Which one to Choose? Scolia or Omni?

[@NeilsDarts]

Dart Counter Subscription price has just gone up to £35.99 for a year, or £4.99 per month if you just want to play at home and do practice games, not online, you don’t even need a subscription - that is all free!

[@stealthsuit5989]

@@NeilsDarts great stuff. Thanks for the reply!!

[@sircoynie]

Was 19.99 for the year on Black Friday!

[@tecttactic]

its still £30, the 35.99 price is in euro

[@adamt516]

Great video Neil. Just to clarify on the Omni cost - you can use the omni locally at home without needing a subscription at all. To play online and for detailed stats to help improve performance, the subscription is £34.99 for the entire year, or £4.99 per month.

[@NeilsDarts]

@@adamt516 Omni you can use without subscription but for all your stats etc it’s 29.99 per year

[@jason11166]

I just got my Omni a few days ago, I was perviously using autodarts which was great but the Omni is a big step up and its only going to get better. Im in North America so the lobby was dead on autodarts and like you said you can get a game in 30 seconds on dart counter and i totally agree. even being here in NA I play with the euro users and when you all are sleeping the aussies start to come on and some americans. one thing target needs to implement is a live view of the board like in auotdarts your opponent can choose any of the 3 camera's to watch your board. I was throwing a few big number rounds on the omni and i had a player pause the game and ask me to put my camera facing my board. now I have stupid tripod setup to get a crystal clear view of my board so when i go from throwing 4 26s to back to back 100+ the person doesn't start questioning. but that being said if they do add that feature it would deem the virt almost useless.

[@ZippyPenguinTribute]

I've the Autodarts and it's absolutely brilliant, love it I don't think I could get the Omni as it hasn't the board live view (unless you get the Virt) no idea if the Scolia has live board view though. Autodarts for the money AND no subscription is unbeatable imo.

[@andrewwickstead3802]

This as great mate and sure loads of people will be grateful for this……..for me…….being in the garage like you……….i am leaning towards the omni……I waited for it and from what I see I looks fabulous for the price point

[@NeilsDarts]

@@andrewwickstead3802 we’ll see lol, I think this will go 50/50

[@LouisWalker-d8x]

Great review, really helpful and helped me make my mind up! Thank you

[@PeterLister180]

Great video mate, been thinking about getting one of these for a while and I think you summed it up perfectly.

[@tomalexander9140]

I received the Omni last week, It's such a good system. The only thing scolia has at the moment over it is Tournaments but that's just a software thing that I'm sure Target will implement going forward. I think this could be the end for scolia

[@gerrardtorresbabel]

I don't have any issues getting games on scolia. Alot of people play tournaments rather than single games because is has live board view and they is tournemnts every 15mins and they are normal full come game time. The scolia can be a pain sometimes when miss registering darts but over all it's great. It can be great for a day or 2 then it may play up a few times.

[@WeeIslay]

Excellent information Neil. I have neither, as you know I'm also playing darts in my garage and the internet used to poor out there, much better now though. Still both would be a bit of a waste for me due to being away for more than half the year. I do have a camera setup so I can play online but that's very rare now. You enjoy the Omni as it does look great

[@williemcneill5735]

Firstly great comparison/review chief. Finally got over my dartitus after a long period of struggling joined the local league and almost finished a new man cave. Delighted you preferred the OMNI as i have just invested in one and it arrived this morning and agree had a bit of trouble connecting to the WiFi but once I got it it was so easy to set up quick calibration and away it went another week to finish the inside of the man cave and then I will be using it for practice and hopefully a few games.

[@LaceyDJI]

Been watching the channel for a while and I find all your reviews very helpful. This review though I couldn't disagree more when it comes to the Scolia.which I have had for the past few months. Very few miss reads, no issues getting into games etc....

[@mantraray1963]

A benefit of the Scolia system is that it is linked up with the Go Darts Pro training games which I use. My experience of the Scolia is around 98% accuracy when recording scores which, I believe compares similarly to the Omni?. I don't tend to have any issues getting a game (usually in the late hours) so 🤷‍♂️...Another benefit is the ease of changing/turning the board with a Scolia as the only thing that needs removing is the surround. Interesting review 😎👍

[@NeilsDarts]

@@mantraray1963 again it’s just my experience with using both, I know like yourself and others it will be a difference of opinion but I’ve got to look at it as a whole, obviously this video wont agree to all lol. Cheers for your feed back mate it’s appreciated

[@mantraray1963]

@NeilsDarts absolutely, that's what made it an interesting review. Thought it'd be helpful to anyone wanting to make a choice to give a couple of the additional Scolia benefits 😎 For Darts Connect users then Omni would be the best choice I guess 🤷‍♂️ but as a Go Darts Pro user, having Scolia linked to the training games has been a massive plus 👍 Maybe you could do a scientific test of the accuracy of each system? 1000 darts on each and compare the results? Anyway, interesting review regardless 😎👍🎯

[@TommyBoii4]

Was onto go darts pro there is no plan to integrate with the omni any time soon so big plus for scoila there.

[@Gitara6060]

Great video as usual! What darts would you recommend for a rear gripper? I'm considering Target Bolide 01 or 04, Target Exo 02, Target Gabriel Clemens Gen 1, Target Chris Dobey gen 1, Loxley Sorcerer. If you have any other recommendations I'd be more than happy to see them. Thanks!

[@tomrendell7174]

Can you pair a webcam with the omni. So i can show my opponents im throwing.

[@NeilsDarts]

@@tomrendell7174 you can use a camera with it, you’ll see top right camera logo and just add your camera in that section

[@tomrendell7174]

​@NeilsDarts thanks Neil. Got one arriving today.

[@tomrendell7174]

Arrived and set up. Is the web version not available yet with omni? I've had to use the app on my phone.

[@tomalexander9140]

Its £34.95 a year not per month

[@tecttactic]

that's €34.99 in euro not £, its £30 a year

[@TheScottishCowboy]

Downside to Omni is the fact the Omni and Virt wont work on the website, app compatible only, but its getting address as we speak, also the Omni looks much better and is portable, allowing it to be put away safely from accidental damage

[@NeilsDarts]

@@TheScottishCowboy spot on mate

[@gerrardtorresbabel]

One big thing in scolias favor is it has live board view whereas with omni you still need a camera setup otherwise good luck getting a game.

[@ScottishLadDartsChannel]

At this point I'd be happy with either but the scolia just pips it for me

[@jusatin]

Neither. If you want a full system like that, go for Autodarts, that's A LOT cheaper than either of these. If you want to go even cheaper and easier, go for Dartsmind - you can use your phones camera for auto counting, or plug in an external cam to your iPad.

[@robertstam9916]

Which one had the biggest community?

[@NeilsDarts]

@@robertstam9916 I would say Scolia as the Omni is just recent

[@robertstam9916]

@ i made up my mind it will be omni when available in Holland

[@robertstam9916]

I ordered a Scolia main reason is that my sons also like to play darts and they often hit the surround so with omni they would hit it a lot.

[@Lion19722]

My omni just arrived and it’s brilliant. Highly recommend.

[@clerkin109]

Where did ya purchase

[@SamsonDoesDarts180]

Cheers for this, really helpful!

[@gavindavies164]

Omni is good. i like it a lot. there is so few games though offline to choose from. it does make a lot of mistakes and it isn't easy to change it when it does sometimes it is impossible if you have taken your darts out before you notice mistake. very convenient though to be fair just a shame the app isn't a lot better with a lot more content on there

[@stealthsuit5989]

Did you say it's 30 quid a month for darts counter? Thought that was the annual cost.

[@NeilsDarts]

@@stealthsuit5989 sorry £30 for the year

[@Ryan-3Putt]

Does the omni have to be screwed to the wall as I use a stand with surround and corona light in my living room? Cheers

[@NeilsDarts]

@@Ryan-3Putt the scolia 2 is screwed to the wall, the Omni is like your standard ring light and would work with a stand

[@Splatterz180]

No it’s strong magnets which attach to the board. Really easy to put up and take down if you need to. Highly recommend the Omni.

[@Ryan-3Putt]

@ lovely thank you, one other question is do you think you have to be of a certain standard to benefit from having one?

[@Splatterz180]

@@Ryan-3Putt absolutely not mate, if you play enough darts and enjoy playing then it’s well worth it. I’m not a massive fan of standing there working out the maths so having this just makes everything smoother and quicker. It’s a solid piece of kit and there’s loads more coming to it as well. You’ll need a Darts Counter subscription to play online matches, this works out at about £2.50 a month so less than a pint. I got the ultimate sub on Black Friday and it was only £15 for the year.

[@thesmilingman8738]

Can the Omni be used with a dartstand ?

[@NeilsDarts]

@@thesmilingman8738 yes, is just like a normal ring light, and the magnets on this is way strong too

[@slappentengel9213]

Finally found the perfect video for an honest review, Thank you. This video will cost me €550 then ;)

[@garyb6152]

How long before target abandons it when it doesnt sell in the millions like that soft tip board they released

[@wrefordsdarts]

perfect video. think i made my mind up :)

[@kaydenRL]

I'ld suggest autodarts Low cost and same features

[@kaydenRL]

You can even DIY the whole thing and have auto scoring for very low cost. For my first setup i paid like 30 bucks

[@jason11166]

I'm with on that one, I 3D printed the whole set up too. I'm from the north America so when i get home from work the lobby are pretty quiet. but its still amazing against the computer. I do have trouble playing in local with two players it sometimes doesnt wanna switch players.

[@kaydenRL]

@@jason11166 EU times are pretty nice. Lets hope it will get bigger in NA too. I regulary have full tournaments and also playing leagues online. Pretty cool

[@kaydenRL]

@ hope it will get more popular in the US soon it's very good in EU

[@craigbeardsley9685]

Great video. I set my OMNI up last week and it is amazing. Great value for money. Never had a issue getting a game. Interesting about the virt camera though, i might hikd off buying the virt camera untill they iron out the issues.

[@NeilsDarts]

@@craigbeardsley9685 it may just be mine as target not been getting any complaints about the virt lol

[@angelobianco73]

I'm going with the Omni!💯💯💯Tournament are coming, soon!💯💯💯

[@rizzeerizz8985]

I have auto darts and currently on 99% accuracy after 10k darts thrown

[@ZippyPenguinTribute]

Me too AMAZING kit, just doesn't have the advertising like the big boys do!

[@martinmalik4519]

I can barely hear you

[@craigcumming505]

Looks like the omni is going to take over

[@T-rock_chr0n1c]

These scoring systems can be cheated on so easily i will not play people that use them without a camera that shows u throwing the darts. Many games iv had suspicion i was being cheated

[@golfboy7438]

My Scolia has been utter pish for the last few months. Kicking me off line, regular miss counts,.delayed scoring very disappointed

[@maxbridger]

Same here, when I first got the Scolia it was so accurate, but now it gets the scores wrong very often and doesn't register when we take the darts out frequently too. 😮

[@golfboy7438]

@maxbridger it must be server overload as it's got more popular that's the only thing I can think of, my set up hasn't changed since I got it in March and was great up until a couple months ago

[@maxbridger]

@golfboy7438 that's a good point actually! When it first started happening, I thought maybe one of the cameras had gotten dirty or something, but cleaning it made no difference. I never thought about it being a server issue - makes sense though! 😅😄

[@sbrommy666]

I’ve had both also. Scolia has reached its limit pretty much in terms of gameplay offerings. And the fact it’s only other Scolia owners you can play against is a downside. Omni on the other hand while behind at the moment, it has limitless potential. Mainly due to the fact you can play anyone regardless if they have an Omni or not. Also, Target has the resources and connections to make Omni worldwide especially within pub/club leagues and official tournaments (in the future of course). Plus from my experience, Omni is more accurate. Good video btw

[@MartynMcfly100]

How do you know Scolia has reached it's gameplay offering limit? They're adding features all the time and rumors are that there is integration with other platforms in the development pipeline. To say it's reached its limit is wrong in my opinion

[@sbrommy666]

@@MartynMcfly100 Until you can play against players who don’t have a Scolia also, there is a limit. If they change one day then that will be great, but until then it will only ever be a “Scolia only” club.

[@MartynMcfly100]

@@sbrommy666yea but the omni is a darts counter only club? I don’t really understand your point?

[@sbrommy666]

@@MartynMcfly100 Anyone can play on darts counter, no matter what you use.

[@MartynMcfly100]

@@sbrommy666yea if you pay for a subscription

[@hughesyrealeastender9367]

Why don’t people just learn how to count? It will improve your game too. Especially when these things make mistakes anyway and you have to correct them.

[@nickfarnell5906]

Some people want the fun side, or people already know the math and want an easy life. Don't see luke littler adding up on stage, just concentrates on his game. As much as it's brilliant for your mind and will get young uns ahit hot at maths, auto scoring is still brilliant!

[@hughesyrealeastender9367]

@ I would still rather count that spend a fortune on a system that also makes mistakes.

[@Tambo81]

Nobody wants to play people without a cam on board. To many cheats in all lobbies online

[@NeilsDarts]

@@Tambo81 and that’s needs to be addressed, how easy it is to cheat even why bother cheating?