@@georgetolofari5246

[@halo091]

Its fixing, call it what it is. Nothing to do with "mistakes". Dp tou really think they would let Cardiff beat chelasea. Watched the game too

[@itsmejackyg7981]

Cardiff fan here. Worst match of my life. Was sitting in the pub beginning to believe we might actually stay up being 1-0 up in this game. Then the ‘goal’ happened. I have never felt so robbed and hurt in my life from football. So clearly offside. I walked home and cried which was a first for me. We went on to lose the game 2-1, with another awful decision happening minutes later when a red card should’ve been given. We were relegated by 2 points I believe. Since then we have not returned to the Premier League. Painful moment, and forever changed my feelings on football. Love turned to like

[@jakewaterfall5091]

Said it many times now, we employ foreign players because they’re some of the best footballers in the world to come and play in England, why aren’t we employing foreign referees when there won’t be any bias, and they’re 10x better. We’re the best league in the world and we are constantly dragged down by these fraudulent officials. It’s embarrassing.

[@HidingZebraTube]

because the game would be even more soft than what it is now. you'll lose the feeling of 'football from different countries' watching a bundesliga game will be no different to watching a premier league game.

[@Spectrescup]

​@HidingZebraTube I think that's a good point actually. As you say, football is so homogenised now it'd be a shame to lose one of the few points of difference.

[@TheMightofDab]

If anyone with any actual power in the game dares to suggest that, they get threatened by PGMOL

[@MyCold1]

Who? Foreign refs are worse

[@simonpeyton-n3h]

10 times better?where did u pluck that from?have a done a lengthy study of the standard of foreign refs have you,i think youll find the same problems in every league on earth from sunday league under 5s right to the top in every country

[@swade1886]

Neil we just call him Dave

[@thepapadanshow1407]

He probably did see it, but all officials are owned by the top 6 cartel, fuck all anyone else can do about it 🤷‍♂️

[@The_Bit_Player]

We need a Video Assistant Ref for these situations.

[@danielfrancis3660]

It’s not down to one game. It’s down to 40 games where the refs and assistants get things right and wrong and sometimes in Neil Warnocks favour.

[@gumpastee]

Exactly

[@guyspooner4580]

Worth pointing out

[@Wickerrman]

You say that, but I bet if you counted everything together, more likely went against them than for them. The problem is that we all assume these things and no one actually tallies them up to find out.

[@danielfrancis3660]

@@Wickerrman I hear you but consider this, if the decisions went against you but you won the game would you complain about the officials?

[@scatmann5839]

​@@danielfrancis3660 Irrelevant whataboutism.

[@FOOTBALLisKNOWLEDGE]

A man who the has found the most unfortunate ways to be relegated from the prem

[@jt663]

You mean like being in the bottom 3 after 38 games... 🙄

[@muhdpeep]

@@jt663bore off had azpi was flagged off cardiff wouldve stayed up and rudiger shouldve been sent off too that game was just pure absymal refereeing

[@alphomega2459]

@@muhdpeepbore off. You was in the position for a reason. If one mistake can send you down you wasn’t really good enough to begin with.

[@HZWY_Records]

Im a cardiff fan. This man is and always be a ledgend. I had a season ticket since, hell i dont remember, so sad when we watched that game

[@ProwerTheFox7]

“You should’ve been good enough” story of every official in the prem

[@michaellee7313]

Cardiff as a club should've been good enough for every other part of every other game to stay up. They weren't. That's why they got relegated, not because of one poor decision

[@liamdavies-pg3kz]

im a cardiff fan this hurt so bad

[@anthonymitchell8893]

no pain no gain you know the rules mr Davies no weak excuses either im not f---------g having it nor is any other city slicker get your firm together a d we will have a meet down Fulham Broadway you can call it on 🎀🎀🎈🎈🎈🐄🐄🐄😘😍😘😘😎

[@liamdavies-pg3kz]

@@anthonymitchell8893 mate shut up

[@lovelyjanuary]

@@anthonymitchell8893wtf, you’re not a bad version of a Clint Eastwood impression all the time in your real everyday life, I hope??????? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🥴😵‍💫

[@ThomasMadigan-m2k]

Neil Warnock is a hero for many a club

[@SuperKarinaG]

Not aberdeen

[@Youknowchippychips]

​@@SuperKarinaGlol

[@scottdolan201]

Respect to Warnock at how he doesn't blame anyone from Chelsea individually, as it's their job to just play, Azpi probably didn't even know he was offside. The refs failed their jobs in that moment

[@alphomega2459]

He just blamed a linesman for finishing in the bottom 3 after 38 games 😂😂😂😂 was he fucking then over the other 37 games too?

[@lovelyjanuary]

@@alphomega2459YOUR’E INTENTIONALLY MISSING THE POINT to obfuscate things with your argument. No one ever said that he as a coach or the team wouldn’t take responsibility for their own failings over the course of the season that might have led them to be in this place and facing the relegation as a consequence- but, that being said and now that they’re there and there’s nothing you can do about it (the past) at that point, in playing THIS game that did have individually particularly significant relevance to the consequences they faced, their playing here and their overall performance is not what caused them to have to face the final straw breaking in their fight to not be relegated, and in that way, they were hoping to kind of valiantly put forward a last ditch effort to rally the strength and sheer tenacity to hold on just this one last time right here for this (retrospectively godawful season, objectively speaking) WHICH THEY DID and this one (again objectively) *ABYSMAL* call in refereeing was literally the single deciding factor that tipped the balance negatively toward their relegation and left their own literal actual performance and reason for which that final decision SHOULD HAVE really been made (or not) totally invalidated and caused the relegation to be completely taken out of their own hands as far as their responsibility and effort they made toward preventing it absolutely irrelevant. You can’t simply separate this away from the entire rest of the season (interestingly like you’re saying) and act as if this one last game was completely immune then to the simple judgement that you’re using to reflect upon whether they had a good one or not and how that is relevant to their possible (at the time) relegation- you might have thought they earned it then and all the way up to this, but this still counts overall as a game that’s part of that entire season as a whole, and as such should have (and rightly in that way) been the holding on by their fingernails with their performance, sealer in the final decision of their fate at the end (after this game is over) of the season.

[@CHUKS300]

This day pissed off all football fans not just Cardiff. Big reason why VAR was introduced, crazy how one decision affected the lives of so many staff at the club that year because they went down.

[@hello-tv1hi]

Neil Warnock was never a manager of my club. But i absolutely love this guy.

[@MikeKing14_]

Funny how this is always brought up like it didn’t happen to the other clubs in the relegation fight. Warnock will no doubt he happy to overlook Sol Bamba’s offside goal v Brighton which essentially cancels this one out.

[@Scooot1972]

VAR is king. The interpretation of the images and time it takes is the problem. I see a stat that said on balance that there's been a net positive in goals due to VAR. Also, theres two celebrations for every goal. Players that have been sent off for no reason have been brought back, and vice versa. I love it. It's just the numpties in Stockleigh Park that ruin it. My team, Saints, has really missed it in the championship, but the standard of everything is worse down here.

[@wmurray689]

As an AR myself, if your eyes deviate for 0.3 of a second, you can be in big trouble when trying to judge off side.

[@MarkSiosal]

To be fair, in real time it looked like Azpilicueta made it back onside before the ball into him.

[@Youknowchippychips]

Yeah I think it's a lot more difficult than people think, not always, but some scenarios

[@abdvs325]

​@@Youknowchippychips Exactly it is more difficult, in fact it's impossible. Which is why we need technology to help referees.

[@mohammedhersi1984]

Best manager we had in Cardiff for years.

[@markmorgan6231]

As a Swansea supporter. The linesman made a great decision.

[@WehWeh343]

No way in hell that he told him that so calmly😂😂

[@MyNamelsName]

this is why as much as people hate VAR, because they say it “ruins celebrations” it needs to be in the game fuck re celebration being right is more important than

[@lemauntory2951]

man forgot the “fuckin hell”😂

[@AlfieYnwa]

2 points away from safety, so this changed both cardiffs and Brighton’s past few years massively, without this goal Brighton could be a championship team and Cardiff could be fighting for Europe

[@pandadoublexl]

Not a chance that Cardiff would be doing as well as Brighton have done

[@wobkgs]

If my aunt had bol+++++ she would have been my uncle.

[@Bigdogg87]

@@pandadoublexlhow do u know u pillock

[@pandadoublexl]

@@Bigdogg87 try using that tiny thing between your ears for once and you might figure it out, windowlicker.

[@nicograms]

@@Bigdogg87Because Cardiff don’t have a Tony Bloom. Simple as that.

[@roxannedurance2016]

😂😂😂man said "Azkabala"

[@jch2211]

I don't believe for a second Warnock said it that calmly

[@markjenkins3609]

I was also devastated. 😢

[@KeyrunBenji]

I remember Carragher trying to justify it after the game too...

[@xxwales15xx33]

That season for us was truly a nightmare. Absolutely robbed several times that season

[@PhilTough-hn8qj]

I doubt that he was that calm.

[@maxccfc1927]

Being there going from jubilation to that. Everyone saw we suffered horrible refereeing luck all season and a few months after VAR was here which would’ve solved it. Both relagation from the premier league were extremely unfortunate and could’ve been avoided without terrible luck

[@countingcards1208]

This is why ultimately VAR is good because otherwise we’re letting bad officials determine the fate of teams and their thousands of fans.

[@shaygranger4866]

😂😂good one

[@hamdanjantan3462]

Some people including me, would asked why waited until the very last game of the league and blamed the ref. If Cardiff won few more matches before the last game, the offside goal would be forgotten, right? It is easy to blame someone on one mistake on one last game rather than admitted that they themselves the one to be blamed of not winning enough games. Their supporters would totally hated that ref for that one mistake rather than their team who played poorly the whole season. Nice move , Warnock and the Cardiff team.

[@MegaSlipknot67]

Sounds about right, we're talking about a club that won a title due to incompetence on the touchline. Used to get so much go their way before VAR.

[@adamdickinson2894]

It'd be great if there was like a video ref that could confirm these things I bet everyone would love that

[@Louis-Souness]

Even the Chelsea fans couldn't pronounce azpilicueta so they just called him Dave 😂

[@paulchisholm3305]

Officials shouldnt be getting that wrong.....so obvious!

[@charlierenton9042]

Could argue that goal also got Chelsea top 4 and a champions league place, finishing 2 pts above Arsenal in 5th. They went on to win that Champions league!

[@SubhramReddy]

I remember how well Warnock managed the later half of the season and truly deserved to stay up, was gutted they were relegated by some sad referees decisions

[@sarahshuttleworth2951]

I’m not defending VAR they make so many bad decisions but this is the slight benefit of having it

[@stephengrimes9734]

Id love to see a proper game with no offside rule to compare

[@jamesgreene685]

The league Cup semi final game had no var because it would be unfair to Middlesbrough. 2nd legs coming up, you'll get your chance.

[@DrBased123]

Just watch the championship. Far better to watch than the premier league without var ruining it.

[@alphomega2459]

That would be fucking awful. You’d have people just standing around the box for 90mins

[@alphomega2459]

@@jamesgreene685he said no offsides not VAR

[@alphomega2459]

@@DrBased123again. What part of offisde have you confused with VAR 😂. Can you lot not read or something

[@adamcottrell6454]

Cardiff had their own share of luck that season. That stonewall penalty against Huddersfield that got bizarrely overturned springs to mind.

[@justsomeguy2743]

Referees and linesman get far too much protection their incompetence has had A say in the last 3 titles, and last 5 relegation fights the standard of refereeing is a joke

[@pinnacleangling]

This is the kind of thing VAR was designed for, just a shame that they are getting so much wrong with technology that has so much potential.

[@maxconroy3394]

The problems with any teams managed or coached they are very good at getting promoted and often have one season wonders in the Premier including Cardiff and Sheffield United that went straight back down to the championship

[@HousewerkRecords]

It’s not the players fault. It’s the ref and linesmen that are at fault.

[@rhys2040]

Brighton had 10 better goal difference we still would of gone down

[@rhys2040]

@jhaccfc I know that's part of it too but we weren't good enough at the end of the day

[@Doggomorph]

This season was really unlucky for cardiff because of what happened not this but the saddening thing that happened

[@stevebloomer7027]

I refereed alot more matches than you have ever done or will. My famous quote? Only shit teams rely on referees.

[@jackfelton9569]

Who have you reffing? The u14s? Its not like this cost us staying up in the prem.

[@michaellee7313]

I hate when managers get like this though. "We would have stayed up if the correct decision was made here". One, that was never guaranteed. Two, I'm sure Cardiff got dodgy decisions going for AND against them all season, that happens with every club. Three, maybe if your players performed the whole season, instead of just for a few games at the end when they're in a relegation battle, they would've stayed up that way instead. Human error happens in refereeing every sport. You have to learn to accept that.

[@karlronan]

Var still should go. It’s taking the excitement and drama away from football. Let the officials decide. Take the good with the bad

[@kaihiggins725]

I was screaming at the TV and I don’t even support Cardiff 😂

[@sambrooks6103]

VAR would’ve canceled that goal

[@seanybohh123]

😂😂😂😂 This was a class day, UPPA SWANS

[@neilrogers6231]

Fair play the linesman

[@macgregorcox7280]

When are footballers gonna learn to focus on the shit they did wrong and that they can control

[@ASchuttler1]

It’s a shame there weren’t 37 other matches in which to get results

[@batemen258]

VAR would of sorted it

[@nerdimmunity7672]

If your blaming a linesman for going down your looking for excuses

[@nyk2000m]

He worked for Vincent Tan!

[@VortexBladesX]

2 points puts em level. They'd have still gone down via goal difference

[@ibexdnb2879]

Don't worry VAR would have missed it too. 😂

[@667lmc]

forever my captain Cesar 💙💙

[@calumjunior7748]

VAR isn’t being implemented correctly but it’s still better than this happening all the time. Phases of play need looked at as do the lines on offside calls. If it’s a toenail there is no clear advantage and not why the rule was made in the first place. We want more goals in the game. For phases of play things like offsides when corners are awarded which happens fairly often. If it’s tight they should flag and have it checked once the ball is out of play. Officials still need to do their job.

[@TheWelwyn21]

I was super happy

[@edoardosecreto4775]

To me the concept with VAR has been overused. It should be up to the coach of the team to asl the refree to re-check the action. Coaches have only one call each of them for each game.

[@alphabetadams1024]

This is why we need VAR, even if it takes a long time to be implemented properly.

[@Jacobe23]

Refs and Lino's have been on the take since the games inception. Not all games but many have been fixed (essentially one wrong call at the right time is all it takes. Easily deniable too)

[@smoquency7521]

Azpilicueta: ¿QUE?

[@leighalbrigt4668]

the problem is trust of the officials...and now we don't trust var, its not transparent and no accountability

[@irvinelawrence2733]

What about the VAR era no-goal with the keeper and ball up against the sidenetting and this also caused the agrieved team to be relegated😮

[@frankmachin5438]

The problem is humans make mistakes. Simple as that. The best keepers maker the occasional clanger, the best strikers miss penalties and the occasional open goal, and the best managers pick the wrong team or employ the wrong tactics sometimes or buy dud footballers in the transfer market. Yet somehow we expect officials to be god like in their perfection. I’m always reminded of the George Best story about some ref, and George said to him: “That was a shocking decision” to which the ref replied “You’re not having a great day yourself”.

[@rekt-oe1eh]

No, it's a corrupt match fixed game.

[@SP-cp3qu]

very true!

[@frankmachin5438]

@@rekt-oe1eh yes conspiracy theories everywhere

[@rekt-oe1eh]

@@frankmachin5438 Theory? It's been proven many timesp

[@rekt-oe1eh]

@@Binh-eg3tl thanks yes soccer is a scam

[@xc3274]

If you take a look before VAR, there were plenty, and when I say plenty it's a lot of goals, scored in an offside position. Many people are against the technology cause it kinda slows down the game and you can't really celebrate fully, I can understand that. But the feeling of your team losing (and even winning too I must say) because of a goal that should have been disallowed, is one of the worst feelings you can have as a fan in my opinion.

[@the-blue-barron2791]

If Cardiff had won that game, they have finished on equal points with Brighton, who finished 17th but with a worse goal difference. They have still been relegated.

[@barrygreen5782]

Stubborn but a very good manager 😊😊😊

[@invisiblesupermonkey]

Neil “no mistakes made in my life ever” warnock. I bet the Swansea fans didn’t think it was a mistake. 😂

[@robertmdub]

I actually remember this

[@stevelinnen4971]

Big baby! Remember him being 10 points clear of West Ham saying if go down it’s his fault but cried about tevez scoring 7 goals to keep West Ham up for years 😂

[@dasklew]

Waste man u are you

[@kashukengaming6334]

Tevez was a dodgy deal though and West ham were found guilty of breaking rules, should have gone down

[@stevelinnen4971]

@@kashukengaming6334 Point is he changed his mind after taking his team down!

[@stevelinnen4971]

@@dasklew 😀👀

[@anjolatope-babalola2338]

Premier league fans nowadays will be shouting ban var

[@tms.midi.199x]

Chelsea and Manchester United been having helps for years now change my mind

[@crazydave6787]

So even with VAR we still see a lot of match fixing. The problem has never been honest mistakes

[@caimorgan4796]

Now they should be in league 1 😂

[@sidneypotter6284]

It wasn’t the linesman one mistake in one game that relegated you. It was the numerous mistakes you and your team made over the course of a 38 game season that relegated you. Take responsibility

[@tshabalala-the-goat]

Id rather have this than var because id rather have an official make a mistake and get it wrong than have an official CHOOSE to get it wrong

[@armyaj]

And that's why VAR is here. Lest we all not forget that

[@Jake_1410]

Don't work either

[@damian597]

Its not var thats the issue. Its that we have these same officials in charge of var.

[@benflanagan9750]

was at the game and the away ends limbs were top tier 😂gotta feel sorry for them tho

[@ant16rst]

I was very happy with warnock at Cardiff

[@Jake_1410]

Don't know why he was sacked

[@MasterofSpiders]

What about the other 37 games, Colin? Always someone else's fault yeah. Rafa Benitez...the linesman...Carlos Tevez... Bob the Builder maybe.

[@MrJagger112]

Blaming a linesman for missing a single call when they've had a full season to avoid that situation is just laughable. Show some responsibility and accountability instead of blaming others for your failures.

[@alphomega2459]

Should’ve probably got more points throughout the season instead of blaming the linesman for one goal being your downfall 😂.