2024 DM Screen Review! | Nerd Immersion

[@sidsantha]

Hey Ted, I think they use the new pull tabs to eliminate plastic packaging. They have moved this direction across there lines both in D&D and MTG to remove as much plastic trash as possible from their packaging. So while the pull tabs are sometimes annoying they do make it so you don't need plastic shrink wrap around the product.

[@NerdImmersion]

@sidsantha that makes sense actually,

[@lwriker1304]

I prefer the protective plastic covering. E.G.: I bought the Lego D&D set. It was scuffed and scratched, resell value is trashed before opening it.

[@Lord_zeel]

That makes sense, they don't have to shrink-wrap it or use tape if the cardboard box is like this. Though I feel like a normal folded box and a single circular sticker like we see on a lot of other products would be just as good.

[@Lord_zeel]

@@lwriker1304 To be fair, they aren't making the product for people to NOT use it. I dislike the tear tabs on the DND stuff because you might actually want to put things back in the box for storage, and this style of box isn't great for that. But on LEGO? I don't know anyone that takes their LEGO apart and puts it back in the box.

[@PillowOfEvil]

Actually pretty useful. Idk how I feel about the artwork, but the info inside is actually good.

[@drzander3378]

Art-side bad. Info-side good. I don’t have a problem with the concept of a lineup of the races, but the execution doesn’t work. The cartoonish style and garish colouring is distracting. I’ll be waiting for another version with the same info but different art. In the meantime, I’ll create my own info sheets and stick them to the inside of a 2014 rules or previous edition screen. I’ve done that before and it works surprisingly well.

[@maize3239]

I actually like the art style, but I don't like the coloring. Too bright and distracting.

[@nebbynoo1127]

That druids outfit it crazy. While I like the art style I understand why people don't like it as a whole. It's also so busy and loud it could be distracting compared to more subtle dm screens.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

I'm still going to maintain it is a wizard. I see nothing druid about the druid except maybe the antlers... 100% looks more like a wizard than a druid.

[@MorganFleurDeLys]

I run a Youth League and this would be great for them. A lot of our younger customers would also enjoy this. Seems like a good product.

[@lucabancone]

I like that they have tried to do something different with the art it is for a 50 years celebration after all. Maybe doesn't match the taste of everyone but it is a different approach and DM screens come out costantly.

[@solod2087]

I must be the only one that stacks DM screens... if the art on the outside doesn't match the vibe i want, I layer the one on the outside that has what Im looking for and the one one facing me has the info i need.

[@WilliamSlayer]

I JUST did that last session! lol

[@supervado7962]

Genius

[@badgerburns521]

Thanks Ted having seen the art and learned of the contents I will probably wait until this is in a sale

[@TonyCrenshawsLatte]

The artwork is fine, and I appreciate the variety it brings. It looks like they did a very good job with the interior info, so I hope they'll release more screens with many different kinds of exterior art and same interior info, so that ppl can buy the one they like.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

Yeah, hopefully they catch on that the DM screen isn't selling because if the artwork and has nothing to do with the inside, because the inside looks helpful, but I definitely wouldn't use the DM Screen.

[@thex-philethackery4330]

I'll wait until another screen comes out with better art.

[@demetrinight5924]

I like the inside information update. The placement and layout was definitely thought out and arranged according. The artwork on the outside is nice but I prefer the scenic landscapes of other DM screens to different character options.

[@PillowOfEvil]

Dude is allergic to sleep.

[@JesseMcCullough]

Outside turns me off. I would like a more dynamic scene, but they could just make it blank for all I care as well. Whatever their goal was with the art, it's not winning points from me one way or the other. What matters is what's on the inside and it sounds like it's actually got some useful things in it.

[@mitchodell4993]

Was playing this week and DM had the new screen and it hit me what this art looks like. A baby’s nursery wall mural. This looks like something you would see painted on the wall of a baby’s nursery. I can’t unsee that now.

[@CyanMentality]

Tempted to let my players decide the DM screen they like the most and just have the good info tucked in on the inside. Double the DM screen; double the power!

[@CaptainXJ]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@zxql_]

I would love a mashup screen that keeps the inner side from this new one, and the art from the wilderness kit DM screen. 😭

[@WilliamSlayer]

Might I suggest you "layer" the screens so the Wilderness one is towards your players?

[@noblesseoblige319]

Love the art. I like seeing people/parties over monsters and cool nonsense, and this one has enough detail to be seen clearly across the table without needing to squint

[@AlwaysAStory]

Overall, I like the new DM screen, but the outside art is a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Love the dragons and some of the characters, but that druid elf is practically nude. I used to run games in public each week, and I would feel uncomfortable having a nearly nude character on my DM screen like that. I'll wait for an updated screen with different art on the outside.

[@CaptainXJ]

It's a shame that religion has ruined culture so much that a naked body is considered "bad".

[@AlwaysAStory]

@@CaptainXJ My opinion has nothing to do with religion. It's a matter of what I would be comfortable with at a public table near children at a comic shop or game store. If that doesn't bother you, that's fine to have that opinion. I'm just saying it would be uncomfortable for me since I want my tables to avoid that kind of content.

[@CaptainXJ]

@AlwaysAStory like I said, an opinion formed through culture influenced by religion. I was waiting for the "think about the children" reply.

[@Lord_zeel]

Not really seeing the issue. I wouldn't have even noticed that dude wasn't wearing pants if not for this comment, and so what? Everything is covered, there's nothing provocative about the pose. I've seen a lot of art of shirtless barbarians that are wearing a heck of a lot less.

[@mikeg8564]

The art is fine, but not for me. Cartoony, my favorite is the wildness screen, it inspires places i want to go.

[@Serinde_73]

Feel the same way

[@TonyCrenshawsLatte]

Wilderness screen definitely has the best art.

[@gojirajenkins8528]

Keep up the GREAT work Ted !

[@backcountry164]

Distracting would be my first impression.

[@stuckongum]

that art is... something. Looks like they are shooting for the six year old market.

[@kenscott1082]

I would have really wanted to see the weapon mastery items on there. Guess I need to make my own.

[@gregboyd529]

Yeah that art kinda sums up all my issues with most of the current art. It's too cartoony and safe. Not enough of the dark and grittier designs or even just cool imagery. Trying to appeal to every possible person and age bracket I think they loose what was interesting. Even when I was a kid what drew me too D&D books was the cool art.

[@MasterTilt]

That art was a bad choice. Put a cool battle scene with monsters. Hope they make another one soon with better art.

[@wonderingmage]

The interior layout and choice of information is awesome, but the outside art seems to be a step back, especially compared to the reincarnated screen, and more recent spelljammer, and planescape screens.

[@CyFr]

I kinda really like it, looks fun to have around especially for new players.😊 A very Vox Machina vibe.

[@trollishmc2920]

Thanks for continuing to put out non-clickbait content! Not sure if I'll be getting the new screen, but I've enjoyed the new books. I don't care for the art style either (for the screen). I wish there was an alternate.

[@lucasfelipe486]

i love this artstyle! so much better then another semi-realistic generic fantasy scene

[@adamstephens8852]

I like the information on the inside not sure on the art style for the cover. I will have to learn to accept it as I have preordered it.

[@Lord_zeel]

Will there be an alternative art version of the screen?

[@NerdImmersion]

@@Lord_zeel not that we know of currently

[@johnberry5296]

The art is fugly. It needs to have the new weapon properties on it.

[@chrishall5440]

I dislike the art. I don’t like the color palette, the static composition of a parade of character types, or the cartoony style. It doesn’t make me think adventure. The inside looks like an improvement though.

[@trexdrew]

On the art it’s very tapestry esque which I like and I think it’s the main class art for each revised class in the PHB. For example I think the dwarf is the one you see in the fighter class section. There’s a Dragonborn that’s college of valor bard and the one in the screen is clearly holding a lute to be a stereotypical bard instrument. To strengthen my case for this if you count them up there’s exactly 12 different PCs across the screen too. I’ll be honest I’m shocked this doesn’t come automatically with the DMG if you bought the bundle for example. I think it would’ve been really great if when they sent bundle purchasers a slip case for all three books when the MM releases fully too. Obviously that’s too much wishful thinking but it really would’ve been great marketing since everything else has been a boxed set with a case and DM’s screen. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@nebbynoo1127]

I thought the dwarf was a ranger. But I also thought the gnome and halfling were the other way around.

[@trexdrew]

@ it’s kinda hard to tell since fighters could use bows as well. I know for sure though that it’s definitely meant to represent each class it’s just up for debate on who’s representing what. To go by what’s in the art from the book seems easiest but who knows.

[@nickgoodnough6262]

I'm with you on the front art style. If they had made it some kind of sculpted, embossed stone carving, as the wall of some crypt or tomb that art style might have worked better than this junior high level failure. It reminds me of the 3.0 monster manual 2. Did they run some contest for a fan art screen that was really poorly advertised?

[@SHADOWSTRIKE1]

Art is junk, but the inside seems great. Cant wait for a different art version.

[@Kjarrett84]

I think it will be useful. I do like the acr work

[@TheMerrox]

Outside: Not the worst or bad, just no dnd feels for me. Too "cartoony". Its like a cover for a 3rd party fanzine magazine or comic book. I would prefer it more clean, like with only the dragon background or a the "old" battle scenes and art form. This does not inspire my fantasy as a player or GM in any way, its a deal breaker for me, I will wait for another cover. The inside: They still miss the point with the usage of a GM-screen, though it is better then many previous screens. Finally (!) they got rid of the inside art (well most of it) and made good use of the space, but could still be better. I would buy it and use it if not for the outside art. Conditions = Good. Improvised dmg = why? Dont see much use with this to be on the screen. Also "24d10 crushed by the jaws of a moon sized monster, why is that even a thing and just not "Dead, your dead, a moon just ate you!" why even roll for something like that?. Actions in combat = Good. (no Grapple?) Long/High jump = hmm naw, I don't think we ever used that in +20 years of playing, or I dont remember it but that is the same result. Good rule to have in the book, not on GM-screen. Concentration = Good, easy to forget in the heat of battle. Skills = Good, but not needed on screen if it can make room for better info. Death saves = Don't think its needed on the screen, not difficult rules, and you tend to remember them pretty good after having to use them or lost a char. ;-) Object AC/HP = another thing I don't remembering been used very often, if at all. Don't think its needed on the screen. Costs: Good! But ALWAYS to few examples! And often the thing you use almost as much as combat rules and conditions. Costs should ha a dedicated page for itself. (Common services, lodging, food, gear, potions, weapons, hirelings, etc. There is not room for all things ofc, but for the love of all the gold coins, more then 8 things!! Typical DCs = Good, kind of, at least for beginner GMs. You tend to learn those quite quickly. Light sources & Obscuring = Good, I think I would use it more often and correct if I had it on the screen. Travel pace = Good, but no priority on the screen, would rather have more costs tables instead. Travelling stuff I can look up in the book if needed, doesn't use it that often.The foraging part is more useful. Cover = Good, but why is that on that page and not with Obscuring etc? Audible distance = does anyone actually use this other then just think logically? Seems like an unnecessary rule all together, but good to have in the book for ppl that wants to use it. Visability = the same, never use hard rules for it. Dont need that for the screen. (but good to have in the book IF I need it sometime. Weather = Seldom roll on any specific table for it, just make it up on the go. "roll 1d10 scale, 1 sun and warm, 10 hail storm!" or something like that. Dont need to take space for it on the screen, but if there is space for it, why not. =)

[@NerdImmersion]

Grapple is part of Unarmed Strike now, so it's tied to the attack action. That's about the best I can do to answer some of your well placed arguments

[@TheMerrox]

@@NerdImmersion Ah okey, that sounds good. Much better then the old "a whole page of rules text" just for grapple back in the day. =)

[@maize3239]

I'd love to see a review of the book "Dungeons & Dragons Worlds & Realms." It looks like more of a lore/art book, but I haven't really seen any info about it yet =)

[@supervado7962]

I like the inside being crammed and with helpful info so I might buy one in the future but yeah that art just isn't for me. I'm glad they finally listened to people saying filling up the limited space with art made dm screens less useful

[@XxSlothicusxX]

I get that art is subjective, and I’m sure some people will like this, but it’s not really for me. The info is really helpful though it seems. Thanks for the video, really helpful 😊

[@colmbright9822]

I’d like the art work for something besides the DM screen

[@backonlazer791]

Is it just me or do the tassels on the orc's cloak make it look like he's holding up a popsicle? 😅

[@marka351]

Not a fan of the outer art either, it looks too cartoonish. At least the info inside seems to be an improvement.

[@3l_Raro]

No one: The druid on the screen: 💅🫦💯

[@lwriker1304]

😫I hate the rip tabs! With a bit of work and time I carefully lift it all up with a dulled Xacto Knife flatblade. Then clean it up with GooGone.😮😅

[@parttimed.m.1111]

I don't like the new screen look. It just seems to be void of anything that would ignite the words ADVENTURE!. Just isn't for me

[@BrindleBoxerMax]

The art is pretty, but I don't want it for my DM screen. I prefer the red dragon. The inside does seem to be a vast improvement.

[@Umbrellacorporationmt]

Oh my god. The art on this thing is ultra homoerotic.

[@michaelmuirhead910]

Not a fan of the artwork on the players side. Just looks like crap. Having updated rules is nice, but I’ll keep my old screen thank you.

[@Lord_zeel]

Not really impressed with the art. Not a fan of the style they went with, and going with characters seems really weird. Like, those aren't the characters in your game, or even NPCs, they're just some random adventurers. This is what the players are going to be staring out the whole time you are playing, it just seems weird.

[@jaysw9585]

Like the niche/deep rules. Lot of stuff that gets looked up and not just rewriting of PHB game mechanics. I like it. Art work is questionable, but i dont have to look at it.

[@-hunt-6225]

That DM screen art looks atrocious lol 🗑️

[@Adddndme]

Don’t like the artwork

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

I prefer monsters and landscapes. But if you're going to showcase the PC species this is well made.

[@Dragowolf_Rising]

You night owl you. Get some sleep! (I say at 1:18 a.m.)

[@andyenglish4303]

Man that DM Screen is loud. I like the style but the colors are so tilted to the RED end of the spectrum

[@mordyth]

I'm not a fan of the outside. It's too busy. I'd have to cover the art work

[@JackOfHearts42]

I actualy ONLY care about the art, because I never use the info on the inside. I just forget about it most times, or i'm standing and can't read it well.

[@atlas-gaming]

I don’t dislike the idea of the adventurers on the front - I do think the execution sucked. No offense but what is that ripped dark skin person in pink robes? It just looks so out of place. These borderline promiscuous robes that don’t cover anything? What is this a cbbe skyrim clothing mod? (Hopefully that doesn’t come off as hateful, it really isn’t meant to be) The backdrop color is way too bright, it creates a “busy” sort of effect that I think almost looks distracting. A darker palette would’ve been much better. Scenery is really my preference, but an adventuring party across the front isn’t bad. I just think a lot about it needs to be less loud. The DM screen is a cover for your notes and rolls. It should be a thing that melts into the background while being aesthetically pleasing.

[@minimoose7890]

I think they wanted to make sure there was a trans character, which is why the elf also has scars on the chest... so strange for a fantasy magic world... it's bad art

[@bradleyhurley6755]

It is supposed to be a transgender druid.

[@yitzledee]

​@@minimoose7890 that's utterly disgusting of them, some ppl play with kids!

[@paladinpariah325]

My eyes won't stop burning after seeing that dumpster fire of a design. Money I'll be saving. Thanks for more incompetence Wizards.

[@gojirajenkins8528]

I do not like the art work It's very juvenile like one of my 5 year old sons D&D little golden books

[@Crash3990]

Art is a miss for me. I have a Dragon Shield Gamemaster Kit already. Would be nice if we just get pdfs of the info for the same price.

[@zapendek]

The art style is more-less fine for me (still prefer classics from 2014, dungeon dm screen is my favorite) but I'd rather have there some scene or other abstract art, not just people standing there. I don't like the composition here.

[@Matthew-pd4zx]

Art is lame!

[@nealmatoga3511]

Who cares about rolling for weather. DM can decide that. Where is the Exhaustion mechanic??? That’s more important to gameplay than a weather table

[@ginjaninja6585]

The art misses hard.

[@johnnybrravo5791]

that is one ugly DM screen sadly i am really in love with everything from 2024 though

[@TheGridMedia]

Not a fan of the art style

[@marccaron6008]

Very useful. Not a fan of the art either. Geared more towards 10-year-old and family-friendly. I'll place a screen with art I like in front of it.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

Interestingly I read a comment the other day of someone saying they wouldn't use the Dm screen around children.

[@AAce_e]

The artwork is awful

[@Macca-p2m]

That art is shit.

[@xzanman]

12 minute video with 6 midroll Ads. when will creator's stop supporting youtubes aggressive AD policy and put the YOU back into youtube.

[@Seraphina-Rose]

I don't like the art style.

[@Gaming4ever-pd7jv]

That screen art looks blah. My screen is not to hide rolls; I don't care if the players see my rolls. I use a screen to hold my cheat sheaths and for intuitive and HP tracking.

[@A.I.Friends]

The art looks terrible. I'll stick with the 1st edition screens. But they are getting quite expensive these days. I think if you want both screens today they are selling for $100 on ebay.

[@johnharrison2086]

This is the worst art of any screen I have ever seen.

[@deadphish9128]

The art 🤮🤮 so much pink and purple 🤢🤢

[@randyrandy2460]

The art feels condescending, like the plush beholder stuff on the spreadsheets. Im not one to groan about inclusivity, but this feels like... Well, that.

[@CaptainXJ]

I hate that they use "species" now, it's so weird.

[@jaysw9585]

It's better than lineage and more scientifically accurate than race. Its a middle ground. Personally, i think they should have done what TSR did and used Demihuman.

[@NeutroniummAlchemist]

You just aren't used to it. But "race" was always silly to me even if I'm familiar with it.

[@ginjaninja6585]

@@jaysw9585 How is it more scientific than race, could you elaborate?

[@jaysw9585]

@ginjaninja6585 race is a group of people that share a common lineage, ancestory, culture or common background. DnD creatures are completely different animals that do not share a common origin, background or even culture. Only a handful of them are even capable of interbreeding. There would be no overlapping DNA between elves, humans, dwarves, gnomes, halflings and orcs as each species was created individually by their god and do not share a common ancestor. This is why its okay to have evil species, but not evil races. A species can be created to serve an evil gods purpose. A race is a deviation of a common ancestor and its creator. Any racial changes to its alignment would be an exception, not a rule. For instance, Homo Sapiens and Homo Erectus are different species, not races.

[@yitzledee]

I don't like the almost half naked character in the front, I feel like it's needlessly a little sexualized. Not everyone wants sexual elements at all at the table and especially around kids, for me it's a hard no.

[@Polymath76]

“Representation” is what the art is about, much like the complete trash novel they put out, The Fallbacks.

[@FabioBittar]

That's very hrm cartoonish. I mean, the artwork is fine, but not very cool, and definately not for me. I doubt this DM screen will be in print for long; and it won't take much effort to make something better.

[@thatcanadianguy7699]

The outside artwork is beautiful, but also too static and not at all evocative to me. The art should represent the DM and all of their roles (World, NPCs, Monsters), not the players.

[@shamurai7]

thats not a DM screen... its a DEI billboard

[@yitzledee]

Facts

[@goaftertheway]

“Unity”

[@Decado1628]

More crap WOTC 5e/6e art. It inspires me to keep playing different games and not support WOTC.

[@laeg]

Some of the most uninspiring artwork for any of the DM screens that WotC has done in recent memory..

[@Blazedandproud420]

Art looks very lame and half assed compared to other artwork in this updated rule set

[@goaftertheway]

The art is cartoonish and feminine, which makes sense because two women were the project lead and their theme was “Unity.” 😂 I dislike the art enough that I finally made the jump and ordered a custom dm screen I can use my own inserts.

[@wallyallen7169]

Way to say the quiet part out loud 😐

[@goaftertheway]

@ I watched the interview, one of the two project leads says the group she DMs rarely has combat and she needs the references because she often forgets the rules. Have fun your way. No issues. Just the art for a game that has a lot of combat, “unity” as a theme feels like a miss. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@wallyallen7169]

@goaftertheway i understand, honestly I wish I could get a custom screen myself lol. But your initial comment without context does sound a bit.. yk? It's like if I said, "oh the new DM Screen is so gory and unnecessarily masculine. Which makes sense since It was designed by two white men and their theme was "winning at all costs" or smth. It would make me sound extremely biased toward a certain theme or group of people. If that was not your intention I just want you to understand how your initial comment looks

[@goaftertheway]

@ it’s a game community where folks are more sensitive to language. I get it. I think some things are gendered, unity and soft art is more feminine in nature (for folks that still believe in that kind of thing). You could say a battle focused scene would be masculine and I say obviously. Not sure what being white has to do with that. End of the day someone who DMs and rarely has battles has thought “unity” and this art were a good choice for the first 2024 rules DM Screen. I disagree but hope folks have their fun with this game that allows for that.

[@bamboozledgreatcrowd8982]

Disappointed the wheelchair did not make it on there.

[@phillconklin382]

Art looks bad in my opinion.

[@chadculotta8278]

More garbage woke art. Blech

[@Careoran]

I have over ten DM screens and this is by far the ugliest DnD screen ever 👎🏻 it goes along with all the shitty Art, (AI altered no matter what they tell you) throughout DnD 2024 Get the beautiful old screens while you can 😊