Neptune in the 12th Twelfth House

[@evolvingbeyond2140]

Omg this is the best explanation of this placement I’ve ever heard. It also clarifies WH vs. Placidus for me. 🤯 wow. Thank you so much 🙏🏻❤

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

My pleasure. As a 12th house Neptune in Scorpio, I spoke from the heart ❤️

[@NeptuneConjunctAscendant]

This video made me emotional around 12:03. Neptune in 12th here conjunct my Aquarius ascendant. I remember being young and being mistreated by my classmate one time and it was my first brush with an adversary. My mom tried to console me but I was inconsolable. I vividly remember being so upset and hating this harsh world in the moment and how someone could be so mean and rough to me. Also sun in Cancer here

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Dmitri, I get you very much; I'm a Neptune in the 12th myself.

[@buse3842]

I feel you. ( Sun&mercury in cancer, Neptune in the 12th house. )

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I'm moon and Neptune in the 12th. I have been drowning since I was born.

[@dianeobanion4847]

Me too, Moon and Neptune in 12th house of Scorpio, opposite a Leo Sun conjunct Mercury in the 8th. I also have Mars in my Ascendent conjunct Neptune. I don't know if that adds insult to injury or gives me a schizophrenic defense system but one thing I've never been called is balanced. I'm hopeful mid life helps me sprout some land navigating legs so I can crawl out of the sea and enjoy some sun bathing, preferably not as a serpent...before I croak.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Funny you should mention that. I just did a line of croak five minutes ago.

[@thewitchskitchen]

that was amazing, thanks!

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

That means a lot from the Witch's Kitchen!

[@thewitchskitchen]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 :-)🙏🧞

[@ingang8817]

Thank you for the video. I want to tell my story (sorry for my English, it's not my native language). I have Naptune (+ Saturn + Uranus) in Capricorn 12th house. They make a square with my Moon in 3rd house. From my childhood I never had any spiritual experience. Noone in my family did anything spiritual at all. I was raised to believe I'm a "normal" person without any spiritual power. I loved story books, imagination and arts, but noone ever told that I had talent. My childhood friend and I used to go to a same art class, and only she was praised by teacher. Just like I believed I didn't have spiritual power and art talent, I believed I didn't have sympathetic ability. Because whenever I saw people suffering, I always confused "why do they have to suffer?" I couldn't understand that negative emotion. My classmate ignored me, but I didn't even realize that I was ignored until later when I grew up. After I grew up and step into society, I realized I was not "common" at all. Many people don't have lucid dreams as often as me. Many people don't see human as "natural good" as me. It's easy for most of human to hurt others. That's when I know I was not "naive" or was not "a good person", but I was self-deception through whole of my childhood (and it was worse at that time that no one, even my parent, ever correct my thought). My friend even blamed me because I expected "too much" about human. They said something like "you thought you was a saint but actually you were selfish and couldn't feel empathetic for human". Actually I think what they said is true. I was never taught about human in my childhood, only for when I grew up I had to face them with my childish vision. I know I’m not a victim, but I do actually feel like one. And I hate that feeling of helpness. However knowing this doesn't help. At least it doesn't help to solve my problem in few days. I was traumatized by human’s bad behavior, but I slowly become one of them. I used to help everyone in need without thinking or calculating, but now I always have the thought “why do I need to help them? They’re fine without me. They live even better than me. I can’t even know how to live in this society.” Also when I grew up I realized I could understand spiritual things very fast, just like they were my knowledge from my soul. But I still can't see "anything", so I always confuse if I did only hallucinate and I just wanted to find a way to escape from reality, a belief to release myself from the pain of existence? Sometimes I felt so much pain in my chest and my head that I didn’t even know if it’s a physical illness or it’s caused by mental illness. Recently I started to heal, but the process is super slow. And wound and trauma still cause obstacles in my daily life. I still search for place where I belong, or at least a conversation where noone judges my craziness.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Thank you for sharing your story. What country are you from?

[@ingang8817]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 I’m from Vietnam.

[@omnamahshivayah1111]

Neptune in 12th house conjunct Capricorn ASC here. Yes to all of this. I’ve always felt like an exposed nerve - noticing and feeling sensitive to everything. My first 🍄 trip was just me bawling. Mourning the difficult and painful experience that is life on earth. Dark night of the soul things

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

The light nights of the soul are as long as the dark nights.

[@g_lopre8918]

Neptune in 12th ❤️

[@luthienanarion6581]

Never have I ever encountered such a brilliant AND sincerely empathic understanding of the 12th house... Thank you for sharing your deep knowledge with us! This info is SO therapeutic for someone who has spend their whole life through the subconscious lense of the 12th.. Also.. did I understand correctly that what we sacrifice here is FOR the planets that find themselves here and not the planets alone? (I mean.. for example I have Mercury conjunct Neptune and Uranus here. Does this mean I would eventually have to sacrifice my sanity, or it means that I'd be willing to sacrifice a lot in order to have a peace of mind? Most astrologers go with the darker take on this, but your video made me wonder if it's not the 2nd option... THANK YOU!)

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Thanks you and to answer your question- Yes, we are willing to sacrifice the most for the things associated with the planets in the 12th. Let me give you an example- a lot of athletes have Mars in the 12th because they are willing to sacrifice their time and love life and other interests for the sake of this Martian activity. Whether or not you have to sacrifice your sanity for healing depends upon how close you are to collapsing to begin with. Come in for a reading. I will give you a good deal as a fellow Neptune in the 12th.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

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[@reggaespiritdance]

Very helpful, I also have Venus and Ketu sitting with Neptune in the 12th and what you shared was very interesting…

[@reggaespiritdance]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Glad it was helpful!

[@salt.1333]

I have Neptune in my 12th house in Capricorn conjunct Uranus, Lilith & north node in the 12th, conjunct my ASC. I am a Cancer Sun, Leo Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter. Venus Virgo. Chiron in Cancer. All in the seventh house. My Planets in Leo are square to my Pluto in Scorpio conjunct my MC. I have Saturn in Aquarius in the 1st house (miraculously not in opposition to any of my Leo planets). I am highly intuitive and sensitive. Have always had wildly vivid dreams. I am an astrologer and yoga teacher. I am spiritual and creative. I have struggled with addiction, anxiety and self-undoing in the past. I was the scapegoat of my nuclear family, who projected their feelings on to me. I nearly OD’d from drugs and psychedelics. I came through that fire with a lot of self-work. I have worked hard and continue to do the work. I use my connection for good, I have a great capacity to love and forgive. I feel am here to heal others and do so, sometimes with my energy. I am here to help people clear their karma by making their shadows conscious. Thank you for this video! 💗🙏🏼✨

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I have Neptune in the 12th (Scorpio) and most of what you say about Neptune was also my experience. Thank you for sharing.

[@salt.1333]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 I resonated with what you said too! Totally agree that the spiritual connection must be used or it will be abused. Creativity and healing is our purpose and our saviour. I am blessed that I have now resolved relations with my nuclear family mostly after a lot of work and had extended family for support. I hope you managed to find resolution with yours! That felt like a part of the karma of this placement.🕊

[@salt.1333]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 in Scorpio - that must be interesting! I feel Capricorn grounds this energy slightly although Cap has got their tail in the sea… but feet on the ground 🐐 🧜🏼‍♀️

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I went away from my family for seven full years. That included everyone genetically related. I disappeared in the Organ Mountains of New Mexico. This began when transiting Uranus hit one degree Aries. Then it hit my IC in Aries, then my Chiron in the 4th in Aries. As Uranus moved through my fourth, I made a life of my own. That meant depth psychology- two Jungian Analysts, two young guides in the sacred psychedelic journey, and two spiritual healers. That growth led me to divorce a person who represented all those family sicknesses from my youth. When Uranus hit 29 degrees of Aries, my dead grandmother came to visit me on the city bus. She told me to talk to my mother again and when I got home, my mother wrote me for the first time in seven years. I answered. It's been different ever since. I believe it was a healing. The patterns are broken, but of course, healing has to be maintained.

[@salt.1333]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 interesting, yes I guess if you have Chiron In the fourth house this signifies familial wounding. My Chiron is in the 7th along with all my other personal planets. I see the 7th house as representing my family as what happened is I have many couples around me, divorced parents and new partners, uncles and aunts with no children etc, who make up my family but my sense of home and true nuclear family was destroyed pretty early on (my early teens). The extended family influence has had its own hardship though despite the blessing. Many more opinions, judgments, criticisms and projections to wade through and develop a sense of self within! Astrology never fails to Intruige, I learn more with every chart and person I come in to contact with who tells me their experience of their chart.

[@emrenee4431]

I have Neptune at 1degree of Aquarius in the 12th house sextile Chiron in Sagittarius in the tenth. Travel has related to my sense of escape and emotional creativity

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Have you turned that into a career yet ? I know you are still young, but chiron in the tenth can make a career out of their sensitivities.

[@TradingQuotes]

Watching here. Thanks.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

Thank you too

[@saistrology]

Thank you for these videos. Do you ever make videos on current transits? Can you do a series on retrograde planets through the houses and nodes through the houses?

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I don't cover quick transits in this video series. My videos take too much production time to cover something that will be obsolete in a few weeks. Once in a while I cover something ephemeral on my "Audio Only" playlist. There, you will, so far, find postings on "Neptune and the Corona Virus" and my musings on the "2020 Election". I will also cover Neptune in Pisces and the Pluto Return soon. I have been thinking about the nodes through the houses for a long time. They will come at the end of the solar system, after Chiron, but before I start on Aspects. This channel is meant to be a video textbook (video compendium) and so I am unfolding the information according to a design. I like the idea of a retrograde series and will definitely plan for that in the future. Just to let you know, in case you haven't seen it, there is another playlist called "Odds and Ends" where I put the things that don't quite fit elsewhere, such as the "Age of Aquarius" and "The Asteroid Goddesses".

[@Wstarlights]

Pisces Sun 3rd, Sag Neptune 12th.. Cap rising/moon - I find I put a lot of work into dreams and a lot of dreams into work. It doesn't seem like a common thing to me, most people seem to put efforts into one or the other.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I always like to think about whether or not an individual experience can be generalized to the whole of western society. I can say that as an astrologer, I don't know if we can generalize or not. Can you elaborate a little? What do you mean by dream (what does that mean to you in your case)?

[@vindemiatrix4111]

Neptune in 12 house is karmic pattern as whatever I do outside force is grounding me every day. I feel not visible and not needed.I existing only for my lovely sons 6 and 8 both in opposition to my Gemini Sun so Saggitarious boys they choose me and it's pleasure to cope with that. So I am mummy and daddy I am doing every day housewife stuff with nurturing in principle .I recognized pattern as I always finding astrology in every life but this time have to use knowledge for my sons to help them understand world as deep as possible my father was absent as alcohol was first need but I wanted only relationship but felt like I am not wanted. So in this life I started study astrology since 2014 but it was moment of deja vu but with different life scenario and different people . God is your motivation. So every one have different unique version of God . Earth likes grounding to the core of your motivation sometimes it hard process need more than one life. Sorry every religion is nursery with level spiritual understanding. I am bankruptcy with excellent astrology maybe next life will more easy now I am lonely outside from society . This society is young. Thanks for teaching.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

You're welcome. Thanks for learning and thank you for sharing.

[@chenaeM7]

I have a question.. what would it mean to have both jupiter (the expander) and saturn (the restricter) in the same sign/conjunct? I have a hard time putting the two together.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

What sign is it in? What house(s)?

[@pineconebliss5769]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 i am following up on this... as i am curious to know your thoughts on the question above, "what would it mean to have jupiter (the expander) and saturn (the restricter) in the same sign/conjunct? i have a hard time putting the two together." what are your thoughts on jupiter conjunct venus at 0 degrees Libra in the 10th house and then conjunct Saturn at 4 degrees Libra in the 10th house.

[@Wstarlights]

Saturn and Jupiter conjunct once every 20 years - a great conjunction - I was born in 1980 with one in Virgo - it in base form can just mean you grow and receive, and structure, and organize in the sane energy/sign. If they were separate signs, you would notice the energy between that being different. I definitely do all those things in Virgo 9th energy. So you would do all those things in the same ssigns/house energies. For example Libra 4th.

[@pineconebliss5769]

@@Wstarlights Hey there, thanks for your response! i was also born in 1980, but apparently shortly after you since Jupiter is at 0 degrees Libra and Saturn is at 4 degrees Libra. i follow most of what you are saying. You make a great and profound point about growing and receiving and structuring and organizing in the corresponding sign...but i do not immediately comprehend the Virgo 9th energy and Libra 4th statement that you made. Can you elaborate? Thanks kindly..appreciate your insights!

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

You might also find gas (Jupiter) and brake (Saturn) before you get where you are going. Gas, Break. Gas, Break, By that, I mean Saturn snuffs out Jupiter's enthusiasm (Saturn is the flame snuffer and child eater of the zodiac). But the beauty of this conjunction is that Saturn causes wild, manic Jupiter to be more careful and constructive, In Libra, the main issue both are focused on is BALANCE. That usually starts to become manageable in mid life.

[@moonpluto]

Cool graphics material to express the points in this video. Agree, Neptune is elusive but in mundane terms and transits, has more to do with the collective consciousness, getting caught up in groupthink, understanding history and the ways its manifesting, more than personal histories. Its a generational planet, not a personal one. There is nebulousness about this planet that doesn't do well interpretively quickly. There is mistaken overlap between pisces, Neptune and the 12th house which don't have the relationship that many astrologers assume by default and in the interest of simplifying. Many significations of Jupiter were lifted and applied to Neptune but actually belong with Jupiter. And show themselves to belong with Jupiter in Jupiter transits. Not Neptune transits.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I was saying that very thing about Jupiter yesterday! And Venus in relation to Neptune.But I disagree about something. Neptune is generational, yes. However the houses were created to make everything in the sky into a personal item, at least to a degree.including outer planets

[@moonpluto]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 agree re houses. Jupiter transits have a massive smoke and mirrors quality far more than Neptune. Esp the hard aspects.

[@moonpluto]

@@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242 Agree re the houses. They make things more personal - to a degree. In my observation though, the expression of the outer planets is pretty subtle unless there are day sect planets (Saturn, Jupiter or the Sun) in aspect. Would be great to discuss if you are up for it. My day job is as a therapist and I am basing my contention on work with a lot of clients.

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I have always thought if I were a therapist I would spend half the session trying to weasel out birth times!

[@cosmicartsastrologicalserv242]

I don’t agree about the subtlety of outer planets as I have personally been ripped in two from them. But you have an interesting point about Jupiter as it was the ruler of Pisces for an Age. Jupiter was Neptune before Neptune was discovered. It moves too quickly for me to quite do the job of self-discovery I have found with Neptune.