All that work is worth it simply for the improvements in audio. That is the most drastic of the improvements. Excellent job!
@OOOAAAIII5 жыл бұрын
Can you describe how audio is improved with this mod? I just received my NESRGB mod kit, and had actually decided not to use the supplied mini jack socket for audio, means I don't need to make a hole in the NES shell, and audio out is still available through the original rca output after the mod. But if you're saying it's a real improvement, I might change my mind? :-)
@AndehX6 жыл бұрын
There actually is enough room for the PPU socket on the NESRGB. You simply have to clip the pins under where the PPU sits so that the socket can sit flush on the NESRGB.
@MeWantHoneycomb3 жыл бұрын
ok that cut plastic makes me feel better about my nes.. just a small crack on the side, not terrible, but i'm a perfectionist xD
@emmettturner94523 жыл бұрын
The expansion audio pin was not removed, it was simply connected to the EXT port instead. If you look inside a copy of Castlevania III, expansion audio is connected to pin 18. Pin 18 goes to a different pin on the EXT port than the NES console’s internal audio, meaning something was supposed to bridge them through the EXT port of they ever utilized the feature. Pin 54 is only ever used because the top loader does not have Pin 18 (connector is missing that pin). Pin 54 is unused so we just make the same internal connection to that pin instead. Still, the most “standard” pin is the one that actual licensed cartridges used, despite the expansion audio being disabled in their code, and that would be Pin 18. Ideally, you want to connect both pins on the adapter or perhaps one for flash carts and the other for original carts. Even if you make the connection through the EXT port, the expansion audio was removed from the game ROM for Castlevania III so you would need to do a ROM swap with the Japanese version or a ROM hack version. Since the Japanese version will output audio on that extra pin, we know that is the right pin for sure even if no US games ever actually used it.
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
Right. The US Castlevania 3 cart doesn't have the VRC6 chip to generate the extra sounds though.
@emmettturner94523 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers Ah, you are correct. The MMC5 does have extra audio channels that were used in Japanese MMC5 titles. If you replaced the Castlevania III Dracula’s Curse ROM with one of those and populated the missing resistor then you would get expansion audio on pin 18.
@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial4 жыл бұрын
I wish that Enio boards were still available for that expansion slot...
@armond1203 жыл бұрын
The music is awesome, the whole time I am just wanting to play some Castlevania
@josejaramillo81813 жыл бұрын
got the 72 pin its stop the blinking...but now no picture....I guess i have to order that part as well....thank you for directing me to the right spots
@marktheshark2746 жыл бұрын
Holy moly. That mod must've been a herculean task to do right. Would you say that this is one of the most difficult mods you've done so far? If not, what is?
@JFTL815 жыл бұрын
Is your SCART carrying Audio? How do you wire that to the A/V output connector? Awesome job! I’m going to attempt the RGB mod soon, hopefully I don’t fry my NES...
@simplyhard3 жыл бұрын
You sure are a nice brother. Well done. :-)
@dougdabandit20035 жыл бұрын
i have the hi def nes, this is great and all but the hi def nes is just amazing
@cellardoor75004 жыл бұрын
Doug Guelich do you notice any lag compared to a stock NES?
@mr.b96133 ай бұрын
@@cellardoor7500any digital mod that converts an analogue system has lag. Complete garbage, stick to the nesrgb on a CRT
@pearly1612 Жыл бұрын
You are an absolute madman. You Frankenstein’d TF out of that beautiful piece of history. And you devoted so much time, too. So much time. And money. And effort. And for what? You devoted all of that and look at yourself. Look at yourself and you’ll realize. It will hit you like a ton of bricks: all of that time and money and effort are gone. Gone forever. Was it worth it? But hey, let’s try to keep positive. And honestly, I’m impressed by your unwavering dedication to this ill-conceived project you’ve undertaken-even if, tragically, you ultimately butcher that NES like a hog. Which you proceed to do. You put that horse to pasture like old Yeller on steroids. But hey, good on you. Shine on you crazy diamond.
@BasementBrothers Жыл бұрын
lol, modded consoles aren't for everyone. I presume you prefer to keep your NES stock? My brother I made this for still has his original NES stock. This was a spare. Just curious, the part you have a problem with wasn't the cut out piece from the cartridge slot, right? Because that's something my brothers did to this NES as kids. Not part of my modding in this video.
@boogiemanspud6 жыл бұрын
At 18:50 when talking about running a wire around the adapter board, you can do what I did and drill a hole through the pcb. Just don't drill where any traces are. It hurts nothing and makes the wire runs shorter and much neater.
@DannyCD5 жыл бұрын
It works just fine so whatever. It's not like he was contracted to do this mod for a customer anyway. Too many perfectionists nowadays thanks to Voultar...
@Nukle0n5 жыл бұрын
With wire that thin you can also just run it through one of those vias.
@SMAAAASHTV4 жыл бұрын
@@Nukle0n that's what I thought, as well.
@sheepdog_814 ай бұрын
This was/is helpful. Thank you! 👍💙
@Nukle0n5 жыл бұрын
Idk, maybe it works but all your solder joints look dry as hell, with the solder balling up on the pins, it should sit "snugly" to the pad and pins, in a parabolic sort of arch, if it's bulbous like that then it means you don't heat up both points of contact enough.
@MavHunter20XX2 ай бұрын
I find it frustrating how Nintendo USA held out on us, preventing such awesome music from reaching.
@jefersonrodrigues69833 жыл бұрын
Very good!!! Is the sound improved in other games too ???
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
No, the sound output for games was already great. It just outputs additionally through the multi AV out port I added now. The mod I did just adds expansion audio for the handful of games that use it.
@rusty11875 жыл бұрын
Uncle Fester would be proud!!
@Zheols6 жыл бұрын
(Darth Vader Voice) I Find your faith in hot glue disturbing..
@GadgetUK1646 жыл бұрын
Great video =D One thing that puts me off the RGB mod is the fact you have to solder the PPU onto the mod =/ It's a shame that perhaps an upside down socket could not be fitted to the underside of another area of the mod - to allow the original PPU to sit on the underside perhaps. I guess its not a big deal, maybe I will have a go at this when I can afford it. The mod from Tim does look sweet though!
@emmettturner94523 жыл бұрын
I use the Aoyue Int701A++ for my install and it absolutely SUCKS… in the bad way. Used it for a ton of Hi-Def NES installs too. The Hakko clone iron isn’t half bad so I use it with genuine Hakko T18 tips as my primary iron.
@lilbigkidsmedia86525 ай бұрын
If u put one hole u mine as well put more,keeping it stock doesnt mean putting one hole.ur first words are very contradicting.love the videos,stay safe wear gloves lol!
@BasementBrothers5 ай бұрын
Keeping it "as stock as possible" doesn't mean the same thing as "keeping it 100% stock". It isn't contradictory. Besides, what would you do instead? Don't drill a hole and just take the top off the system whenever you need to access the RGB out? Not mod the system at all? The idea is that we wanted to make useful mods, while still leaving the outside looking as much like a normal NES as possible. Adding one small port on the rear of the system is obviously the best possible option. I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.
@AVErsiv Жыл бұрын
you need to convert CRT TV for it to have RGB Input , on scart for example european standard.
@BasementBrothers Жыл бұрын
Yes, most consumer North American TV's need to be modded to accept RGB. Or you could get a professional CRT monitor... Or you can use a modern TV with an upscaler that takes an RGB input. That's the purpose of the NESRGB.
@sergiomeyer6 жыл бұрын
Summit beer! Minnesota represent
@jayn83925 жыл бұрын
That blue mat with the screw indents your working on is awesome. Where did you get it? Also, Castlevania sounds amazing!
@KiriGaiWolf3 жыл бұрын
I have to say as an ICT-technician, thats not the best soldering job that i have seen, you really don't want blubs of solder in any of the pins. It will create resistance and weaken the signal..
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Sorry for the bad soldering. Been soldering on and off since 2005. Never had any real training, and I'm not a careful person by nature.
@jamescross89183 жыл бұрын
who the fuck pours a beer like that, lmao
@chrisgoff34145 жыл бұрын
Nice video. So your multi out connection works as well as the original composite out on the NES? I have been trying to find a way to do this but have had no luck, most people tell me that once the RGB board is set up the RF and original composite out was deactivated. I
@IsaiahAmos0175 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a blinking light win I just checked and they’re sold out I hope they make more I have replaced my pin connector several times it would be a real shame if I missed out on this Mod for good
@alucard9715 жыл бұрын
Check today. Saw they were in stock for me.
@frownmastr4 жыл бұрын
If youre restoring/refurbing/improving the NES, are there any capacitors or anything that should be replaced?
@BasementBrothers4 жыл бұрын
Generally, the capacitors on the NES aren't so bad. I'm not a huge proponent of replacing all caps, like some recommend. I would just visually inspect all caps for bulging or signs of leaking. If there are no problem signs, I would leave them alone for now.
@ballandpaddle5 жыл бұрын
At 19:24, take a look at the chip on the top-right. I believe this is the character ROM of Akumajou Densetsu, so why does it have "SCC-I" printed on it?? SCC-I is another Konami sound chip used in some MSX games. What is it doing in this Famicom game cart? I can't find much on the Internet about this other than it's a version of the SCC-I sound chip. Anybody have any ideas about this?
@nickjustwill7215 жыл бұрын
any1 notice that cheeky adblock in the browser?
@MrNoobNub3 жыл бұрын
31 blocked ads. thats a big greedy.
@Ashene644 ай бұрын
Great video except I can't agree with the hot glue lol
@BasementBrothers4 ай бұрын
Neither can I. I need a better way to mount the jack without screws.
@InsatiableMonkey14 күн бұрын
@@BasementBrothers Google LaserBear. His snap fit multi-out is high quality and doesn't require any glue or screws.
@cybermx8896 Жыл бұрын
Can you pleas tell us what resitors values to use in the Expansion audio mod if we wanto to play with flashcarts please?
@dRiv3R00005 жыл бұрын
What cable do you use from the multi-out port to the display? Is it component? S-Video? Where do you get one?
@Cyanice5 жыл бұрын
Will this work on any cart adapter? If not, what adapter is are you using in the video?
@RappinPicard5 жыл бұрын
Its too bad you couldn’t source a bottom shell from a French NES, since that version used the multi-av output and thus had a shell hole for one.
@kingnanaki82273 жыл бұрын
Hot glue... 2 part epoxy my guy.
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@alienJIZ19906 жыл бұрын
Damn this is awesome! Is it still mono audio though? If so, the only thing that would make this perfect is a direct stereo mod.
@alienJIZ19906 жыл бұрын
After looking into it further, I really like the idea of stereo/mono mixing with a knob. That way you can choose all the way mono for games that sound better that way so all the pulses/triangles aren't randomly thrown to different ears.
@DannyCD6 жыл бұрын
The Hi-Def NES lets you do stereo/mono mixing digitally in its on-screen menu for each individual audio channel, it's pretty awesome. It was one of the selling points for me to get a Hi-Def NES.
@Warclubz5 жыл бұрын
Wanna keep my consoles stock and not have to drill..... You chopped that thing in half so you could use bigger carts.
@Warclubz5 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers I'm just farting around being a jerk. You can always get a replacement plastic. Thank you for the awesome content you make!
@jrb8755 жыл бұрын
Can you please calculate labor costs. Please list an hourly rate for a typical A/V repair shop, professional, or hobbyist. I'm looking at making a purchase from ebay sellers, but have no idea what the markup is above parts and labor. ebay prices range from 300-500 us dollars.
@Nozomi89AceGaymer3 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about it but, since you want to install the blinking light win, why did u cut the nes board? With the blinking light win you don't need to press down when the cartridge is not instert so it doesn't make sense at all.
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
The cut that I show at the beginning of the video is from when we were kids. It was done in the 90's. Long before the Blinking Light Win existed.
@Nozomi89AceGaymer3 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers Oh, I see, I didn't understood it! 😅 Sorry
@josejaramillo81813 жыл бұрын
Help...I try all the tips you have posted when having a blinking red light on my NES Nintendo ....Blowing , cleaning all pins, holding down the reset bottom....still NO game....can i order a new mother board or 72 pin slot....I could really use some help...
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
Here's someone on ebay selling the Blinking Light Win. It's a solder-free install. Just need a screwdriver: www.ebay.com/itm/Blinking-Light-Win-Replacement-72-Pin-Connector-Nintendo-NES-MOD-REPAIR/313343144868?hash=item48f4b4f3a4:g:6~4AAOSwZUNf16oC
@seamistseamist2 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to just get the expansion audio without doing an rgb mod? I just want to use composite since it's the way things would've been seen on an unmodded console, and i've seen that the AV famicom doesn't have nes zapper compatibility, and has less vibrant video.
@seamistseamist2 жыл бұрын
I'm specifically talking about when using an everdrive n8 pro nes version
@BasementBrothers2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a separate mod. You don't have to do RGB to do expansion audio.
@seamistseamist2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers Alright, is there anywhere I can get it installed to work with the N8?
@sunnohh5 жыл бұрын
Plus, CRT
@xboxgamerJ165 жыл бұрын
So I have a BLW and an Enio board for famicom sounds and I just got a real copy of castlevania 3 for the famicom. I use a famicom converter from Hyperkin and I thought everything would work. Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
@xboxgamerJ165 жыл бұрын
The sound isn't working properly and I dont know what to do.
@xboxgamerJ165 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers I did and that opened up the sound channels I was missing. But what would you recommend on using for the sound mod since I'm using a famicom cart?
@BryanX644 жыл бұрын
Music that currently plays at 9:30?
@Andrew-McCormick4 жыл бұрын
What gauge wire did you use for the cart converter?
@BasementBrothers4 жыл бұрын
22 gauge I believe. It's thin.
@Andrew-McCormick4 жыл бұрын
Basement Brothers thanks!
@retr0wl4 жыл бұрын
What's the music on 21:25 ?
@sergiovalencia30313 жыл бұрын
Whats the music that's playing at 4:50
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
It's the battle music from Mouryou Senki Madara. You can see the game in this video at 21:15.
@JazzMartian4 жыл бұрын
"I want to keep this system as stock as possible" *Mods the carved up system in every possible way
@BasementBrothers4 жыл бұрын
Just external. Only change on the outside is the addition of the AV port.
@DJSALTYNUTZ4 жыл бұрын
where do you get the audio expansion mod?
@BasementBrothers4 жыл бұрын
I followed the instructions here: www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1860.0
@eekturk42584 жыл бұрын
25 dollars to 60 to 72 pin adapter what? It is 5 dollars on aliexpress!
@AndrossUT5 жыл бұрын
Use desoldering alloy.
@hiks37685 жыл бұрын
25$ for a 0.10$ port?????
@JebberGamingJaws5 жыл бұрын
Anywhere I can buy one of these? This is the exact set up I would love to have. I'm assuming HD Retrovision cables would work?
@CedricsSpecialLP4 жыл бұрын
Just google NESRGB and you should be able to find the site from Tim Worthington, who created the mod.
@osgeld3 жыл бұрын
wait what? drilling holes is a sin but you (poorly) cut a giant hole in its face?
@BasementBrothers3 жыл бұрын
The defacing of the console was done when we were kids in the mid-90's. I would never condone such a modification today.
@blackcheesyghoul4 жыл бұрын
You're not even testing the RGB!?.... WTF...
@BasementBrothers4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. This NES was put through its paces. In the video I bring it to Sturat's house where first we test the RGB on the Framemeister, and then we hook it up to a CRT using S-video.
@blackcheesyghoul4 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrothers oh yeah sorry my bad aha i guess i thought you'd test it on a PVM.